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Hi Nrupatunga, You seem to be a new user presumably from Karnataka. I request you to please join WikiProject Karnataka. This project is for working towards improving articles about Karnataka on Wikipedia. Thanks. Sarvagnya 23:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Welcome and Congrats
Hi

Your work in the article Carnatic Music is very good.

Keep in touch. A4ay 05:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Please sign your posts
On talk pages, please sign your comment by typing four tildes (Ncmvocalist 13:08, 17 December 2006 (UTC)). Ncmvocalist 13:08, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Signature
Hello Nrupatunga, Thanks for your contributions. The references you have provided in Talk:Kannada_language page are much appreciated. Request you to put your signature by placing four tildes, like ~. You can use signature button, right above the edit window while you are editing. By providing signature like this, you dont have to explicitly write "This comment was added by Nrupatunga" message. Hope it helps, and please continue the good job! Thanks. - KNM Talk 03:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Kannada talk page
Hi there, welcome to Wikipedia:) . btw, I've been watching your posts on that Kannada talk page.  I appreciate them greatly, but I request you to please stop engaging those two and continuing the unnecessary and unproductive conversation there.  Instead, please feel free to use all your references and make bold edits to the article.  Thanks and ping me if you need any help.  Sarvagnya 05:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sarvagnya, you might have forgotten the fact that Kannada language article has been protected, so all the changes will need to made only by Admins, through talk page editprotecteds. I believe, with the proper references, the request can be made so that any admin can incorporate those edits to the article. - KNM Talk 07:05, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Nrupatunga. Welcome to Kannada related topics. The citation you provided Aadal regarding impact of Kannada on Tamil_brahmi already exists in the Kannada page (citation #9,10). Can you provide more info with a web link or book reference etc. for the Greek play with the Kannada words/phrases you have written about in the Talk page of Kannada. This is important. If you can find it, we can include it in the Kannada page once it is editable.Dineshkannambadi 14:32, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Nrupatunga, you are discussing with the wrong people (Praveen, Aadal). Get together with User:Sarvagnya and discuss with him. We dont need Aadal to certify Kannada. Sarvagnya will advice you how to go about this.Dineshkannambadi 19:05, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The procedure for having the edits on protected pages is to include editprotected template in the talk page, along with the relevant text (which is to be included in the article, mentioning the section) and supporting citations/references. Once the template is placed, the talk page gets listed in Category:Wikipedia protected edit requests, and any admin who is browsing through that category, can come make the changes. If no one turns up, we can even make a requests at Editor_assistance/Requests.
 * Nrupatunga, what exact text that needs to be included? what are the necessary references? Please write below. We can work on that. Thanks. - KNM Talk 19:36, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

So long as the information is published, no one can question it. It can always be used as an arguement or counter arguement with the correct citation to the reference. There will always be people who will question it, but they cant remove it. Yes it takes time to learn the rules of the game. Its important to keep ones perspective, be calm and play by the rules. Many newcomers loose their cool and eventually leave or get into mischief and get banned. Bring your sources to the table, let it be verified then those who are arguing against you will have to keep quite.

Regarding Vaddaraddhane, did you see a different date somewhere? if so, then where? That would be a good peice of information. Scholars are divided between 9th and 10th century and hence some settle for 900CEDineshkannambadi 12:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Also, when you leave a message, click on the "+" button at the top of the discussion page you intend to leave the message. This creates a seperate paragraph for your message at the bottom of the talk page where you are intending to leave the message. Dont leave the message at the top as it gets lost. Avoid bold letters or ALL UPPER CASE messages as its eqvivalent to stressing or shouting. It takes time to learn as it did for all of us. I am glad you are contributing. Also, Create a user page for yourself.ThanksDineshkannambadi 12:05, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Issues where you could help
1. Population of Kannadigas in Karnataka and outside.

2. Total number of second language speakers of Kannada (the current number looks fishy)

3. Citation for conflicting date for Vaddaraddhane

4. Citations for various inscriptions in Prakrit/Sanskrit prior to Halmidi containing Kannada words/sentences/Phrases. Try to document it in a seperate subarticle called "Bilinguial inscriptions in Kannada" (Look at the citations 21-23 in Kannada page as an example).

5. If any of these bilingual inscriptions are older than the Tumbula copper plate inscriptions, we need to bring it to the main page. If they are stone type, we can add it to the paragraph above, along with Halmidi as additional info.

