User talk:Nrswanson/Archive 3

Thank you
I apologize for my now-deleted (thankfully!) comments to you and thank you for approving the hook. I'm glad you liked it. I hope to see more of you at DYK in the future now that this issue has been clarified. Daniel Case (talk) 03:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Mathis der Maler
Hi, I'm looking forward to the new Bass (voice type) article! In WikiProject Opera/Key article improvement you wrote "Needs... a synopsis re-write that reflects the structure of the opera." The opera is "in seven scenes"; producers tend to make their own decisions about where to put intermissions, although I supose one could figure out how this was done at the premiere. Or did you mean something altogether different? Sparafucil (talk) 05:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Firstly ... pleased to see your efforts on DYK verification. I particularly like how you say "yes but not a great article". Nice to see opinion.

However, I wondered if there was a reason why you did not choose the double nom for "... that Pakistani actress Maria Wasti played a role depicting philanthropist and Lenin Peace Prize winner Bilquis Edhi?" As far as I can see from here no one found a good ref for the Peace Prize, I couldnt find one (the one offered led nowhere). If you had just highlighted Bilquis Edhi then it would have acknowledged the new article. If its an oversight then obviously no prob .... but should it be proposed again? BQ thinks so... any thoughts? Victuallers (talk) 15:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thx for the point about the source however I still feel that DYK should credit this work. The overlooked source is only one issue - we also missed the chance of a double nom that had been checked by Daniel Case. Changing this unsourced single nom to a sourced double nom would have increased the quality and quantity of the hooks. So I have taken BorgQueens advice and renominated. However ... do keep up the good work. mistakes happen. Victuallers (talk) 16:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Stonerose Interpretive Center and Fossil Site
Thank you for the DYK comments and thumbs up. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:56, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Reggie Ingle and DYK
The missing facts have now been cited (plus one other that I thought needed a citation). Over to you. Thanks. Johnlp (talk) 20:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Image:Brian Setzer performs with his orchestra in the East Room of the White House.jpg
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Ancient vocal method and voice articles needing attention
Do you want to deal with Ancient vocal method, Vibrato, Bass, Sopranist, Timbre, and Vocal technique - these all have multiple tags - see the Cleanup list - or would you prefer me to ask for volunteers on the project? Regards. -- Klein zach  00:28, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Baritenor Article?
Hi. What happened with the decision on the Baritenor Article? -WikiWes77 (talk) 18:57, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Mozart's operas
This is now at FLC. It has so far attracted only limited attention, concerned with commas, full stops and minor style questions. It badly needs some informed comment about its content and utility. The list provoked some interest when it first appeared; it would be very helpful if you could spare a minute or two to leave a comment at FLC. Thanks. Brianboulton (talk) 19:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Avoiding banner spam
Hi. I wonder if we can avoid multiple bannering of articles with your new Music Theory banner? As you will know, I've been putting a lot of work into organizing the classical music articles with a minimum of project overlap. I'd really prefer not to see a new proliferation of banners especially from a project that (as yet) only has one member. Your idea of having a Music Theory project is a good one, but I think it needs to be directed towards writing and editing articles not creating even more banner spam than already exists. OK? Regards. -- Klein zach  03:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Multiple banner spam is an issue. The Classical Music banner does not go on any pages with other Classical Music banners. We've spent several weeks getting this organized. Please concentrate on explaining your ideas on the other music project talk pages. Banner spam won't legitimize a project that is not yet established. -- Klein zach  03:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * OK. First I suggest you remove the banners. (It's far too early to go ahead with this.) -- Klein zach  04:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Also you should consider turning the project into a Classical Music task force. This will significantly reduce the amount of work involved. -- Klein zach  04:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Where there is no existing banner there's no problem. For the others I have rollback so I'll revert them. -- Klein zach  04:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I see you have been deleting Music Project banners - that's really inviting problems. I'm intending to make some proposals about bannering to the Music Project - unilaterally taking things into your own hands really will make it all much more difficult. -- Klein zach  04:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

