User talk:Nthep/Archive 6

Please read link, prior to make mistaken edit!
The article in berlin Review of Books relative to Franz Schmidt is by the author himself. It is a perfectly reliable source on its own. Arildnordby (talk) 00:23, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Apolgies, serves me right for editing too late at night. NtheP (talk) 14:49, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

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Teahouse help
Hey Nthep,

A user has started demanding an article layout be changed according to his desire against the vote of everyone else who has reverted the changes. It is really odd. I am a new user and have no idea how to handle the situation. And is this type of thing a regular occurrence? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_people_who_have_been_called_a_polymath

I am also updating the page of Patrick M. Byrne which has extremely confusing Talk page requirements.Bhalluka (talk) 19:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Comment moved from top of page
Oh, thanks for deleting that last post of mine and my others. I left for a few minutes but I stayed online and my brother messed with everything. I would have been ruined if you didnt help me! I owe you man — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nope.jpg (talk • contribs) 22:55, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Help on a photo
Hi Nthep, Could you help me out with a question I have with regards to why 'File:Penmaen-Bach mountain from Dwygyfylchi road.jpg'. It's a photo of a mountain taken from Google earth- Street cam. The photo in question replaced a previous photo on an article which by the way was also from Google earth- Street cam but the old photo had a side shot of a road sign in it. The new photo is up for deletion but the older photo wasn't deleted (even though that was also from Google earth- Street cam and ahd been there a good while). Any help would be helpful. Thanks.Only Stone tools? (talk) 13:08, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * OST, the issue with the images you've uploaded is that they are capable of replacement by a free image. Note that the criteria is capable of being replaced by a free image not that one actually exists at the moment.  So unless the mountain isn't there any more, anyone could take a trip out to North Wales, take an image and upload it here with a free licence.  That's the case with the image you replaced (File:Penmaen Bach from the Dwygyfylchi road - geograph.org.uk - 1772532.jpg) - it's not from Google Earth but from Geograph where it was licenced for free use, hence it's transfer to here.  I agree with you it's not as good a photo as the ones you found but more importantly from wikipedia terms of use it is free. NtheP (talk) 13:53, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Copyright help
Ok. Thanks for the warning. I'm planning to replace the copyright tag under Licensing but unfortunately I don't know how. Could you show me the steps of how to do it or make a link from where the article about it in Wikipedia? I can't find the article of how to change the license anywhere on Wiki. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wethar555 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries. Do you want to change the licence to another free one or swap to a [WP:NFCC|non free use]] rationale? NtheP (talk) 21:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I think if I change the copyright tag to [Non-free architectural work|image has rationale=yes] then the copyright would make alot more sense on the photo of Dubai City Tower. This is the first time I ever upload photos on Wikipedia so I am still getting used this. Wethar555 (talk) 22:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That's fairly easy. Go to the image, delete the current contents (including the warning template I added) and add the following (cut and paste)


 * Fill in all the lines of the Non-free use template and save the results. That should do the trick. NtheP (talk) 22:20, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot. You just saved me from getting my photo deleted. Wethar555 (talk) 01:08, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

North Staffs Regt – W.D. Stamer
Hi. I've been through the 1st/2nd Battalions history for mentions of Stamer, with the following results: I think that's everything, though the book isn't indexed, so I may have missed something. In particular, I've found no mention of his being awarded his MC (and the book does generally try to record significant decorations): from the details here it looks as if it might have been for his actions in March 1918, but if you're confident it was 1917 perhaps it was when he was attached to Brigade. No photos, I'm afraid (there aren't many in the book: most of the illustrations are uncontextualised and pretty incomprehensible terrain and trench maps). But I hope you can use some of that. GrindtXX (talk) 02:48, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * p. 2: he is not included in the list of officers who embarked with the 1st Battalion for France on 8 Sept 1914: he must have gone out later.
 * p. 55: his first mention is in the list of 1st Bn officers who took part in the Third Battle of Ypres (July 1917). Listed as "Captain W.D. Stamer, Brigade Intelligence Officer". No further details: I imagine that means he was attached to Brigade HQ, rather than being with the Battalion itself?
 * p. 65: Account of two raids made by the Battalion on 6 and 7 Dec 1917. "It should be mentioned that before these raids took place Captain W.D. Stamer had taken up the duties of Adjutant vice Captain P.D. Harris [my grandfather], who was attached to 72nd Brigade Headquarters."
 * Several mentions in the chapter on the Battalion's experiences in the German offensive of March 1918. p. 70: On 20 March, with the Battalion in the front line, intelligence was received that the offensive would begin the next day. "In spite of this there were still some Officers who did not believe that the Battalion would be seriously involved, and Colonel Pope [ Vyvyan Pope, C/O] and Captain Stamer had a bet on the subject, the former having the satisfaction of collecting Frs. 100 later on, when both were in hospital together." (It's fairly obvious that Pope was the source of much of the information in this chapter.) The attack did indeed begin on 21 March: the forward three companies were practically wiped out, and Pope was badly wounded. p. 74: The Germans advanced on Battalion HQ, lying behind a wide trench known as the Red line, "which was now commanded by the Adjutant, Captain Stamer. ... Captain Stamer most gallantly turned a machine gun on them [the enemy], and when all its crew had been hit he took it himself, only to fall back hit in the head by a bullet which penetrated his steel helmet. In spite of his wound Captain Stamer continued to command, and indeed to inspire the whole defence. ... Very severe fighting went on for some time, but when the whole of one machine gun crew had been knocked out and one of the Lewis guns had jammed hopelessly, Captain Stamer ordered a rush to be made to try and clear the enemy out of the sunken roads and mounds. This was done successfully at the point of a bayonet, but the party came under heavy enfilade fire from the right (south) flank and could not hold on, so shortly before mid-day Captain Stamer decided to withdraw in the direction of the Verman-Maissemy Road."
 * p. 86: 2 July 1918 (by which time the decimated Battalion had been re-formed with fresh troops): "Captain W.D. Stamer, M.C., returned to the Battalion and took over the duties of Adjutant from Captain D.C. Butterworth."
 * p. 87: 17 Sept 1918: "Captain W.D. Stamer took over the duties of Second-in-Command, Lieut. D.C. Butterworth succeeding him as Adjutant." (Note that Butterworth seems to have been demoted: the book is full of odd little slips and inconsistencies of this sort!)
 * Chapter on the Battalion's involvement in the Battle of the Selle. p. 92: 13 Oct 1918, heavily engaged near Montrecourt: At 11 a.m. Lieut.-Colonel Hodson [H.V.R. Hodson, C/O] was wounded, and Major Stamer, M.C., took over command." p. 94: preparations for the major assault to begin on 4 Nov 1918: "The 1st North Staffords had a fighting strength of 17 Officers and 432 other ranks, and were commanded by acting Lieut.-Colonel W.D. Stamer, M.C.." No further mentions, but presumably he remained in command through the Battalion's subsequent advances and up to the Armistice.

Your non-Answer to my question in the Teahouse!
This is to do with a problem with the graph chronology for next UK election. Note: when a small image appears, hover over it with your mouse to read the complete the sentence.

Ok, so this page has always had a chart but due to the continuous updates with the addition of new polls the chart needs updating every once in a while. This has meant that there are now an abundance of unwanted/out of date files on wikipedia, which should really belong in the chronology of the . As you can see from the chronology all is well for the chronology of that page until it stops at May 2012, the final update.

The next image to be uploaded was a, this chart and the were used simultaneously for a period. That is until the data for 2011 and 2012 was updated to the 30px|talk page to accommodate the new format (due to the addition of UKIP's column). This is a recent occurance. I was the one that uploaded the new data a few days ago, I also created a to see us through until we could get a new version of the favoured chart to cover May 2010-Present Day.

A exists, this preceded my chart, it was made in error, I discovered the lines were too thick for interpretation, therefore this image needs to be deleted, as it is in effect a duplicate. I do not know how to delete this image, or suggest deletion, can someone help/delete it for me? I'll see to it that there are comments on that page.

Since my chart was uploaded, I have uploaded the data to the talk page, for User:Wavehunter to update the chart that preceded mine to include the data from 2010 and 2011. The reason for this is that Wavehunter's chart was the one that had consensus. In the meantime Impru20 has uploaded. Since then Wavehunter has uploaded his updated chart which is now (by consensus) the.

To summarise what I need help with doing/for someone to do for me:

All of these listed graphs need to be added to the chronology of the and not be as separate pages. In chronological order the follow should be added to the chronology:
 * Opinion Polling Chart for the 2015 UK General Election.png (or deleted)
 * Opinion Polling Chart for the 2015 UK general election.png
 * UK opinion polling 2010-2015.png
 * GB Polling May 2010 to Jan 2013.jpg (current)

Note: Please do not include: the as it is useful on other pages and does not fit in the chronology (as does not include 2010or11!

I would really appreciate someone doing this for me, as I am likely to make a mistake with it being multiple edits and my 1st time doing this. Could you also leave a note explaining how to do this for future reference on the talk page for the benefit of myself and future editors.

I also want to know how to do this so that I can use my new skill on another page, I have another picture that I need to replace/update but I want to do it properly! So once I know what I'm doing and once someone has done this for me I will be able to see to things like this in the future.

Many ThanksSheffno1gunner (talk) 21:55, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sheff, welcome to the Teahouse. There are a number of things that could be done. One would be to create a category that contains all these images so they could be seen together. Another, and this maybe what you are referring to is to upload a new version of an existing file. This is an option for any image and at the bottom of the image page you get a thumbnail view of all the previous versions. The advantage is that you don't have to keep changing the article the image is used in as the image file name remains the same. The disadvantage is if someone wants to maintain a static link to one of the previous versions of the image elsewhere. I'd suggest that if you want to do this you raise it on the talk page of a candidate image page and leave a note at the original editors talk page as well. NtheP (talk) 16:20, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

This didn't answer my question! I was indeed talking about the 2nd thing you described with thumbnails. Could you please tell me how to link all these images under 1 tittle with one set of thumbnails as you described. All you have done is described back to me what I had described to you, except in better terminology! That was not at all helpful! I will ask this for the 4th time on wiki (in various places) HOW DO I DO THIS? Please cut the crap and just tell me! I'm not studying for a degree in bullsh1t so please spare me the opening lecture!

All images apart from the 2012 image need to be included as they replace one another! How do you this? Or could you do it for me?Sheffno1gunner (talk) 05:44, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Just in case you couldn't tell I didn't appreciate having my question kicked into the long grass and having to repost it in the Teahouse again. Had you given a proper answer (instead of merely correcting my terminology) or just not bothered to answer, someone else could have given an answer! If you know the answer please just say it in plain English or at least say something helpful! I really don't see why you bothered typing anything on a question and answer page when you neither a question or an answer! It's very frustrating because your not the 1st to have done this either!Sheffno1gunner (talk) 05:53, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * More brevity in your postings and less confrontation in your tone might help you. NtheP (talk) 14:17, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * My tone is confrontational because you have really annoyed me! People don't like being patronized by having their terminology corrected for the sake of it. If you go to a question and answer page in future, please please please either ask a question or answer a question. I'm telling you because what you did made it look as if my question had been answered, when all you'd done is corrected my terminology. By the way brevity is hard to come by in the face of complicated questions! I stated a clear bullet pointed summary of what I wanted to do but also elaborated, I tried to give the best of both worlds!Sheffno1gunner (talk) 15:07, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * A simple "you don't appear to have answered my question" or "I don't understand your answer" would have done. I did point out that it was possible to upload a new version of an image. If you are going to get irate every time someone doesn't give you the response you want you are going to spend a lot of time being annoyed. NtheP (talk) 15:22, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes that was incredibly useful since I'd said in my opening statement that I'd already been uploading images. I was asking HOW you upload a new version of an image! I knew it was possible and gave an example showing that. This is why I'm getting irate because you've attempted to answer a question that you don't appear to have read properly!Sheffno1gunner (talk) 19:34, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * As you've had your question answered elsewhere why don't you Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass? Your attitude in pursuing this has blown any goodwill I might have had to responding to your original question and I don't intend to continue this pointless conversation any further. NtheP (talk) 19:55, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

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References and links are hard, and url encoding even more so. Still, you made it seem approachable with a crisp and focused answer for the Teahouse guest who had a problem with square brackets in a link. Thanks for doing that!

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At the Teahouse
Hello! Since you responded to (this) question by TheUmbrellaAgencyBP (talk) at the Teahouse, I thought I'd mention a concern I have regarding COI. First of all, the username suggests representation of an agency rather than an individual, and secondly the Umbrella Agency represents the subject of the article. See: - I'm not a Teahouse host (but I play one on TV), so perhaps somebody with experience in this area could provider the user with relevant information about conflict of interest, etc.  ~Thanks, ~Eric F 74.60.29.141 (talk) 19:31, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Eric, thanks for the message, TUA has already been left a note about his username and as yet I'm not seeing the COI arising - all that exists currently is an under developed article at AFC - just one of many. If it starts veering off into the hyperbolic then fine it'll get tagged as COI but for the time being I don't see it as an issue and I'm not going to jump on someone as a preventative measure. NtheP (talk) 19:52, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. I guess if there's no obvious bias, etc. then it doesn't really matter if there is a potential conflict of interest (right?). ~E74.60.29.141 (talk) 20:18, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Moot point. I try (not always successfully) to assume good faith rather than preempt things that may not occur. NtheP (talk) 20:23, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Good point. Over at that 'other help desk' there is a tendency to jump on people with the slightest hint of COI; I personally prefer to let people do their thing, and only point out problems that arise (and refer to folks like yourself who know what they're doing).  ;)  ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 20:57, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Christopher Slowe
Hi there NtheP. I was actually saving the article on Christopher Slowe when I got an edit conflict with you :) If you read it now (almost finished) I think you will find it's fair bit more in line with what is required.  Cheers Ybidzian (talk) 22:38, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Good enough for the BLPProd to go but I removed the CV like sections. NtheP (talk) 22:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

sign '
hi. how can i type sign " ' " like "it's" or "doesn't " ?. --بیکار (talk) 17:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It depends on your keyboard. On both a US or UK keyboard it's on the middle row next to the semi-colon key at the right hand side .  If you have a keyboard for a different language check out this website to work out where the key you want is. NtheP (talk) 17:38, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * thank you very much.--بیکار (talk) 03:24, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Quintinshill
Hi I suppose I know too much about this as the new book will reveal. The link to the polical situation is far more significant than realised by any other author. It was yet another bad news story for a country in very low morale and political melt down. It was dealt with then as any other bad news story for governments "bury it" and deflect any blame from us. Fortunately they had two easily identified culprits. The wider issues that have remained as classified documents for nearly 100 years tell a different story - and a fascinating one. Look forward to re-writing the entire story on Wiki. GC Jack 15:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GC Jack (talk • contribs)

Thanks
...for pinging me about the Q&A gadget post on WT:Teahouse the other day. - J-Mo Talk to Me   Email Me  22:29, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback message from Tito Dutta
Since you have stated here I think you want to continue/finish here too! Tito Dutta (talk) 08:58, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

WALDENBURG INTERNATIONAL COLLEGE deletion
Hi! Just wanted to let you know that I removed the CSD tag, as (I think) it's technically an "educational institution". However, I did place a PROD tag on the article. Thanks for new page patrolling. It's a Fox! (Talk to me?) 17:23, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * let's get rid of this rubbish - I doubt it's a genuine institution and what text there is a copyvio of it's website. Frankly extremely dubious.  Added a G12 NtheP (talk) 17:29, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Okray Family Farms
Lucas Lagman (talk) 15:46, 2 February 2013 (UTC)Please take a look if my edit is good enough. Please reply if it is okay in m talk page. Also, if you find any problems in it, please tell me directly. Write the parts of the article in my page. Thanks. As for the potato plant, I've already asked Gabrielle Eck and the others. Well, Gabrielle told me all of the pictures in their website are fine for use in Wikipedia. I already had passed the evidence for that to the mentioned websites in the file if you clicked it. It has two URL addresses. Of course, the images are for Wikipedia only. Also, that image is their specialty crop but do not worry. I'll specify it in the article. I just want you to know, Okray Family Farms is not my first article. It is my fourth article but for some reason I was forced to delete the four articles.
 * You really want to check out the General notability guidelines about what constitutes notability and what is needed to support it by way of reliable sources.  You might also want to start with the article as a draft at your sandbox before running it in mainspace. NtheP (talk) 18:07, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven
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Thanks
Thanks for the heads up... Now that you've put things in perspective understand that the user was most probably involved in sock puppetry (This is regarding your answer in the Tea House on Sock Puppetry)... Thanks Again... Cheers Ajayupai95 (talk) 16:58, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Tim Gustard
I note that in the past you have modified the Tim Gustard page. It was originally created by a devoted collector and was a bit flowery. Wiki editors cleaned it up satisfactorily until user Filthemill came along. He seems to have and agenda clouded by personal prejudice and insists on deleting and adding derogatory matter in order to belittle, this is not in the spirit of Wikipedia. It would me great if someone like yourself could rebuild the article in the correct format, failing this it would be better to see the article deleted completely. I am Tim Gustard and you can mail me on bobdunda@btinternet.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.15.212 (talk) 13:13, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Justin Jones performing at the ACL Music Festival, October 12, 2012.jpg
Thank you for informing me about the photo that was deleted off of the Justin Jones (American singer-songwriter) wiki page. Just to clarify, if I get the person who created the file to use the template given on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSENT Declaration of consent for all enquiries and grant us permission to use the file, will it be put back on the page? Please let me know. thank you NickV930NickV930 (talk) 20:32, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXIII, February 2013
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The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven (special Birthday recap)


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Over the past year almost 2000 questions have been asked and answered, 669 editors have introduced themselves, 1670 guests have been served, 867 experienced Wikipedians have participated in the project, and 137 have served as hosts. Read more project analysis in our CSCW 2013 paper

Last month January was our most active month so far! 78 profiles were created, 46 active hosts answered 263 questions, and 11 new hosts joined the project.

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WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - March 2013
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Shadow_Hand
Hi, I've recently been trying to update the images on the Shadow_Hand page, but don't seem to be able to comply with the guidelines. I first added two images on a non-free license, next in response to feedback that there was no reason that a free image could not be created, I created free versions of the images (I first tried to update the existing images but the copyright section of the page didn't seem to reflect my updates).

I then got another message saying there was no proof that the image was licensed under CC-SA so I used the template to send a consent email (I work for the company that created the images).

Finally all images have been removed, and the free image I uploaded the second time around was tagged with the following:

16:28, 1 March 2013 Diannaa (talk | contribs) deleted page File:Shadow hand and human hand size comparison.jpg (F1: Redundant copy of non-Commons file in the same file format: File:Shadow Robot Hand and Human Hand Size Comparison, Black and White.jpg)

I don't quite understand why they were both deleted, once the original non free version was removed, the second free image was no longer redundant.

Apologies for the long post, if you could help me comply with the regulations in order to get the images up onto the page it would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

Ajpether (talk) 06:27, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi. Let's ignore why they all  got deleted for the time being and concentrate on making sure a copy stays up.  So, you work for the company - in which case I'm assuming that getting permission to use the image isn't going to be difficult?  It's this permission that is the important bit.  Preferably it'll be an email to you and will have words along the lines of what is in WP:CONSENT.  At this point upload the image to Commons (not wikipedia - it allows for global use  this way) but instead of adding any licence to it, add  as the licence.  Then forward the email you have, with the image attached to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org.  One of the volunteers there will check that the permission received is correct and will then update the image licence accordingly.
 * I think the problem last time was that an admin thought that the image might be freely available in which case the non free use criteria don't apply and the problem I recall seeing was that the image information said the licencing was available on the company's website but that I couldn't find it (That last bit might be wrong, I check loads of uploaded images for licences so I don't remember them all, in which case apologies).
 * When asking for permission it's important to remember that the permission must be for unrestricted use, anywhere by anyone including commercial re-use, even though wikipedia/Commons are non-commercial websites the image use policies require that images can be commercially re-used. NtheP (talk) 15:18, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for getting back to me. As my company is the copyright holder, is there any reason I can't write the permission email myself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajpether (talk • contribs) 03:25, 8 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Technically the copyright belongs to the photographer unless there was a specific contract between the company and the photographer assigning copyright to the company. So it's most likely the photographer's permission that is needed.  If there was specific assignment then yes you could write the email yourself as long as you're a senior manager of the company (I guess from the above you are, if not the owner).  The alternative is to take another photo yourself and upload it as your own work.  I'm sorry this all seems so tiresome but it's about protecting your intellectual property rights and the photogrpaher's copyright as well as Wikipedia's reputation. NtheP (talk) 10:40, 8 March 2013 (UTC)


 * My original consent email has now been accepted, so I will follow the same process with the second image and add the OTRS pending tag. Thanks. Ajpether (talk) 05:36, 11 March 2013 (UTC)