User talk:Northamerica1000/Archive 84

Article deletion review
Hi Northamerica1000, Can you please review again Articles for deletion/Mahmudul Hasan Raju article? Mahmudul Hasan Raju, A Bangladeshi journalist got National Information and Communication Technology Awards, 2017 by the Government of Bangladesh. This is the highest ICT award in Bangladesh. As a national awardee, I think he is notable. NC Hasive •  talk  • 09:18, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello : Consensus at the deletion discussion was for deletion, which occurred after two full relistings of the discussion in hopes for it to have received more input. Three users opined for deletion, nobody opined for the article to be retained, and the !votes were all policy based, which is typically enough grounds for deletion. The second !vote for deletion was a "per nom"-style !vote, so it's unclear if the user performed source searching or not to determine notability. A key point to consider is WP:BASIC; ultimately, whether or not a subject has received significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. Also, award recipients can potentially be notable based upon the significance of the award, as per point #4-c of WP:JOURNALIST, "The person's work (or works) either..."..." (c) has won significant critical attention". North America1000 11:27, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Also, upon further consideration, I can restore the article to main namespece and then WP:RELIST the deletion discussion, which would allow you to post your opinion regarding the subject's notability at the deletion discussion itself, and then allow time for other users to potentially respond. This is in part per the second ambiguous "per nom" !vote in the deletion discussion, as I delineated above. North America1000 11:38, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Would you like for me to perform the above? North America1000 13:15, 22 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Sure. It would be great. NC Hasive  •  talk  • 14:29, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. I have restored the article and its talk page, re-opened the deletion discussion, and have relisted the deletion discussion. If you want to opine regarding the subject at this time, I recommend doing so at the deletion discussion, because people may not see or read your rationale presented on this talk page. North America1000 07:54, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

(Untitled)
Hi Northamerica1000. I don't mean to incite an edit war, but it seems like you personally proposed 11 deletions this month, 10 of which are for christian music labels. I will assume you are not doing this out of bias against them, but out of ignorance of them, as most are very notable to fans of various genres of christian music, but unknown to those outside the fanbase. I will agree that many of the articles are out of date especially in sources and dead links, but there is nothing in WP:CORPDEPTH that says the company has to be active, just notable, as there are tons of defunct companies with articles on Wikipedia and very little recent citable sources. Please let me know if you disagree why you disagree. I may have the time to clean up one or two of the articles, but others might have the Article for deletion tag for awhile. Lefton4ya (talk) 17:55, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello : I have nominated many record labels for deletion on and off through the months, and not only those with a focus on Christian music. First of all, I always first perform source searching as per WP:BEFORE to assess notability before any deletion nomination based upon notability. It's important to note that topic notability on Wikipedia is specific, and may differ from other standards. While some of the companies I have nominated for deletion may be notable in other avenues and arenas of the world, in order to be notable for Wikipedia's standards, topics typically need to meet the requirements set forth at WP:CORPDEPTH or WP:GNG. North America1000 23:26, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2018). Administrator changes
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Tech News: 2018-28
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 * WebM video files have smaller file size but still be of the same quality. Creating WebM files will take longer time.
 * The new filters for edit review tools and interface for watchlists will leave beta. This was supposed to already have happened but was delayed. For most wikis this will happen on 9 July. For the rest it will happen on 16 July.
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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 July. It will be on all wikis from 12 July (calendar).

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Tech News: 2018-29
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Recent changes
 * You can now use global preferences on Wikimedia wikis. You can set them on the global preferences page.
 * You can now see a new log of pages being created at Special:Log/create. It includes pages which are later deleted. It is now available on all Wikimedia wikis except Commons and Wikidata.
 * You can see how many pageviews a wiki had from specific countries. The |map|2-Year~2016060100~2018071100|~total Wikistats2 maps have now been updated.

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 17. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from July 18. It will be on all wikis from July 19 (calendar).

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Portals WikiProject update #012, 15 July 2018
We have 97 participants.

Getting faster
Automation makes things go faster, even portal creation. One of the components Certes made was Transclude list item excerpt. I became curious about its possible applications.

So I worked out a portal design using it, the initial prototypes being Portal:Kyoto (without a "Selected pictures" section), and Portal:Dubai (with a "Selected pictures" section). Then I used Portal:Dubai as the basis for further portals of this type...


