User talk:Numbers303

ILNumerics.Net
Hi, thanks for message. You can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~. I see that another admin has contested the deletion, so I'll leave it for the time being. Problems remaining include


 * it does not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the company, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company claims or interviewing its management. Most of your text is entirely unsourced or sourced only to a blog. There's little evidence for notability either, no verifiable downloads or similar evidences.
 * it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of unsourced claims presented as fact include: The syntax is vastly compatible... Due to its strong type safety algorithms developed that way are more stable and robust at run time... achievers better execution performance than its competitors.... allows the rapid development of... several convenient debug options... yet providing much higher implementational convenience.&mdash;basically just spam
 * If you have a conflict of interest when editing this article, you must declare it.

I'll leave it for now and just tag and monitor, but if it's not improved, I'll take it to a deletion discussion

thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me?  14:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Jimfbleak! Your hints are very constructive and helpful. I will follow them and rework the article. Numbers303 (talk) 09:30, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jim, I have reworked the article and would highly appreciate a review. There have been some deletions already by other users, which I am not completely able to follow. So were references to reliable (IMO) sources and additional information removed, which would actually address most issues in the former version. It would be great if you could let me know your opinion on this. Thanks! Numbers303 (talk) 16:41, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * OK, may be tomorrow though. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  17:14, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Your edits suggest that you have some connection with this project, since you have not edited anything else. I've asked you to declare any conflict of interest. Please give a clear answer to that question. I note that you have been reverting the edits of uninvolved experienced editors like User:Qwertyus. You do not own the article, and must not edit war.
 * There is no COI. I am working in academia and teaching classes with ILNumerics for long. Thats it. But I contacted the developers to get them involved in the discussion. Sorry if anything looked like war. It was no intention! Numbers303 (talk) 10:06, 25 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Much of your text remains unreferenced, referenced to sources that are clearly repeating what the company has said, or are of dubious provenance or reliability. The claim of notability remains dubious, especially as you seem unable to add verifiable download numbers.
 * This is why I added 2 references to verifiable visibility: nuget downloads (>8000) + msdn gallery. I have also added the number of questions asked on Stackoverflow (200). Which concern do you see regarding these references? (As as side note: somehow it sounds not completely fair to judge a (young) technology by that number. I looked at other sides and such numbers are not to be found. (Never!(?)). Also, the deletion request was not regarding noticability but advertisement?) Numbers303 (talk) 10:06, 25 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Using bare urls for refs is unhelpful. Put your references in the the text following the fact each supports using.
 * Ok.


 * To sum up, you need more and better references, you need to declare any COI and you need to respect the edits of other editors rather than adopt a clearly partisan approach in defending your version of the facts. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  06:51, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * ... will take this as lesson learned :) Thanks Numbers303 (talk) 10:06, 25 November 2015 (UTC)