User talk:Novem Linguae/Archive 6

VisualEditorEveryehere!
Hi, VisualEditorEveryhere does not work directly in the Bengali Wiktionary (bn.wiktionary). But using mw.loader.load it works! What could be the problem? Aishik Rehman (talk) 16:06, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey @Aishik Rehman. Got any diffs? Something like  should work in theory. When you say not work, do you mean that it doesn't load, or something else such as buggy behavior? – Novem Linguae  (talk) 23:11, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It doesn't work but it does. Aishik Rehman (talk) 15:32, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * . Your wiki appears to have validation turned on for user scripts. enwiki does not, and I guess mw.loader.load bypasses that validation somehow. The script's code would have to be downgraded to remove ES6 features (ES6 is a version of JavaScript) for it to work directly. Hope that helps. – Novem Linguae (talk) 15:57, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Novem Linguae After downgrading to ES5 its working. Thanks (: Aishik Rehman (talk) 16:23, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Patrol logs
So you have finally figured out the nuances of the two logs. I don't understand that last bit about "X" in the curation tool. Anyway, this is just a reminder to please document this somewhere on NPP since you are the only one who really knows this and the complete answer is spread across several different TPs. MB 13:50, 28 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @MB. Great idea. I updated WP:NPP just now with that info. Please double check that this edit makes sense and fully explains it. – Novem Linguae (talk) 14:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I made a few changes. The only thing that is not clear is often creates an entry in the patrol log, but not always - but that's really not important to most of us, if anyone. Thanks. MB 17:30, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Not clear for me either. Is it a bug? Is it because we have the ability to click patrol only once, but we can mark and unmark as reviewed an unlimited number of times? Guess I should amend my comment to I've "mostly" wrapped my head around it :P – Novem Linguae (talk) 21:23, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

DetectSNG.js showing keywords on all articles
Hi Novem Linguae,

I noticed that User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/DetectSNG.js highlights SNG keywords even on patrolled articles. I don't know if this is a bug or (intentional) feature, but since this script seems primarily intended for NPP, I don't believe it's (always) necessary for established articles. Although it could be useful for considering whether to send neglected/dubious articles for NfD, this would still be better as something that could be toggled rather than something that shows by default. Would you be able to look in this? Complex / Rational 19:26, 30 September 2022 (UTC)


 * . Good idea., it no longer shows on patrolled articles. Thanks for requesting. – Novem Linguae (talk) 21:30, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks good now, thanks! Complex / Rational  00:36, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Hmmm...
How are you not autopatrolled?  Onel 5969  TT me 12:31, 7 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the compliment! I think I'd need to make 25 articles a year to qualify for that one. That plus the no hat collecting culture around here makes me hesitant to apply for perms. If I go through a content creation phase perhaps I will apply :) – Novem Linguae (talk) 13:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It's just 25 articles in total, not per year fortunately :). We need to create a better culture against hat avoiding, that's for sure. Femke (talk) 17:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

The da Vinci Barnstar

 * to that — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 13:09, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you both. I'm very glad to see that also received the same barnstar. His efforts on PageTriage are phenomenal and he is equally deserving. I'd also like to thank, , and  for +2 reviews. We're building some nice momentum now. Great team effort. – Novem Linguae  (talk) 19:37, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

my tutorial
Hello. I hope you are doing well. In response to WMF's tutorials, I created User:Usernamekiran/Toolforge pywikibot tutorial. Do you think it is good enough? Regards, —usernamekiran (talk) 16:44, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey there. It looks like a good outline. There is room to add some details though if you desire. For example, what exactly do you type into the console? What (if any) config files do you need to set up? Hope this helps. – Novem Linguae (talk) 20:41, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * oh. No, it's not an outline, it is the complete tutorial. —usernamekiran (talk) 02:07, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

dear Novem about request article comment response
I am upper high functional & made a honest mistake on a page but before I realized the mistake I thought I did the right thing but as soon as I realized it I fixed it

