User talk:Nousernamesleft/archive6

RfA
Good evening. I wanted to personally let you know that I am not trying to some sort of jerk and, please believe that I am not over exaggerating the affect an admin can have. Beam 01:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I recently just battled my way out of an admin's grasp. A personal bias led to me being blocked (twice) and topic banned (twice). Both times it took days for other admins to clean up the mess and fix it. Even though I was cleared and proved right.... I almost left in disgust. It was so humiliating to have an admin strip me of my dignity and remove me from an article that I fought so hard to work on. And the thing is I never broke NPOV or CONSENUS or anything like that. In fact, that wasn't even an issue. It was percieved civility. Honestly, I almost left it was so degrading. I'm afraid that DHMO will ruin some little editor's new career, and even just one editor ruined is too many. Why not wait 2 months to prove that he's matured? I know the answer: he's too power hungry and sees adminship in his grasp. And know that before this morning I never had interacted with him. I spent many hours reading the whole RfA, and went through the last 6 months of his contribs, read his entire talk page, and the offwiki events as well. I can't fathom how 300 people can overlook it! They are blinded, imo, by his good article contributions and apparent suckuppingness (sic). But to say these things makes me look like an asshole and it sucks. Beam 01:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for that concession. However, why do you feel he won't do that? I mean, even as recent as 2 weeks ago he was making snap emotional moves... with such upgraded power these moves could do so much damage if they are made against someone. It's just troubling, to me at least. And the solution to this, to me, is to wait 2 months! 2 months! 60 days! But... I don't see that happening. Beam 01:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * With 60 days of mature activities, I would be the first to STRONGLY SUPPORT his adminship. Beam 01:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

As to your recent example, we don't know how he would have acted if he had admin powers, that's the thing. above when I say "why do you feel he won't" I am referring to you saying "I, however, remain convinced DHMO will not do so.". And honestly, 60 days would fix this... but it just won't happen, which speaks about him... and not well. Beam 01:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

It could happen. I'm talking to him. I hope this works out! It would be the best freaking admin action ever! Beam 02:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I made the proposal on his talk page. It's a really tough thing I'm suggesting, and honestly it would take a really dedicated user, a truly selfless action, and some balls to happen. It may be too much to ask. We will see. Beam 02:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

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 * Thank you for your support vote at Roman Catholic Church NancyHeise (talk) 04:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Admins
At least four under the age of 14? I didn't realize. I thought there was just the one who was 12 when he passed... I guess I was just trying to make a point anyways about the difficulty of passing at a younger age, shouldn't have started mentioning numbers. I am still surprised at that, though. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 19:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

rfa thanks spam pour vous
hey Nousernamesleft (nice one) just wanted to thank you for your participation in my recent RFA. i've left you some templated thank spam below. also, feel free to comment on my in-depth RFA analysis. best regards, xenocidic (talk) 23:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

templated rfa thank-spam 

I would like to thank the community for placing their trust in me during my recent request for adminship, which passed 72 13 2. Rest assured, I have read each comment thoroughly and will be addressing the various concerns raised as I step cautiously into my new role as janitor. In particular, I would like to thank Balloonman for putting so much time into reviewing my contributions and writing such a thoughtful nomination statement after knowing me for only a brief period of time (and for convincing me that I was ready to take up the mop now, rather than go through admin coaching).
 * Thank you for your support

To my fellow admins - please let me know right away if I ever take any mis-steps with my new tools. Should I make a mistake, and you reverse the action, I will not consider it to be wheel-warring (but please tell me so I can understand what I did wrong).

