User talk:NortyNort/Archive2

Ames Power Plant
Why did you take out the coordinates for the Ames Power Plant? It seems pretty standard information. Additionally, it is not easy to find the plant without the coordinates. User talk:Never been to spain

Hydroelectricity
Hello NortyNort. Being the two latest editors (along with Wtshymanski) who edited the article, I would like to hear on what you think about the new merged version. I intend to change the article to that version soon as discussed on the article talkpage. Please share your views here. Thanks. Kind regards. Rehman(+) 13:36, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Controversial?
Hello NortyNort, welcome back. Please see this discussion when you get the time. Kind regards. Rehman(+) 10:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, I did a comparison in my opinion. Let me know if you need help, I will be working on the history section a bit in the next few weeks.--NortyNort (talk) 11:34, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Regards. Rehman(+) 14:25, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

More Hoover
I've done a sweep through the article and cleaned up a lot of small rephrasings, Manual of Style issues, that kind of thing. If Fasach Nua feels an image fails NFCC, it's generally not worth arguing about, he is most likely right, and in this case, with so many images (although I loved that cartoon), it is not worth the fight. A but unhappy there aren't more comments, but it is early days yet.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:07, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea, I am not going to lie, I was a little upset to see it go too. Was it off a Bureau website? If I ever see it as free ill let ya know. Well today is my last day on Wiki for awhile, hopefully I can catch any comments if they come.--NortyNort (talk) 14:02, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was on a Bureau website but that doesn't change the fact that it was copyright by the LAT. I think I could make a case for it being appropriate fair use and perhaps after the FAC I'l post at the the appropriate noticeboard and see what people think, but this is not the time.  Good luck with the move.  I'm home until July 8, so I'll cover while you are gone.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:17, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, then that admin is good then. I wouldn't have figured, at what link was the image found? --NortyNort (talk) 14:25, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Here.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:30, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Aaah, it is a picture of a document. I found the same one at the President Hoover library archives. It sources the national archives but the same copyright would apply I guess. The Bureau of Reclamation's copyright policy says some images are not free. Guess we would have to contact them.--NortyNort (talk) 17:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably the LA Times licensed it to appear in the publication.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:08, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There is a two day consortium on Hoover Dam in late October with a special (rather expensive) tour of the dam. I have to go to California sometime in late summer/early fall, am giving some thought to going to this.  Don't know if you have any interest in it, but the details are here.  Even if I can't go, I'd like to see about getting a copy of the consortium papers.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds cool, I can't make it though. What is crazy is that my brother lives in Las Vegas, I visit him yearly and him and his wife are having a baby in October. Yet, I will be out of country then. Major bummer, two great reasons to go out there. By the way, I just finished my latest creation, the Yuma Project which was a sort of precursor to the Hoover Dam and Imperial Dam. --NortyNort (talk) 13:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm waiting for details on the tour. At $125, it had better be pretty dam extensive.  I had actually searched for information on anything they might be doing on September 30, and hoped to use the Wiki connection for a photo pass or something, but there's nothing yet out there.  Sorry you can't go.  I also should contact my continuing legal education office and see if I can use the hours towards my requirements.  It is possible, one of my first cases as a lawyer was helping out on a case involving defective concrete balconies on a condo building, which has been a problem now  and then in the DC area.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:30, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea, that is pretty expensive. I actually just left the DC area if you live there. I just remembered I knew a guy who worked in the Bureau of Reclamation who offered me free Hoover tours. Problem is that his business card is packed away. I bet you I can find his e-mail from an old e-mail. I'm sure they would give you a pass after reading the article.
 * I'll keep my eye on their website. If you run across it, please let me know, best by email to me.  BuReclamation seems very public-minded, with all the info and images on its website.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:17, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem! --NortyNort (talk) 21:27, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Recognition
Thanks, i'm sure we could do those dam analogies all day. Now I can get back to fun things like fixing all the lists of tallest dams.--NortyNort (talk) 12:25, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep in mind that you can use this as a model in getting other dam articles to FA. I doubt any dam has had the number of books written about it as has Hoover, still there is probably a fair amount out there about other major dams.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:27, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Definitely, I had thought about the Three Gorges Dam as it is the only other dam on such a monumental level, particularly in the media. But hard information is hard to come by, especially on the internet, most of it is in Chinese. I do have a few others in mind though.--NortyNort (talk) 12:30, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it's clear that images would not be a problem for any Bureau of Reclamation dam.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:37, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Yea, the Glen Canyon and Grand Coulee have some cool images but nothing tops their site on the Hoover. I was think of getting one of the dam/power plant lists as featured, doesn't seem as hard as an article.--NortyNort (talk) 12:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it isn't. Give it a shot.  Yes, I agree, Hoover had the blessing of a great web site.  If Grand Coulee got a million visitors a year, bet they'd have a similar website ...--Wehwalt (talk) 13:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * True. So was this the fastest FAC process you had?--NortyNort (talk) 13:14, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, six days and odd hours. The old record was eight days and some hours, for Albert Speer.  Both were subjects I think a lot of people found fascinating and that led to an easy FAC.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:18, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Per your request you are now a Reviewer
