User talk:Nsaum75/Archives/2010/June

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 * The discussions at the template as can bee seen here:]  clearly show many people discussing and showing that the occupied territories should be in it, the IP address removed it without consensus here and without participating at the talkpage:  there were no consensus to change the template. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 21:11, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? The vast majority of editors at the template discussion including several Israeli editors supported the inclusion of occupied territories. So why wouldn't I revert the edit by the IP when there was no consensus for the change? and a lot of that discussion was from 2008, so it hasn't been "left hanging" since my topic bann. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 21:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

I have asked for clarification if the article rfc has any connection to the consensus at the template --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 10:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

The admin who closed the RfM at the article has now said that the no-consensus RfM does not affect the template and that the content of the template needs to be discussed at the template talkpage: --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 14:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

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Image on portal
Hi, I added one of your great photos to the Houston portal. Please update if I have not given proper credit. Thanks! Postoak (talk) 05:36, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Doing fine. I was in Clearwater, FL for a couple of weeks for training/conference. Very nice town but I'm glad to be home. Are you out of the state? Postoak (talk) 18:03, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't have a chance to do the tourist thing. I wanted to see downtown St. Petersburg, so I set my GPS to take me there. Instead of the city, it took me to the beaches at Fort De Soto Park which were stunning. Now why couldn't Stewart Beach look like this? (although I love Galveston - lol). Airfares are crazy..I would need to take out a loan of I wanted to visit Israel or even Albuquerque :) It is getting hot here, around 90-95 high so far with evening thunderstorms. Keep in touch! Postoak (talk) 05:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Enough!
I try to contribute and improve Wikipedia through photography and my own experiences in this world. I also choose to leave various routes of contact available, either through links on photos I contribute or on my own user page. Some might call this foolhearty or stupid, but when working to improve an encyclopedia, should we really have anything to hide?

That said, there are certain areas of this encyclopedia that are patrolled by disruptive, agenda-driven individuals, who will stop at nothing to ensure the voices of those whom they disagree with are silenced. Those certain individuals have taken it upon themselves to threaten me several times, via off-wiki email, with "administrative filings" and the like, if I choose to contribute to content that falls under a certain "topic area". I have been told that I will be "punished" if I as much as even comment on user behavior in this realm.

I have no doubt that the individual(s) in question are using "disposable" email addresses, although I'm sure their location and identity could be harvested from them if I tried. I'm also sure if I pushed the issue and did a "forbidden" act, then the guilty party would have to step forward to issue "punishment". But I really don't have time for this childish BS, and today's "suggestive email" was the last straw.

Something on Wikipedia has failed. Its a shame that politics and battle ground mentality has ruined something that had the possibility to be so great. Its also a shame that those in "power" are so blinded by "Assume Good Faith" that disruption and abuse is allowed to continue, while driving away good, productive members of the encyclopedia. -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm; 22:24, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Totally reprehensible. This may lead to a remedy. Hertz1888 (talk) 00:09, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sheesh. Sorry to hear this Nsaum.I would hate if we lost you.Thelmadatter (talk) 00:59, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * This is sad to hear. Nsaum75, you have contributed so much to the project. The AGF stuff is wearing me thin also. I really hope you stay. Postoak (talk) 06:03, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