OK. Let me explain. Do you remember the stats I posted on the Opera Project? If you have a look at them you'll see that the Arts Project doesn't banner, but the Music Project does, albeit inadequately. I'm intending to propose that the Music Project removes its banners and becomes an umbrella/portal-supporting project like Arts. That will be the first stage in reforming the music article structure. -- Klein zach  04:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Music Project proposals
I've posted here. Best. -- Klein zach  01:04, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

My talk, Josh Groban talk
After looking at Talk page guidelines on editing others' comments, I need to check something with you. Mostly due to our misunderstanding, I used strikes and [inserted words] on Talk:Josh Groban and that section on my talk page. Is what I did okay with you? --WikiWes77 (talk) 02:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:3RR
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. --Ave Caesar (talk) 00:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Kathleen Battle
Thank your for your message. It's difficult for me to see what's been happening on this page, but edit warring is bad. Anyway I will write something on the Kathleen Battle talk page. Best regards. -- Klein zach  00:33, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Apotactics
Thanks for suggesting civility--it's always a good thing in Wikipedia. I would appreciate specific suggestions on how you think I can or should have been more civil or less bite-y. I honestly believe I posted civil responses which directly addressed the deficiencies in the AfD, and did not call the integrity or competence of the nominator into question any more than is inherent in criticizing the AfD as entirely inconsistent with policy. So, you have an open invitation to critique my wording and phrasing in the messages I posted to the AfD. Be as specific as you want, and suggest alternate wordings or approaches that you believe would have improved the outcome. I will incorporate your feedback into future responses to what I perceive to be inadequately justified AfDs. Thanks! 01:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Dee Dee Bridgewater 2005.jpg
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question on restoring archive
I see your points, nrswansson. Since both our ideas (and others) are on recorded on the talkpage, I would like to request that perhaps both of us be sure to seek CONSENSUS before doing something major like moving information from the talk page to the archives. ok? I don't know how to restore information that was put into archives? How is that done? Hrannar (talk) 21:48, 12 August 2008 (UTC)Hrannar

Category:Arts administrators
The category you wrote, Category:Arts administrators, is uncategorized. Please help improve it by adding it to one or more categories, so it may be associated with related categories. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Suspension idea
An interesting idea but I am afraid that is a violation of wikipedia policy. Talk pages are public forum pages and must remain open for editing. Editors may also choose to bring up issues about this page un-related to the firing and need a place to do it. Archiving is the standard practice here. If you like we can take this to Kleinzach but I think he would agree with me. Also we can simply add a link to the archives at the new discussion page so they can read them easily for comment. Everyone there will understand because most wikipedia editors are used to archives and how they work. Nobody will accuse you of lying or anything like that because the record will be there. Nrswanson (talk) 23:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow. I left the info all to see and put a note at the top, per YOUR CONCERN, to have people hold the discussion on the notice board. Your taking action without concensus, of your own accord, seems ironic to me. Furthermore, you have now made several accusations about me on the talk page. Since it seems like a breech of civility, I will consult with an adminstrator.Hrannar (talk) 13:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Hrannar

Archiving a persons request for help
I would not have moved your request for help on your own talk page, so I request that you do not do so on mine. I requested help advice on a very specific thing that was done on the Kathleen Battle talk that I believe is not appropriate. If I am wrong, the administrator will tell me so. Please allow the wikipedia administrators and helpers to do their job, even if you do not agree with me. People disagree and that is fine. If I am in the wrong, I will be told. 20:43, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Hrannar