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 * Thank you.--NortyNort (talk) 09:10, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh. You should have asked me.  Would have been happy to. (waves magic wand)  You're now a rollbacker, too.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:05, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool, I never did because me and Twinkle had been such great friends. Thanks.--NortyNort (talk) 21:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Now you can be unfaithful to her!--Wehwalt (talk) 21:49, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Presidency of Barack Obama page
You seem to be engaged in an edit war at Presidency of Barack Obama. Please use the talk page rather than simply reverting edits, and keep in mind that the burden is on editors who wish to add disputed content and/or change the status quo of the article. As you may be aware, there is reasonable concern that the editor who is proposing these edits is a sockpuppet of a banned user, and to some extent these edits have been discussed and rejected in the past. Also, in case you don't know the article in question is subject to article probation as well - see the talk page header. Overall, as I will comment on the article talk page, it is better to restore the article to its stable version while awaiting any consensus to change. Thanks, - Wikidemon (talk) 09:19, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems that way. I hope its clear I have been trying to reach a consensus. I have been using the talk page and initially opened a discussion before expanding the NASA paragraph. Three editors had reverted edits today. One of them, an IP did it repeatedly. Another, Newross, had been reverting edits under discussion. I also understand the suspected sockpuppet along with his few contribs but don't understand why that would constitute a removal of those specific edits. The users that were reverting used POV and vandalism as an excuse which I think is absurd (without also using the discussion page). Is it Wiki policy to revert all suspected sock-puppet edits? I see the page has become unstable and won't edit further but I wish the other users involved would discuss as well.--NortyNort (talk) 09:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response. Well, trolls stir up needless drama, that's their purpose.  If that editor is who I think it is, I'm actually rather fond of him, he's good-natured and friendly actually.  That he finds humor in the contrarian point that Obama (and Wikipedia) are being non-transparent about transparency is typical of his taste for poignant irony.  I for one wouldn't oppose his proposals with a vengeance just because he made them. - Wikidemon (talk) 23:55, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to start drama, didn't mean to. I just saw the edit and thought the numbers (not in his wording) were appropriate for inclusion. I usually try to avoid politically-charged articles because of edit wars. I try to stick mainly to infrastructure articles and don't patrol Obama's articles looking for bias and to yell at other editors. I have read some of Bush's and thought they were done well. I think there is an overreaction to perceived bias on some of these articles which seems inevitable.--NortyNort (talk) 09:41, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Understood - I wasn't saying you were trolling btw, but rather that the possible sockpuppet was. I think he may be fooling around, and what I meant to say is that it's mostly harmless.  Best, - Wikidemon (talk) 13:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Hope Mills Dam
I nominated Hope Mills Dam for the main page DYK section here. Best of luck and thanks for expanding the article. Dincher (talk) 14:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I was thinking of doing the same tomorrow. I had made a redirect the other day but created it today. Sad but interesting story. You wouldn't happen to take photos often?--NortyNort (talk) 14:31, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I have pictures of the empty lake on my flickr page. The flickr user name is gerrydincher. You can also get there by following links on the current picture. Dincher (talk) 15:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I added some to the dam and lake articles. They really add to the article and are great to have.--NortyNort (talk) 03:44, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I loaded the originals of the same pics. I think this is a better way to do it. At least that's what I've been told. I only messed with the pics for the infobox and the nominated DYK pic. Thanks again. Dincher (talk) 22:22, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * They look much better, so I guess it is the better way. They are clearer. Thanks --NortyNort (talk) 08:28, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Nominated Laurel Run Dam for DYK
Hi. I've nominated Laurel Run Dam, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. — MC10 ( T • C • GB •L)  04:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot. The hook looks good. I added an ALT 2 after updating the article a little bit in order to show how much water and how it was in the middle of the night. That's freaky, I'm never living below a dam.--NortyNort (talk) 07:00, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Rogue Trooper?
Haha, no... That was my first time reading about that. My user name is part of a nickname.--NortyNort (talk) 05:58, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you follow the Rogue Trooper fictional scenario?, as your name seems to imply. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

