User talk:Nutty08

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Cut and paste page moves
Hi. I saw that you did a "cut and paste" to move the content from L'esprit de l'escalier to L'esprit d'escalier. Cut-and-paste moves are undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history. In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. However in this case there was already a page at the destination (the redirect), which requires administrator assistance.

I don't speak French, however a Google search appears to indicate that both L'esprit de l'escalier and L'esprit d'escalier are used, with L'esprit de l'escalier appearing to be significantly more common. I'm going to revert your two edits, primarily to address the cut-and-paste move issue. If you still feel the article should be moved to the new name you can edit Talk:L'esprit de l'escalier and place this at the bottom of the page:

L'esprit d'escalier

Be sure to fill in your move rationale, and any supporting evidence. You do not need to create a new section for it, nor do you need to sign the post. (On Wikipedia talk pages, you sign a message by putting ~ at the end - that is automatically converted into a name&date signature.) Other editors may comment for or against the page move, and after about a week an administrator will make the page move if appropriate. Alsee (talk) 14:45, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

L'esprit
Nutty, if you check your Petit Robert, here's what you'll find. Under "esprit", V.1. (p. 816 in my edition), l'esprit de l'escalier only; under "escalier" 1 (p. 810) we have avoir l'esprit de l'escalier (ou d'escalier), followed by the quotation "Je me suis dit nettement tout ça, mais un peu trop tard, en revenant. Ça s'appelle l'esprit de l'escalier" (Romains). The fact that Robert clearly favours and Romains uses the version with the definite article means that's the version Wikipedia should use, even if the version without the article is tolerated. Amicalement, Awien (talk) 17:24, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * (Our staircase now has a revenant as well as an esprit; all we need for our jamais deux sans trois is a fantôme). Lol! Awien (talk) 17:31, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Adding in case you might be interested too. Awien (talk) 17:41, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * As for Larousse, it gives l'esprit de l'escalier only. Awien (talk) 22:15, 10 September 2018 (UTC)