User talk:Nyttend/Archive 16

Re:Link to Mound builder (people) or Native American earthwork
In those links you changed that I had inserted, you stated in summaries that a link to mound was more helpful, but your link doesn't go to mound or to Native Americans but to Mound builder (people), a page that deals more with past misconceptions, debunked racist and religious myths, and misconceptions about many unrelated cultures than about Native Americans or mounds themselves. Why isn't Native American earthwork, which links to Native Americans and an archaeological definition for the structures, better? The actual cultures that built the mounds are linked a sentence or 2 later in the text of those articles, the Mound builder (people) article is at best a pointer to those subjects, so it really isn't needed. Just wondering what your reasoning on the matter was, regards  He  iro  04:24, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for St. Aloysius' Catholic Church (Carthagena, Ohio)
-- Cirt (talk) 12:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Little Thetford flesh-hook
Hi - you changed a category recently in Little Thetford flesh-hook from Bronze age Europe to Bronze age Britain. Can we discuss please? My reason for choosing Bronze age Europe was due the two references (9) Bowman and (10) Needham and Bowman referring to Atlantic Zone Bronze age. Do we add this article to both Bronze age Europe and Bronze age Britain? --Senra (talk) 11:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry - acknowledged wrong person my bad --Senra (talk) 13:58, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

File:3 Aerial Assault Cards.jpg
Could you please restore this image? We have received OTRS permission for it. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:57, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

converting DAB to article
I had a mental note to check the DAB page on flesh hook as it had info not appropriate for a DAB. I see you converted it to a stub. What is the mechanism? Did you simply remove the category? To put it differently, I thought of DAB as a special kind of thing, but perhaps they are simply articles with a DAB category?-- SPhilbrick  T  18:58, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Radio23
I'll get the permission emailed tomorrow. Fiedorczuk (talk) 23:54, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

The permission email has now been sent and I have added the OTRS pending tag as stipulated. Fiedorczuk (talk) 15:53, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm that an email has been received by the Radio station stating that the image is good to remain on Wiki. Fiedorczuk (talk) 14:56, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Kelleys Island, Ohio
I saw the edits on Kelleys Island, Ohio re: the external link to tripadvisor.com. Just curious as to the reasons for restoring the link. It's a commercial site that doesn't appear to contain information about the article subject - just travel-guide type content. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 23:34, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

T:ITN
Just curious, why do we need to italicise the parentheses of pictured? Nyttend (talk) 03:12, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Just to be consistent with the rest of MainPage. Almost an unwritten MOS for the MainPage to me... Anyway, thanks for putting that on ITN.  You beat me by maybe 20 seconds.... :-) --PFHLai (talk) 03:17, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Not sure who started this, but it seems that we've been italicising those parentheses on ITN for at least 4 years. (example). Time flies.... --PFHLai (talk) 03:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Undeletion request
Dear Nyttend! I have received copyright information for a map which you deleted two months ago:. It is the OTRS ticket 2010042910038237. Could you please undelete? I will take care of fixing the copyright informations. Nillerdk (talk) 08:34, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

File:Thomas Hickmon House.jpg
I agree with your assessment of the image referenced. I have requested permission from the copyright owner which has yet to manifest. Therefore, in the absence of a reply, the image perhaps should be deleted, and I apologize for my original error in the upload. King regards My76Strat (talk) 15:47, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Superior, Nebraska church
Got to Nuckolls County, Nebraska not too long ago; and per your request, sought out and photographed the church at 423 E. 5th St. in Superior. There was no address on the building or the mailbox; but it was the only building on the odd side in that block, so I assume it's the right one. The pictures are at Commons:Category:Grace Community Evangelical Free Church (Superior, Nebraska).

If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you add some categories? I've looked in vain for a good subcategory of Commons:Category:Protestant churches in the United States in which to put it. Thanks&mdash;

--Ammodramus (talk) 22:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Glad the picture's of the right church. I thought it would be, since the building clearly wasn't of very recent construction, and I checked rather carefully to make sure I wasn't being led astray by the distinction between streets and avenues or the like.


 * Surprised that there's not better categorization of churches by denomination. I'd have thought that there were enough various churches on the NRHP to lead to the development of a good category structure by people in that group, if nothing else.


