User talk:Northamerica1000/Archive 96

Could you please tell me why have you deleted the article about Soul Button?
Hello Northamerica1000, could you please tell me why have you deleted the article about Soul Button?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Button

After I created the article over twenty days ago, it was reviewed and approved by Ser Amantio di Nicolao, who made over 3,090,500 contributions to Wikipedia and who created over 35,000 articles, which makes him the user with the highest number of contributions on Wikipedia.

Only a few days later the article was nominated for deletion by Ceethekreator.

I explained him why I think that Soul Button deserves to have a page on Wikipedia, because he is not just a DJ, but also an entrepreneur who runs a few record labels with many different artists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Soul_Button

No one else participated in the discussion after that and since a week has passed, the discussion was relisted by RL0919.

Again a week has passed without anyone else saying anything against the article so Sandstein relisted it too.

One more week has passed without anyone else telling anything bad about the article and since the deletion discussions shouldn't be relisted for more than two times, I hoped that now the article will be live and that I will be able to continue contributing to Wikipedia.

But then I saw that you deleted the article without any message or explanation and without a consensus.

Could you please tell me the reason? Could you please take the article back online?

Thank you!

NMGS19 (talk) 14:51, 18 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello : The article was soft-deleted per Articles for deletion/Soul Button, and as such, WP:REFUND is applicable relative to your request above for the article to be restored. The Soul Button article and its talk page have been restored. North America1000 08:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

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Talk page design
Hello again, North. I hope you don't mind but.. is it okay if I borrow the style of your user talk page for use on mine? I really like the design! Thank you. KoopaLoopa (talk) 17:03, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi : Go for it, but please do not use my links on your talk page (e.g. my user page links in the tabbed header atop), and be sure to not have the administrator userbox on your page, since you're not an admin. North America1000 18:15, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

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Mails here
Also, could you please help me out in blocking and page protection for the page Will Roland. I am pushing back the vandalism as much as I can, but multiple accounts are being abused and the page is constantly being attacked. Thank you. AmericanAir88(talk) 15:27, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks like the pp part was already just handled (diff). North America1000 15:32, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I am very appreciative it was taken care of. I felt like I was at war. Now that the dust has settled, new Mail is here! AmericanAir88(talk) 15:34, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks like is handling blocking when applicable (e.g. ). North America1000 15:35, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've noticed. They put up a fight, but they were no match for the good ol' Wiki-P. Mails here when you have the chance. AmericanAir88(talk</b>) 15:36, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

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Your draft article, User:Avaldesm/House of Knowledge International School


Hello, Northamerica1000. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "House of Knowledge International School".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:53, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Nb. This was not a draft I created, it was a page I userfied for a user. North America1000 07:32, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Portal navbar
Template:Portal navbar has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Guilherme Burn (talk) 16:28, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Natural Ice Cream logo.png
Thanks for uploading File:Natural Ice Cream logo.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:43, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Nb. The company's new logo has been placed in the article, so this older logo is no longer needed. Tagged with WP:G7. North America1000 23:13, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Mail Call
Great to hear you are doing well. <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 20:03, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

M.a.i.l

 * Did my talk page message not go through or error? It disappeared from your talk page. There is a question that needs to be answered in it. <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 20:45, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I received it. I archive these notices rather quickly. Check your mail. Cheers, North America1000 20:51, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

M-A-I-L
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Need your help!
Hi Northamerica1000, I am having issues with one area at Portal:Traditional African religions. I have already created the Selected articles archive page as well as the corresponding page layout. However, when I try to give a footer=More articles... instruction on the main page in order to link to the archive page, It does not link. Do you know how to fix this? Once I know how to fix this I should be able to do the same for the other relevant sections. Although the Selected biography section is showing Archive/Nominations - linking to the corresponding archive page, I had to manually do this on each selected bio. Obviously I need to change that once I figure out how to do it properly. If I'm not mistaken, I think the change should take place on the main page itself. However I am having problems with it. Please help! Thanks.Tamsier (talk) 09:15, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello . I accomplished the improvement by adding links to the portal box footers (diff, diff, diff). Thanks for your work to improve Wikipedia. North America1000 10:17, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Fantastic! Thanks for your help.Tamsier (talk) 10:27, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem. Let me know if you need any additional assistance. North America1000 10:28, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Since you created Category:Cream soups
I was wondering if you'd like to weigh in at Talk:Creamy soup. Thanks, Зенитная Самоходная Установка (talk) 15:43, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know about the discussion. I don't know if I'll contribute or not at this time. North America1000 19:23, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, after I left that note for you, I researched more and kinda figured out what was going on. Зенитная Самоходная Установка (talk) 19:27, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Mail is here
Do you have any projects you need help on? <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 14:21, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

