User talk:Northern Escapee/Archive 1

Disruptive use of WP:TWINKLE
Hello, I'd just like to let you know that replacing a PROD with an AfD is considered disruptive editing. Removing a PROD should only be done when you yourself disagree with it, and creating an AfD should only be done when you personally have a rationale for deleting an article. The same person who removes a PROD should never create an AfD for the article they removed it on, as that is essentially stating you believe that article should be kept.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 09:48, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: ZZA
Hello Northern Escapee. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of ZZA, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Disambiguation pages are not A7-eligible. Thank you. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:14, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages don't have notability
I noticed you just nominated ZZA for speedy deletion under CSD A7 using Db-event. Are you aware that ZZA is a disambiguation pages, not an article, and as such is not about an event and does not have notability beyond the articles that it links to. Disambiguation pages may be deleted under WP:G14 but that criterion is not met in this case. Greenshed (talk) 20:18, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Francisco Gómez Linares
Hello Northern Escapee. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Francisco Gómez Linares, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not nonsense - there is meaningful content. Thank you. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:11, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello but the article Francisco Gómez Linares in its current form does not have contents and citations to verify the subject aside the stand alone infobox. I have never seen any biographical article without content and sources. And there was nothing to indicate the article was under construction. Northern Escapee (talk) 16:22, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

A lengthy welcome
Hi Northern Escapee. Welcome to Wikipedia. I hope you don't mind if I share some of my thoughts on starting out as a new editor on Wikipedia: If I could get editors in your situation to follow just one piece of advice, it would be this: Learn Wikipedia by working only on non-contentious topics until you have a feel for the normal editing process and the policies that usually come up when editing casually. You'll find editing to be fun, easy, and rewarding. The rare disputes are resolved quickly and easily.

Working on biographical information about living persons is far more difficult. Wikipedia's Biographies of living persons policy requires strict adherence to multiple content policies, and applies to all information about living persons including talk pages.

If you have a relationship with the topics you want to edit, then you will need to review Wikipedia's Conflict of interest policy, which may require you to disclose your relationship and restrict your editing depending upon how you are affiliated with the subject matter. Regardless, editing in a manner that promotes an entity or viewpoint over others can appear to be detrimental to the purpose of Wikipedia and the neutrality required in articles.

Some topic areas within Wikipedia have special editing restrictions that apply to all editors. It's best to avoid these topics until you are extremely familiar with all relevant policies and guidelines.

If you work from reliable, independent sources, you shouldn't go far wrong. WP:RSP and WP:RSN are helpful in determining if a source is reliable.

I hope you find some useful information in all this, and welcome again. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 22:13, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

PRODS being moved to Afd
Hello Northern Escapee. Welcome to the WikiCommunity. Your recent edits involved moving the PRODS Chantinelle and Ron Allen (journalist) to Articles for deletion. While there is nothing technically wrong with these noms, they reflect hastiness and lack of judgement as the unchallenged PRODS we're still in session. Afd is generally reserved; for topics that are controversial, articles that may require proper debate on or notable articles that may be improved by involving more editors. In both the cases stated above, the PRODS were unchallenged, uncontroversial and WP:BEFORE searches had established that notability was currently non-existent, and were likely to have been accepted for deletion anyway. So next time it may be a better idea to let the PROD run its course. The same has been covered here. Other than that...Happy Editing. TheRedDomitor (talk) 04:13, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello, thanks for this and I have learnt. Northern Escapee (talk) 08:01, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Speedies
Hi, just a note that it's best to wait at least half an hour before tagging an article for speedy deletion. Unless it's an attack page, there's really no rush. Many creators (especially new ones) start with a one line article just to see if it works, and then slowly work on it for the next hour. It's too early to judge whether a two minute article with a work-in-progress infobox is nonsense or not. I personally tend to have this code in common.css:  to hide the newest articles from the feed.

In general however I'd recommend just improving articles for a few weeks before tagging other articles for deletion. One really does learn a lot about Wikipedia by just improving articles.

– Thjarkur (talk) 22:13, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

October 2020
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to IFRS 7, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. Idell (talk) 14:37, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

tagging Theseus scamander
Hi there,

Thanks for getting involved in tagging new articles! I notice you tagged Theseus scamander for WP:A7 recently. A7 only applies, among other things, to an article on a real person. Since the contents of that article made it clear it was about a fictional character, A7 is not appropriate in this instance. I would, however, agree there is little information in the article that merits the creation of a standalone article, so a redirect may be appropriate. I also echo the comments made by other users above that you should give the article creator some time to improve the article before tagging it for deletion (even speedy deletion), unless the content is so unsalvageable that it must be removed at once (e.g. personal attacks, copyright infringements, hoaxes). Please let me know if you have any concerns, and happy editing --Dps04 (talk) 07:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Noted and thanks for this,. Northern Escapee (talk) 07:36, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