nsaum
If you weren't planing on opening that RfC, why did you create a sandbox for it? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 22:24, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm done, SD... I've had enough of battleground mentality of the I/P arena and each and every action being gone over with a fine-tooth-comb to see if anything can possibly be used against someone or be twisted in such a way to be used against someone.  I just dropped out of both the Israel and Judaism projects, and have begun to process to find out if any/all of my Israel-related photos can be removed from Wikipedia...or at least dis-associated from me.  The constant fighting, forum shopping, admin shopping, policy shopping, policy twisting, anonymous threatening emails and general paranoia is not what building an encyclopedia is about, and I don't wish to have anything further to do with it.  -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm; 22:33, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You think I sent you those emails? Why did you start that RfC if you weren't planing on creating it? What were you going to do with it? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 22:43, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * SD, a user is explicitly allowed by policy to create a draft RfC int their userspace. See WP:UP: The compilation of factual evidence (diffs) in user subpages, for purposes such as preparing for a dispute resolution process, is permitted provided it will be used in a timely manner. It is not "harassment".  nableezy  - 23:00, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Is a user allowed to start "RFCs on editors behaviour" ? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 23:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, see WP:RFC/U. It requires another editor certify the cause of the RfC. It is part of the "dispute resolution" process and is typically required before opening an ArbCom case on a user. Also, you really dont have a reason to be looking at Nsaum's contribs, so there was no reason for you to even see the edit to the sandbox.  nableezy  - 23:14, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ignore the emails, ignore the fighting, ignore the whatever shopping. No need for this; you have uploaded some nice work, fuck whoever has a problem with it. If you feel this place aint worth the aggravation I understand, but try ignoring that nonsense before leaving. Just delete whatever emails you get, and try not to step into the "battles" others are having between each other. There are certainly times you cant avoid such things, and I am not saying step away from the content "battles", just the personal ones, but when you can ignore it try to do so. Honestly, if you just sit back and watch instead of trying to get involved, either as peacemaker or partisan or whatever, the whole thing can be very entertaining. Take care,  nableezy  - 22:53, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Nableezy, I appreciate your input. But I'm tired of the content battles over photos, names of places, the twisting of rules, the forum shopping, admin shopping, policy shopping and battleground behavior in the project. The final straw is having my own reference sandboxes turned against me...and certain editors ongoing attempt to continue to bait/battle me even after i've stated a perfectly good reason for my sandboxes...  Where does this stop?? Well it stops here. I'm done -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm; 23:18, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Pics
Hi - I noticed your deletion request for a number of pics. Just out of curiosity, may I ask why you want them deleted? The two I reviewed are currently in use on a number of en.wp articles. Thanks. 7 23:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I am disassociating myself from articles in the Israel/Palestine conflict; as such I want my photos removed (or at least disassociated from me, if thats possible...the easiest route seemed deletion). They are a lightning rod for political manuvering and I am sorry I ever contributed them. -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm; 23:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Understood.  7  23:33, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Jorge Cruickshank García
I need your opinion here. Mexican politician Jorge Cruickshank García is nominated for DYK for 8 June. The hook only states "... that socialist Jorge Cruickshank García became the first opposition senator of Mexico in 1976?" I asked the nominator if "opposition" means "non-PRI" but he says that is all his source says. Given the time frame, do you think its OK to change "opposition" to "non-PRI" or leave it as is? I think is too vague as is. Thanks.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:49, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Could I pester you to put that opinion in the DYK nomination discussion?Thelmadatter (talk) 15:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Webster, TX post office
I noticed File:APC 77598 Webster Texas.jpg - Did you get a shot of the actual post office as well? Webster, Texas needs an image of its post office. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I would ask the agents where the law is referenced and how one would be able to read it. Even then it is very easy to photograph the exteriors of post offices from public streets, so I guess the law is only intended to prevent photography of "sensitive" areas. In any case a simple photo of a regular post office should be alright. I've posted several at Commons:Category:Post offices in Texas and Commons:Category:Post offices in Houston - I am trying to get many photos of post offices throughout Houston. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree with that tactic too :) - Personally I've never encountered any postal service employees telling me not to take photos... WhisperToMe (talk) 01:32, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I put both in the Webster, Texas article, and I plan to import both files to the Wikimedia Commons - BTW on the commons category commons:Category:Houston and in many of its sub-categories I began putting in Spanish descriptions for category names and file names, so that people who speak Spanish can more easily navigate the category tree. I'm not very good at the language, but I take time to look up vocabulary and check official Spanish names of places. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing that! There are quite a few cities in Galveston county that need their city halls and their post offices!
 * In addition to its post office Bacliff, Texas needs an image of Kenneth E. Little Elementary

School - 622 Oklahoma Street and its water tower (I don't know the address, but it should be visible from several points)
 * San Leon, Texas needs an image of San Leon Elementary School (2655 Broadway Street)
 * Thanks,
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 08:13, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

hello i couldnt figure how to p.m you can you contact me (mymyby) i dont think a link to a video with a recipe is spamming

I'm back in H-Town, so I am now submitting some images from the Houston area. If you need any photo requests from me, please let me know! :) BTW before you go to Ben Gurion Airport, please make sure that you study the IAA map that shows the location of the El Al building relative to Terminal 1 so you will know where to go in order to take the photo. Thanks in advance! WhisperToMe (talk) 05:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)