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Musician entomologists
Would Georg Friedrich Treitschke be the man who worked with Ferdinand Ochsenheimer. I have gone ahead and marked him as a lepidopterist from whatever I could find on the net, but precious little available there. The monsoon ends soon, time to go out and see the rich life in the forests... cheers Shyamal 02:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Musician, actor, lepidopterist. What a wonderful combination. Good to see you back ! Shyamal 08:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Archived
Hope you don't mind. I have archived the old talk pages. Shyamal 04:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

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Moving images
The only easy way to copy images from one wikipedia to the commons is to manually copy it from the German wikipedia to Hard-disk and hard-disk to commons and retain the permission statement as given. This is would be be fine in all cases except those marked as copyrighted fair-use images. Let me know the image in question and I could try to help as well. Shyamal 09:10, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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Science history project
Dear Robert, you should add yourself here. Cheers. Shyamal 04:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Curtis Sabrosky
Entry may be worth adding. Have been reading some biographical notes on Willi Hennig as well as Ernst Mayr and hope to add a few bits on them soon. Shyamal 08:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Get Well soon!
Hi Notafly,

I read on Shyamal's talk page that you had broken an arm. On behalf of all Wikipedians working on Indian butterflies, and who have benefited from your valued contributions, I wish you a speedy and uneventful recovery. Dont bother to reply this post; rest your arm and hope to see you around sooner rather than later. Notabutterfly a.k.a. AshLin 15:26, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Robert, Wishing you a speedy recovery likewise. Shyamal 11:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Robert, Can you get in touch with work ASAP please? NOT SPAM - Fiona 26/11/07
 * Hi Robert, How are you now? PH has my address, if you want it.--Osborne (talk) 18:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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Meigen
Dear Robert, the book has descriptions in Latin and German (Gothic), so the OCR program (which converts images of text to editable text) runs into trouble. The link you gave works fine - but it may not be accessible in certain places where the security settings disallow it. Shyamal 09:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Photo link
Interesting link, but copyright status, author, dates are not available.Shyamal 04:26, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

A nice series on the history of natural history
Frank Egerton - A History of the Ecological Sciences and here is an entertaining piece John W. Brown. 2001. Presidential address, 2000: Nomenclatural nonsense--flying in the face of a farcical code. Journal of the Lepidopterists' Society 55:1 - 7 PDF Cheers Shyamal 16:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Links to NHM
You have just added links to this in several articles about entomologists. I fail to see the relevance of that link to the articles. This looks to me like spam, and I usually just revert such questionable links and move on. I suggest that you adjust the links to point to a page in the database that makes clear the connection to each entomologist. -- Donald Albury 21:41, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Sandbox
Here is the sandbox User_talk:Notafly/Sandbox to make experiments/drafts. Nice pictures of Rome, I am sure the warm weather will do good for a speedy recovery. Shyamal (talk) 11:13, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

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Friedrich F. Tippmann
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 * Hi Robert, I expanded the article, added publications, genus named after him and removed the proposed deletion note. Wish you a great holiday season. Cheers Shyamal (talk) 09:56, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

New year wishes
Dear Robert, Here is wishing you a great new year ahead ! I sent a couple of emails, but I presume you are still working from home. Cheers. Shyamal (talk) 09:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice to hear about the monograph on Irish Ichneumonidae. Let me know when you decide on that India trip. Interestingly User:Jimfbleak just created an article on John Kinnis MD while working on the Blackbird article and it turns out he was a good friend of Robert Templeton! Shyamal (talk) 09:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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Sandbox
Dear Robert, no trouble, hope it works fine now. Shyamal (talk) 03:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Robert

Can you contact me please at work. Brian NesonLimnoporus (talk) 11:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Limnoporus

Evans Obits
Dear Robert, do you have copies of any of the W. H. Evans obituaries ? Shyamal (talk) 11:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Simon Wilkin and John Burrel
Hi, Notafly! Thanks for the message. Unfortunately, being Norfolk rather than Suffolk, places these two gents beyond the scope of most of my ready-to-hand crib sources, and I don't recognise either of them as having been involved in Ipswich Museum affairs, which is where I might have known them from. Are they in Kirby's biography (which I haven't got)? At present the best I can do is put them on a mental list of folk to watch out for and then react when they pop up.... Sorry I can't do much better, but if I can think of whom to ask I will send an inquiry over to Norwich Mus. Best wishes, Eebahgum (talk) 17:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

