User talk:NorthBySouthBaranof/Archives/2021/February

Sockpuppet investigation
J.Turner99 (talk) 09:21, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation
J.Turner99 (talk) 09:21, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Unreliable references for Critical social justice
Thanks for your scrutiny of the referencing on this article - it's helped improve the quality substantially. Subsequent to your recent tagging of the article for Unreliable Sources, you removed some, so it's not clear whether the tag still applies to the extant references, and if so, which to. I would like to remove unreliable sources where they still exist, if there are better ones available Vastsmack (talk) 15:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Trolling
May I ask why you believe I was trolling? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.145.222.132 (talk) 15:02, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Katie Hurley and Vic Fischer
In case you weren't aware, unless you had her article watchlisted, Katie Hurley, Secretary to the Alaska Constitutional Convention, passed three days ago. That leaves delegate and former state senator Vic Fischer as the last survivor of the convention. He's almost 97, I think. If I can get the time, I'll do an article about him.Activist (talk) 15:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Smith College
Thank you for your attention to the Smith College article. Your edits eliminated a reference to reporting by Arianna MacNeill at boston.com for reasons that aren't clear. Your rewording could be misunderstood to say that McCartney made two statements instead of one. Your choice of quote from the McCartney letter, that the college's "commitment to, and strategies for, advancing equity and inclusion are grounded in evidence," does not contridict Shaw's account that they were "psychologically abusive" and so on - the alleged evidential grounding says nothing about the alleged abusive implementation. I have restored the MacNeill reference, revised the edits for clarity, and selected a different quote from the McCartney letter that disputes Shaw's account so that the point of view of the item remains neutral. ImmovableObject (talk) 14:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * You're wrong. I did not remove the Boston Globe source - it has always been there. You added a duplicate copy, which must now be cleaned up. McCartney's defense of the college's DEI policies is clearly relevant. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 14:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * My mistake - the Boston.com article is different. My point about McCartney's letter stands - if we're going to quote a disgruntled former employee four or five times, then McCartney's response must be given equal space and time. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 14:34, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Including the President's defense of the trainings is warranted, but repeating her talking points is not NPOV. "The aim of our equity and inclusion training is never to shame or ostracize" would be a better choice, and adding the sentence after it would equalize the length of respective treatments. I'll be happy to make that edit unless you'd like to. ImmovableObject (talk) 14:47, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Besides which, if it's worth mentioning that a disgruntled college president believes that her college's diversity trainings are grounded in evidence, then it's worth mentioning that her letter does not bother to provide that evidence. ImmovableObject (talk) 15:04, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Unless a reliable source mentions that, it would be prohibited original synthesis to do so. We're not permitted to provide personal comments or opinions in articlespace. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 03:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)