Expiring noms
I reverted your changes at Next update. There is no hurry to promote expiring noms, since approved hooks are not deleted until they have been promoted in any case. Gatoclass (talk) 05:13, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * That's okay, no problem :) Gatoclass (talk) 05:16, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Images
I've commented on your request.  Ty  08:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Battle
I'll try and get round to it eventually but I'm caught up in lots of other stuff at the moment and it looks pretty complicated. Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 08:49, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Altino
SORRY, Nothing personal, and I did not imply that you are POV pushing, just something to guard against when experts are involved. After seeing this Yahoo Group I suspect that even countertenors is disputed by some sources :-). Why not consider moving altino to tenor altino and disambiguate? Annette46 (talk) 08:54, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:George_Na'ope.jpg listed for deletion
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Yeah

 * hello, could I ask you a few questions? I need your help on something. I didn't see any other way to reach you than on this. Overmoon (talk) 00:33, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * fine, emailing you. Overmoon (talk) 01:01, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * did you get it? Overmoon (talk) 01:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I was going to elaborate in a second letter. why are you this tedious? this is why I think wikipedia is overrun with some people who are really not that pleasant. I don't mind sending another email with details, since you want them so fast. Overmoon (talk) 02:07, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * did you get that email? I still have received no emails from you. I will answer your email with another but I have to get it first. Overmoon (talk) 02:19, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * you haven't said anything that I didn't already know or concur with. I don't have a lot of choice when you and others won't realize the errors you are making. Overmoon (talk) 03:44, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks, especially as I am not exactly "flavour of the month" over at BON! -- Klein zach  01:24, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Olympics

 * you guys are not doing a good job. this needs to still say Olympics in it as well. is there a reason you are not addressing the issues brought up? Thunderstruck45 (talk) 03:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * here, see if you can follow my arguments. I am not being critical or arrogant. I think there are too many hotheads on here. however you guys, not necessarily you included aren't listening.


 * one, stabbing is inappropiate. see if you can change that right away. I was trying to do a softedit and move the page to one that said that. two, the arguments being made are terrible. three, certain people are making this a personal crusade and they are on the wrong side. look how fast Kevellis is to reply to anything that questions his actions. Palacelord008 is also in error. I don't know why only two guys can take over a matter so efficiently. Overmoon (talk) 03:58, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Your moving questioned Bedford nomination to DYK next update
I think you are wrong to move it. Did you check the Talk page discussion and its pointer to previous discussion? doncram (talk) 04:26, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Update
Why are you still adding hooks to the update? I already informed you that there is an inuse tag on the template. Gatoclass (talk) 05:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem, anyone can add in general, but when there is an inuse tag it means someone is still working on the update. I will remove the tag when I've finished. Gatoclass (talk) 05:44, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Er, good point, I guess that article should be delinked until the AFD is resolved, otherwise we might end up with a red link on the front page. Gatoclass (talk) 05:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Articles are supposed to be removed from the suggestions page when they are promoted. Who is leaving them there? Gatoclass (talk) 06:13, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a different article. Someone is writing a whole bunch of articles on papal enclaves, you have to check the dates. Gatoclass (talk) 06:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

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Opera banner
Hi. I wonder if you can use. Stub is and start is. If we just use the article may be missed in bot runs. Best. -- Klein zach  22:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't think you should regard a stub as an assessment. Anyone starting a short article should put a stub tag on it to acknowledge that the article needs more work, and by implication, invite other people to contribute to it. If you leave off the stub it just creates a boring, routine bureaucratic job for some one else to do (i.e. usually me!). -- Klein zach  01:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Your additions to the Mascagni page
Hi, I reverted a couple of times the changes to the Mascagni page that you just made today. I know that the Stanford page about opera composers mentions the three operas you listed (Zilia, Scampolo, and I Bianchi ed i Neri), but Mascagni composed none of them. There is no evidence that he did: there is no score, no letter that I know of, and no mention in any book I have read about Mascagni (and I have pretty much every book about Mascagni that was ever printed ).Ebruchez (talk) 23:20, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages with only two entries
I noticed your creation of the disambiguation page Peter Wishart (disambiguation), but it turns out that a disambiguation page is not actually needed in this case. Since there are only two people by the name "Peter Wishart" currently (Peter Wishart and Peter Wishart (composer)), all that needs to be done is have a link from Peter Wishart to Peter Wishart (composer).