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DYK nom
Hi. I've posted an answer to your comment on the Southeast Asian Youth Conference nom at T:TDYK. --Soman (talk) 05:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I misread the first portion, it is fine. Sorry for the trouble. I do think that is a really interesting article. --NortyNort (talk) 05:12, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm glad you liked it! --Soman (talk) 05:13, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Boreelianus
I was thinking the article should be expanded in prose (DYKTN). Several of my DYK expanded articles were written in that way and they were promoted? I do not understand. I agreed that the hook was not correct, perhaps ... that according to Scrivener. Scrivener's opinion was cited by several authors (e.g. Robert Waltz in 2002). Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 06:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does meet prose x5, my apologies. I was confused by the History section though and even tried to edit it a little bit. It was hard to understand where the codex was, who had it and how it got in whatever condition. There were sentence fragments in there as well. The new ALT you have looks good, was Scrivener referring to a New Testament manuscript or just manuscripts in general?...that may make it more interesting.--NortyNort (talk) 07:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

References in lists
Hello NortyNort. Just for your reference, for a list to be featured, it should be referenced even if refs are included in the linked article. I came across that when I tried featuring the List of conventional hydroelectric power stations article. Thought of letting you know after this edit. Kind regards. Rehman(+) 13:59, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I was just going off how worked the pumped-storage list. I can add them in. I found a great source for the Columbia River dams. There are a bunch of others like the Volga Hydroelectric Station that I suspect are as well. Are you planning on submitting another candidate for featured list?--NortyNort (talk) 14:14, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I guess so, the page has a lot more work to do before a third nomination. I guess we could give it another try :) Rehman(+) 14:44, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Forest of Galtres
Thank you for fixing my glitch at Forest of Galtres. I couldn't find the problem for the life of me.--Wetman (talk) 15:04, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, it was just one sneaky little ">" messing the whole process up. Interesting article.--NortyNort (talk) 03:41, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Salmon Creek Dam
Hi! I am sure you will like the imgs I added just now. A good samaritan agreed to release the imgs from flickr. Pl let me know if you want me to write on any other dam. -- N.V.V. Char     Talk. 03:43, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea, awesome deal, they are nice! Dams are some of the coolest looking structures around. The dams I have really been looking for better free pictures of is the Smith Mountain Dam, Don Pedro Dam (both on Flickr w/ copyrights) and the La Grange Dam with a copyrighted pic here. Additionally, there are a bunch in China like the Xiaowan Dam (here (U/C), Xiluodu Dam, Jinping 1 Dam (some copyrighted here) and Shuibuya Dam. I am not sure how many dams are missing in India. Thanks for the help.--NortyNort (talk) 03:58, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Hope Mills Dam
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 06:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Baynard's Castle
Sorry, I thought I'd cleared it up at TDYK - could you clarify what the problem is? Le Deluge (talk) 10:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, it is verified now. That 5x expansion was a little tricky to confirm but I figured out what happened.--NortyNort (talk) 10:57, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: DYK for Pierino Gelmini