 * I was able to revamp Portal:Munich from start to finish in less than 22 minutes.
 * Portal:Dresden took about 19 minutes.
 * Portal:Athens took less than 17 minutes.
 * Did Portal:Florence in about 13 minutes.
 * Portal:Stockholm also in about 13.
 * Portal:Palermo approx. 12 minutes.

Why?

To see, and to show, what may become feasible via automation.

It now looks highly feasible that we could get portal construction time down to a few minutes, or maybe even down to a few seconds.

The singularity is just around the corner. :)

Slideshows
When using the Random slideshow template to display pictures, be sure to use the plural tense in the section title: "Selected pictures". That's because slideshows don't show up on many mobile devices. Instead the whole set of pictures is shown, hence the section title "Selected pictures", as it fits both situations.

In case you are curious, here is a list of the portals so far that have a slideshow:


 * Algae
 * Amphibians
 * Anatomy
 * Ancient Tamil civilization
 * Athens
 * Bangladesh.
 * Berkshire
 * Birds
 * Buckinghamshire
 * Cenozoic
 * Dresden
 * Dubai
 * East Sussex
 * Fish
 * Florence
 * Florida


 * Genocide
 * Gilgit-Baltistan
 * H. P. Lovecraft
 * Hampshire
 * Human body
 * Humanism
 * Isle of Wight
 * Kent
 * London transport
 * Mammals
 * Milan
 * Munich
 * Oxfordshire
 * Palermo
 * Prague
 * Reference works
 * Reptiles


 * Sacramento
 * Saint Petersburg
 * Salem
 * Scottish Islands
 * South East England
 * Stockholm
 * Surrey
 * Sydney
 * Tamil People
 * Telephones (empty – please add some pictures)
 * Turin
 * Underwater diving
 * Vienna
 * West Sussex

Progress on intro conversions
The intros for most of the portals up through the letter "O" have been converted, using this wikicode:

Where the pagename didn't match the article title for the subject, the title was typed in.

Most of the portals that do not contain  or   have not yet been processed.

About a thousand portals use the method of selective transclusion for the intro section. That's about two-thirds. That means we have one-third of the way to go on the intro section conversions.

Much more to come...
So much has been happening with portals that I can't keep up with it. (That's good). Which means, more in the upcoming issue. Until then, see ya 'round the project. Sincerely,   &mdash; The Transhumanist   08:46, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Why Battlefield V is the best game ever
That's just vandalism. "Second is that you can fuck king in the ass, i think this is the best new feature they added and you can also call someone a nigg... " - bad enough, but if you look at Draft:Women with cricket bats in ww2 you'll see "king is retarded because he hasn’t read a history book". I'd just speedy delete both - it's a kid attacking another kid. Doug Weller talk 11:37, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi : I thought about CSD, and upon further consideration, have added the WP:G2 template. Maybe that will work out. I know that I could just delete the page as such, but many feel that it is best practice to tag and then have another admin delete. North America1000 21:54, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That's that for the first one. I nominated the draft you linked as G2 also. North America1000 22:21, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Sensible. I see they're gone. Doug Weller  talk 08:35, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That's it for the other one. North America1000 11:25, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

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Portals WikiProject update #011, 10 July 2018
We now have 97 participants.

Be sure to welcome our newest members, BrantleyIzMe, Coffeeandcrumbs, and Nolan Perry, with warm regards.

Work is proceeding apace. We have 2 major thrusts right now: converting the intro sections of portals, and building the components of the one-page automated model...


 * Converting the intro sections

We need everybody, except those building software components, to work on converting intros. If you have AWB, definitely use that. If not, then work on them manually. Even one a day, or as often as you can muster, will help a lot. There are only about 1,000 of them left to go, so if everyone chips in, it will go pretty quickly. Remember, there are 97 of us!

The intros for most of the portals starting with A through F have already been converted to use the Transclude lead excerpt template.

The standard wikicode for the automated intro that we want to put into place looks like this:

That works for most portals, but not all. For some portals it requires some tweaking, and for others, we may have to use a different or more customized approach. Remember to visually inspect each portal you work on and make sure that it works before moving on to the next one.

Be sure to skip user-maintained portals. They are listed at WikiProject_Portals.


 * AWB tips

I've started an AWB tips page, for those of you feeling a bit overwhelmed by that power user tool. Feel free to add to it and/or improve it.