6. Photographs of Kannada coins, copper plates, inscriptions from various kingdoms.

Everythign has to be cited and should not be taken from bolg sites.Dineshkannambadi 15:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

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WikiProject Karnataka/Collaboration
Hello Nrupatunga, Please see WikiProject_Karnataka/Collaboration and its discussion page at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Karnataka/Collaboration. Your inputs are much appreciated. Thanks - KNM Talk 07:42, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Ajitha purana
Nice job of starting this page which was later cleaned up by Sarvagnya. One of the main components of writing a complete article on Kannada literature begins by writing all the background pages for important poets, writings and poetics. This is the first step. Once this is complete or atleast well documented can we really write the main article. good job.Dineshkannambadi 11:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi. For each great poet/writer pick up one or two of their most important writings eg:Kanakadasa-Ramadhnyacharite etc. For names of Kannada writers and their famous writings, look up the pages for each empire (Hoysala literature, Western Chalukya literature etc.Dineshkannambadi 12:11, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

One more thing, while writing about literary works, please make sure you provide reference and citations. As an example, please refer to Kavirajamarga that I created. This page will also show you how to provide citations, the format etc. Web and book citations are given differently. Even in book citations the format can change depending on whether its the opinion of the author or the opinion of another scholar that the author is refereing to. Equally important is "not" to give our own interpretations of what the scholar means. We only write (without violating copyright - meaning without copying word to word) what the author wants to convey. For example: Kanakadasa's Ramadhnyacharite is a rare work on class struggle intended for all sections of society.

(if you open your talk page in edit mode you will see the citation format)

Kannada script
Sure I will watch it.ThanksDineshkannambadi 16:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Kannada script
In this page, please write a paragraph of text in Kannada characters so the world knows how Kannada is written. That should be interesting. Perhaps a quote by "Kuvempu".thanksDineshkannambadi 12:08, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Tips for writing an article (Mohanatarangini

 * Dont add spaces between the start of a line and the first character in the line. It ends up creating boxes.


 * Provide citations from the book the way I had shown in your talk page earlier with page numbers.


 * create subheadings the way I have.


 * Dont copy wordings exactly as it appears in the book. Try to use your own words without changing the meaning.


 * The lead section should have a brief description of the author (in this case Kanakadasa).Describe where he lived, when he was born, where he wrote his writings, which king patronised him etc. Try to create a 6-8 line LEAD section.


 * Provide full publication info of the reference book. The year of original publication, author, any repreints. Look at my user page at the bottom and you will see what I mean.


 * All complicated words (like sangatya for example) needs to be explained in brackets to elaborate what it means. ex: Sati (The act of a widow burning herself on her husbands pyre in medieval India)

We can make this a DYK article.
 * If you have an image of Krishna - Rukmini, add it here as it pertains to the writing.

I will copy edit the existing matter after you have input this info I have requested..Dineshkannambadi 14:32, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I will add tags where I think you should introduce citations (page number, author or book info) the way I have shown earlier. I will try to collect info on this writing from my own books too. For words whose meaning is not clear, I will add tag for which you need to produce the meaning of the term for others to understand.Dineshkannambadi 20:12, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Unclear statements It is believed that Kanakadasa wrote this work when he lost his beloved wife. He seemed to write his own personnel experiences so as to remember his wife. There is a close relationship between music and Sangatya poems in his work. This is a Sringara Rasa based book spanning over three generations. It is a story of Kama (the god of love), his parents Krishna and Rukmini, Pradumya and Rathi, Aniruddha and Ushe. This story ends up in killing of demon Banasura and marriage of Usha and Aniruddha using a presentation similar to Sukumara style.

How are these characters related? What are Sringara Rasa and Sukumara style? How is Manmatha related to krishna-Rukmini.? How is Pradyumna related to Krishna Rukmini? How is Rathi related to Manmath/Pradyumna? Dineshkannambadi 23:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Kannada writings
Please add some citations to your article Mohanatarangini. Also consider writing about,Yashodharacharite by Ranna, Vishnupurana by Rurdabhatta, Girijakalyana by Harihara, Harishchandra kavya by Raghavanka - All from the Hoysala era.

Also, Santipurana by Sri Ponna, Vaddaradhane by Shivakotiacharya, both from the Rashtrakuta rule. We can get to others later as we go on.

Did Mahaviracharya (the mathematician in Amoghavarsha's court) write in Kannada also? We need to uncover if Bhaskaracharya (the mathematician) from Bijapur wrote in Kannada. His Sanskrit writings are connected with the Seuna court. Sarvagnya will help you upload Kannada characters over ages in a tabular format. Dineshkannambadi 16:02, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Your Mohanatarangini has been nominated by Sarvagnya to DYK article. Please add an image of Krishna/Rukmini or Kama to the page. Images make an article more interesting. Also, please explain what is a "Sandhi" in the article.Dineshkannambadi 22:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Mohanatarangini

 * Congratulations - P.K.Niyogi 07:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Congrats, Nrupatunga. You've earned your first DYK.  Keep it up.  :)  Sarvagnya 07:33, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