To everyone - please feel free to slap me around a bit if I ever lose sight of the core philosophy of Wikipedia as I understand it - the advancement of knowledge through the processes of mutual understanding and respect. As always, feel free to drop by my talk page if I can be of any assistance. =)

Sincerely,

~xenocidic, 01:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Ant
I've slightly edited your comment at the ant FAC. Although I'm sure it was unintended, what read like a dig at the editor's nationality seemed inappropriate jimfbleak (talk) 05:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No offence taken! Always fun to see the stereotypical notions held by folks. My problem is more with the FA process which seems to require that the nominator fix problems - seems to be a bizarre case of encouraging ownership! Thanks for the time and review points. Shyamal (talk) 05:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, I'd seen enough of your edits elsewhere to realise after a while that it was an unfortunate coincidence. jimfbleak (talk) 19:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Poncelet
Ok Nousernamesleft, I'm up for a collaboration. If you could explain what has been already done, what you think should be done, and what are the sources on Jean-Victor Poncelet (basically put me up to date), then I'll check out to the library today and see what I can find (if you have any links to JSTOR or other that's fine). I'll start reading the article soon. Also, what is you final objective? FA? Randomblue (talk) 08:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

The link you gave seems to be a history of hydraulic wheels and turbines rather than a history of Poncelet. Is that the correct link? Randomblue (talk) 17:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Coaching match found

 * I see you are no longer involved. No problem, really!  Malinaccier (talk) 02:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

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My comment on RyRy5's talk page
I wouldn't really mention this, but you brought it up at my RFB and I just to make sure I have this straight. There were two parts to my comment that you linked to at the RFB. One was the part in which I said, "then you did withdraw the nomination", which you did do here when you said "I'll believe you, and withdraw the nomination." You also added "but I'm fairly sure actual evidence (secondary reliable sources) should be provided first". Combining your two thoughts there, I believe those mean that the AFD should be closed as per your withdrawal and a tag should be added to the article. I'm not an expert on AFDs, but I'm pretty sure that it should have been closed, since AFD doesn't exist to be a list of article that need cleanup and/or sources, we have categories for that. The article in question was deemed notable. In fact, the article already had a sources tag that was added here before you added the AFD tag here. I'm pretty confident I understood the situation just fine, the only question going through my mind was if I was referring to the correct AFD.

The other part of my comment was when I quoted the Talk Page Guidelines where it says, "On your own user talk page, you may remove others' comments, although archiving is generally preferred."

I'm pretty sure I handled the situation correctly on both counts. Useight (talk) 01:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Regarding RyRy5's removing of your comments, if you take a look at Talk_page_guidelines, it says, "On your own user talk page, you may remove others' comments, although archiving is generally preferred." It is perfectly permitted to remove comments from your own talk page, regardless of content. And yes, of course I saw your comment to which you refer, it's right here. RyRy5 was not overstepping any bounds for deleting it, he can does so if he wishes. I understand the situation just fine, I'm just agreeing with the guideline which I quoted above. I, too, think that your comment should have been left there or placed in his archive as per convention, tradition, simplicity, or whatever the word I'm looking for is, but RyRy5 did not break any policies by removing it. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that I agree with you in that he should have left it, but disagree in that he has to leave it. Useight (talk) 01:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, if it's just a question of ethics, then okay, I see what you mean. But please understand that one person is not bound by the ethical stance of another. In the real world, we're bound by some things legally, but if what a person does doesn't cross the line into illegality, even if it's unethical by some subjective standards, they can still do it. In Wikipedia, same concept, if it's not against policy, but unethical by some subjective standards, they can still do it. Kind of like someone being a vegetarian because they think that's more ethical. They can do that if they want, but they can't try to coerce me into becoming vegetarian. But I didn't come to Wikipedia to debate philosophy, I came to improve the encyclopedia and now I'm going to go back to doing that. I hope this difference in philosophy doesn't come between us. P.S. - Thanks for commenting at my RFB, it's obvious it's not going to pass, but I'm getting an excellent idea of how to improve myself, especially in the RFA-related realm. Useight (talk) 01:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Reply
-- RyRy5 (talk ) 02:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you for your comments in my RFA. I will do my best to address the concerns you have raised. I am trying to do more in the mainspace, but I am running out of ideas for Final Fantasy magic. Hehe. And for the canvassing, it was a misunderstanding on my part. Thanks again. :)  &lt;3  Tinkleheimer   TALK!!  21:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Email
Check your email. - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 23:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

