User talk:NorthBySouthBaranof/Archives/2021/November

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I don't propose any changes, I removed claims that were provided without references. Please provide the reliable references reliable published secondary sources to the unsubstantiated claims and everything will be OK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aldep77 (talk • contribs) 20:35, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

"wrongly suspecting Arbery"
Hello NorthBySouthBaranof, I'm concerned about your addition of "wrongly" to the suspicions of William Bryan and Gregory McMichael - particularly for Gregory. The sources say - McMichael told the detective there had been “numerous” break-ins and entering autos, and referred to Arbery as a “prime suspect,” during his interview. and -McMichael telling police who read his interview transcript to the court—that he assumed Arbery was the person who stole Travis McMichael’s pistol from his truck weeks prior. “The thing that was certainly a driving force in my mind is my son had a missing pistol... The sources mention the suspicions of past crimes but do not say these suspicions are wrong. Baseless suspicions of past crimes, it seems, but not proven wrong. The best thing is having sources that state "wrongly suspect" but where are they?  starship .paint  (exalt) 09:21, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The sources which state that there is no evidence Arbery committed any of those crimes. Arbery is entitled to a presumption of innocence, and stating that he was "suspected" of a crime is inappropriate without the clear statement that those suspicions are wholly unfounded and unsupported. So far as we're concerned, Arbery is innocent of any offense. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 09:36, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * At least to me, there's a difference between no evidence Arbery committed any of those crimes ... suspicions are wholly unfounded and unsupported and the "wrongfully" presumption of innocence. I'll try to adjust the wording to reflect the former.  starship .paint  (exalt) 12:51, 22 November 2021 (UTC)