User talk:Nposs/Music 250/Baka music EDIT

Changes that need to be made
i think Ibrahim's info on water drums should go under the instruments section.--Jdoherty7 (talk) 15:40, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

also, we need to make all of our sections in paragraph form. i think o4mustang's info is the only one that needs to be changed. --Jdoherty7 (talk) 16:07, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

So we need a final draft today. Wondering how as a group we're going to get it done by tonight?--128.146.99.121 (talk) 16:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Suggested reading
Michelle Kisliuk is the primary scholar of Baka music. Her book Seize the dance! is probably the most comprehensive source of information. You are encouraged to find other scholarly articles and books as well as web resources.

Kisliuk, Michelle (Author). "Performance and modernity among BaAka pygmies: A closer look at the mystique of egalitarian foragers in the rain forest." 2000.

Kisliuk, Michelle Robin (Author). Seize the dance! BaAka musical life and the ethnography of performance. New York: Oxford University Press (NY) New York, NY, U.S.A., 1998.

Kisliuk's web resources --Nposs (talk) 19:03, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Rhalas23... search the internets. Puja521...web address Jdoherty7...seize the dance book 04Mustang... instruments and compositions Ibrahim.57... seize the dance book Jacobsen33.... Performance and Modernity among Baka pygmies.... maybe religion based music —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdoherty7 (talk • contribs) 22:49, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Draft review
It seems like this article has a good framework in place, but it is lacking content in most of the sections. The introduction should go at the top of the article without a heading. (Check other music articles linked on the music 250 page for examples). The dance and vocal (should be retitled Vocal music) sections are very thin. The instruments section is good, but needs better organization. The references look good. Also, there is poor integration of the text. Each contributor is using a different style and formatting. This needs to be agreed upon and fixed. Other points:
 * Remove your editorial comments and signatures. These belong on the discussion page, not in the article itself.
 * You might think about adding an External Links section as there are on other articles.
 * Wikify the text (that is, put in appropriate links to other wikipedia articles. See WP:LINK for details)
 * Put in references if you haven't done so already. WP:CITE has general information about how to do it. Here http://toolserver.org/~magnus/makeref.php is a link to an online reference template generator. Enter the details of the reference and it will output the correct wikicode to paste into the article.
 * External links? Images? See WP:FIT. I think Kisliuk's website http://chnm.gmu.edu/worldhistorysources/analyzing/music/analyzingmusicintro.html is especially good.

You can use this section for further discussion. Nposs (talk) 16:21, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

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planing to do the music histroy of BAKA people and the seize da dance book which jd already ordere..... here are some links..... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baka_(Cameroon_and_Gabon) http://www.everyculture.com/Bo-Co/Cameroon.html thebakatribe.com/aboutus.aspx ****

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuSVTHTbsGg baka kids singing ****

POSSIBLE OUTLINE: 1. Introduction 2. Dance 3. Voice 4. Instruments

4.1 Cylindrical drums 4.2 Arched Harp 4.3 Harp-Zither 4.4 Lamellaphones 4.5 Rattles 4.6 Flute 4.7 Water drums 4.8 Musical Bow

5. Composition 6. Community

I like the idea of the outline so far. A good site of reference that I've found is http://www.pygmies.info/ it goes through some of the different instruments, and other aspects of life as well. For the things that were added in the beginning, we shouldn't just quote different sources put we should at least elaborate more on them.Jacobsen33 (talk) 17:40, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I like the outline too. --Puja521 (talk) 23:30, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Dont have a whole lot to say. I was thinkin about adding a little backround about the Baka or Pygmie people.--Rhalas23 (talk) 19:04, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I will talk about the HISTORY of BAka People, Dance, Music and Instruments...... http://www.baka.co.uk/baka/bakamsc.htm This link might help the people who are doing the introduction, instruments and more..... **** —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdoherty7 (talk • contribs) 15:34, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Are we still going to use the outline that talks about certain instruments individually? I think it's still a good idea. Jacobsen33 (talk) 19:21, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I think we should too. At least on the instruments that we have information on. Have you found stuff on all the instruments Rhalas?--Jdoherty7 (talk) 15:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)