 * --Ammodramus (talk) 22:57, 5 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Your point about NRHP churches tending to belong to older and more well-defined denominations is a good one, although I'm sure that some of them have been transferred to newer and fuzzier denominations, just as some have become private homes or senior centers or artists' collectives.


 * Incidentally, are the pictures adequate for your purposes? Ideally, I'd have got some pictures with the light in the east, but was in Superior at the wrong time of day for that.  I'll need to go back there in the morning at some point, since I need to shoot the west sides of the streets in Superior Downtown HD; and if you like, I can try to get some morning shots of the church.


 * --Ammodramus (talk) 23:24, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Buildings at 1200-1206 Washington Street
Hey Nyttend, I responded on the DYK/Nom page - Theornamentalist (talk) 00:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

National Register of Historic Places listings in Marshall County, Iowa
National Register of Historic Places listings in Marshall County, Iowa

Nyytend, Should we include First Church of Christ, Scientist in this list as well? I know that it is no longer standing. But it is included on the National Register of Historic Places fromn the National Park Service. Kepper66 (talk) 12:18, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

It is listed here on this site. http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/IA/Marshall/state.html Kepper66 (talk) 16:30, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay! We'll do. Thanks for directing me to the official site. Kepper66 (talk) 17:10, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

I just looked at the article. I never knew it was there. Now what do we do? Kepper66 (talk) 17:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess nothing needs to be done. I now see the article states that it was removed from the register. Kepper66 (talk) 17:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

I Need Help Creating Starting Wiki Page For Unincorporated Communities
I need a starting wiki page for some unincorporated communities in Marion County of Kansas: Antelope, Aulne, Canada, Eastshore. Is there an existing template or procedure to do this? Please point me in the right direction or point to instructions. Thanks. Sbmeirow (talk) 21:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

File:Arles portrait bust.jpg
I don't see what your problem is. You want to delete this image no matter what, clearly it should remain...Modernist (talk) 13:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I saw the copyright tag - however the photograph has been altered. It was cropped by User:Ceoil and the piece itself is from antiquity...Modernist (talk) 13:23, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Initially you objected to the original Fair use claim, which strikes me as odd considering it is a cropped photograph. It seems to me that you want this object to disappear...Modernist (talk) 13:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't replace the photo because I live on the other side of the ocean, can you? I think the image should remain under the fair use rationale until such time that it can be replaced...Modernist (talk) 13:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I added my thoughts here: Modernist (talk) 15:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

How Do I Reference Printed Historical Society Documents (Not On Internet)
What is the procedure to reference printed historical documents that are NOT on the internet? For example, some small historical booklets that were printed in the 1960's and 1970's by a local historical society. They don't have an ISBN number. Sbmeirow (talk) 02:51, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Tennispro88
Hi there. You have indefblocked this user for block evasion, which is certainly technically correct. He had a previous, similarly name account four years ago and, using it, posted a number of unarguable vandal edits. His only edits with his second account have been to remove edits from his earlier account, and I tend to feel that he is planning on being a serious editor. Do you feel like re-considering your block? The admin who made the first block has not been on wikipedia for some eleven months.-- Anthony.bradbury "talk" 11:19, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for The Simmons & Wright Company
The DYK project (nominate) 18:01, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Photos
Thanks Nyttend, I've mailed the photographer and I'm waiting for his reply.--Nuares (talk) 13:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Estes/Fertilizer
The line is from a parody song by Allan Sherman. PhGustaf (talk) 14:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary Catholic Church
The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Cassella, Ohio
The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I Hate you, Dad
Why is it an obvious hoax? Perhaps a look into the references used will convince you. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 17:23, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

New census designated places for 2010 Census
I stumbled on this earlier today when browsing through the GNIS database to expand county templates. It appears that several unincorporated communities were recently redesignated as census-designated places in several states for the 2010 Census, which will increase the number of named places with official Census data. Go to the GNIS page and search for Feature Class, Census. Most were designated in March 2010, but I've found some designated as recently as June. A few examples.
 * Nash, North Dakota[]
 * Cass County, North Dakota previously had two CDPs (Erie and Wheatland), now it has 2 more.[ Brooktree Park] and [ Embden]
 * Agency Village, South Dakota[]

There does not seem to be an official U.S. Census Bureau list of them. However, in 2008 the Census Bureau did announce changes to its policies on identifying what qualifies as a designated place for 2010 and beyond. The policy was to allowing for states to identify more areas as CDPs, subject to Census approval. Basically, any single closely settled named population center qualifies, as long as it does not have zero population or zero housing units and is composed of a contiguous area of census blocks.

I plan on adding new CDPs to the county templates and updating current articles for unicorporated places that have become CDPs as appropriate. For now, I'm going to just make a note of the addition in GNIS as the source, but may also include the following, if you think it works. In 2008, the U.S. Census Bureau updated the criteria for its Participant Statistical Areas Program to allow for additional CDPs to be included in 2010 Census (insert reference to Federal Register notice). What do you think?DCmacnut &lt; &gt; 19:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * refs to those with articles are next on my list. Thanks. I don't see a need to add a ref to those without articles just yet (as far as moves within the county templates) other than in the edit summary right now, unless you think it's needed.DCmacnut &lt; &gt; 21:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That was just me typing too fast. I've been editing and chasing my toddler around at the same time.DCmacnut &lt; &gt; 02:19, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Not usually, but tonight was a late night and we were letting our little guy run off some steam. I think I need to stop for the night before I start posting weird ramblings.DCmacnut &lt; &gt; 02:28, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I was able to look at a couple of the photos. We're out of town for the baptism of our new goddaughter this weekend and wifi at the hotel is spotty. That along with other visiting, I haven't had much time. From what I've seen so far, they turned out great just what we were looking for thanks. I'll take a closer look when I get home tomorrow. As an added bonus, though, the baptism was at a church on the NRHP in Renner, South Dakota. Took several photos, along with some of the Renner Ball Park, also on the register. There's a farm, too, but I was losing my light this evening, and didn't quite know where to go for that one. An excuse for another trip, I suppose.DCmacnut &lt; &gt;  03:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Wife kicked me out of the room while she and baby napped, so I was able to snag a few hrs of uninteruppted wiki time.DCmacnut &lt; &gt; 04:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Need a website blacklisted quickly
Hey Nyttend, I went to the recent changes list to find an online admin: you're it. It'd be much appreciated if you could add this website [Archiver's comment — URL is www.ncpdtoo.info; I've had to remove the link due to the blacklist] to the spam blacklist per this, as that link has been the target of a recent spambot who has been recently using multiple accounts to mass-add the link to many pages, and heaven knows when it'll strike again. Thanks, ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 02:49, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it's been taken care of. If I seemed a bit jumpy and demanding, I apologize. Thanks. ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 03:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Five Corners, Wisconsin/Andriy Horak
My apologies for any confusion about the Outagamie County template. In looking through my Wisconsin DeLorme atlas-I found out there were another 3 Five Corners, Wisconsin in the state of Wisconsin so I have to make the change to prevent any confusion. Also I started an article about Andriy Horak. He was an Ukrainian Orthodox bishop and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church is going through some schism. I would had done a more complete article but his obituary on his church's website is in Ukrainian. I do not know if the other foreign language Wikipedias have done an article about about him. I hope you are doing weel-RFD (talk) 13:06, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Missing photo files
Thank you for responding at the Help Desk page, but I've got them now.Pkeets (talk) 13:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Issues With Your Bulk Cleanup
You were complaining about my edits, but during your "cleanup" you delete former citizens that had references, yeah even had wiki pages, what the heck? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peabody,_Kansas

So are you saying that I can't list any cemeteries? Even the primary cemetery?

So can I create a Marion County Kansas Cemetery List page or something along those concepts....without it being delete? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbmeirow (talk • contribs) 19:27, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

http://www2.aggiesports.com/football/news/122604kimfran.htm

Can I put back Dennis Franchione using this new reference
Search for the word Peabody in this article http://www2.aggiesports.com/football/news/122604kimfran.htm which does prove he live there. Now that he is RICH, he talks it down, like he only lived in a trailer. Hmmmm, that might explain why he never invited us over until he moved into that large 2-story house, where our team did football game reviews. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbmeirow (talk • contribs) 20:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Cemeteries
I'll remove those sections from cities in Marion County, Kansas area, though grudgingly. Give me some time to do it. Sbmeirow (talk) 21:26, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I think wiki needs some type of embedded or hidden link to appropriate style guides for each wiki page
Even though Wikipedia is incredible for non-editors, it has been a major pain for me to find the right style guides. The high-level wiki editor help has monumental amounts of information, which is great, but when it comes down to knowning what to include or not-include on a wiki page, it is almost impossible to find help or styles guides because you don't know the magic words that will hit and give you the right one you need.