This, however, is assuming that the person currently located at Peter Wishart is the primary topic for all persons with that name. As you are likely more familiar than I, do either of the people clearly assert more prominence than the other? If not, there there isn't a primary topic, and what should be done is move the person currently at "Peter Wishart" to "Peter Wishart (qualifier)", perhaps Peter Wishart (politician). Then, the page "Peter Wishart" would become the disambiguation page.

Hopefully that was a semi-clear description of the deal; if you can consider whether or not there is a primary topic, I'll gladly help everything get sorted out. -- Nataly a 16:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your thoughts. It could perhaps be brought up at Talk:Peter Wishart, to see if those there (in a hopefully unbiased fashion) have any reason to believe he is more notable than the composer by the same name. -- Nataly a  03:57, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

More about your additions to the Mascagni page
I contacted Roger Flury, estimated librarian who wrote the book "Pietro Mascagni and his Operas", for his input about this. He and Alan Mallach represent the state of the art of the modern research on Pietro Mascagni. I am happy to put you in touch with them if you have interest. The bottom line: the titles of the three operas mentioned, Zilia, Scampolo, and I Bianchi e i Neri, are in fact found in literature about Mascagni. Mascagni, as a teenager, wrote sketches for Zilia. The opera was never completed, and some music may have ended up into Guglielmo Ratcliff, but we don't know that for a fact. Scampolo was mentioned in a contract with Sonzogno, but was never composed. I Bianchi e i Neri was mentioned in a letter, but was never composed.

It would be ok to mention these three titles as projects that Mascagni contemplated during his life (you will find that there were more such projects). However, they don't belong in the list of works produced by the composer.

Now if somebody is able to point to a serious reference (letter) showing that any of those was more than a project, then that certainly will be an exciting discovery worth mentioning. But the fact remains that at the moment, we cannot consider any of these three operas as being works by Pietro Mascagni. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebruchez (talk • contribs) 17:51, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Next steps about the changes to the Mascagni page
Ok, I have created a new sections in the list of works for projects that Mascagni contemplated but never actually completed. I believe that's the right place for Zilia, Scampolo, and I Bianchi e i Neri. I also believe that in order for those to be promoted to the level of actual works created by Mascagni, very strong references are needed, as the world's top Mascagni experts like Flury and Mallach do not recognize them as such.Ebruchez (talk) 18:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikiproject Music Theory
Hey, joined up on the project... contact me if theres anything you need. PwnerELITE (talk) 06:27, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Stanford OperaGlass
Hi. As you've seen, I've just gone through the new opera articles - a chore I'm doing for Voce while she is away. On the basis of what I've seen I'm wondering whether the Stanford OperaGlass info is reliable enough for us to use. Up to now GT, Folantin, I and Voce have used Grove, Oxford and Viking all of which have proved reliable for starting articles. Is there any chance you can get one of these books? (Grove is the best incidentally.) Best. -- Klein zach  02:01, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * One thing I'd recommend - when you cite Grove, I'd put the author of the article e.g.:


 * Steane, J B (1992), 'Erismena' in The New Grove Dictionary of Opera, ed. Stanley Sadie (London) ISBN 0-333-73432-7