A fellow Deadhead I see
Hello NorthA,

I see you are fellow Deadhead. My favorite is | A Friend of the Devil. These songs really take me back to the country drives. Also, when you get the change, check your email. <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 02:45, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi : hey, cool. I've been a proponent of their music for decades. They just kept chugging along (e.g. Fotd 10-17-94, a soundboard, but not the best sound in terms of loudness, for whatever reasons). They weren't the best at what they did, but they were the only ones that did what they did. North America1000 04:23, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I totally agree with you. I love Chicago, Billy Joel, and the dead. These bands what real music is. I’ve seen all three of these bands in concert and there is nothing like it. People unified over great rock. <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 05:09, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Mail is here in addition. <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 05:14, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

125.178.55.42
She is back under user:125.178.55.42. CLCStudent (talk) 03:08, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification. North America1000 03:09, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, probably not the same person afterall. CLCStudent (talk) 03:10, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Moving forward by removing the negative person
Perhaps best we try to have a conversation without that brown administrator jumping in and insulting everyone and saying the same thing over and over. Can't move forward when we have someone unwilling to hear others out and going out of their way to be combative. IRC chat might be a good way to see what proposals the community can move forward on. Moxy 🍁 21:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review for Internet Killed Television
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Internet Killed Television. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. NinaUTA (talk) 17:40, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi N.b. See below, which I have copied here from Deletion review/Log/2019 July 10. The matter was attended to while I was away from Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 21:02, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

If you want to work on it a little, I'd suggest getting it moved to your userspace. If you need any help, we have a guide to writing articles for new users and you can ask questions at the AfC help desk, as well as the Teahouse, Help desk or the Live Help IRC. Alpha3031 (t • c) 01:37, 11 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I've restored this to User:NinaUTA/Internet Killed Television. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:51, 11 July 2019 (UTC).

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks : I feel the portal has merit, and hopefully it will continue to expand and grow. Thanks for the star. North America1000 05:41, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Email before my flight tomorrow

 * Going to bed to wake up at 3:30 AM... I have an email before I fly off. I'll try to stay in touch while away. Talk to you soon. <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:NATO portal


A tag has been placed on Category:NATO portal requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Cuisine portals


A tag has been placed on Category:Cuisine portals requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Question
Should I wait until you log back on or not? Maybe tonight? Thank you <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 18:10, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm logging off shortly for now, after which, I'll be back in around 8 hours. Cheers, North America1000 18:13, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Question
Hello NorthA,

Are you online anytime soon? I was thinking 11pm EST? <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 02:15, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm back. North America1000 03:49, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Shall we proceed? <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 03:55, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm ready if you are. Just let me know! North America1000 03:56, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

As it reaches midnight... I say:
Lets Roll. <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 03:58, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I have sent a new email. Also, can I go to bed or will questions start coming in soon? Thank you. <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 04:46, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Nitey night. We all need sleep, and I figured our schedule differences would conflict a bit (RfA going live around your bedtime). Right now, I'm waking up with some coffee. I'd get the rest, so you're rested. Cheers, North America1000 04:59, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Good night. Cheers and check the inbox. Enjoy some flame roasted coffee! <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 06:01, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Wyoming
The Wyoming MfD close interpreted WP:POG as defining "broad" to mean "attracting maintainers". For example, had only 29 edits in ten years; therefore the Earth is by definition too narrow a topic to merit coverage.