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Calvet
Actually cabinet of curiosities is an article I edit too - I've added the Calvet to the "museums started as ..." bit. Sorry - I don't follow the Vitrelli point? Johnbod (talk) 21:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Translations
I. (O.M.) heard of your arm some where some time ago. Get well soon. But I have forgotten - how do I see translations? Prb in the tutorials somewhere! Best wishes.Osborne (talk) 21:48, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Brauer
Does not look like we have the limnologist-entomologist-zoologist August Bernhard Brauer - not as famous as the dipterist Friedrich Moritz Brauer. Fair number of his works scanned on the Biodiversity Heritage Library - http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/creator/1320 and http://www.archive.org/details/diessswasserfa05brau. Bumped into him as I was researching this beautiful image of a Dobsonfly - http://www.indianaturewatch.net/displayimage.php?id=41248 - never seen one taken from India. All the butterflies this far uploaded with old descriptions where possible. Shyamal (talk) 04:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Taxon authorities
Thanks—GRM (talk) 17:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Martius
Thanks Robert. Martius is my favourite botanist. Great work! &mdash;Moondyne click! 12:58, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That Gallica link is challenging: There were various bits in French, Latin and German. But no English. :) Cheers. &mdash;Moondyne click! 07:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

H. H. Karny
Unable to find anything about this author of Schizodactylidae, a nice photo here. Shyamal (talk) 15:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

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Cicadas
Any idea of the genus of these common Indian cicadas Tibicen ? Shyamal (talk) 11:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Sir Harry Christopher Tytler
There is a bit here, nothing on him? A knight no less. Maybe there is something in the Oxford DNB, no access for me unfortunately. 
 * "Major General Sir H. C. Tytler (1867-1939) was born in Scotland. Tytler joined the army in 1886, serving in India, Europe, East Africa, Afghanistan and Burma before retiring in 1928."

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Jan van der Hoeven
Hello Notafly, i added something to Jan van der Hoeven. Most is from Google Books, i hope you like it. Please improve my English, and be aware of my limited knowledge of early 19th century zoologists. Taksen (talk) 19:54, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Insect indicators...`
We really appreciate your contributions to our article. Thank you--Angelar.steinhauer (talk) 18:23, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

K. Kluk
Congratulations, I would never have thought someone would beat me into creating that article. I linked the proper genera I found to it. Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 14:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Anopheles
Hi. I have bee working on the Plasmodium pages. My knowledge of mosquitoes isnt as complete as I would like it to be. If you can contribute here or know someone that can I would be most grateful. DrMicro. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.43.121.108 (talk) 14:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes of course. Short accounts of the mosquitoes for a start.I'll fix a couple soon and wait for your response.Robert (Nash F.R.E.S.) Notafly (talk) 08:51, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for your message
I have fine memories of Ireland. The French portal is indeed quite well done. Do you use the French National Library site? It was a wealth of early entomology volumes in pdf for rapid downloading. Kirby, for example, is on tap with the French and not on any UK site. I was also able to get the first copy of the 13th edition of Syst. Nat. ever to reach Brazil (and this is the volume that described many spp. from NW Brazil). I will be doing some Brazilian entomologist bios. Perhaps the links could find a place on your List of Entomologists. Many thanks for your kind message.--Wloveral (talk) 17:40, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Re Ornithoptera croesus
Hi Robert,

