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Archive 1
This is Archive 1, saved on 6/11/2008.

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Meetup on 24th August 2006
Apologies if you're already aware of this, but the Inaugural Adelaide Meetup will take place on Thursday 24th of August at Brougham Place Uniting Church, thanks to Alex Sims. Please indicate if you will attend or not.

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Unblock Me Please
I have done nothing wrong!
 * And you are not blocked, which means you have been autoblocked. Please give the info on the block page so we can override the autoblock. Ryūlóng 05:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you're probably editing from a shared IP address (say, a school, college, or summat), or a range of addresses which has recently been blocked to fix a major problem (usually vandalism). For what it's worth, I apologize for the inconvenience. As Ryulong requested, could you please post the information in the "you've been blocked" box? Luna Santin 05:14, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


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Meetup on 23rd April 2007
Hi Normangerman,

Apologies if you're already aware of this, but I'd like to let you know that the second Adelaide Meetup will take place on Monday 23rd of April at ZUMA Caffe, 56 Gouger Street, Adelaide. The meeting is at 7:30am for breakfast with Wikipedia founder Jimbo Wales. Please see Meetup/Adelaide/Meetup 2 for more details and indicate if you might attend.

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Mitcham railway station, Adelaide
I'm sure you're right, but what happened to buses 193, 195 & 197? Pdfpdf (talk) 12:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

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Adelaide Wikimeetup 3
Hi Norman - we're planning a third meetup in Adelaide sometime in the coming weeks, and would love to have you there. If you can, please help decide a location, a date and a time here. Thanks!

Adelaide Wikimeetup 3
Hi Normangerman - after some planning we've decided to hold the third Adelaide Wikimeetup on Sunday, 17th February, 2008. The meeting will be held at Billy Baxter's in Rundle Mall at 11:30AM. Further details and directions are available on the meetup page. Please RSVP here by 20:00UTC on 15th February 2008 (that's 6AM Saturday for our time zone) so that we can inform the restaurant about numbers. Hope to see you there!

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TransAdelaide Infoboxes
Hello. Yes, I enjoy helping with the articles on Adelaide's stations, and I try to put my knowledge into this. It may not be accurate, but it is the best I can do. I will try to continue to add more info on the articles. Happy to help. Rhysydude (talk) 05:32, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Adelaide's railway station shelters
Hello again. I noticed that the shelters at the Hallett Cove and Hallett Cove Beach stations look fairly new. Did these stations use to have shelters like the ones that the Ascot Park, Brighton, Seacliff, Marino, Marino Rocks and Lonsdale stations have right now? I'm just interested thats all, and if they did, I'll be happy to add the info on those pages if you want. Cheers. Rhysydude (talk) 04:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Salisbury railway station
Hi. I think someone is messing with a section of the TransAdelaide box, it currently says the station was opened in 1957, but it was really opened in 1857. This happened before, then I changed it to 1857, then it's been changed back to 1957. Should that person get a warning, or are you changing it? I'll change it back if you want. Rhysydude (talk) 03:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Salisbury station
I think Salisbury station was opened in 1857, along with the gawler line, because on the National Railway Museum website there is a photo of the Salisbury station from 1980, showing an 1857-like building on the down platform and I recall seeing an older photo from 1890 of a similar building on the up platform in the Picture Australia site. I hope this helps. Rhysydude (talk) 04:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Adelaide pics & infoboxes
Thanks for all your Adelaide station pictures - they are really good. Just wondering how you are going as regards the other ones that aren't there yet (e.g. the middle of the Gawler Line, middle of the Outer Harbor Line)— are you in need of help? (I live in Sydney but I could draw up a page like this one to help show which ones don't have photos in the chance that any keen editors could help out). Any chance of photos of the three closed stations on the Belair Line? Bridgewater Line stations that still exist (like Aldgate)?

I was also wondering whether you would think it worth cutting down the infoboxes a little - I think there's too much information in it and some of it (like whether there's toilets, etc. on the station) aren't really notable. Some historical dates might be a better option rather than just travel information to make it more like a Wiki article and less like a Wikitravel page. JRG (talk) 10:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * FYI: As a result of prompting by JRG, I have created a new page, and uploaded some more photos. The conversation with JRG is at User_talk:Pdfpdf. The new photos are at User talk:Pdfpdf/Belair Line - Next stop Sleeps Hill. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:15, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops. Actually, it's User talk:Pdfpdf/Belair Line
 * And now, User talk:Pdfpdf/Belair Line too.
 * Next stop Clapham. Pdfpdf (talk) 18:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * User talk:Pdfpdf/Elizabeth South December 2005. Pdfpdf (talk) 19:26, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

So will these photos be used in the articles? normangerman (talk) 13:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Even as we speak! (I have been putting them onto various Belair line stations (particularly Sleeps Hill.) Please feel free to use them (or not) as you wish.
 * (However, I won't be touching the Elizabeth South page - I'll leave it to you as to whether you want to use the Elizabeth South photos, or not. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Port River Expressway images
I tweaked your images that were used in the Port River Expressway article - cropped out the car bonnet and twiddled with the contrast. Hope you don't mind. Wongm (talk) 05:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:AdelaideSkylineLightsview.jpg
Mmmmmm. Nice photo! (Very sharp - I gather you used a tripod?) Where is "Lightsview"? (Montefiore Hill? Or further east than that?) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Lightsview is near Northgate. Lightsview

Thanks! (A lot further east than North Adelaide - I was a long way out. I guess that's why I couldn't originally spot the Myer Centre. It's easier to find if you know you're looking from the NE.) And did you use a tripod? And was it the camera's standard lens?

