User talk:NotLiable

Arthur Farnsworth
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia.

Regarding your edits and commentary for the above-referenced article: To put it bluntly, nobody cares whether you "give a rat's rear" about what another editor here believes a correct legal term is. Please tone down the rhetoric.

The correct legal term is tax protester, and that's what's going to be used in the article. You are not the first person to object to the use of the term in Wikipedia, and you may not be the last.

Further, if you are implying (by stating that you "didn't protest anything", as you stated in your edit summary) that you are actually Arthur Farnsworth (the person who is the subject of this article), then you may have a conflict of interest in editing this article.

I have been studying tax protesters for over sixteen years. The term "tax honesty movement" is a euphemism that was concocted years ago by none other than -- you guessed it -- tax protesters. Its mis-use has already been addressed by the editors here at Wikipedia.

No, there is nothing in the article that is not factual.

Regarding your comment about "bias," the use of a term with negative connotations like "tax protester" does not violate the Wikipedia rule on Neutral Point of View (NPOV). Further, Wikipedia has many articles that actually have the term in the title of the article.

Please review Wikipedia policies and guidelines -- particularly Verifiability, Neutral Point of View, and No Original Research. Famspear (talk) 22:02, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * By the way, the United States Court of Appeals, in the Farnsworth case, specifically referred to Farnsworth's tax protester argument:


 * Contrary to his [Farnsworth's] contentions, there is no question that 18 U.S.C. § 3231, in establishing jurisdiction over “all offenses against the laws of the United States,” encompasses the federal tax statutes, United States v. Isenhower, 754 F.2d 489, 490 (3d Cir. 1985), and specifically the crime of attempted tax evasion under 26 U.S.C. § 7201, United States v. Gwinnett, 483 F.3d 200, 201 (3d Cir. 2007). Moreover, we reject Farnsworth’s resort to the “‘hackneyed tax protester refrain’” that federal courts lack criminal jurisdiction outside of federal territories. E.g., United States v. Chisum, 502 F.3d 1237, 1243 (10th Cir. 2007) (quoting United States v. Collins, 920 F.2d 619, 629 (10th Cir. 1990)).


 * --from Opinion of the Court, Dec. 11, 2008, page 4, case no. 07-2200, United States v. Arthur L. Farnsworth, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. On December 9, 2006, the Associated Press, as published in the Washington Post, also referred to Farnsworth as a "tax protester." In Wikipedia, we go with what reliable, previously published third party sources say. The Court itself, the Associated Press, and the Washington Post are reliable sources for purposes of Wikipedia. Famspear (talk) 00:49, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Here's a thread on Arthur Farnsworth over at Quatloos, in case you're interested:

http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&p=185481#p185481

Yours, Famspear (talk) 01:02, 16 March 2015 (UTC)