Thanks a lot for your message. I really loved the O. croesus - very aptly named and that Wallace's description too. I have recently got back online and am now a curator of a military archive. So I'll probably get back to you for advice :-). Thanks once again. Will be getting back to butterflies, once my backlog of work reduces. AshLin (talk) 08:35, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks again. The link was useful. It will help me to design a database structure for storing data about the items in the archive. Will get back later with some specific queries if faced. AshLin (talk) 06:27, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiCookie
Just stopping by with wikicookies for those editors who started new articles today. --Rosiestep (talk) 06:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Doritites bosniackii
Up & running; let me know if you have any further problems. -- Rodhull andemu  10:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thaites
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Photographs
Dear Robert, here are some pictures from the Himalayas that have gone into wp. More on the way. Shyamal (talk) 04:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Added some more pictures - maybe Picture-winged fly can get a reasonable image in Image:UlididaeMunsiyari.jpg Shyamal (talk) 04:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, none of the landscapes are Parnassius country, at least not in summer. I was below 3000m and I think the alpine zone starts at 4500m. But right now the alpine zone is overrun by the locals as they hunt for caterpillar gold - Vegetable caterpillar - Cordyceps - A kilogram fetches nearly INR 400,000 - a little below USD 10,000. Strange situations much like what the Gold rushes must have been ! Shyamal (talk) 12:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Entomologist stubs
I see you've added a wonderful number of entomologists. In several of them you've added a stub banner which has a nice picture but doesn't enable them to show up in categories as stub articles. Do you have any objections to replacing your stub banner with the standard stub template for entomologists? (I plan to go through adding categories for birth & deathyear, and could make the change then) Dsp13 (talk) 12:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * birth & death years added! Dsp13 (talk) 00:31, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Collectors
Wonder if you have been watching this issue http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080702/full/454014a.html Quite a complicated legal matter, but hopefully this may lead to improvements in the mostly badly worded biodiversity act of the Indian government. From a cloudy and windy Oslo. Shyamal (talk) 14:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oslo has a lot of beautiful wilderness areas. The sun has just come out and hopefully will stay, lots of blooms, flies, hymenoptera. Hope to join the local birders this weekend to Østensjøvannet, which incidentally is said to have a rare hoverfly Erythrogona sp. (?) according to http://www.ostensjovannet.no/besok/english-webcopy.pdf ! Btw, would it be possible to get a bit closer on this Tephritoid [[Image:UlididaeMunsiyari.jpg|thumb]], so that it can be used in some article. I came across some recent work which suggests that group is still in taxonomic flux. Cheers. Shyamal (talk) 11:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Bug
Wonder if you have seen this ! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7506355.stm, linked out of Reference_desk/Science? Wet, cloudy weather outside. Shyamal (talk) 15:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

WP is complaining about a photo of Nessaea that I uploaded.
Hello again. Could you make legal my upload of a photo of Nessaea obrina that I uploaded. The file is called Nessaea_obrina_Jari.JPG, and I used this to illustrate the rich green on the hindwing verso on the Nessaea page. What should be done to remove robotic doubts. The photo was taken by Dr. Jos Barlow, of Lancaster University, who released the image to public domain. Many thanks for your help. By the way, did you see the price of Pamela Gilbert's new edition of her Entomological sources book: 120 euros.--Wloveral (talk) 01:12, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Unidentified butterflies
These unidentified (and unlabelled) butterflies are from the Oslo natural history museum.

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status and advice
As reviewing administrator, I of course removed the speedy tag. For one thing, he was an Italian Senator, and therefore unquestionably notable. What you now need to do is actually insert the references, and the proper link to the Italian WP. And rewrite sufficiently to make his political career clear. If he published books, list them in proper bibliographic format also. DGG (talk) 19:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your communications - glad to keep in contact Osborne 16:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC) Have you seen http://www.eol.org ? - you will find this interesting.Osborne 10:18, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

List of butterflies of Ireland
Hello, Notafly.

I have managed to become embroiled in a discussion about the collation and value of fauna lists (especially the butterfly one) by geographic entity or nation. Logic dictates to me that the default setting would be political nations and other entities. However, that is not always logical in terms of zoogeography. Great Britain and Ireland are a case in point. If we hold fast to the source material, we would have one list of Butterflies of Great Britain and Ireland; however, you have established the list of Irish butterflies as a complement to the old list of British butterflies. The latter has now been renamed as "...of Great Britain".

Please, what was your intention with the List of butterflies of Ireland—geographical (i.e. Ireland the island) or political (i.e. Republic of Ireland)?

