User talk:Nposs/Music 250/Suyá music EDIT

Suggested readings
Below is a suggested list of readings. Record 6 is a short book by Tony Seeger and is the most authoritative work on Suyá music. You are encouraged to find your own sources of information, including scholarly books and articles, as well as web resources.

A globalization from a local perspective in Brazil: The Suyá Indians and música sertaneja ( Main Record ) By: Seeger, Anthony. Collected Work: Musical cultures of Latin America: Global effects, past and present. Published in: United States. Publication Date: 2003. Language: English. Abstract available. (AN: 2003-01768)

Record: 2 annahayes

Brazil's indigenous universe (to ca. 1990): The Xavante, Kamayurá, and Suyá ( Main Record ) By: Travassos, Elizabeth. Collected Work: Music in Latin America and the Caribbean: An encyclopedic history. I: Performing beliefs--Indigenous peoples of South America, Central America, and Mexico. Published in: United States. Publication Date: 2004. Language: English. (AN: 2004-07219)

Record: 3 anna

Music in Latin America and the Caribbean: An encyclopedic history. I: Performing beliefs--Indigenous peoples of South America, Central America, and Mexico ( Main Record ) By: Kuss, Malena. Publisher: University of Texas. Published in: United States. Publication Date: 2004 . Language: English. Abstract available. (AN: 2004-07214)

Record: 4 eddie e.loomis

Sing for your sister: The structure and performance of Suyá akia ( Main Record ) By: Seeger, Anthony. Collected Work: A century of ethnomusicological thought. Publication Date: 1990. Language: English. Abstract available. (AN: 1990-02283)

Record: 5 rachel wickizer.4

Suyá ( Main Record ) By: Seeger, Anthony. Collected Work: The Garland encyclopedia of world music. II: South America, Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean. Published in: United States. Publication Date: 1998. Language: English. Abstract available. (AN: 1999-22922)

Record: 6 rachel

Why Suyá sing: A musical anthropology of an Amazonian people ( Main Record ) By: Seeger, Anthony. Series: Cambridge studies in ethnomusicology. Publisher: Cambridge University Press. Published in: United Kingdom. Publication Date: 1987. Language: English. Abstract available. (AN: 1987-05422)

adam goodall.24

--Nposs (talk) 19:02, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Group Assignments

 * Intro: Anna
 * I will be creating the encyclopedia type of introduction for the Suya Indian music. I plan on using the sources that were recommended and a couple of outside sources that I have found in the library and internet.--Annahayes (talk) 19:37, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Suyá people of Brazil teach boys how to sing certain songs as part of their initiation
 * Almost all Suya music is vocal --Annahayes (talk) 20:00, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Musical History: Michael
 * Source Why Suyá sing: a musical anthropology of an Amazonian people By Anthony Seeger
 * Cultural History: Rachel
 * source-Suyá ( Main Record ) By: Seeger, Anthony. Collected Work: The Garland encyclopedia of world music. II: South America, Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean. Published in: United States. Publication Date: 1998 . Language: English. Abstract available. (AN: 1999-22922)--Wickizer.4 (talk) 01:56, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * research so far- There is not many archaeological or ethnographic records extending back before 1884 because little cultural material can be preserved in the humid tropics, and most materials used were organic. However, the ethnographic evidence that does exist claims that they made a long journy from a territory more than 1,100 kilometers to the northeast, fleeing and fighting enemies in the 1700's to early 1800's. Today they live in a single village of about two hundred inhabitants on the banks of the Suiá-Miçu River.  They speak a language belonging the northern branch of the Gê language family.  They hunt, fish, gather supplies, and trade with frontier settlements to get their basic needs.  Their myths claim that, although the Suyá society always existed, in the beginning the people had no fire, no names, no garden crops, no lip-disc ornaments, and few songs. They acquired fire from the jaguar, garden crops from the mouse, lip discs from enemy Indians, names from a cannibal people living under the ground, and songs from all of those.  In the Suya community they believe that food must be cooked, body ornaments are significant markers of age and status, and names are central to the definition of who a person is and the groups to which he or she belongs.
 * Hey don't forget to sign in when you make posts to the actual page, it just shows your IP address. (Just don't want you to lose any credit when Mr. Poss looks at the work done) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Annahayes (talk • contribs) 16:44, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Religious Influence: Adam
 * I'll be researching the history of the Suya people and their music. --Osidemike (talk) 19:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Instruments:Carla
 * I will be researching the Instruments the Suya people used 4321carla (talk) 00:06, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Structure/Performance: Eddie
 * I will be using "Music in Latin America and the Caribbean: An encyclopedic history. I: Performing beliefs--Indigenous peoples of South America, Central America, and Mexico" and "Sing for your sister: The structure and performance of Suyá akia" among other sources, to find information on the structure and performances in Suyá music. --E.Loomis (talk) 20:37, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Instruments:Carla
 * I will be researching the Instruments the Suya people used 4321carla (talk) 00:06, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Structure/Performance: Eddie
 * I will be using "Music in Latin America and the Caribbean: An encyclopedic history. I: Performing beliefs--Indigenous peoples of South America, Central America, and Mexico" and "Sing for your sister: The structure and performance of Suyá akia" among other sources, to find information on the structure and performances in Suyá music. --E.Loomis (talk) 20:37, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I will be using "Music in Latin America and the Caribbean: An encyclopedic history. I: Performing beliefs--Indigenous peoples of South America, Central America, and Mexico" and "Sing for your sister: The structure and performance of Suyá akia" among other sources, to find information on the structure and performances in Suyá music. --E.Loomis (talk) 20:37, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

First draft review
Here are some notes for everyone:
 * Make sure you are consistent in using Suyá rather than Suya (without the accent)
 * Remove your signatures from the article itself (signatures only need to be used on discussion pages)
 * I've put the introduction at the head of the article, but make sure the first sentence begins with Suyá music in bold (like the beginning of the [Arabic article]
 * The instruments in Suya music needs to have the references incorporated into the text (not just floating at the end.
 * If you find a worthwhile extrnal link or two, add it, otherwise remove the section.
 * Can anyone find any free-to-use photos to add? (Here is a link to information on what sources are acceptable: WP:FIT)
 * There is some redundancy between the intro and the first paragraph of the Musical history section.
 * I would suggest putting cultural history before musical history.
 * Structure/performance section might be retitled to Vocal music or Vocal genres.

Overall, the article is very good. Just do some extra proofreading and tidy things up. One important task it to "wikify" your article. Please read WP:LINK. This will explain how to link important words in the article to other existing articles on Wikipedia. For example, you want the first instance of Suyá people to be link to the original [Suyá people] article. The same goes for other important terminology.

Second, try to find some images, or at least some a map to add. See WP:FIT for more info. I will leave individual comments on your respective talk pages. I think the article is off to a great start. You might want to use this section of the talk page to discuss the proposed fixes. Nposs (talk) 14:30, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * On my talk page Nick told me to put the Cultural History article on the main Suyá people article and link it to the Suyá music page. I went ahead and put my entire article on the Suyá people page like he suggested, and on the Suyá music page in its place I’ve written a short summery and linked it to the larger article.Wickizer.4 (talk) 21:25, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Who added the section on music instruments?
They weren't signed in and only the IP address was recorded.