User talk:Nordpay

Your account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because it appears to be mainly intended or used for publicity and/or promotional purposes. Please read the following carefully.

Why can't I edit Wikipedia?

Your account's edits and/or username indicate that it is being used on behalf of a company, group, celebrity or other well-known individual, or organization for purposes of promotion and/or publicity. The edits may have violated one or more of our rules on spamming, which include: adding inappropriate external links, posting advertisements, and using Wikipedia for promotion. Wikipedia has many articles on companies, groups, and organizations, but such groups are generally discouraged from using Wikipedia to write about themselves. In addition, usernames like yours are disallowed under our username policy.

Probably not. See WP:FAQ/Organizations for a helpful list of frequently asked questions by people in your position. Also, review the conflict of interest guidance to see the kinds of limitations you would have to obey if you did want to continue editing about your company, group, organization, or clients. If this does not fit in with your goals, then you will not be allowed to edit again. Consider using one of the many websites that allow this instead.
 * Am I allowed to make these edits if I change my username?

You are still welcome to write about something other than your company, organization, or clients. If you do intend to make useful contributions on some other topic, you must convince a Wikipedia administrator that you mean it. To that end, please do the following:
 * What can I do now?


 * Add the text on your user talk page.
 * Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:Listusers to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy.
 * Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In this reason, you must:
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, please see how to appeal a block.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  10:35, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

I've reviewed the deletion of your article. It's probably not a clear cut advert, so I've restored. This block remains, you can appeal as described above.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  15:11, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The appeal procedure is described under "What can I do now?" in the box above. Try that. It's unlikely that the block will be lifted, but you might be allowed to create a new account. If that fails, let me know here (I'm watching this page)  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:37, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * From what I see, the notifications are that the block is justified as per our username policy ... what makes you think otherwise? You should also note that you may not remove block notices while they are in force. ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 13:44, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. Last week I asked about the reasons of blocking my account and an administrator called Jimfbleak answered me: I've reviewed the deletion of your article. It's probably not a clear cut advert, so I've restored. This block remains, you can appeal as described above.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  15:11, 7 October 2011 (UTC) He also restored the article. I would like to add some things to the article (fact box, references) but as I am blocked I cannot do it. What do you recommend me to do? As to block notices then I haven't removed anything as far as I know :) I am sorry if I did it by accident ... I find it quite difficult at times to understand how editing in Wikipedia works. I hope you can help me.


 * I have deleted the article as a) unreferenced, b) promotional, and c) non-notable. Here are a few key questions:


 * Do you understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a business directory?
 * Do you understand conflict of interest?
 * Do you understand that to be considered for an encyclopedia article, the subject must be notable?

You are currently blocked because your username appears directly related to a company, group or product that you have been promoting, contrary to the username policy. Changing the username will not allow you to violate the 3 important principles above. ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 14:04, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Ok but why do so many online payment system providers have articles on wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_on-line_payment_service_providers It is hard to believe that all those articles were written by somebody not working for the companies. I think our article was really neutral, not promoting anything. That is why the other administrator restored it. It is hard to understand the policy if some are allowed to write an article about their company and others not. Could you please explain that? Thank you very much.
 * WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is not a good argument to use. I assume you have read the policies that I linked to so that you can better understand.  Surely, I'm happy to delete other articles as needed if they do not satisfy the criteria for inclusion, especially notability.  We cannot prevent every promo article at the time of creation, but they are often deleted later.  The article you wrote shows NO sign of notability - it's just another company, ho hum. ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 14:52, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Of course I understand and I brought the example of these other companies only to understand what should an article about a company be like to be suitable for Wikipedia. As I found so many of them then I concluded that Wikipedia has an interest in having articles about companies ... Anyway, would it be possible to write an article about payment institutions in general, for example?
 * Like, Payment Service Provider? ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 16:22, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

I see no evidence that any administrator has "who agreed the block was not justified". JamesBWatson (talk) 16:49, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Nordpay, you may want to edit your unblock request. The blocking admin stated that "It's probably not a clear cut advert, so I've restored. This block remains, you can appeal as described above" meaning that he felt deletion (at the time) might not have been needed, but as he says, "the block remains" because your userid clearly violates the username policy.  If you provide full understanding of the three points I noted above, and realize why your username is invalid, we should have no problem unblocking you so that you can go and change your username.  As the block notice shows, you will not be permitted to make the same edits, however, you will be able to add your knowledge and background to other areas of Wikipedia. ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 22:16, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your instructions.