re: social sciences
Thanks for the complement about the Political science portal. I've been out of town for nine days, so I couldn't answer your message. I will try to help you out as much as I can, but it might take a couple of days for me to get to it (my schedule should clear up here in about two weeks). But I would be happy to help you get the portal up and running when I get the time. If you have anything else you would like to ask or tell me, feel free to send me another message. Best of luck- Kanogul (talk) 02:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Poncelet
It is not true that He was abandoned for dead by his fellow soldiers at the Battle of Krasnoi.[4] . He was fighting, till the last minute. The reference is from his biograph Didion. Do you read French? I can send you a PDF. He did not served as a civil engineer in Metz, he was a professor at the artillery school of Metz. You should also tell his captivity in Saratov. Pierre de Lyon (talk) 16:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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Recent AfD
Hello, you closed the debate at Articles for deletion/Adonis Italo de Sá Barreto Feliciano. I am wondering if you made your decision based on counting votes (6 delete vs. 2 keep) because in my opinion, the delete votes came about because people either ignored or misunderstood one of the main facets of WP:ATHLETE, which states that any athlete who has played for a fully professional club in a sanctioned competition is inherently notable, and that criterion was met by the player in question, as Carioca noted in his first comment. I am perfectly happy to put this on WP:DRV but I imagine that's just an unnecessary hassle for everyone involved - it's nothing personal with you, I am just an extreme inclusionist when it comes to footballers' articles :-) ugen64 (talk) 23:14, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

My RFB
Thank you for your comments in my RFB. Since it was only at 64%, it was a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, so I withdrew. I didn't want it to run until its scheduled close time because my intent in standing for RFB was to help the bureaucrats with their workload, not give them one more RfX to close. Through the course of my RFB, I received some very valuable feedback, some of it was contradictary, but other points were well agreed upon. I have ceased my admin coaching for now to give me time to revamp my method. I don't want to give up coaching completely, but I'm going to find a different angle from which to approach it. As for my RFA Standards, I am going to do some deep intraspection. I wrote those standards six months ago and I will slowly retool them. This will take some time for me to really dig down and express what I want in an admin candidate. If, after some serious time of deep thought, I don't find anything to change in them, I'll leave them the way they are. I'm not going to change them just because of some community disagreement as to what they should be. Will I stand for RFB again in the future? I don't know. Perhaps some time down the road, when my tenure as an administrator is greater than one year, if there is a pressing need for more active bureaucrats, maybe. If there no pressing need, then maybe not. Useight (talk) 03:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Admin coaching page
Not that your still my coach, but I just wanted you to see this and I would like it if you commented there. Thanks, RyRy5 (talk ) 10:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

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FA-Team Mission 4
Mission 4, a series of articles on the Everglades, could do with help from the FA-Team! Thanks! Awadewit (talk) 13:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Feature Article Candidate Roman Catholic Church
''This is a formal notification. Ignore if you have no further objections''
 * The nomination of the above article was archived by the Featured Articles Director, with the comment that the page had again grown too long. He has asked that all remaining objectors produce a list of their specific problems with the article in its current form. These will then be addressed by the article's editorial team before re-presentation for FA status.
 * Can you therefore please post a complete list of any specific remaining objections you may have on the article's talk page at: Talk:Roman_Catholic_Church. If possible can we have this list in by the end of June, so that editors can begin to address them all in detail in July. To prevent the  nomination again becoming over-long, we would ask that you raise ALL of your remaining concerns at this stage, making your comments as specific and comprehensive as possible. It would help if all your comments were gathered under your name in a single heading on the page.  Thank you. Xandar (talk) 01:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:
Nousernamesleft!! The user I missed the most on Wikipedia! How are you? I see you are still very active; I mean an FA and 2 featured lists, wow!