About the only way I get style guides or rule guides is when other editors slam me for not meeting something I didn't know about. Even though I have been editing city wiki pages for about a month, I didn't even know about the WP:USCITY.

I kind of wish that each wiki page had a special-link to the recommended style guide for that type of page, for example each city wiki page would have some type of link to WP:USCITY. What would really be useful is that when you click the EDIT button, the edit page would have a link to it. Maybe a big wish for a wiki newbie.

Sbmeirow (talk) 21:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response. No you weren't too hard on me. Yes, my edits didn't match the guidelines, so I was wrong. My statement above is a little terse likely because I've been spending a lot of time editing pages and snapped back harser than I should have. Thanks for the help!!!


 * I know that I need to refine the wiki text that I add to the city wiki's, and I'll work harder to format them more like the style guide. The wiki's for all the tiny towns in the area are so sparse that it's easy for me to get out of control adding new info since I finally got into the zone of how to edit wiki pages. I'm trying to get more people involved in Marion County city wiki's, especially history guru's, but I'm not going to hold my breath :-)


 * Sbmeirow (talk) 23:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Is it ok to add empty sections and include the Expand-section?
I noticed that Las_Cruces, New Mexico was using the Expand-section to get people to help fill in some sections. I'm not going to add all every section, like big cities, but I thought 2 or 3 might be a good idea. For the smallest incorporated towns, I wanted to add the Expand-section to the History section to get more people involved. Please look at Aulne, Kansas for unincorporated city and edit to your taste, so I can use the concept on other incorporated towns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbmeirow (talk • contribs) 00:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

How should I add location of unincorporated towns?
How should I add the coords pointing to Aulne, Kansas and other unincorporated cities? You said something about unincorporated cities were not in GR1, so how do I do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbmeirow (talk • contribs) 00:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Lanse, Michigan
I was confused if Lanse, Michigan was supposed to be incorporated into the article and mention or if it was just a redirect-hence the question mark-it was confusioning. My apologies for any confusion I caused myself. Hope you are well. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 17:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * THe wording on your user page was a misspelling of L'Annse, Michigan-I will now take it off-however, some of the redirects can be confusing with no mention in the article-Many thanks-RFD (talk) 18:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The Zipcode for L'Anse, Wichigan is:49946. That is the same Zipcode given for Lanse, Michigan. Thank you-RFD (talk) 20:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Yolanda Soares
Would you take a look at this -- at least two of us have gotten legal threats from an IP user? They don't make a lot of sense to me....
 * Talk:Yolanda Soares

(I'll be away from my desk from around 13:30EDT (17:30GMT) Friday until Saturday afternoon.) Thanks,. . Jim - Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 16:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Monitor roof
I seem to have hit a wall on sourcing for the term. I talked to people at my office, and everybody agrees on appropriate use the term: a raised, windowed or louvered portion of roof straddling a ridge or hip. Nobody knows the derivation beyond the same supposition you've proposed. I haven't found a Wikipedia-worthy source yet, but I'll keep on plugging.  Acroterion  (talk)  18:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

8 states (with pix) trip
Just back and worn out - I'd forgotten how much work it is to upload and properly place pix. Pix in Illinois (Champaign-Urbana, and Quincy), MO, KS, CO, NE, IA, KY (1?), TN. I may have finished off Denver (the whole thing), but 2 pix are a bit iffy, e.g. a pix of a gate that says "Touch this gate at your own risk." I'll contact the Denver guy, who does great pro-level work and looks like he's done 200+ pix there, and see what he thinks. Smallbones (talk) 20:48, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, User:Denverjeffrey. With so many and such high quality pictures, I'd think he must be a bit protective (no bad faith suggested), and might look down on my poor quality snaps. Well, nothing to do but get down to uploading and show him the damage!  Smallbones (talk) 21:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Didn't get to Wyoming. It looks like you have some interest in this as well. Take your choice of 3 bad choices
 * File:Richthofen Castle 2.JPG
 * File:Richthofen Castle 1.JPG
 * File:Richthofen Gatehouse.JPG
 * The last 2 are misleading. 1 is just the top of a tower through the trees, and the castle as a whole doesn't look like that. Gatehouse is just a separated off property that doesn't reflect the whole. My wife is kicking me off the computer for an hour or so.  I'll be back.  Smallbones (talk) 22:04, 16 July 2010 (UTC)


 * All but 1 are complete in Denver, but it's a shame we can't get a Henry Roth House. I did find this, but it is neither a reliable source, nor free of copyright. You don't happen to have a Henry Roth House pix, do you? Smallbones (talk) 02:07, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Lincoln Center, Kansas should be moved or renamed to Lincoln, Kansas
It looks like someone expanded out the OLD city name from the 1800's, instead of using the common name of Lincoln. I know that Marion, Kansas use to be called Marion Center or Centre back in the 1800's, but no one uses that name either. I am just letting you know about this because I sure don't know how to fix it. Sbmeirow (talk) 23:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC)


 * thanks for checking. here is the official KDOT map, and they don't use the word Center, see 7.5,C on the map, SW of Salina. http://www.ksdot.org/burtransplan/maps/state-pdf/kansas0910.PDF the city of lincoln web site don't even call themselves Lincoln Center so that says something right there of which one is likely commonly used http://www.lincolnks.org/  anyway not my mess, just though i should report it Sbmeirow (talk) 00:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Naming conventions for United States federal buildings
You opinion is welcome at Requests for comment/Naming conventions for United States federal buildings. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:31, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Pittsburgh Landmarks
Hi Nyttend, since you have contributed quite a few images of historic buildings in the Pittsburgh area, I though you'd like to know that 1) the Pittsburgh History and Landmarks Foundation table of Historic Landmarks now has all 538 plaque recipients entered and 2) there is a discussion about whether the City designated landmarks (99 of them including districts) and the PHLF landmarks should be split into two separate list articles. Your opinion on the matter, under discussion on the talk page, would be valued. CrazyPaco (talk) 21:21, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Sock puppet advice
Not sure the appropriate venue, but there's a blocked editor using sock IPs to circumvent his block The problem is the edits are updating historical cenus populations, primarily for North Dakota communities, and while edit summaries are lacking, the contributions are valuable. You can see his most recent comment on my talk page. I came across his edits where he was counting township population as a city population, so I reverted. But most are accurate when I compare the original US census data. His most recent string his here and the previous here. Both IPs are one's he acknowledges using on his talk page.

It appears the editor was indefinitely blocked a long time ago, and won't or can't use the proper unblock procedures. I sent him a friendly warning today that he should avoid using IPs to get around his block. Since his talk page mentions you, I thought I'd inquire. I don't intend to revert any of his valid edits, but also don't want to condone an editor blatantly violating policy.DCmacnut &lt; &gt; 02:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The blocked user is someone else entirely unrelated to the Iowa thing. User:Rossdegenstein. Apparently he's been blocked for several reasons, including treating Wikipedia has his personal web page. He's been circumventing the block by editing from a variety of IP addresses. I was just curious. His edits to population data are by and large accurate and good additions. But since he was circumventing a block, my concern was that he would continue to tick off other editors which could lead to some problems. He doesn't seem to be entirely up on proper citations and edit summaries, but when it comes to the historical populations I don't think any of us are good about providing sources for each decennial census.DCmacnut &lt; &gt; 16:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries. It's not that big of a deal to me. I watch a majority of ND articles, so I'll just keep my eye out. On the cemetery, we should have some additional information for you today or tomorrow, and the findagrave website was just updated with some new info.DCmacnut &lt; &gt; 17:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

NRHP talk pages
Hey Nyttend, I've noticed you create NRHP articles alot (see User:AlexNewArtBot/NRHPSearchResult) but you rarely if ever create the associated talk page. It is generally common practice to add any NRHP article to relevant wikiprojects, as explained here. Adding these templates to the talk page allows for more accurate calculations of the "quality" of the project. I'm not like harping on your or anything, but I noticed it.. just making sure you knew.--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 08:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Now I'm harping. You're still not creating the talk pages..--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 15:27, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Missed you!
Glad you're still contributing. Miss your influence on individual articles sometimes, but at least you're still around! Student7 (talk) 19:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Surprising edit
I was going to retag File:Systel Inc twin server.JPG as no permission which fastily has added but was surprised to see you removed it with this edit when clearly the uploader User:Mauliknk has provided no permission from Systel inc the copyright holder according to the source link http://systelusa.com/eirm-ipc4116.html given. Even though the source is in the description field and the source shows only the uploader's name, so obviously the "no permission" tag was correct. Don't you agree? ww2censor (talk) 04:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Can I put Miss Kansas winners in Notable natives and residents of a City?
Can I put Miss Kansas winners in Notable natives and residents section of a City? See Miss Kansas. Sbmeirow (talk) 03:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

