User talk:Nownownow

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BCE/CE
I am concerned about your vendetta against the use of BCE and CE. It doesn't make you more Christian to use BC and AD. Really, for an encyclopedia, we should be using terms that apply to everyone. When I'm in a class and I'm taking notes, I'll write down BC or AD even when the dates are given as BCE or CE. But that is my personal preference. I understand that the dates must be given in this form in order to be sensitive to other's beliefs. You should understand this too. It also doesn't make much sense trying to enforce a Christian dating system on an article about Korea. If the article was on Catholicism or something like that, I would be a little more understanding. I'm not trying to be rude or a pest. I just think that I am acting in the best interest of Wikipedia. Feel free to respond on my talk page if you have any questions. Illinois2011 20:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The issue at hand has less to do with religious sensitivity and more to do with avoiding disruption of the encyclopedia. Taken from the Manual of Style:

''Either CE and BCE or AD and BC can be used—spaced, undotted (without periods) and upper-case. Choose either the BC-AD or the BCE-CE system, but not both in the same article. AD appears before or after a year (AD 1066, 1066 AD); the other abbreviations appear after (1066 CE, 3700 BCE, 3700 BC). The absence of such an abbreviation indicates the default, CE-AD. It is inappropriate for a Wikipedia editor to change from one style to another unless there is some substantial reason for the change; the Manual of Style favors neither system over the other.''

With that said, it is acceptable to change an article to make it internally consistent, e.g. an article that mixes BC/AD and BCE/CE can be modified to use one format or the other exclusively. It is inappropriate, however, to wholly alter an article from one style to the other without providing reasoning on the talk page. Please reconsider your approach here; I'm afraid that you'll be wasting a lot of effort with edits that will be mostly reverted. Daniel C/T+ 16:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

As another heads up on this topic, in cases where there is mixed usage, in many cases one form or the other is preferred; articles on Christianity and Western Europe seem to prefer BC/AD, whereas articles on Asian topics generally use BCE/CE. It's a good idea to go with the majority (note that sometimes in this case BC or CE are incorrectly written B.C. or C.E.), or check with the project page linked from the article's talk page, if there is one, to see if there is a preferred dating system. --Clay Collier (talk) 09:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Please cease and desist from your practice of making wholesale changes to the established dating style of articles. It is a violation of WP:SEASON to switch the style adopted for a particular article. Hertz1888 (talk) 21:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case
You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Suspected sock puppets/Carnun for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 07:48, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Indef blocked
You have been indefinitely blocked as a sockpuppet of User:Carnun. --BorgQueen (talk) 18:31, 20 December 2007 (UTC)