 * Portal automation

We have some very talented Lua programmers, who are pushing the limits of what we can do in gathering data from Wikipedia's various namespaces and presenting it in portals. Due to their efforts, Lua is powering the selective transclusion core of our emerging automated portal design, in the form of selected article sections that rotate content, and slideshows.

To go beyond Lua's limits, to take full advantage of Mediawiki's API, we are in the midst of adding another programming language to the resources we shall be making use of: JavaScript. The ways that JavaScript can help us edit portals to boost the power of our Lua solutions, are being explored, which will likely make the two languages synergistic if not symbiotic. Research is under way on how we can use JavaScript to make some of the portal semi-automated features fully automatically self-updating, in ways that Lua cannot. Like gathering random members from a category and inserting them into a portal's templates as parameters. Once the parameters are in place, Lua does the rest.

If you would like to get involved with design efforts, or just keep up on them, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals/Design.


 * When should we start building new portals?

Well, not at the present time, because building portals is quite time consuming. The good news is that we are working on a design that will be fully automated, or as close to that as we can get. And the new design is being implemented in the portal department's main portal creation template. This means, that not only will portals update themselves, their creation will be highly automated as well. That's the nature of templates. You put them in place, and they just... work.

What I'm getting at here, is that it would be better to wait to build lots of new portals until after the new design is completed. Because with it, instead of taking hours to create a new portal, it will likely take minutes.

That does not mean we should be idle in the meantime. The main reason most of us are here is because it became apparent that portals were largely unmaintained and had grown out-of-date. This had become so apparent that a proposal was made to delete all the portals and the portal namespace to boot. That makes our main objective in the short term to improve all the existing portals so that the community will want to keep them&mdash;forever.

Building lots of new portals comes later. Let's fix up the ones we have first. ;)

And on that note, I bid you adieu. Until next newsletter, see ya 'round the WikiProject. &mdash; The Transhumanist  12:31, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your involvement with the slew of articles relating to the Catholic Church and homosexuality. They could benefit from additional voices. --BrianCUA (talk) 13:51, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, well, religion and sexuality is a contrived topic from the start. Religion has been used to guilt trip people regarding sexuality for millennia, and likely will never stop. When people believe in superstitious religious beliefs from the start, and then automatically believe whatever they're told by the clerics regarding sexuality, the result is ultimately brainwashing. As a fun side note, dildos used to be quite illegal in the Southern U.S. states in the not-so-distant past. It's part of the Christian-conservative modus operandi to control people's sexuality; as long as God's against it, then you can only fuck as we say. Used to be that missionary-style was the only accepted way to have sex, as per God, supposedly. Religious leaders have known for quite some time that controlling people's sexuality via religious guilt leads to a more conforming citizenry; a citizenry that is then subsequently more easily controlled, particularly by theocracies. Thump that bible. Cheers, North America1000 10:07, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * And also, Some catholic priests are gay. I may unwatchlist all of these articles, because judging from some of their edit summaries, it just goes in circles. North America1000 11:44, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

AfD question
Hi Northamerica1000, if an AfD receives no !votes at all, do you WP:SOFTDELETE? I am talking specifically about Liz George. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 21:20, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi I have been performing more soft deletions for such discussions lately, essentially closing in the manner of an expired prod. I chose to relist the discussion for George because the previous AfD discussion for the subject resulted in a keep result, although the arguments for retention were relatively weak compared to today's standards at AfD. North America1000 21:30, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Your PROD article Ahvaz derby
This article has already deleted in 2014 via PROD. So... Hhkohh (talk) 07:06, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello : Thanks for the notification. As per WP:PROD, "PROD is one-shot only: It must not be used for pages PRODed before or previously discussed at AfD or FfD." As such, I have restored the article. I usually find previous prods, but missed this one for some reason. North America1000 22:04, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It was successfully deleted in 2014 and was re-created in 2018. There was no use of Old PROD full on the talk page. How am I to know? I'm expected to check the deletion log? Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 01:39, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * An honest mistake on both our parts. FYI, a quick way to check if a live article has been deleted before is to open its Revision history page and then select the "View logs for this page" link in the upper left-hand corner of the page. This shows all logged actions that have occurred for a live page. For articles that have been deleted, yes, there's the deletion log from where one can search, and also the All public logs page, which denotes all logged actions for both live and deleted articles. North America1000 05:25, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

IP editor 111.65.57.70
Hi, noted that you blocked User talk:111.65.57.70, IP editor started using another IP 111.65.57.110 in the same range --Xaiver0510 (talk) 02:34, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello Thanks for the notice. The present, newer edits do not appear to constitute vandalism, and it's at least possible that it could be a different person. North America1000 03:41, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #013, 18 July 2018
I got overwhelmed IRL (in real life) during the production of issue #12. So, here is a catch-up issue, to help bring you (and me) up to speed on what is happening with portals...