I am surprised you still remember the apple article thingie. Thanks!

Take care, &Lambda;ua&int; Wi  se  (Operibus anteire) 08:08, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Coaching
I'll be back on Wikipedia every day now that I've found a computer, so I will start working on that assignment you gave me for the AFD's. Cheers, -- Ṝέđ ṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ  Drop me a lineReview Me! 19:00, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have finished the AFD assignment.  Ṝέđ ṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ  Drop me a lineReview Me! 18:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Most of them are in my recent contributions, but I'll pull some of the others up.  Ṝέđ ṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ  Drop me a lineReview Me! 18:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Here you go---


 * - Uncontroversial, fairly good reasoning. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 18:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * - Somewhat controversial, and I'd have to agree with you here - reliable secondary sources exist; plus those who supported deletion don't seem to have much in the way of realistic arguments. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 18:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * - See #2.


 * Doing a Google News search and "combing through his Google results" as you said, the subjects seems to be nonnotable. I could find nothing reliable on the "best radio personality" award. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 18:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * - See #1

 Ṝέđ ṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ  Drop me a lineReview Me! 18:02, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * - See #1


 * Responded above. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 18:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Now what?  Ṝέđ ṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ  Drop me a lineReview Me! 19:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Art Houtteman
Hey. You commented on this FAC, noting some issues with the article which I have since responded to and fixed. If you could follow up on your comments, that would be great. Thanks, Wizardman  23:48, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed with a final count of 42 supporting, 2 opposing and 2 neutral. I would like to thank Keeper76 especially for the great nomination. I look forward to assist the project and its community as an administrator. Thanks again, Cena rium  Talk 00:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/History of timekeeping devices
We're done with your comments above. Thanks, « Milk's Favorite <font color="#4D0100" face="Snap ITC">Cøøkie  22:43, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Ride the Lobster
Thanks for helping to expand this article. Clerks. (talk) 13:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK
DYK that the cabal isnt scared, we are here to end this rascim, do wat you must but remember, we have already contacted Jimbo and he wont be happy.<font face="Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="black">Gears <font face="Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="black">Of War  23:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * See Jimbos talkpage and you'll learn everything you need to know.<font face="Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="black">Gears <font face="Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="black">Of War  23:08, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Cabal

 * I replaced it. Is it better?  Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  23:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm just really down right now. :( Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  00:00, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome
You're welcome for my input in the matter. I do hope that that group of editors will move on from this incident, rather than continue it. I learned long ago that it's better to engage in civil discussion, or even back away, rather than drag something on. Thank you to you as well for your help too. :) Acalamari 00:03, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * A word of warning: User:Gears of War has been adding "the cabal lives on" to his userpage. I rv'd him twice, so next time is a warning appropriate?  Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  00:11, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Impressed
Just wanted to say that I am extremely impressed, and indeed awed, by the immense maturity and intellect you've shown on WP, working with such a difficult (at least for me) subject as mathematics in your articles and displaying insight and excellent reasoning in your participation in discussions. Frankly, I was flabbergasted when I found out that you are (or at least were, at the time of your RfA) 12 years old. I don't know if I would have been able to do at 12 what you do (I'm 14 now...). Great work; keep it up! --Kakofonous (talk) 17:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're a model to 12-year old Wikipedians like me. No really, I've spent the past 12 hours thyinking about it.   Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  18:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

General relativity FAC review
Thanks once more for your helpful comments at the FAC review. It would be great if you were to hide your resolved comments in a cap box template, to make it easier for the FAC directors to see which issues have been resolved. Thanks! Markus Poessel (talk) 18:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Great, thanks for your quick reaction! Markus Poessel (talk) 18:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

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Holkam
Done. Great work. Marskell (talk) 12:14, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Qin dynasty.
Okay, I'll help you with that soon. · <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">AndonicO <font face="Times New Roman" color="Navy">Engage. 00:37, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do. I'm Chinese-American and have several resources at home.  bibliomaniac 1  5  17:02, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
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