Thanks for looking at my DYK nom, Norty. I was, rather unfortunately, out on business and couldn't get back earlier to that, but your alt. for it is really excellent. Hook, length, date, and sources were all verified just the other day. ;-) Zloyvolsheb (talk) 12:30, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi
I added the relevant sources.  Fridae'§Doom &#124;  Spare your time?  10:56, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's good to go, verified a lil' while ago.--NortyNort (talk) 11:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sadd-el-Kafara Dam
Hello! Your submission of Sadd-el-Kafara Dam at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:52, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Laurel Run Dam
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons
Hello NortyNort. Was wondering if you managed to fix your Commons account? I realize that you have a good touch in maintenance tasks, so just want to let you know that you are more than welcome to help out at Commons. I have recently come across a big obstacle; Category:Hydroelectricity (recently renamed from Cat:Hydroelectric power). Which nearly everything and anything associated with it needs complete cleanup, and renaming of subcats itself. I am looking for someone related to the topic at Commons to discuss everything from what to do and how to start. Hope to see you there. Cheers. Rehman(+) 13:13, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Yea, I actually just uploaded a bunch of images of Bailey's Dam into there. I saw that category and it is a mess like some of the others there. A picture of a gate and some person? Wow. I am working on the article for Bailey's Dam now and can help out tomorrow. Is there an open discussion at the Commons now?


 * Not yet, planning on starting a discussion on a mass rearrangement/renaming at Category talk:Hydroelectricity. Would probably post it by an hour or so, or probably tomorrow. May I ask your time zone? Rehman(+) 14:49, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I am UTC + 9 now. It is actually tomorrow now. Need to get to bed soon. --NortyNort (Holla) 15:00, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh :). I'm in UTC+05:30 for your info. Goodnight then. Will do the category cleanups by about tomorrow. Btw, excellent work on Bailey's Dam. Rehman(+) 15:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'll be around. Thanks, I think the proposed named would better serve that article now. Good catch on the proposal.--NortyNort (Holla) 16:55, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you. See you around. Rehman(+) 23:47, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


 * FYI, I have started the discussion at Commons. If you know anyone that would be interested in this discussion, please do invite, we need all the heads possible. Best. Rehman(+) 07:11, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, I looked at the organized proposal and provided comments. I invited User:Beagel who is an energy category guru.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:15, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you . Rehman(+) 08:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Army or Navy?
Great work on Bailey's Dam Site. I noticed in your DYK nom you wrote "the Union Army's Mississippi River Squadron during the Civil War". I took the liberty of linking to American Civil War, but according to the MRS article, it was a Union Navy squadron by 1864. I see you changed it to Army so I didn't want to mess with it without checking, in case you know something I don't. Station1 (talk) 22:49, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Federal Detention Center, Miami
KimChee, I made some comments on your DYK. Both hooks are awesome, maybe someone else has an opinion. There is more though, check it out.--NortyNort (talk) 12:09, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the vote of support. I prepared the alternate hook (which was selected) because I knew the famous barefoot inmate was scheduled to be transferred anyway. Ironically, I started a new article about the other facility he ended up at for another try and found yet another hook that might work out better. KimChee (talk) 05:45, 25 July 2010 (UTC).