 * Best. -- Klein zach  09:49, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD protocol
I found out by accident that your placed my article on Bruce McAbee up for AfD discussion. In future, please notify the author of any article being submitted for AfD discussion that the article has been presented for possible removal from the site. Thank you. Ecoleetage (talk) 14:27, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I am requesting the withdrawal of this nomination. Your opinion of the merit of Mr. McAbee's work is irrelevant to the notability of the article. Ecoleetage (talk) 14:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, you are offering personal opinions about the merits of the subject work, the size of the scholarship, etc. That is not relevant to Wikipedia standards. The article passes WP:N (along with WP:BIO, WP:RS and WP:V). Ecoleetage (talk) 15:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, we have to agree to disagree. WP:BLP doesn't give you the right to stick personal opinions into considerations on the merits of one's career and etc. Ecoleetage (talk) 15:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Beyond Bruce McAbee
Hey, it appears that we have common ground beyond our raucous AfD brawl on Bruce McAbee -- we both belong to Opera WikiProject. We ought to work together on some opera-related articles. Personally, I would like to see more on Dicapo Opera. What are you interested in expanding or pursuing? Let me know if you are up for a collaboration -- if anything, it will confuse the hell out of the folks watching us rumble! :) Ecoleetage (talk) 03:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK

 * Hey, congratulations on this! Good job! Ecoleetage (talk) 00:06, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Naturally, I wish we met under more cordial circumstances. But like those opera-loving Corleone family members are fond of saying: it's nothing personal, it's strictly business.  I take no offence at your AfD.  And, anyway, this would be a crashingly dull site if everyone was in total agreement on all subjects. Ecoleetage (talk) 00:15, 29 August 2008 (UTC)



Ecoleetage (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Suspected sock puppets/Crashingthewaves
Was home sick today; dial-up at home. Seems I missed it, but it was pretty cut-and-dry. Thanks for your efforts in this matter. I had yesterday reverted the sockpuppet's rename/move and protected the article from new/unregistered users so that any new accounts created (by the sockpuppetmaster or otherwise) would not be able to disrupt for a while. Thanks again! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 23:56, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Next update
Don't mind at all. Any idea how we might contact an admin to flip the next update so we can put this in real space? Cbl62 (talk) 17:40, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll take care of it. Give me a couple minutes, I have to remind myself of the rules. :)  Mango juice talk 18:00, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks. Heh.  Someone should really write an automatic tool for doing this, it's a lot of cutting & pasting.  :)   Mango juice talk 18:23, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for helping to push this along.Cbl62 (talk) 18:48, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Can you take a look at this, please?
Hello again! Sorry to bother, but can you please review the August 28 DYK entry for Czesława Kwoka? It appears someone is trying to deny the entry based on "unwritten rules" that do not appear to be part of the official DYK policy. If the entry passes, as per the actual official DYK rules, can you please verify that entry? Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 18:42, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Please let me know if there is anything I can do for you. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for wikifying the Battle Article, Nrswanson!
From what I can tell, wikify means to create the proper links. I am more a content person and am not fully fluent in the wiki code stuff. I am learning and am learning from you in that regard. Thanks again! Hrannar (talk) 23:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC)Hrannar

DYK
Could you take a look at Gvat DYK nomination once again. I've fixed web page titles. Thank you. M0RD00R (talk) 19:31, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Just reviewed by another user. Thanks for your input anyway. Cheers. M0RD00R (talk) 20:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