uploading image
No. There are all kinds of restrictions. Speak to sarvagnya. I normally take my own photographs and upload it as GDFL-self made. If you have a digital camera just click one good phptograph and upload it. If you have a regular camera, scan the photograph into jpg format and upload it.Dineshkannambadi 11:11, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Political history of medieval Karnataka
Thanks for your support.Dineshkannambadi 11:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Vaddaradhane
Please provide names of those scholars, their books etc who claim earlier than 9th century date for this writing. It is important to record this in all locations where this literary work is mentioned.Dineshkannambadi 14:35, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Haridasa Sahitya
At the bottom of this page in the section "Famous Haridasas", there is a list of haridasas who contributed immensely to Kannada poetry. Please think of writing about each one as DYK's.Dineshkannambadi 15:39, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Formatting
Sure.. I'll take a look. Sarvagnya 06:16, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Need some help
I am trying to get a few lines of information on two 10th century Kannada writings by Grammarian Gunavarma I namely Shudraka and Harivamsha. Please try to unearth some info.Dineshkannambadi 01:52, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Timeline of Karnatakas History
Hi. This is a topic that Sarvagnya and myself had discussed about working on quite some time back and as such will eventually need inputs from everyone on the Karnataka work group. This topic (which is well worth a DYK) involves a timeline from Pre-history, Mauryas, Satavahanas, Chutunanda - Satkarnis, Kadambas, Gangas, Chalukyas, Rashtrakutas, Hoysalas, Vijayanagara etc.... I believe this topic needs a lot more attention and references and may not be the right time to focus on. While I fully appreciate the effort you have put in so far, I suggest you continue to focus on writing on Important Kannada classics, Authors, Kannada script. Its very important to do a detailed job on each topic before moving to the next. You have done a good job so far.thanksDineshkannambadi 02:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Open the page. Hit the move button on top. in the field that appears, type the new name -Chronology of Kannada literature (or Karnataka literature). Give a reson for the move, something like "better name for article". Hit the "move page" button.Dineshkannambadi 13:21, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

The article Karnataka Literature whch I had created and was later expanded by many users to cover all kingdoms may help you add some more info to this page.Dineshkannambadi 21:23, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Please see my suggestions in the talk page of the chronology of karnataka literature article here, let me know if you need any help -- Amarrg 16:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

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Purandaradasa
Please see the latest citations I have added to birth place of Purandaradasa. This book I have sourced from will be of vital importance to write about other Dvaita saints like Vyasatirtha etc. Please see if you can get a hold of this book, or use this google pages to maximum utility.Dineshkannambadi 14:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

You need to reload the Kadamba script image with GDFL self made tag. Please Indicate which book the script came from.Dineshkannambadi 14:29, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Genealogies
The articles already have the genelogies elaborated in respective templates. If yours is significantly different, it is better to discuss it on the Karnataka forum, see what is applicable and what is not. The Banavasi Kadamba genelogy needs some work (I will deal with it once I am done with Western Ganga article) and also need to create subarticles fro Kadambas of Hangal and Goa. My books also provide full genelogies of all Kannada empires and each author shows some differences here and there. Normally there is some minor differences in genelogies from author to author and needs to be carefully examined for accuracy and balance. At the end, readers dont really give too much importance to whether "Shivamara II ruled from 725-750 or 725-755" or if he ruled before king xxxx or just after xxxx, unless it is historically very important to be accurate. These are minor issues. I suggest you bring it to the Karnataka work group and we can surely discuss it. It is important not to create edit churns on featured articles like Rashtrakuta or others, especially when it could become a main wiki article anyday soon.Dineshkannambadi 15:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Haridasa
I have substantially expanded and cited with references and nominated this article for DYK. Sarvagnya brought this link [] which contains the names of 151 haridasas. Using this link can you make a seperate article called List of Haridasas of Karnataka and enter all their names, possible periods, birth place etc so we can add this as a subarticle to the Haridasa page.?thanks.Dineshkannambadi 13:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC) Better yet, please see if you can find an English language link or similar information. Once the "list" is created, then many DYK's can be created for important Haridasas.Dineshkannambadi 17:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

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Request for peer review.
Hi Nrupatunga, the article Namadhari naik belonging to Karnataka wikigroup, is edited by me and deals with the community history of the Namadharis/Halepaiks of Uttara Kannada. In creating this article i have referred to most of Kannada literature sources, some of which are really rare [ex; Bombay gazetteer in Karnataka: Dharwad,Belgaum,Bijapur and Kannara districts, Venkataramgo Katti; Kaada toreya jaadu: Autobiography of Kadidal Shamanna; Kagodu ondu nenapu, C.B.Chandrashekhar;The Nayakas of Ikkeri, K.D.Swaminathan;,Bimba-Pratibimba, Dr.L.R.Hegde;D.L.N Avara Ayda Lekhana, Kamala Hampana]. These form a necessary part of the glorious literary tradition of Kannada language and need to be seconded. hence i request you to kindly review the page.

offlate, i have been facing unilateral notices on the material without a proper knowledgable discussion on the topic. the member issuing notices seems to lack relevent knowledge in the subject and is defintely biased. but the warnings and unwarranted editing may lead to the page loosing out on the precious information derived from above mentioned sources. So i request neutral observers like you to review it and opinionate. thankyou.

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New heading 'Historical reference' added to Belgaum Border Dispute.
Plz check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgaum_border_dispute#Historical_Reference. I have added new info which should change the way this dispute has been seen till now and tilt the balance in Karnataka's favour. It is obvious that it might face war-editing from certain sections. I request you all to follow the page and ensure the truth prevails.

Tej smiles (talk) 12:29, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

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