Changing subject, are any of those Belair Line photos of any use to you? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:07, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for the reply. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Skyline Shot
"Hey mate, I think the old image is outdated, which is why I replaced it." normangerman (talk) 13:36, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh. Sorry!
 * However, the "composition" of the other picture is quite different, and the two next to each other provide what to me is an interesting contrast. It might seem "extravagant", but I think each picture "tells a different story", and next to each other they make an interesting pair.
 * No doubt, others will disagree with me. If they provide a reasonable edit comment justifying their edit's I'll just sit back and watch.
 * (Also, not wanting to be blatantly rude, but personally, I think the other picture is "more attractive".)
 * Anyway, do whatever you think gives the "best" (whatever that means) outcome. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:00, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I have a similar angle to that which I can add to the article. I'll add it now.normangerman (talk) 14:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've uploaded it now. Tell me what you think.normangerman (talk) 14:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (Sorry for the delay in replying.) "What do I think?" Mmmm; you don't ask easy questions, do you! I've no desire to be offensive, but you did ask ... I think the two pictures together like that are too big - I think there's too much sky, and they're obviously of a different scale to the other pictures in the article. As a pair together like that, they stand out as being very "different" to all the other pictures in the article. However, I'm not really sure what's "better", (or "best"). [Oh dear. I sound like one of those people who says "I don't know anything about art, but I know what I like." ... ]. Sorry to be so vague - I'm afraid that, as a "hard scientist", I am perhaps not the best person to ask such questions? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:36, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey! I like that side-by-side arrangement with the smaller pictures.
 * (I now know what's "better"!) Good stuff. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:39, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Bus Transfer Boxes
I've started a new addition to the Railway Station articles... tell me what you think! Glanville_railway_station,_Adelaide Normangerman (talk • contribs) 12:08, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * "tell me what you think!" - That was a dangerous question!! Here goes:
 * My internet connection keeps dropping out tonight and I'm getting annoyed at having to do everything twice.
 * Is that the best picture of Glanville Station we have? It's not the most attractive place on the planet, is it!
 * Interesting track layout! I wonder why four platforms and three tracks, and why one track is served by two platforms? I've not seen that before.


 * However, I expect that was not exactly what you were seeking ...


 * 1) FYI, another WP interest I have is Oz Military biographies. Some wiki-friends and I have been adding tables of medals to the bio pages (e.g. Peter Cosgrove, Keith Payne). We have run into a vocal group who complain that this information is: "superfluous"; "not necessary"; "duplication"; "image cruft"; "already in the info box"; yada; yada; yada. I fear that you may risk similar reaction. Yes, the data in the "Transfers" section of the info box is but a mere and tiny subset of the information in your new table, but WP being WP and Murphy being Murphy, some pedant is "sure" to come along and make similar complaints.
 * 2) There's an awful lot of "white space" on that page. Why is the table so wide? i.e. Why doesn't it stop just to the right of "Birkenhead Bridge"? If it did, the table might then appear immediately under "A small bus/rail interchange was built adjacent to the station in the mid 1990's to cater for bus's serving the LeFevre Peninsula area.", which (I think) would look a lot better.
 * 3) One of the military bio pedants has introduced me to "show" - there must be a million examples, but I can't find one right now! There's a "sort-of" example at User:Abraham, B.S..  However, although similar, that's not exactly what I mean.
 * 4) What requirements are you intending to address by putting the table there? (e.g. Are you expecting people to use it in journey planning?)
 * 5) The page is about the railway station. Bus transfers are mentioned in the info box. How important are bus transfers to the history etc. of the railway station. Do they merit that much space?
 * 6) The table takes up more space, and is more eye-catching than the picture of the station. Is that desirable?


 * Well, that's a start. How else can I help? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

That looks pretty good! And yes, taking it out of the box will avoid problems with those who might complain about duplication. Well done. Pdfpdf (talk) 14:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Hey there. I noticed that you're not really using any edit summaries when you edit articles. They generally provide a helpful service to people browsing page histories by explaining what the edit you have made is. Please consider filling the edit summary box in in the future. - Mark 12:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Belair railway station, Adelaide‎;
Hi. I don't understand how what you have done has "fixed" the page, particularly when it wasn't broken. I'm guessing you mean "return page to 'standard' format"? If so, OK, if that's what you prefer. But why don't you like the layout where the attractive picture had been enlarged? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah. Fair enough. I conceed that it is more than just a matter of "preference" and/or "attractiveness", and that uniformity of style is more than just "a good idea".
 * I therefore guess you have no problem with the enlarged photo being in some other location on the page where it is not the focal point? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 22:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)