RS. I guess the sources of the hook were put on question. In that case I've just added book by major publisher (Routledge) referncing the same fact. Or maybe there are any other issues that should be addressed at Gvat article? Cheers. M0RD00R (talk) 22:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * p.162 "Communal memorial groves were planted in pre-State Israel as early as the 1930s, such as that found on the outskirts of Kibbutz Gvat, in memory of the martyred Jews of Pinsk for whom the Kibbutz was named". This page is not visible from the link for some reason (which shows the p.163 of the book, although if you browse one page up (to p.162) you'll see highlighted quote. Cheers. M0RD00R (talk) 22:38, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:. May I ask what other sources you're finding unreliable? I could try to improve it. M0RD00R (talk) 22:49, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Kathleen Battle frame format and the repeated year
About the year in Kathleen Battle's, I deleted the “repeated year” after fixing the frame about 45 mins hour ago, like how I did to all other recordings frame (Including all the “Selected recordings” + Discographies such as Pelléas et Mélisande discography, The Flying Dutchman discography, Plácido Domingo discography and many other). I do not see why we should have the same year one after another unless if they are not in the frame format. BTW, I am fixing the frame formats but have to stop for a while because you are still adding the list in Recitals, Concerts, aria and song collection. I will do it after you're done. I have fixed the format in Choral and symphonic and Complete operas. I also added the conductor full name, etc in both two sections. Try to avoid writing too long because it doesnt look nice for non-wide screen PCs or laptops. - Jay (talk)
 * I have done adjusting the format - Jay (talk) 04:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK!
Thank you for your contributions, and Happy Editing! - Mailer Diablo 19:31, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Madama Butterfly - Yamadori's voice range
I believe your input is needed here at Madama Butterfly talkpage - Yamadori - Tenor or Baritone - Jay (talk) 04:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Music Project
Hi. Do you remember the Music Project banners and this? Perhaps you could have a look at this here? -- Klein zach  23:49, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Notatallyouknow
This possible SPA made innocuous edits seemingly to throw us off the scent. If you look at their edits, all but one could be seen as having any real substance (but I reverted it anyway). Keep a close eye on this one, and if they seem to be a sock of, don't hesitate to tag appropriately (i.e. sock). Cheers! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 13:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Opera glasses
I removed the banner, then saw you added it! But I think it needs to be in optical instruments. . . (can you see Music Project above?) -- Klein zach  03:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: DYK
Thanks for the note. It's been a while since I last fully read through the instructions/rules - the point that says "Articles with good references and citations are preferred" certainly used to say inline citations were mandatory. Also see the point "Suggested facts (the 'hook') should be always cited in the article with an inline citation." Thus, every article should have at least one inline citation, and a good article will have many. Inline citations should be used regardless of whether the sources are online or offline. — 97198 (talk) 13:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Because it's really that hard to do what the rules say and add in a little superscript number at the end of a sentence? LOL, whatever. :P — 97198 (talk) 13:36, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It seems pointless but I went ahead and put in inline citations.Nrswanson (talk) 14:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to hear. — 97198 (talk) 14:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK ~ Nell Rankin
Intriguing hook! Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!) 16:51, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Image placeholders
Just read the conclusion there. The conclusion there was a recommendation, image placeholders are not banned. I won't revert, but I definately will keep on using them. They work. Garion96 (talk) 16:55, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

The opera corpus stats
I see you have been adding composers and operas - no doubt from Grove - which is great. The only problem is that I have just recompiled the stats (at the foot of the page) with the help of an AWB run by another editor.

Is it possible to give me the totals for your additions, i.e.
 * number of new operas (red)
 * number of new operas (blue)
 * number of new composers with their birth years
 * any women composers

That would be a big help. Thanks. -- Klein zach  02:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Maybe you'd like to add to the stats directly in future? Re these blue redirects - there are more and more these turning up. I'm beginning to think we should simply turn them into minimal stubs when we find them. I'll raise this later on the project. -- Klein zach  03:30, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