About tagging Trikonam_(film) for speedy deletion
Gosulo_(film) and Trikonam_(film) are same films directed and acted by same cast and crew but in different languages so it is appearing to be same or duplicate Hello, the film is in two different local languages but two English Wikipedia articles can't be created for them since the plot and characters are same. It is better to state clearly the two languages where the film exist. Northern Escapee (talk) 06:48, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Reg: Your suggestion for the deletion of "Krishna Sarthak" film producer
Krishna Sarthak is one of the prominent Indian producer from the Kannad film industry. He produced 4 Kannad movies and his current project is with Kannada Super Star Sivaraj Kumar. I have included the references from the Times of India website and filmibeat.com websites.

for more proof, you can search "Krishna Sarthak film producer" in Google.

If any errors please give suggestions.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by IGayathri (talk • contribs) 09:23, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Using Multiple Accounts
After a thorough review of your edit history(your first edit up until your latest one) it appears you are a Nigerian editor who has edited previously under a different account & are currently engaging in bad faith sock puppetry or block evasion, either of which would get you indefinitely blocked but you already know that. AGF, hypothetically speaking If you are editing under this account because you forgot the password of your previous account, please you must cease editing until you declare the names of all your previous accounts. Celestina007 (talk) 21:17, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your investigation and spurious allegation of using multiple accounts. First, is there any country related articles an editor should not edit? Is editing based on country of origin? What about those who have lived in different countries and have good knowledge of them? I request that you kindly continue with your investigation and do share your findings. But it baffles me that this kind of allegation is leveled against me. Northern Escapee (talk) 07:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It’s always “spurious” “baffling” & whatever adjective you can use until you get hit with the indefinite block that is invariably coming your way. Just wait for it. Celestina007 (talk) 08:54, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Dicle Ozcer
Dear Northern Escapee This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because, as it can be found in the article, the person has written, directed and produced five short films. She has received more than 10 awards for her films, and the article has links for each of them. Her film is officially selected for more than 21 national and internatioanal film festivals. She was invited to educational institutes as a speaker multiple times. As it can be seen from these examples, this article doesn’t meet the criteria for speedy deletion Regards. -- Gemalmaz   ileti  13:21, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion tagging
Hello, Northern Escapee,

Please read Criteria for Speedy Deletion. If you tag a page for speedy deletion, one of the CSD criteria must apply. If you have questions, please visit the Teahouse. Liz Read! Talk! 18:14, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

A7
I think that, as a diddly issue, you used the wrong A7 tag in tagging multiple swimmers for lack of a credible claim of significance. You tagged them as db-music and meant to tag them as db-person. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:07, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Veljko Lalic
Hello Northern Escapee. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Veljko Lalic, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. Ged UK  10:23, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Shreya Bugde
Hello Northern Escapee, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Shreya Bugde, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Has appeared in several notable programs which provides a credible claim of significance. . You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Barkeep49 (talk) 17:55, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
Thank you for your patience in tagging twice. I now deleted it. ◅ Sebastian 21:51, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

List of Previous Accounts
Please list all your previous accounts or current alternate accounts. Thanks for complying. Celestina007 (talk) 18:08, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I’m still waiting you know. Celestina007 (talk) 20:01, 19 December 2020 (UTC)


 * How do I list or declare what I do not have? Northern Escapee (talk) 13:14, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay then. Time will tell. Celestina007 (talk) 14:47, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

EFounders AfD
Hi. Can you explain your thinking about how there was a keep consensus for the EFounders AfD? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 13:58, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, and thanks for this. I closed the AFD as keep because the number of those who voted to keep the article were more than those for deletion but I would later realise that closing it as keep was not very accurate. I came to this conclusion when I visited other AFDs and saw that not all 'keep' votes are in good faith but at this time I was unable to revert the action. I have learned from this. Regards, Northern Escapee (talk) 07:38, 7 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Northern: fixing this is definitely possible. To do so, undo your close and XfDCloser will reappear and you can relist it (being mindful of the guidelines around 3rd relists) or close it as "No Consensus". I would also suggest that you are perhaps not ready to close AfDs as there is more nuance to determining consensus than just counting votes. There is a reason some editors refer to them as !vote (or not votes). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:40, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Relist at Articles for deletion/Lou Bekeza
Hi Northern Escapee. I have closed this AfD because I think a relist was inappropriate. Please see WP:RELIST and WP:BADNAC for more information. My advice is that instead of trying to close AfDs, you offer positions (i.e. !vote) in them after carefully considering relevant policies. There is a much greater need for more AfD !voters than for closers; you'll be helping out much more if you participate in AfDs that way, and closing AfDs is often very challenging for newer editors and can cause disruption. Best, KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 19:54, 9 January 2021 (UTC)