 * This was predictable, but funny. The secondary link underwire bra got more hits than Federal Detention Center, Miami, the primary link of the hook. KimChee (talk) 04:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Yuma Project
The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

LA Daily News
I submitted an alternative hook (I think it will do better) for Los Angeles Daily News (historic). If you get a chance, could you verify it? Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:00, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It looks great and 'hookier' but was "Pink lady" actually printed in the paper? Seems a little unclear in the article. --NortyNort (Holla) 22:31, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did will clarify that.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Done now.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:40, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool, the hook is 205 characters, I'm trying to find a way to cut it down a little.--NortyNort (Holla) 23:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Strike "Republican" before "Richard Nixon"?--Wehwalt (talk) 23:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Better yet, I've abbreviated "Los Angeles".--Wehwalt (talk) 23:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, looks good. Good idea, there I was moving words around and using synonyms. So simple. --NortyNort (Holla) 23:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Arch dam
The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Careless edit
Hi, I just want to let you know that I had to undo the damage that one of your edits left behind. Your edit summary didn't mention the removal of the template U.S. Congressional opposition to war, so I'm assuming that it was unintentional. All the same, that very important template was missing from the article for 6 months (frankly, I'm appalled that nobody else noticed it before now). I hope you'll be a little more careful in the future. Cgingold (talk) 01:51, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jawa Dam
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 18:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Delhi Dam DYK
Hi NortyNort, I recently reviewed the Delhi Dam entry at Template talk:Did you know, don't worry, there's no problems with the nomination ;) I'm just dropping by to tell you that I changed your nomination to a creation/expansion given your substantial contributions to the article. That seems fair, hope you don't mind. Cheers from a fellow DYK:er (although I'm still pretty new at it ;)), jonkerz♠ 00:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Obama talk talk
I've been bold. I hope you don't mind. (If you do mind, then please take up the matter on my own user talk page, rather than on that talk page.) -- Hoary (talk) 04:11, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't mind at all, good move.--NortyNort (Holla) 06:46, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- Hoary (talk) 06:55, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Dams, and the U.S. Army Engineers
I see you're a dams expert. Thanks for all your hard work. I had a question re the U.S. Army Engineers. Does the United States Army Corps of Engineers, who do the civil works and dams etc, include the combat engineer brigades, battalions, companies etc? Or are they a separate corps? Buckshot06 (talk) 02:25, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. There are some direct subordinate units but the USACE is mainly a federal agency conisting of a vast civilian majority. They are a weird beast and mainly operate out of the U.S. but do help overseas. --NortyNort (Holla) 02:36, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK Neunggasa nomination
Neunggasa is located in a very rural area that is not close to any other readily recognizable geographical landmark or urban center. Not sure what more I might be able to do to address your concerns. I have reworded the hook to the best of my ability to comply with what ever standards may be in effect here for DYK hooks. My first attempt at nominating an article for DTK promotion. Thank you for your interest and feedback on my efforts. Steve46814 (talk) 05:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Steve, that sounds interesting but it isn't represented in the hook. I have no idea what the province is like but you might. In general, hooks need to grab a sometimes layman reader into clicking on the link to your article(s). I provided an alternate hook in your entry. Let me know what you think. I think its good and early congrats on your first DYK. --NortyNort (Holla) 08:55, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that your hook is great, although the Japanese Invasion in 1592 still remains a source of controversy between the two counties to this day, it is an integral part of the history of the temple. But because it remains a source of controversy, I would be inclined to avoid using it in the hook for that reason alone. May be much less significant than I think.  I do see how it punches up the hook though.  As for mentioning the province (county) where the temple is found, I was kind of following the somewhat de facto format that I see as a lead-in in many article about temples and related subjects.  Other than emphasizing that the temple location is in a southern rural area, the province has no bearing on the content of the article.  I have had a couple of articles I created promoted to DYK, nominated by another editor, but this is my first attempt at a nomination myself. Learning.  Thank you very much for your interest, suggestions and advice.Steve46814 (talk) 18:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, well the hook is in the Queue prep area now. I tweaked it a little bit so it doesn't seem to implicate anyone. The article states it was destroyed during the invasion, so the hook reflected that. The reference stated it was destroyed in a fire in 1592. I think it looks good and is relevant to the article and sources now. --NortyNort (Holla) 07:51, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Sadd-el-Kafara Dam
The DYK project (nominate) 06:06, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bailey's Dam
The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK
 Imzadi  1979   →   01:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Delhi Dam
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 06:04, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Addition of Economy of (country) categories
Hi NortyNort! I usually like being politely informed of it when I've made some mistake, and I imagine the same might be true of you, as well? Relying on that faith, then, I'd like to let you know that I saw, some days ago, that another editor had reverted something like 50 of your edits. You had gone through articles named "Agriculture in " and tagged each article with the category "Economy of ". The other editor reverted those edits, I took exception to his reversions, and he then explained his rationale. He wrote,