Many thanks—GRM (talk) 16:08, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback, most enlightening. I'll (eventually) fix GB list accordingly (i.e. delete Real's Wood White), so do you chaps handle all fauna on an Island/Ireland-wide basis (which would make my stance against the renaming of the lists totally invalid)?—GRM (talk) 11:23, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Image problems
Hi Robert, Could just be a passing glitch in the mediawiki servers. Here's a butterfly from a trip on last Sunday. Shyamal (talk) 08:45, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Image Request
Hi Robert, thanks for the reguest. Do you have any more details regarding this butterfly? What is its name? What exactly do you whant the image to convay, is it a diagram with labels etc? Cheers, Steve Steveoc 86 (talk) 11:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello Again. Hows this? How does it show up on your monitor? is it too dark or too light? Does anything need correcting? Steveoc 86 (talk) 20:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've uploaded it to the commons [[Image:SYRMATIA steveoc86.jpg|thumb]]. Feel free to add a description, you know more about these things than I do. If any more images of Syrmatia come to light the image can be altered if nessary. I might be able to do more but depends on the 'plan' and if I have time. ;) cheers! Steveoc 86 (talk) 21:47, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Ecology of Commanster
Will look again at this - but no algae! - I think. Try www.algaebase.org! 82.29.245.44 (talk) 08:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC) Osborne 08:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Irish non-marine mollusca
Hi Robert/Notafly, Hi excellent entomologist person! Invertebrates Rule! Thanks for noticing the List of non-marine molluscs of Ireland. I am still working on that article, it's a little bit in rough shape still. Actually back in 1972 I helped map the non-marine mollusks of a fairly large part of Ireland, I very much enjoyed that visit. To have some actual Irish illustrations would be very nice, but if you just want some photos of the species with the article, there are quite a few pics available already that can be used to illustrate it, that is, if you would like to put them in. It might take me quite a while to get round to doing that. If you are interested, take a look at what Snek used in the article: List of non-marine molluscs of the Czech Republic, plus, any species link on the list that is blue might be worth checking to see if there is a photo you can copy if you want to. In any case, if you have any suggestions or contributions on any aspect of this article, I would be very grateful! Very best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 15:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Robert, Today I added lots of images to the Irish list. I hope you like the way it looks. Invertzoo (talk) 21:37, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi again Robert, Glad you like the way the images look in the article. By the way I am not a professional malacologist, more of a keen amateur. Here in NYC, the AMNH malacology section has been shut down for nearly 3 years, so I have no one there to ask about things. So, Major E.R. Sheppard named Pisidium henslowanum in 1823 did he? That is long enough ago to make records a bit sketchy. I see he is not listed in "2,400 years of Malacology" at, in that reference there is only one Sheppard listed, a Philip Macdonald Sheppard. Do you think maybe the Royal Academy would have a little info on E.R. Sheppard? Or the FLS? Or the Linnean Society, who published his original descriptions? If I can perhaps manage to get in contact with Michael Kerney in London, I can ask if he knows anything about him. Best wishes to you, Invertzoo (talk) 14:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Ochthera
Hi Robert, started the stub, uploaded the two photographs and also added some automatic archival code for this talk page so that it does not get too long. Shyamal (talk) 10:02, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

More images !
Lots of pictures out here (many from old and copyright free sources) http://www.sil.si.edu/imagegalaxy/imageGalaxy_collResult.cfm?term=Butterflies%20and%20Moths Shyamal (talk) 06:41, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Delusional parasitosis
Hello Notafly. You have chanced to add new information to an article that has been the subject of some past disputes, to the point where it is closely monitored. (The topic is related to Morgellons, which caused a great hoo-ha). WP:MEDRS calls for any medical information to be sourced. If you can locate a published source in a peer-reviewed journal, your info would be welcome there. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:10, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Boris Schwanwitz
Hi, I added some material on Boris Schwanwitz. Are there any sources in English available? My additions are based on some Russian articles and his textbook in Entomology. Regards, Alexei Kouprianov (talk) 11:34, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

New book in hand
All thanks to this new book I got - Rao, BR Subba (1998) History of entomology in India. Institution of Agricultural Technologists, Bangalore. Not very widely known but an interesting compilation thanks to that author's access to the NHM archives. Found material in it to remove a red link for Harry Christopher Tytler. Interestingly this book completely misses C F C Beeson, a pioneer of forest entomology in India and also seems to have overlooked A D Imms work in India. Shyamal (talk) 08:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Also of interest may be a Frank Hannington (?-1919), son of John Child Hannington judge and resident of Madras who lived in Travancore. He collected butterflies from Kumaon and sent collectors into the Chumbi valley when he was postmaster general of Bengal. Is he is the one in Parnassius hannyngtoni ? Shyamal (talk) 09:00, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Stub created for Hannington. Shyamal (talk) 13:58, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I just rechecked some other sources - I think he should be correctly spelt Hannyngton- I am adding additional sources. Shyamal (talk) 14:21, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Found the obituary online and he is the man in that Parnassius ! http://www.archive.org/stream/journalofbombayn26bomb/journalofbombayn26bomb_djvu.txt Here is the full original text - I am mystified by this "great Jepper" bit... "F. HANNYNGTON, I.C.S. Frank Hannyngton was the youngest son of the late Mr. John Child Hannyngton, a Madras Civilian, who for a long time was Judge of Salem and spent the last 15 years of his service as Resident in Travancore. He was well known as " Curly" to the oarsmen of Trinity College, Dublin, where he became Captain of the boats. From Dublin he went to Wren's to prepare for the I. C. S. examination, which he passed in 1897, returning subsequently to Trinity College for his year's probation. At Wren's and in later life he was known as the "Bishop ". Like many Irishmen he was a great Jepper and one of his accomplishments was to kick a top hat held at arm's length over the head. Hannyngton started his service in India on January 30th, 1899, as Asst. Collector and Magistrate, South Arcot. During the early part of his career he served at Tinnevelly, Malabar, Madras and Ootacamund putting in some time as Private Secretary to H. E. the Governor. In 1906 he went into the Postal Department and was successively Postmaster-General of the Punjab, the United Provinces and Bengal. In 1912 he reverted to the Madras Government being put on special duty in Madras and in the same year he was appointed Commissioner of Coorg which post he held up till the end of 1918 when he was transferred to Bellary. In March he went on leave and on his way home died in Bombay early in April 1919. Hannyngton was always deeply interested m Natural History and in 1897, when at Naini Tal, took up butterfly collecting, to which pursuit he devoted most of his spare time. He made a very fine collection of the butterflies of Kumaun regarding which he published a paper in the Journal (XX. p. 131 & 871) : in this he described a new Zephyrus under the name of triloka, which afterwards proved to be a form of Zephyrus syla. Later he published notes on the life history of Vanessa indica and caschmirensis and of Papilio ravana, also notes on the distribution of Lethe kansa and Euthalia patala. While P. M. G. of Bengal, he sent collectors up the Chumbi valley and secured a new Parnassius, which Mr. Avinoff has named hannyngtoni (T. E. S. 1915, p. 351). In Coorg he again made a most complete collection of the local butterflies and published a note on them in the Journal (XXIV. p. 578). Amongst the butterflies he captured in Coorg were a most interesting series of Mycalesis, which have not yet been worked out. Hannyngton's death was a blow to all his friends ; he was " one of the very best." He joined the Society in 1908 and became a member of the Committee in 1913. He had great hopes of succeeding to his father's job of Resident in Travancore and working out the butterflies in that province, which are not as well known as they should be. �He married in 1905, Maisie, daughter of Col. Forbes."

Shyamal (talk) 14:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject History of Science newsletter : Issue V - January 2009
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NHM
Rather late in wishing you a great 2009. Would you know anyone at the NHM who might have the time or motivation to find an old 2002 calendar that they published commemorating Margaret Bushby Lascelles Cockburn. An pioneering woman naturalist in India, and a biographical note was included in that diary apparently. Shyamal (talk) 12:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for this. Here is an unidentified Agrias . Callicore cynosura? Shyamal (talk) 02:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Copyright concerns, Mycetophilidae
Hi. The article Mycetophilidae was tagged for copyright concerns on January 14th, but though the material in question was added by you, here, you weren't given the requisite notice alerting you to the concerns and advising you how they might be addressed. The suspected source of the material is. Since I don't see an indication of source at the time, I can't positively determine that your material was not taken from that site. Can you please clarify where you found this material so we can determine how best to address these copyright concerns? (You've been around a while, but if you had gotten the requisite notice, it would have pointed you to our copyright policy and Requesting copyright permission. I link them in case they will be useful to you.) It may be necessary to revise some of the material to separate it from the source, if it was drawn from that site, and, of course, it would be appropriate to cite them in that case. I will watchlist your page for a time and will see any response you give here. I have also watchlisted the article and will delay processing of this one until you've had a chance to shed some light on the matter. Thanks for any clarification you can provide. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:57, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) Do you have any specifics on when I might check back? The article is past due for processing, but since you were not advised I think it's very reasonable to extend the usual date. As I am not the only administrator who deals with copyright concerns (just, perhaps, currently the major), I would like to make a note at Copyright problems/Older consolidated alerting any others of the current status of this one. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Since you haven't given any specifics, are you planning to revise the material or to request permission to use it? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * All right, sounds good. The best thing to do is probably to remove the section until you have a chance to get to it, as the "copyright problem" notice is rather ugly and certainly doesn't add to the article. :/ I'll go ahead and do that and make a note at WP:CP that a revised version should be restored at some point. Thanks. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Signing
I noticed that you have put four tildes in your edit summaries. There is no need to do that, as they are not converted to a signature and your username always appears in page histories regardless. See Special:Contributions/Notafly. You only need to sign messages left on talk pages as a courtesy --> (EhJJ)TALK 15:27, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Moved an anon notice to end

 * Hi Robert, Can you get in touch with work ASAP please? NOT SPAM - Fiona 26/11/07

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Re: Eugene Le Moult
We are still trying to undo what this man did to neotropical butterfly taxonomy. By the way, André Freitas just sent me a pdf of a new paper by Lamas with butterfly higher classification, letting the cat out of the bag as to what he, Häuser, de Jong, Nielsen, Pelham, Robbins, Smith, Wahlberg and Vane-Wright are going to propose later on this year. The paper is in quite simple Spanish, and the tables are all Latinate names we know and use every day. WP's email, as I understand it, does not permit attachments. Is there another way I could send this to you? I also have Lamas' bibliography of neotropical butterflies in Word (sure beats re-typing these refs all the time). My email is gmail: william.overal -- at -- gmail.com  Cheers, Bill

Hello
I am interested in getting a degree in Entomology, do you have any suggestions for me? Bugboy52.4 (talk) 19:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you mean ?
 * Can you help add a section for the history of the Insect class? Such including it's creation by Linnaeus? Bugboy52.4 (talk) 16:46, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:Juniper Hairstreak
Thank you for your kind words. -- Meganmccarty (talk) 15:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Identification
A bunch of insect photos from Africa out here User:Neelix/Images/Unknown - looking for ids. My entomology education seems to be slipping and I am not even able to tell the difference between embioptera and dermaptera especially when it does not display its fore tarsi :( ! Shyamal (talk) 13:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Papilio prexaspes and Papilio fuscus
Hi Robert, seems like taxa assigned to these two names are in a state of confusion. An editor has asked me whether there is a Fuscus Swallowtail and I have no literature to help answer this. Shyamal (talk) 06:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This appears to have been resolved, but not entirely sure if it is correct. Seems like Papilio fuscus andamanicus is now Papilio prexaspes andamanicus. Shyamal (talk) 11:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Sven Ingemar Ljungh
Hi Robert, trust you had a good summer on the trail of Linnaeus. Did you hear of Ljungh, I only recently came across his name mentioned as the author of a bird subspecies but it seems he made large collections across taxa. Shyamal (talk) 05:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes also Anders Erikson Sparrman and others. Here are my photos of the Uppsala collections studied by Linnaeus and some other early collections in Sweden .Delighted to hear from you. Warmest regards Robert
 * Interesting. I presume the bird on the left of File:LinneMuseet_(9).JPG is a Red-headed Woodpecker. I nearly thought it was the Bare-fronted Hoodwink ! Shyamal (talk) 15:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of List of Butterflies of Morocco
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status
As reviewing administrator I did not delete it, but listed in on the page for possible copyright violations. Though it is true that facts can not be copyrighted-- see. I am not sure of this, There is possibly creativity involved in selecting which species to include. I suggest you ask for help at the WikiProject Lepidoptera or another biology project--there may be some precedents here for how we handle this.
 * In any case, if you add information from other sources also--and not follow the order exactly of your source-- there may be fewer problems. Explain yourself in more detail on the talk p. I am not nan expert in this area, & others will judge. . DGG (talk) 16:09, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
DGG (talk) 20:47, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

oops. It has to say db-author inside double brackets without the nowiki tags. But I'll go delete it now. DGG (talk) 21:17, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Seitz
Wonder if you have seen these wonderful scans http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Seitz%2C%20Adalbert%2C%201860-1938%22 Shyamal (talk) 11:37, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded links to Seitz v. 1, 2, and 5 to Gigapedia. I am putting together a pdf of the plates of Biologia Centrali Americana Lepidoptera, v. 3, that I will also post there. Cheers, --Wloveral (talk) 13:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Tegminae
The plural of tegmen is usually tegmina, but is there any other form ? http://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=10&q=%22tegminae%22&hl=en Shyamal (talk) 10:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

A long-deserved barnstar from WikiProject Lepidoptera
AshLin (talk) 09:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)