I am also taking a semi-wikibreak, which will probably turn into retirement. I've enjoyed ten productive years here but the limitless time and energy going into destroying our work deters me from contributing further. I still follow conversations elsewhere and can at least promise moral support. Perhaps it is time to consider copying endangered pages, with appropriate attribution, to a place where others have no deletion rights. They would still be visible to external search engines and there is no Wikipedia search presence to lose. If all else fails, April's events inspire hope that the community has the courage to deal with personal attacks. All the best, Certes (talk) 00:08, 1 August 2019 (UTC)


 * A subject area should be defined as the overall scope of available coverage on Wikipedia about a given topic. A subject area's broadness should not defined by the number of readers or maintainers a portal has. For example, per its present Revision history, the Physics article on Wikipedia does not attract a large number of maintainers, but it is certainly quite broad in topical scope. People would laugh heartily if the Physics article was nominated for deletion as lacking topical broadness because it is not edited regularly. Now, I know, it's an article, not a portal, but still. The syllogism of how WP:POG is worded is a bit absurd.


 * Regarding portal deletion, I'm sort of waiting it out, and then will likely work to improve those that remain from time-to-time. North America1000 00:38, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

The continued enthusiasm amongst portalistas for retaining unmaintained portals is extraordinary to behold. It's also a significant factor in why the culling process has been so heated.

I have been astonished to see Wyoming being chosen as the venue for a big stand. It has the smallest population of any US state, barely more than County Cork, so it is unsurprising that it has attracted so little attention.

The story of en.wp portals could have been so very different if efforts had been concentrated on a small set of core portals, rather than spread out across this still-huge set of barely-maintained and barely-read. It's still not too late for portalistas to refocus. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 11:18, 2 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Further reply to Another notion is that it takes a lot more effort to create and maintain portals compared to working to have them deleted. For deletion, one only needs to devise a one-off nomination for MfD and then wait for 2-3 participants who typically !vote for deletion of portals. No Collaboration is needed to attain deletion. Conversely, attempts to solicit collaborations for portals can be uphill, because 1) there are way lesser portal editors compared to article editors, 2) it can be difficult to find collaborators in the other namespaces, and portals are again, edited by lesser editors, 3) sometimes folks may collaborate and then move onto other things, take a break, retire, etc., and 4) attempts to solicit editors for collaboration may be met with disdain, in which long walls of text are then posted about other matters, bludgeoning the intent of the post and deterring others from reading and responding to the initial query (e.g. see this, from "Collaboration – Country and major geographical Portals" all the way down to the "Collaboration – Country and major geographical Portals (3.0)" section). North America1000 10:16, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Triaged subpage category
What is the point of that "Portals with triaged subpages from August 2019" category on Portal:Climbing? Is something wrong with the sub-pages? --Hecato (talk) 11:10, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * It's a subcategory of Category:Portals with triaged subpages, a maintenance category. I went ahead and created a page for the previously red-linked category, so it's now hidden on the portal page. Thanks again for volunteering your time to WP:IMPROVE Wikipedia's portal content. North America1000 12:14, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah okay, I was a bit confused about the category. I really think portals can be useful, I am sad to see Portal:Golf is about to go down the drain soon. It might have become useful with some more overhaul. Generally the pure sport portals (the ones that are left) could be more attractive to readers with a heavier focus on on-going competitions. Displaying recent competition results and event articles and such. Wikinews sadly appears to be kind of dead in the water, but Portal:Current events/Sports is pretty good on the ball and can be transcluded. I also thought about looking more into the issue of Portals being basically completely excluded from mobile views. Do you know if that was done on purpose? --Hecato (talk) 15:07, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know about the mobile viewing. I assume portals work, because I saw state somewhere that the portal links in articles only work on mobile views when the portal link is placed using inline wiki-markup. North America1000 05:54, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

What do you think
Category:Cocktails with lemonade or Category:Lemonade cocktails? Зенитная Самоходная Установка (talk) 15:33, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd probably stick with Category:Cocktails with lemonade, since other categories listed at Category:Cocktails by ingredient use this format. Cheers, North America1000 12:18, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, yeah, I was wondering if they should all be switched over or if we should stick with this format. Thus far, we haven't invested too deeply in the "cocktails with x" format, as a lot of cocktails haven't been categorized by ingredient yet. Зенитная Самоходная Установка (talk) 18:03, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * May be best to leave well enough alone. If the category page names are changed, then someone will have to go back to all the articles listed under those categories and change them to the newly-named categories. Much work for not much reward, imo. North America1000 00:55, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's true, although they have pages like Beer cocktail instead of Cocktail with beer. Hmm. Зенитная Самоходная Установка (talk) 01:11, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

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