"'... the agriculture by country categories are included in economy by country. To include the actual agriculture article in a countries economy category is redundant...'"

I understood him to mean that, for example, the article Agriculture in Israel is included in the Category:Agriculture in Israel, and that this category is itself included in the Category:Economy of Israel. This arrangement of categorization thus seems to make it unnecessary to include the agriculture article itself in the national economy category. His explanation made sense to me - although I'll be the first to admit I have little experience working with categories - and I thought you might like to know of this, and perhaps to look back over your August 3rd country-agriculture edits, as at least some of them (e.g Agriculture in Syria) appear to have been overlooked by the other editor's reversions. More generally, if this also makes sense to you, perhaps it'd be good practice, before adding a category tag to an article, to check whether any of the article's existing categories is included in the category you're considering adding?

On a more cheerful note, I observe from your talk page that you have a strong interest in dams. A few weeks ago, just to have something interesting to read over lunch, I picked up a copy of The Organic Machine: The Remaking of the Columbia River, by Richard White, from a local bookstall, for the grand sum of fifty cents. As you may know, the Columbia River has a total of 12 dams along its length (including, of course, the Grand Coulee dam) and this book is largely about those dams. I had no particular interest in dams, really; I'm just something of an omnivore in my reading, and the book was cheap. But it turned out to be fascinating reading! It's a short book, just over 100 pages, but I liked the "systems" approach it brought to the subject, its treatment of the river as a dynamic ecosystem or "organic machine", to use the author's phrase. I suppose you've seen the book? If not, I think it's one you might enjoy very much. Best regards, –  OhioStandard  (talk) 10:20, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

WP:Dams
Hi NortyNort, Thanks for the invite. I got into dams because of my interest in Syria and Iraq (didn't know much about dams before I started editing them for Wikipedia). As there aren't that many dams left over in those countries that I can write something about (or more importantly, about which something can be found on the internet; I know a few more Iraqi dams/barrages by name, but simply nothing has been written about them in western languages), I am not sure whether I will continue writing about dams. On the other hand, they turned out to be much more interesting than I thought (especially the political stuff), so I could maybe continue with Iran. And there are some archaeological dams/weirs in Syria that haven't been covered yet. Anyway, I'll think about it! -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 00:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, well if you can't commit that's cool. Controversial dams will be a focus of the project and just about every dam in the Tigris Euphrates basin has controversy.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:28, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for James Milson (1785-1872)
Thanks for verifying James Milson (1785-1872).AWHS (talk) 09:49, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, nice job on the article start. --NortyNort (Holla) 11:45, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for San Vicente Dam
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 18:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Talkback on Template talk:Did you know

 * Hi NortyNort, I've addressed all the issues. Do take a look at the nominations page again. I might have missed out a thing or two due to personal oversight, thanks a lot for the alerts. Maybe being more careful will do the job. Regards, A NG C HENRUI Talk ♨  10:07, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, tell me they're good to go now. I sincerely hope there's nothing else that is wrong with the nominations. Best, A NG C HENRUI Talk♨ 12:22, 13 August 2010 (UTC)