User talk:Nowa

Feel free to leave a message.--Nowa (talk) 15:12, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I have appreciated your thoughtful editing on the International Churches of Christ page. I am a recent editor and have tried to contribute to improving the article by a careful consideration of WP policies and how they apply, in particular, to the third paragraph in the Lead. The topic of the recent court cases in the Lead and the body of the article has been something that both you and I have commented about on the Talk page. The administrator, Cordless Larry, who has taken a keen interest in policing the article has taken the position that I have a conflict of interest because I am a member of a church congregation that has a relationship with the ICOC even though I have no financial relationship with the church as explained in my response to his COI claim. I dispute his COI position, but would like to continue having input to improve the article until my status is cleared up. I noticed that the administrator noted that your efforts to Request for Comments about the Singapore court case was unofficial because your post failed to follow the specific WP policies on RfC. I am wondering about entering on the Talk page an appropriate RfC that is compliant with WP policies about the court cases specifically. You appear to be more experienced than I on the RfC process, so I’m wondering if you could assist me in making an appropriate RfC about the recent court cases that complies with WP policies so that a consensus on this question among other editors could be attempted? Meta Voyager (talk) 00:49, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. I honestly think it's a bit early for an RfC on the issue of the court cases.  There is a lot more cleanup that needs to be done first on the article as a whole.  Once we do that we may find that it's a lot easier to reach consensus on the lawsuits, particularly in the lede.  Also, for the record, I've never done an actual RfC. Nowa (talk) 18:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks like now might be a good time for the RfC. Feel free to set one up and I'll participate. Nowa (talk) 12:17, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Wiki - Rodney - Wiki method for reducing incidence of copywrite infringement using LLM
I've been experimenting with ways to reduce copywrite infringement when using large language models (e.g., GPT-4) to draft Wikipedia articles. A process that shows promise is:

1. Feed the combined texts of all of the references into a large language model (LLM) that has a large enough token limit, such as GPT-4 32k, so that it can read in all of the text and draft the article. For an example of the output of this first step, see User:Nowa/Floyd wiki 1. The corresponding file of with the reference texts is User:Nowa/Floyd RS. Unfortunately, this example wiki 1 version has a one or more copyright violations. See User talk:Nowa/Floyd wiki 1

2. Instruct the LLM to redraft the wiki 1 article in a style very different from Wikipedia. In this case the style was used for the redraft was that of the comedian Rodney Dangerfield. See User:Nowa/Floyd Rodney for how it turned out. The article was completely rewritten so that there were no copyright violations that I could see. The tone of the article, however, was no longer encyclopedic.

3. Instruct the LLM to rewrite the "Rodney" version of the article back into the style of Wikipedia. See User:Nowa/Floyd wiki Rodney wiki for how this turned out. This version appears to be free of copywrite violations, has an encyclopedic tone, and has information supported by the references. It has somewhat less information than the original wiki 1 version of the article, but subsequent editors can add more detail from the RS if needed.

I welcome candid comments on this method including possibilities for improving it. Nowa (talk) 12:18, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * It seems the final draft still suffers from WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE: from https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/08/26/who-is-harrison-floyd-trump-co-defendant-and-black-voices-for-trump-leader-still-in-fulton-county-jail/: the only one of 18 co-defendants in former President Donald Trump’s election interference case in Fulton County to
 * Also: please be aware that New York Post is an unreliable source. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:27, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Argh, you are rights. Too close of a paraphrase.  Really intriguing actually.  My personal experience is that if I read a sentence, and then write what I think I read, it rarely, if ever, comes out the same.  LLMs, on the other hand seemed to be sucked into repeating exactly what's in their input.  Makes me wonder if this property might be used to detect LLM output?  But in the meantime, I'll have to give more thought to minimizing close paraphrase.
 * Right now in my sandbox you can see the result of first drafting in Japanese and then translating into English. Some progress, but still close paraphrasing.  Also, the quotes for RS were slightly modified.

Nowa (talk) 03:56, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

WP:RSNP
"There is consensus that Ad Fontes Media and their Media Bias Chart should not be used in article space in reference to sources' political leaning or reliability. Editors consider it a self-published source and have questioned its methodology." Doug Weller talk 14:25, 28 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the clarification. Can you provide a link to the discussion? Never mind.  I found the listing in the link above. Nowa (talk) 14:41, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

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