Also I do not want to copy and paste everything because it was about both the list and finding the best matching catagory Which the accident in catagorise was the mistake — Preceding unsigned comment added by SirSharp (talk • contribs) 19:02, 12 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @SirSharp. Hello friend. When I visited the page I found it in this state, so I reverted it. Please be careful in the future. Hope this helps. – Novem Linguae (talk) 19:05, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand your concerns, kind soul I did a section instead as I quote from copy
 * ”by Reactivity[edit source]
 * Non-reactive
 * Paper target — ordinary disposable paper-based target with painted pattern for bullseye shooting, may be made from paperboard/cardboard, corrugated board or even fiberboard, and usually single-use and purchased in large quantities. Requires mounting onto a rack, a hanger, a wire or a backboard during use” SirSharp (talk) 22:17, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Will you agree to such or do you want it kept I am in Canadian eastern daylights savings time until November 6th so I want you to decide by detroit sundown halloween as it will be a handful with the kids trick or treating SirSharp (talk) 22:22, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * update how do I format so I can learn & also keep in mind I am relaxing from a work out & will get a shot of updated Moderna COVID-19 vaccinewhich means I need 72 hours after tomorrow but I took a screenshot SirSharp (talk) 19:16, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Pages are supposed to look a certain way. Perhaps MOS:LAYOUT can give you some ideas. – Novem Linguae (talk) 19:20, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you be sure to send me the links so I can learn from my mistakes I will look at it after the weekend — Preceding unsigned comment added by SirSharp (talk • contribs) 19:31, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

question on articles
How many articles is reasonable to share per day & my ability to invent is what is most important & I treat creativity like it’s free speech even if I do not agree with it though it is not unlimited SirSharp (talk) 22:45, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

from Sir Sharp October 2022
i have fully acecpt that you reverted my draft on rubber band weapons (as a alone article) however secondly as a result a tag was left mentioned it should be merged with Rubber band so what i did is a section for rubber band & left it that way some examples of why i have good faith, keep things as generic as possible alongside no bias SirSharp (talk) 17:16, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey there. I reverted you because you wrote "paper shooting target" on a page. That didn't make sense to me. I don't currently have an opinion on the topic "rubber band weapons". Hope that makes sense. Happy editing. – Novem Linguae (talk) 17:26, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * i believe opinion is Freedom of speech until unless their is a conflict & 2) i actually like people who are familar or experts because they have knowledge to offer understand not a single cent for unlimited for me on wikipedia & in generalSirSharp (talk) 18:24, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

That’s understandable also keep in mind I am nerotypical so sometimes I need to be reminded of misunderstandings because I think in ways most do not & can make a section in my sand box & within 2 weeks to a minute I will try to make a sandbox then Produce a section of paper target under target if you are not happy with it I will let you revert it again SirSharp (talk) 17:49, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * i got it written & i am wired from Tea feel free to give me feedback SirSharp (talk) 17:54, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

how is this Shooting target let me know SirSharp (talk) 18:00, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Let me be clear what I quoted was modified by someone but in terms of paper targets I did write a good deal originally to get the snowman down the mountain I just wanted to take full responsibility & self resolve that issue SirSharp (talk) 22:57, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

I am not going to lie sections are easier then articles

And below is my motive

and 2) as much as I can be funny can be remember I also am a intellectual therefore i understand what your saying & I also want people to understand me & I just want to help people, education people & give them the access they need to innovate which is why a reason why support 3DPrinting but without knowledge it’s hard to come up with ideas & without ideas we have very little that’s why both are so important to me anyone who challenges me go through your house & see how many things was at one point in Someone’s mind at some point & I believe more should be done worldwide to protect free ideas SirSharp (talk) 22:41, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

3 topics that requires your assist of judgment
Dear User:Novem Linguae,

This is francabicon here and i would like to seek your assistance of judgement regarding the matter of my edit on three topics:

Here is my edit:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaysian_United_Indigenous_Party&oldid=1053371794
 * Malaysian United Indigenous Party(Current Version)

Here is my edit:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_Malays_National_Organisation&oldid=105337095
 * United Malays National Organisation (Current Version)

Here is my edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaysian_Islamic_Party&oldid=1053371583
 * Malaysian Islamic Party(Current Version)

Here is the problem I've edited 3 topics of Ideology, Controversy whit assisted contribution by many members but has been taken down by this User:Amir Noor Muhammad. I repeatedly told the user that if he has any arguments of this topic the user can talk to me about it but the user didn't just not talk to me about it and removed large chunks of our contribution of it which i don't think is fair for the people who had place an effort contribution to the new section of the page. Also adding to the fact that he had many Controversy on this talk page where the many user had criticize him for similar behaviour like that which you may check right over here: User talk:Amir Noor Muhammad. Also the user had written to ban me from editing with his recent revert. The reason that the user always revert my edit is that "it's not related" "personal not on party lines" which i then replied to him stating that " so long as they are part of the party their political action is related to the party" but the user still insist on reverting. Hope you understand that i don't mind to be wrong but i would like your best judgment on what you can do to resolve this matter because those topics are with valid links and valid facts. Thank you. hope to hear frm you soon do talk to me if you do want to know more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Francabicon (talk • contribs) 11:23, November 3, 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey . Thanks for the message and sorry for the delayed response. I'm only seeing it just now because you put it at the top of my talk page instead of the bottom. Just so you know, new messages typically go at the bottom. Anyway are you still having issues with this person or did everything get resolved? Thanks. – Novem Linguae (talk) 13:49, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Block feature on MediaWiki
Hi, I saw you make an edit on this page: mw:Manual:Block and unblock, so I want to ask a little bit. Can wiki admin block IP by ASN? On my home wiki, some ISPs have all their IPs as proxy/VPN, for instance: OOO Network of data-centers Selectel (ASN: 49505) and Clouvider Limited (ASN: 62240). A sockpuppet used some IPs of those services to make many vandalism edits. So I want to block IPs of those ISPs by ASN. Thanks. Plantaest (talk) 18:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey @Plantaest. I'm not sure, so I'll go ahead and move your question to a different page. Someone should know there. Hope this helps. Happy editing. – Novem Linguae (talk) 23:44, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

DetectPromo.js
Hello! Thank you for your work on amazing scripts. I noticed that some of your draft related scripts, such as User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/DetectPromo.js, only work in draft and mainspace. I want to ask - why not userspace? userspace drafts are a thing that exists, and being able to easily spot promo language in a massive userspace draft with your tool would be very useful (for me at least), for example when I help users at the Teahouse. casualdejekyll 03:56, 8 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey @Casualdejekyll. Thanks for the feature request. Can you link me to a userspace draft that you've seen recently? Maybe I can examine it and find a template and then have DetectPromo show if that template is detected. – Novem Linguae (talk) 23:43, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Novem Linguae - User:Carrieruggieri/Accelerated experiential dynamic psychotherapy doesn't appear to have anything in particular that would be helpful here (that's the draft that got me to make this request to you) but templates such as userspace draft or checking if the title of the page matches   or something would be very helpful. Or perhaps (if possible) just making it so you can run the script on any page by clicking something in the sidebar or some sort of toggle.  casualdejekyll  00:04, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't have time to work on this today, but I created a ticket on GitHub to remind me to do it in the future. – Novem Linguae (talk) 06:09, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!
Happpy Holidays greeting.png Season's greetings, Novem Linguae! I hope you enjoy the holiday season&#32;and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world. Thank you for your always increasing effort to maintain, improve, and expand Wikipedia. ––FormalDude (talk)  05:07, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Novem Linguae!


Happy New Year! Novem Linguae, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

Abishe (talk) 20:33, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 20:33, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Retroactive thanks
Just got to doing a diff for the AWB discussion, and noticed that it was you who pinged me at the "a eu"->"an eu" thread. Thanks for that, as it allowed me to redirect my frustration with an apparently intractable attitude problem into at least fixing some part of the problem. Your question just now was also à propos since a number of other people were probably thinking the same thing. If you do ever run for admin, I would support you based on these two constructive interactions. We need more of those. Elinruby (talk) 14:44, 5 January 2023 (UTC)


 * @Elinruby. Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you found my comments helpful. See you around :) – Novem Linguae (talk) 00:36, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

There is a mop reserved in your name
—usernamekiran (talk) 22:07, 3 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the kind words @Usernamekiran. I will certainly give it some thought. Happy new year. – Novem Linguae (talk) 13:10, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Seconding this... I thought they already were an admin! casualdejekyll  13:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * +1! 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him &#124; talk) 22:26, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * You can count on my support too. Best regards. --John Cline (talk) 04:57, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, please consider it. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 10:33, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

GAN tool - new subcats
Hey, it looks like the GAN review tool needs to be updated to reflect some changes at the GA subcategories.


 * Under Language and literature, Tolkien has been added
 * Under Social sciences and society > Culture, sociology, and psychology > Clothing, fashion, and beauty has been added and Globalization has been removed

Cheers and thanks for making such an excellent tool! &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 10:40, 9 January 2023 (UTC)


 * . Thanks for reporting. Happy new year. – Novem Linguae (talk) 11:16, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you too! &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 12:05, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Xin Zhou (physicist)
Hi! As you suggested to make the article more neutral and encyclopedic, I revised the article, can you take another look to see if it now meets the requirements for publication, Thank you! Wsdst talk — Preceding undated comment added 04:21, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey @Wsdst. Nice job on fixing up that draft. I left a comment with a couple more suggestions. Hope it helps. – Novem Linguae (talk) 04:56, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi! Thank you for your suggestions, they really help me improve my draft Draft:Xin Zhou (physicist). Now I add a citation to the education paragraph and fix citations #2 and #3 as you suggested, can this draft be approved now？And the title "Xin Zhou (physicist)" is not suitable, can it be replaced by “Xin Zhou (scientist)”?
 * Thanks again for your suggestions. Wsdst (talk) 06:09, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Wsdst. Looks good. I approved the draft. Great working with you. I hope you stick around. Happy new year :) – Novem Linguae (talk) 06:11, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Userboxes
Can you please remind me how to add userboxes to my page. I want to do some page cleaning and refresh some things. Filmmaker8306 (talk) 06:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey there @Filmmaker8306. Long time no chat. WP:USERBOX has a "Search for userbox topic" box and button you can use to search for userboxes you might want to add. Once you find one you like, copy paste it into the wikicode for your userpage, between the userboxtop and userboxbottom templates. The userbox code itself will also be wrapped in braces, for example, . Hope this helps. – Novem Linguae  (talk) 06:57, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I have one more question: im trying to add an external link to my page but for some reason, the link comes up as [1] and not the actual link. This is the link— https://youtube/EkzMef3JwWk Filmmaker8306 (talk) 07:19, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * There's 3 ways to add external links: A) no brackets, like in your message above. B) Brackets with a URL inside, which condenses it to [1]. C) Brackets with a URL inside, a space, and then what you want the URL to show up as. So Test would become Test. More info at Help:Link. Hope that helps. – Novem Linguae (talk) 07:24, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Usha Sirohi
I just looked at the history of Usha Sirohi and realized you edited it one minute prior to when I accepted it as a draft. Sorry for stepping on your toes! HouseBlastertalk 06:55, 22 January 2023 (UTC)


 * @HouseBlaster. Haha no worries. I hit the accept button and got an error. You were quicker than me. Fair play! :) – Novem Linguae (talk) 07:00, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Help with Toolforge
Hi, would you be willing to help me with setting up my bot on Toolforge, for Bots/Requests for approval/Qwerfjkl (bot) 15 (currently I'm just running it on PAWS)? I've been following User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Toolforge bot tutorial. — Qwerfjkl  talk  15:19, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey @Qwerfjkl. I'd be happy to help, but looks like your bot is written in python, which isn't my area of expertise. You can try to follow my tutorial and adapt it to python, but if you get stuck, you should probably ask on Discord in the technical channel, or onwiki at WP:VPT. Let me know if you have any specific questions. Hope that helps. – Novem Linguae (talk) 22:41, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've started to setup the FTP client, but I 'm not sure what I should replace (remote directory:)  with. —  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:56, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oooh, I think I can answer this one. Try replacing novem-bot with your tool's username (which is different from your wikitech username) – Novem Linguae (talk) 23:24, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * So  would apply to any tool in Toolforge? —  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:39, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I also have this tutorial (which might help). — Qwerfjkl  talk  10:50, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * So /mnt/nfs/labstore-secondary-tools-project/ would apply to any tool in Toolforge? That's my understanding, yes. – Novem Linguae (talk) 14:03, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Correction to the above: According to this, a better path is /data/project/toolNameGoesHere. – Novem Linguae (talk) 19:02, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

What should I use for private key file? I have ssh-rsa [some text] and Fingerprint: -BEGIN OPENSSH PRIVATE KEY- [some lines] -END OPENSSH PRIVATE KEY- I presume the private key fingerprint, but it asked me for a passphrase to convert to PuTTY from OpenSSH format. — Qwerfjkl  talk  18:08, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I used some kind of tool to generate my keys. Maybe try the instructions at SSH keys and see if that works. – Novem Linguae (talk) 19:07, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I found out you can do it through WinSCP. When starting PuTTY, I got the following message: The host key is not cached for this server:login.toolforge.org (port 22)You have no guarantee that the server is the computer you think it is.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>The server's ssh-ed25519 key fingerprint is:<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>ssh-ed25519 255 SHA256:xxW0+dRvWgCzYOq7uBKXXo7Xze0FVezt0QikIkpeMKI<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>If you trust this host, press "Accept" to add the key to PuTTY's cache and carry on connecting.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>If you want to carry on connecting just once, without adding the key to the cache, press "Connect Once".<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>If you do not trust this host, press "Cancel" to abandon the connection.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1674061167157:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  16:59, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I think that just means it's your first time connecting to this server. You can hit "accept" to basically say "I trust this server". – Novem Linguae (talk) 17:01, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Am I supposed to have a black window titled "bastion.toolforge.org. - PuTTY" with a green rectangle cursor (unresponsive)?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1674061800883:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:10, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Take a look at these 3 screenshots, including the comments. Hope that helps. – Novem Linguae (talk) 17:17, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Unresponsive window. I guess I'll try restarting PuTTY.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1674062374195:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:19, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * That worked.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1674062453775:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:20, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Restarting is always the answer :) – Novem Linguae (talk) 17:21, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * That was my third time restarting, each time I got further.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1674062729690:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:25, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I've made it to #Write and test your bot, and I have no idea what to do. PAWS used OAuth to login; I presume I'll need to actually add this to the code?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1674062992295:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:29, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with PAWS and OAuth. I've gone ahead and written a couple more sections in my bot tutorial to give you ideas. – Novem Linguae (talk) 17:49, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ┌──────────────────────────────┘ I presume from $this->wp->login('usernameGoesHere', 'passwordGoesHere'); that I have to login with pywikibot. I guess this will help.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1674064376985:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:52, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Python frameworks are above my pay grade, but yes, that looks right. – Novem Linguae (talk) 18:00, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * are you going to use pywikibot? If you are using python, pywikibot is recommended. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:17, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Usernamekiran, yes, I'm using pywikibot.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1674068990491:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  19:09, 18 January 2023 (UTC)


 * That reminds me to work on User:Usernamekiran/Toolforge pywikibot tutorial. But I'm too lazy. I will update it in a few hours, and let you guys know. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:27, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Is there a way to set a cron job to run a program once (indefinitely)? Is this (running a program indefinitely) bad practice?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1674075914947:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  21:05, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't need a cron job to run a program once. Could just fire it off in PuTTy. It will eventually crash though: server restarts, etc. And the program would eventually finish whatever task you programmed it to do, or would have to be programmed to check something else (such as an API) at a certain interval. What task do you have in mind? – Novem Linguae (talk) 21:11, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The code is here (User:Qwerfjkl (bot) task 15). It runs indefinitely and queries the API (newpages).<span id="Qwerfjkl:1674079817718:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  22:10, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd personally probably set the cron job to 1 minute or 5 minutes, then run an SQL query grabbing all pages created within the last 1 or 5 minutes. But there may be a better way. If you figure it out, let me know. – Novem Linguae (talk) 22:38, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * According to the gurus of WP:DISCORD's technical channel (which by the way I recommend you get an account and post tech questions there, then you can crowdsource the answers instead of just relying on my limited knowledge), Event Platform/EventStreams is also an option. – Novem Linguae (talk) 22:45, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Is there any way to change the permissions of a file before uploading it to Toolforge, or do I just have to be quick when protecting my passwords file?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1674583707794:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  18:08, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Not sure. I just rename them quickly. But there may be a better way. Bot passwords (a way to use the same username but a different password with different permissions) are also a good security practice. Special:BotPasswords – Novem Linguae (talk) 22:24, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I blanked the password before uploading it and then changed the permissions, and then modified the file to re-add the password. It turns out WinSCP can also change permissions and edit files.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1674667452205:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:24, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Process Cost Assessments (PCA) article follow up
@Novem the article I wrote on process cost assessments was cited with intent and no copying and pasting occurred. I did not copy and paste from a website for text, and when I quoted I ensured to follow proper citation protocol. Please let me know if you need any other information or clarification! CaliforniaPioneer (talk) 21:46, 30 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. Was just double checking. I'll add your comment to the draft. Thanks for following up. – Novem Linguae (talk) 01:28, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Glitchy translation tool
Hello, the tool that I used comes directly from the Wikipedia page layout. It's easier to find now than the simple link to connect alternate language pages is, which is the only reason I tried it. Here is an example link to start the tool. https://ja.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ContentTranslation&from=ja&to=en&page=STOLEN_SONG#suggestions It removes or breaks references when used, which is how I got left with Phoenixx (which had proper citations from major third party publications) moved to Draftspace.Londonbeat41692 (talk) 03:05, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey @Londonbeat41692. Thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately I am not too familiar with this tool. If you don't mind, you may want to repost your question at WP:VPT. There are hundreds of tech-saavy editors that follow that page and one of them might be familiar with your tool. Hope this helps. – Novem Linguae (talk) 22:33, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Missing Redirects Project
I found the Missing Redirects Project, which hasn't be running for some time now. Do you think you could try running it, or do you know anyone who can? The source code is here.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1676310216959:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:43, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey @Qwerfjkl. I think I found a link to the source code for the tool at User:Nickj/Redirects, but I think the link there is not working. It also looks like @Nickj hasn't edited in 10 years. I think a good next step might be to Special:Email Nickj and ask him to fix the broken link above / share the source code. If that doesn't work, then it would probably need to be reverse engineered from scratch. Perhaps a post at WP:BOTREQ would get that process started. Hope this helps. – Novem Linguae (talk) 18:40, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I managed to download the code (it wasn't working, as you said, but I reloaded the page or something and it worked). What would be best best way to reupload it?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1676314804206:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  19:00, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Here is the README, for example:


 * 1) When ####
 * 1) When ####

27-June-2005: Initial release, ver 1.0


 * 1) What ####
 * 1) What ####

This is the source code for these 3 projects:


 * Link Suggester and LinkBot  ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nickj/Link_Suggester )
 * Wiki Syntax Project         ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Syntax )
 * Mssing redirects & disambigs ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nickj/Redirects )

The implementation is mostly in PHP4, with some SQL scripts, this text file, and a BASH shell script.


 * 1) License ####
 * 1) License ####

All GPL, version 2.


 * 1) File contents ####
 * 1) File contents ####

README.txt                 : The file you're reading now. enwiki-DB-schema.sql       : The MySQL database schema used by these files, plus the "never_link_to" data. sql-queries.php            : Contains database queries for reading and updating the database. wiki.php                   : Stores functionality that is used in more than one script, but which is specific to the Wikipedia. wiki-syntax.php            : The functions that detect Wiki Syntax problems (excluding redirect-related problems) new-run.sh                 : Downloads the current dump of the Wikipedia, purges obsolete data, and runs the suggester.php script. suggester.php              : Finds linkbot suggestions, redirect suggestions, and Wiki Syntax problems. Takes over a week to run. output_new_redirects.php   : Outputs text files containing redirect suggestions. most-suggested.php         : Web script, that shows the most suggested links (in HTML format). This is because sometimes silly redirects get added, and so the results need to be checked for new "never_link_to" candidates. mysql.php                  : A series of functions for connection to and querying MySQL databases. output_malformed_pages.php : Outputs the files listing Syntax problems. Used by the Wiki Syntax project. redirect-cleanup.sql       : A SQL script that deletes bad redirect suggestions. Apply these queries this before running output_new_redirects.php upload-suggestions.php     : Bot script to upload the LinkBot's suggestions to the Wikipedia. lib.php                    : A project-independent store of useful PHP classes or functions.


 * 1) Who / Credits ####
 * 1) Who / Credits ####

Nick Jenkins - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nickj (Either leave a message on talk page, or to email, use the "E-mail this user" link).


 * 1) Questions & Answers ####
 * 1) Questions & Answers ####

Q: This code is a mess. Can I clean it up / refactor it? A: Yes, please go for it. Please add yourself to the "Who / credits" section, and send me the updated ZIP file, and I'll replace the current ZIP file with that new ZIP file.

Q: I've got a bugfix, can I send it to you? A: Yes, please go for it. Please add yourself to the "Who / credits" section, and send me the updated ZIP file, and I'll replace the current ZIP file with that new ZIP file.

Q: Can I take the ideas and reimplement them in another language? A: Yes, please go for it.

Q: Can I incorpotate some of this functionality into MediaWiki? A: Yes, please go for it.

Q: Can I run this script, and update any of the three project pages with more recent results? A: Yes, please go for it.

Other questions? Just ask. Basically if it helps the Wikipedia, and doesn't involve more work for me, then I'm very likely to say yes.

Qwerfjkl talk  19:02, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Here's the files (expires in 30 days).<span id="Qwerfjkl:1676315148174:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  19:05, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, excellent. I'd upload that to https://github.com/ (if you know how, else I can do it), then go make a thread at WP:BOTREQ asking for help getting this running. Whoever helps you, might want to give them collaborator access on the GitHub repo so they can make changes. Whoever helps you would probably want to eventually put this on Toolforge as a regularly running cron job. Looks like the bot's source code is licensed GPL v2, which should be fine for GitHub and Toolforge. – Novem Linguae (talk) 19:56, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Does this work?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1676462453636:User_talkFTTCLNNovem_Linguae" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  12:00, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. That should preserve the files, and make it easy for multiple people to work on them. I think next step is WP:BOTREQ. I'd take a look myself but am busy for a couple weeks. – Novem Linguae (talk) 20:29, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Coming here for this, after discovering it today :) Genuine_barnstar.jpg – SJ + 23:14, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Help in adjusting the NPP bar?
There have been discussions before, about the bar for NPP reviewers, my attempt was not successful, I'll give it a second try though. An admin mentioned, they could support raising the bar as well. And maybe you know of a discussion were I can get aware of some other concerns that might should be addressed? Raising the edit count and weighing the experience in deletion discussions less (that lack of experience lead to my and also to moops decline) would be my inputs. For me the main button we have is the one of marking articles as reviewed/approved. For that purpose we have the NPP tool bar with some extra features, but I believe most of them, (also nominating for deletion and maintenance tagging) can also be done without the NPP toolbar.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:21, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey there. Thanks for the message. I'd be in favor of raising the NPP bar slightly, since in practice it is a harder perm to get and I think there's benefit to saving time and saving new users the sting of rejection. But I also think it's reasonable to screen for CSD and AFD experience, since CSD and notability are such a big part of the NPP flowchart. Hope that makes sense. Feel free to open a bigger discussion about this, perhaps at WT:NPPR. Happy editing. – Novem Linguae (talk) 15:25, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your valuable input. On the CSD and AFD experience, I do not agree so much, but an advice from an editor who writes scripts like you together with your experience in NPP; might make some sense:). I'll evaluate a bit more on how to address the bar-raise, and then open a discussion at the WT:NPPR if no-one starts a discussion on it before me.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 16:23, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Suggestion
Hello, Novem Linguae! You might be interested in endorsing an essay in which creation I participated – WP:NOCONFED. Of course, this is just a suggestion, nothing more. Cheers! —  Sundostund  mppria  (talk / contribs) 02:15, 22 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Will take a look. – Novem Linguae (talk) 02:35, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for saving the day

 * Thanks @SandyGeorgia. It was nice working with you too. The coding was a lot of work, but I was happy to do it. Happy editing :) – Novem Linguae (talk) 20:12, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Non-Russian terms "unlikely etymology" of Russian terms?
Your edit on Gopnik commented: "seems unlikely that a non-Russian term was the etymology of a Russian term". Where do you think отель and ресторан and шофёр came from? The French words hôtel, restaurant, chauffeur. See Disinformation: "Defector Ion Mihai Pacepa claimed Joseph Stalin coined the term [дезинформация], giving it a French-sounding name to claim it had a Western origin." – •Raven .talk 05:35, 27 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey there. Thanks for the message. Your edit seemed a bit WP:REDFLAG to me and was uncited. Feel free to readd it with a citation to a reliable source such as a book, dictionary, or scholarly article. – Novem Linguae (talk) 11:42, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It wasn't MY edit you reverted. I comment merely to draw your attention to the phenomenon's not being "unlikely"; Russia borrows words from the West far more often than vice versa. Of course during much of its Imperial period, the nobility spoke French; rather like the Anglo-Norman nobility under the Plantagenet dynasty (causing many heraldic terms to still be Anglo-Norman French). And a higher proportion of modern Russians speak English, than of native English-speakers also speaking Russian. – •Raven .talk 05:27, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

List of Soaring Sky! Pretty Cure episodes
I would like a new page reviewer to review this page because someone keeps on redirecting to main page. Here is the link: List of Soaring Sky! Pretty Cure episodes Ckng9000 (talk) 14:51, 5 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ckng9000. Howdy. The page List of Soaring Sky! Pretty Cure episodes is marked as reviewed in the system. Should be all set for now. I also spot checked a few diffs and don't see any recent ones that have . If you'd like me to look into that more, feel free to provide a WP:DIFF. Thank you. – Novem Linguae  (talk) 19:54, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * it is this link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Soaring_Sky!_Pretty_Cure_episodes&redirect=no Ckng9000 (talk) 22:04, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah I see. I was looking at the wrong page (it redirected me). Is there some reason you keep trying to restore the page? The same episode list is contained at Soaring Sky! Pretty Cure, and that seems like a reasonable place for it. – Novem Linguae (talk) 22:12, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * We have created episode list new page for all Pretty Cure episodes and wanted to keep same format like this one from Delicious Party Pretty cure: List of Delicious Party Pretty Cure episodes Ckng9000 (talk) 22:17, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you for creating that ANI thread. I considered doing so last night, and resisted the urge mainly because 1) I was hoping the IP would stop making those edits, and 2) it was early morning for me and I wasn't in the best state of mind to create that kind of topic. I agree with you that their English is problematic to the point that I can't reliably grasp the meaning of their messages, and I don't trust a user who can't clearly communicate (and frankly, one who hasn't created an account) to be setting up auto-archiving, especially on a large scale...I'm not really sure auto-archiving should ever be a mass-edit; are there so many Talk pages that need it turned on so quickly? Doubtful, to me. Please let me know if you feel my leaving a message at the ANI thread would be useful; right now I think the IP's own comments aren't especially helping their case. I feel it might be premature to block them entirely, but they definitely need to know that they shouldn't be doing this type of work without better supervision and more clear communication. DonIago (talk) 13:18, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. I pretty much agree with everything you just said. If their English were better it'd be much easier to handle this because they could promise to stop making those edits, but their English is really hard to understand, to the point where they appear to be saying "yes I'll stop" and "no I won't stop" in the same paragraph. I'm scratching my head a bit. Perhaps outside perspectives will help. – Novem Linguae (talk) 13:30, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I'll keep an eye on the thread, and if more people don't chime in, I'll at least say that I think we need an unambiguous commitment from the IP to stop setting up Talk pages for auto-archiving without first discussing the matter and getting a consensus at the Talk page in question...which technically should be happening in every instance, but I admit I don't tend to make a fuss if it's being done by an editor who seems to know what they're doing. DonIago (talk) 14:32, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Untitled
i edited because there was nothing on that specific talk page Pastalavist (talk) 03:06, 11 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey there. Your edit wasn't particularly helpful. It had no punctuation, was bossing people around, wasn't discussing how to improve the page, and had no section heading. In that situation, it is probably best to leave the page blank. – Novem Linguae (talk) 03:16, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Good Topic promotion error message
Hello, and thank you so much for the FT/GT promotion bot! When I tried to use it to promote a topic yesterday, it threw an error message I haven't seen before. That article was titled with a redirect in the FT box in the nomination, so I fixed that and tried to call the bot again, but this time it just hasn't responded. Sorry to bother you, but is there something simple I need to fix to help the bot to handle this promotion correctly? I'd really love to not have to promote this 33-article topic manually! Thanks, again! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 21:22, 14 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey Bryan. Looks like one of the pages, Talk:2019 Q School (snooker), was moved/redirected, which confused the bot. Luckily it appears to be article 28 of 32, so the bot did a lot of the work already. Perhaps I will release a patch to have the bot do 2 passes. Pass 1 in read only mode and pass 2 in write mode. In the future, this would help change the workflow to "1) bring error to our attention, 2) fix error, 3) rerun bot", instead of the current workflow where the bot fails mid-run. I'll work on this a bit tonight and I'll let you know how it goes. – Novem Linguae (talk) 02:11, 15 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey Bryan. I wrote the patch mentioned above. In the future, if there is an error, the bot should fail before it edits any pages, giving us a chance to fix the error and then run the bot again. And it will now give a better error message if it finds an unexpected redirect. There's a trick to running the bot twice (you have to get rid of the old promote template, then put it back so it pings the bot, the bot is triggered by a ping, and the bot will also not do a run if there is a |done=yes promote template on the page). Anyway, we should have a good process now for the future. No more of these "partial runs" where it aborts in the middle. – Novem Linguae (talk) 20:33, 15 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for all your work on these tools! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 22:05, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. Happy to help :) – Novem Linguae (talk) 23:10, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Trouble activating the bot
The first time I've tried to use it since this interaction, it doesn't seem to be triggering? I added the template to Featured and good topic candidates/World Professional Match-play Championship/archive1 six hours ago, and the bot hasn't run yet; am I doing something wrong? Thanks for your help! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 18:07, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Bryanrutherford0. Hey there. Thanks for the message. Maybe I broke it when I did the last update. I'll take a look when I'm back at my desktop. – Novem Linguae (talk) 18:45, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like it was ping-related. I have tried re-pinging the bot. I think it'll work now. Bot should promote it within the hour. Feel free to post here if there's any further trouble. – Novem Linguae (talk) 17:00, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey, I posted the promotion template to Featured and good topic candidates/2005–06 Arsenal F.C. season/archive1 about five hours ago, and the bot doesn't seem to have fired. Thank you for your help! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 21:16, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Bryanrutherford0. All fixed. The bot has pretty good "explain to the user what the heck is tripping it up" capabilities, but there was a bug that was preventing the error message from printing on the archive page. I fixed the bug then finished the promotion. Should be all set. – Novem Linguae (talk) 22:46, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Red team
Hello, I'm Qwerfjkl (bot). I have automatically detected that this edit performed by you, on the page Red team, may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows: Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&preload=User:Qwerfjkl/Botpreload&editintro=User:Qwerfjkl/boteditintro&minor=&title=User_talk:Qwerfjkl&preloadtitle=Qwerfjkl%20(bot)%20–%20Qwerfjkl_(bot)&section=new report it to my operator]. Thanks, Qwerfjkl (bot) (talk) 21:31, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * A "missing title" error. References show this error when they do not have a title. Please edit the article to add the appropriate title parameter to the reference. ([//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_team&action=edit&minor=minor&summary=Fixing+reference+error+raised+by+%5B%5BUser%3AQwerfjkl%20(bot)%7CQwerfjkl%20(bot)%5D%5D Fix] | [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&preload=User:Qwerfjkl%20(bot)/helpform&preloadtitle=Referencing%20errors%20on%20%5B%5BSpecial%3ADiff%2F1156437623%7CRed%20team%5D%5D Ask for help])


 * – Novem Linguae (talk) 03:38, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

My first GAN
I submitted my first GAN today. It is located at Red team. Reviewers would be most welcome :) – Novem Linguae (talk) 13:07, 25 May 2023 (UTC)