By the way, we still have 97 participants. (Tell all your friends about this WikiProject, and have them join!)

Panoramas!
One cool feature of some of the geographical portals is a panoramic picture at the top of the intro section.

Check these out:
 * Portal:Kyoto
 * Portal:Miami
 * Portal:Seattle
 * Portal:Houston
 * Portal:Tokyo
 * Portal:New Orleans
 * Portal:Brisbane
 * Portal:Calgary
 * Portal:Moscow

The Portals WikiGnome squadron is busy adding panoramas to geographical portals that don't yet have one. Feel free to join in on the fun. See task details at WikiProject Portals.

Caveat: avoid super-huge pics, as they can cause portal scripts to time-out. Please try to keep picture size down below 2 megabytes. Thank you.

Auto-populated slideshows
Speaking of pictures...

We now have two slideshow templates. You may be familiar with Random slideshow, in which the editor types in (or copies/pastes) a list of pictures he or she wants it to display.

Well, now we have another template, courtesy of Evad37, which accepts one or more page names instead, and displays a random image off of the listed pages. So instead of listing dozens of files by hand, you can include a title or three to be scanned automatically. It even lets you specify particular sections.

The new slideshow template is Transclude files as random slideshow.

Here's a sample, that grabs images from a single page:

New Template:Box-header colour
Speaking of new templates, here's another one!

Also from Evad37, we have a new component for starting section boxes, that is color configurable, and that bypasses the need for box-header subpages altogether. It is Box-header colour.

For color support, see Web colors.

For the discussion in which this was inspired, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals/Tasks.

(In case you didn't notice, the slideshow box above uses this new template).

BTW, don't forget to close your box with Box-footer.

Where are we on the redesign?
The answer to this question is quite involved, and would fill this page to overflowing. Therefore, this subject, including a complete update on where we are at and where we are going with portal design, is covered at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals/Design.

Where are we on portal conversion?
An AWB pass to convert intros on the portals has been completed. The pass couldn't convert them all (due to various formatting configurations, etc.).

All but about 170 portals now have introductions selectively transcluded on the base page. Not counting manually maintained portals, that leaves about 70 portals that either need their intros converted, or they need an intro.

Next, we'll be converting the categories sections!

What's the plan, man?
The course of action we have been taking goes something like this, with all steps being pursued simultaeneously...

1) Design a one-page automated portal model

2) Convert existing portals to that design (except those being manually maintained)

3) Remove subpages no longer needed

4) Develop further tools to empower editors working on portals

Later, when the tools are up to the task, filling in the gaps in coverage (with new portals) will also become practical.

Are we caught up yet?
Probably not.

Who knows what our programmers and editors have dreamed up while I was writing this.

See ya again soon,   &mdash; The Transhumanist   11:08, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Coir malfunction
Please search

was replaced with this code:

And the new section blended right in with the formatting of the rest of the page. Note the use of the  magic word. Plain article titles also work. Don't feel limited to one or two page names. But be sure to test each slideshow before installing the next one. (Or if you prefer, in batches - just don't leave them hanging). Report technical problems at the Portal design talk page.

Fun activity #3: upgrade "Selected article" sections
These sections, where unmaintained, have gone stale. That's because 1) the excerpts are static, having been manually copied and pasted, and 2) because they lack automatic addition of new entries.

They can be upgraded with:

Transclude random excerpt

or

Transclude list item excerpt

or

Transclude linked excerpt

All three of these will provide excerpts that won't go stale. The latter two can provide excerpt collections that won't go stale, by providing new entries over time. The key is to select source pages or source sections that are frequently updated, such as root article sections, mainstream lists, or navigation templates.

Where will this put us?
When the above tasks are completed for the entire collection of portals (except the ones with specific maintainers), we'll be more than half-way done with the portal system upgrade.

Keep up the great work. &mdash; The Transhumanist  19:14, 30 July 2018 (UTC)