The opera corpus
I see you are adding a lot of titles. This is 'raising the bar' / 'moving the goal posts' to the extent that the coverage we are planning is becoming greater and greater. May I ask what criteria you are using for inclusion? Up to now GT and I have included titles that have their own dedicated articles in Grove, Oxford etc. and similar post-1992 works. Best. -- Klein zach  03:44, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * OK. I see you have answered this on the corpus talk page. -- Klein zach  03:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Hans Lang wrong guy?
See. Apparently you've written up the Bavarian; 'Hans Lang (Komponist, Bayern) (1897–1968), deutscher Chorkomponist und Musikpädagoge'. I think we need two articles: 'Hans Land (German composer)' and 'Hans Land (Austrian composer)' and a disambiguation page. -- Klein zach  02:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I've fixed now. There are now two articles: Hans Lang (German composer) and Hans Lang (Austrian composer). -- Klein zach  04:19, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Giulietta e Romeo
I had to correct the names of the original cast: Giuditta Pasta was only one year old at the time of the premiere! I think you are misreading italianopera.org. Better to use Amadeus. -- Klein zach  04:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Print Grove and online Grove
I see you are referencing the print Grove. That puzzles me because I thought you were using the online version. I suppose you realize that they are not the same? Best. -- Klein zach  00:43, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Linking to copyvio
You reverted my removal of copyright violating links as per External_links in the article Dramatic Soprano. Please explain how the links to Youtube in this article are exempt from this regulation. D7240 (talk) 08:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Music Theory Revamp
Check here for my suggestion. JagDragon♫ (talk) 06:51, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Opera
OK thanks. Probably wise to have stayed away. The idea is that we root out the stubs from the categories and have it organized so editors can work on ridding of them with more focus. I fully agree far more time should be spent expanding them, but the idea is precisely for this to improve the systme of development. I'm sure you'll sort something out. Best The Bald One     White cat 12:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm. I guess that means more cross-project stubs that will interfere with the bot runs, undermining the viability of the project. -- Klein zach  02:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Vocal harmony - new article
Hi, this is a new article that just popped up on User:AlexNewArtBot/OperaSearchResult. Not pertinent to the OP, but since you work on a lot of the voice and singing articles, you might be interested. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:57, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Film template
You might want to read the instructions at Template:Film in order to use it more effectively; namely - parameters have to be given values in order to be called. Also please keep in mind that the core parameter should only be assigned to articles which have already been chosen by the criteria of the core department of WP:FILMS; it should not be applied at will. Thanks, Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 21:56, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Specifically, these two edits. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 22:06, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Die weisse Rose (opera)
Thanks for starting this, however the idea was to use the (redirect title) 'Die weisse Rose' not 'Die weisse Rose (opera)'. Hence it was marked as a redirect on the project page. Recently we've been seeing more and more unique titles being made into redirects, (e.g. Scanderbeg). It's better to reclaim (i.e. use) the redirect rather than start an (opera) article as it is difficult to change later - which is now the case both with Scanderbeg and Die weisse Rose. I think we are going to see more and more of this as time goes on. -- Klein zach  02:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


 * There must be a dozen similar cases where we have a foreign title that translates into an existing English article. We don't stick (opera) after each of them. Once we start this kind of thing we'll have a string of articles all with (opera) which will make them difficult to find. It's not helpful. P.S. Excuse me if I'm in a pretty bad mood with all the shenanigans on the project . . . . -- Klein zach  08:23, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

AN Discussion
Hi there. I've replied to your post at the AN discussion you initiated concerning User:Thunderstruck45.

Basically, I'm not sure that there's anything that can be done - the account is already indef blocked, and their activity lately under that account name has been limited to removing warning templates from their user talk page (which is explicitly permitted per Talk page guidelines). Please let me know if there is anything I have missed. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC).


 * I would like to file a police report against Overmoon/Thunderstruck/Upgrade1/Assuredly since he found my cell phone and has been phone harassing me. Could you please supply me with his name and contact information. Thanks. .:davumaya:. 18:06, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Double DYK
Congratulations! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Stub situation
Hi, I've responded on my talk page, as I prefer to keep discussions on the page where they started. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:09, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

What is the reasoning behind the removal of the stub tag you added at here I wonder? Isn't it clearly a stub? I;ve mentioned it at WP:Opera on the extremely low requirements for start class that seem to be appearing on here The Bald One     White cat 12:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK in Portal:Opera and Portal:Classical music
I have redirected Portal opera DYK. If you can open the new page, hit "Purge server cache" at the bottom of the portal to refresh. Secondly, I also changed the interface + format in Portal Classical Music. If you any DYK for classical music, please add on. Thanks. - Jay (talk) 09:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC)