User talk:Ntsimp/Archive 4

No problem
I saw your comment on the project talk page so I thought I'd do it since there weren't that many. I completely understand your perspective about assessing articles you've worked on, I am the same way. IvoShandor (talk) 23:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Lutesville, Missouri
Hello. I see that you added Lutesville, Missouri to the Ghost town project a few months ago; as that term is defined in that article, Lutesville doesn't qualify, although there are many small towns and named places nearby that do. Lutesville is very much still a populated place, and its population is probably higher now than ever before; it is "defunct" only in the sense that it no longer exists as a political entity; it is now part of Marble Hill, Missouri. It certainly doesn't qualify as a "ghost town" in the classical sense of the phrase. I'm going to remove the project banner from Lutesville's talk page. If you feel that this action is an error or otherwise wish to discuss this with me, a response either here or on my talk page will work. Thanks and happy editing! Merenta (talk) 19:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand what you did and why. Certainly Lutesville isn't a ghost town per se, but the article does fit within the scope of WikiProject Ghost towns. I quote, "The project covers all articles about ghost towns and defunct settlements. This is to include any towns or municipalities which were absorbed by another entity." Sorry about the confusion. Ntsimp (talk) 19:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed - you are correct! My apologies. Merenta (talk) 19:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Boris Aronov
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Forest City, Utah DYK nom
Hi Ntsimp - there is a question over this DYK nom's hook which I request you to answer. The hook source doesn't specifically say it was "4 miles short." And the wording is a bit awkward - connecting what to the smelter at Forest City? Please respond at the nomination statement at T:TDYK.  Vishnava talk 

Home of Truth
I am always interested when someone discovers the Home of Truth. I am just beginning a masters thesis project on Marie Ogden and the Home of Truth. How did you come across the topic? (if you don't mind my asking.) Are you from San Juan County? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.187.0.164 (talk) 00:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I was just looking for interesting ghost towns to write articles on, and I found the short piece (just over a column) on Home of Truth in Some Dreams Die. So I started hunting for more information. If you can contribute more to the article, or suggest more good sources, please do. And no, I'm from the Wasatch Front. Ntsimp (talk) 02:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Mexican Hat, Utah
The photo request was for an image of the town, not the rock...~ WikiDon (talk) 21:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Nerve-wracking
You are, of course, quite right, Ntsimp. Several sources now accept the spelling nerve-wracking in addition to the conventional nerve-racking. (Although some don't, as well. See, for example, Bill Bryson's 2002 Bryson's Dictionary of Troublesome Words.) The etymological discordance of this alternate pains me, but I will refrain from changing the phrase. Thanks for the advice. Tim Ross  (talk)  20:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Beltana, South Australia referencing
Hi Ntsimp. That was an experiment from 2006 that I've removed now. It works (open this version. Clicking on the blue-linked reference Aird G 1984 focuses the screen on the expanded reference). A bit pointless though on an article with only one book reference - Peripitus (Talk) 22:15, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Ghost towns ratings
Just curious what criteria you're using to assess importance. I guess that's mostly notability or maybe the former scale/prominence of the town. I'll look and see what's in the mid/high/top ratings to get an idea I guess; but I think in British Columbia there's a number of towns that should be at least "high" rating, including Bralorne, which I just spotted your low rating for. Barkerville should be "top" and maybe there's one or two others in BC that should rate that, I'll think about it. The big company towns - Bralorne, Ocean Falls, Anyox, Cassiar and certain others - plus regional-capital or just really sizeable boomtowns (like Barkerville, but also Sandon and again certain others) should be "high" at least. That's from the BC perspective, of course, not the Ghost Towns project. I've been pondering for a while about using a switch-template to distinguish from ghost towns that are abandoned, some that were never much at all, those that are a shadow of their former selves, though surviving as towns (Lillooet, Hazelton, New Denver and others), or as part of larger entities (Moodyville, Gastown, Fort Langley), and those that are less than that but still there, i.e. at laest ruins or a partly-occupied town like Bralorne, Cassiar or Ocean Falls. This could maybe be a separate switch. Some that have these cat are more "ghost neighbourhoods" or "ghost localities" that weren't quite towns but which were definitely places - Kanaka Creek, for instance. If there's a particular spot on the Ghost Towns WP project pages where rating-values are discussed please let me know. Thanks.Skookum1 (talk) 14:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad to see that someone is paying attention. WikiProject Ghost towns is small and not very active; its founder just retired from Wikipedia. Here is all the guidance the project has on assessing importance. As you can see, there's a remnant there of its earlier form as a US-only project. Since I seem to be the only one doing assessment on this project, I've been trying to determine from what is written in the article and the references I can follow, how important/famous it is in the area. Unfortunately, this means most stubs end up assessed as Low importance, regardless of how accurate that is. The way I've been doing it, a ghost town with statewide (provincewide) fame gets Mid, and a nationally significant one is High. I work on Utah ghost towns myself, and I don't know much about Canadian geography. Please do correct any mis-assessments you find. Thanks. Ntsimp (talk) 15:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Sego, Utah

 * another DYK, congrats. Well done.Dave (talk) 06:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Nine Mile Canyon
I was actually thinking about this canyon on my way home from work today. I think the article is a fair representation and at least as good if not better than some of the other b-rated work I've looked at. Let me know what you think. Being my first assessment, I may have done you a disservice by not going higher.Jaromhuff21 (talk) 03:02, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:AMFV box art.jpg)
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Hiawatha, Utah
You added a webpage as a reference, however a webpage is not proof it can just be somebodies opinion. Here are the facts. In Nov of 2007 Aquila filed a lawsuit claiming Hiawatha Coal and ANR were owned by the Church. In Dec 2007 the changes were added. I assume by an affiliate of Aquila. They are going before a judge now, and the only proof that Aquila has to back up the claim is the wikipedia page. We all know how Wikipedia works and that anybody can edit it so they are trying to subpeona the individuals who added the incorrect information that is based on opinion only. Since you appear to be local I assume you won't mind going to SLC to testify. I have already contacted Elliot Finley of Hiawatha Coal (also one of the residence of Hiawatha) He has told me to just not worry about it and that they will settle it in the courts. Within the next few months I should be able to edit it with the correct information and site the courts ruling. Maybe then you guys we let the correct information stand. (comment by User:Melissarreynolds, moved from user page)

Utah Wikipedian Meetup
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Utah Wikipedia Meetup
--Admrb♉ltz (talk) 22:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC) via AWB

Propsed merger of Scofield Reservoir and Scofield Dam
I've proposed that we merge these two articles together into Scofield Reservoir, and create one good article. Please see the discussion on the talk page. Just wanted to let you know since you've made significant contributions to one or both of the articles. DeFaultRyan (talk) 19:15, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Notice:Kevin Mccurley
Hello. I see you have reverted my edits on Kevin Mccurley. Kevin Mccurley does in fact work for Southwest Cyperport- he is the founder of Digicrime.com. So, I am asking you to stop deleting my edits. Thank you. If this continues, you could be blocked. Marshall T. Williams (talk) 12:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If you go to Digicrime.com, and click on people, you will see that he is the founder of the site. It also has a dash saying thief scientist. I am not absolutely certain that that is one of his nick names, but you can classify it as to what it is. Digicrime.com is owned by Southwest Cyberport. Also, you may want to consider inserting an image of him onto the article. I am sorry for deleting his middle name. I thought it was was vandelism.


 * P.S.: When you go to digicrime.com, you will see a screen that says it is now unsafe to turn off your computer. (It's really not). After a few seconds of that, it will lead to another screen, then it will actualy take you to the site. Marshall T. Williams (talk) 23:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Do you have proof that Kevin Mccurley isn't the owner of Digicrime? I mean, Digicrime was founded in 1998, which was before Gooogle was invented, I think. So, I would like to have some proof as to why you don't belive that he isn't the founder of that site, please.

I doubt you would ever get to meet him in person, but there may be an image avalible of him that is not copyrighted. Try for it. --Marshall T. Williams (talk) 12:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Now you can add to the article that Kevin Mccurley owns digicrime.com, please. Marshall T. Williams (talk) 01:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I changed the info for Kevin Mccurley. Now, I would ask that you make the "Digicrime.com" a hyperlink. Thank you. Marshall T. Williams (talk) 01:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Digicrime
Marshall T. Williams asked me to make the reference to Digicrime in the Kevin McCurley article into a hyperlink. When I connected to the site to see what it was, I got (a) a screen saying "It is now unsafe to turn on your computer", (b) an anti-virus alert for a file called "Hoax.Java.Bluescreen", and (c) a message from Firefox that "Some plugins required by this page have been blocked for your protection". It seems "Hoax.Java.Bluescreen" is a harmless "joke", but many real viruses call themselves "hoax" and I think it's a joke in extremely poor taste and would be very alarming for an inexperienced user. So, far from making a hyperlink, I have removed the reference to Digicrime from the McCurley article, lest unsuspecting readers might be tempted to try it. I see it was Marshall who put the reference in, but I am letting you know too as the original author. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:03, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia's Expert Peer Review process (or lack of such) for Science related articles
Hi - I posted the section with the same name on my talk page. Could you take part in discussion ? Thanks ARP Apovolot (talk) 20:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)