National Register of Historic Places listings in Champaign County, Illinois
Please let me know what you think of my sidewalk experiment, it should jump out at you. All the best. Smallbones (talk) 04:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, the nomination forms stress the sidewalks e.g., and the brass plaque is on (and refers to) the sidewalk, not the buildings. Why else do you think I took photos of a sidewalk?  Still, it's an odd photo in bad light.  I'll probably put it in an article on the site(s).  I'm inclined to put the 2 buildings together in one article (the sidewalks are about 15 yards long total).  Thanks for the feedback.  Smallbones (talk) 14:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

PA historical plaques
I added Beaver County for you: List of Pennsylvania state historical markers in Beaver County. Remember, the markers are copyrighted and, like sculptures, likely won't pass non-free image review when added to these tables if the plaques are the subject of the photos (see here). CrazyPaco (talk) 18:49, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * See your mound dyk. — Dog The Teddy Bear • Bully!  • 12:28, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Pity the Fool
Dear Nyttend

I put up a page called 'Pity the Fool' about 3 to 4 months back, the admins requested the page for speedy deletion because the page had no evidence that the band is notable according to the criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (music). Please see my recent comment, I had to wait for a new Ptf song to be released and now it is on the charts, please can you assist me in getting the page up again. Thank you

Kind regards Danielptf (talk) 20:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * You've made this request elsewhere and signed yourself Daniel Raubenheimer. That's a member of the band to which you're referring. If you're him, you shouldn't be involved in creating the article, 'cause it's conflict of interest, dude. Just sayin'. Also, new comments go at the bottom of a talk page, just so's you know. --Ebyabe (talk) 21:52, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Need a Pair of Eyes
Per the Stephens City FAC, I wrote an "Ecomony" section for the Stephens City, Virginia page. I just need someone to look over the facts and information, tinker if needed and let me know if anything needs fixed. It is all done by the information of the US Census. If you are busy with another project, let me know and I will track down another admin, no worries. You can find the page at User:Neutralhomer/Sandbox3. Thanks... Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 02:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * All right, I added some words in front of those sentences that started with numbers, checked my captialization and threw the whole section in a Word document and spell checked it (only the reference name came out wrong, to my amusement). Would you mind giving it another once-over, please? -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 03:17, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Those are actually the categories given like "Arts, Entertainment, Recreation, Accommodation and Food Services", that is one whole category given in the Census information, so I am slightly unsure how to fix that. It isn't all capitalized on the Census information (like I had it previously), but I capitalized it all as I thought that is what you meant (and it looked better when I thought about it).  What should I do or what that be a better question for Ruhrfisch? -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 03:37, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I like the all lower caps idea. I will ask Ruhrfisch what he thinks and go from there.  Thanks Dude! :) -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 03:43, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Henry Roth House
Denverjeff was kind enough to point out that I got 5 North vs. the real 5 South Fox Street. I knew something was wrong with it but just couldn't figure out what. It would have been the final pix for all of Denver. And I was only a half block away! On the other hand, DJ has taken a pix ( here - see my talk page), but it looks a lot like the Richthofer Castle - all trees, no house. I guess it just wasn't meant to be - I was dragging my wife all over town taking these quickie shots, and ... DJ says that he might go back at Christmas (when the leaves are off) ... Do you have a trick-shot hidden in an old folder somewhere? Any other possibilities? I really wanted an entry on fully - illustrated lists like "Denver (all of it, including 4 subdivisions)" Smallbones (talk) 03:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I put the Speer shot into SE Denver - it is in 2 other parts of the city. Feel free to ask DJ to release the Roth pix - I think he is a bit of a perfectionist (perhaps thats why I was a bit afraid of stepping on his toes).  Good to hear about your driving.  Mrs S was quite understanding about the Denver - Hannibal part of the trip (with the exception of Iowa City and Keokuk), but the last 3 days were a bit much for both of us.  We decided - no more joint 7+ day driving trips for at least another 5 years!
 * BTW - One of those things about NRHP that makes you say hmm ... Why does Iowa City have 100+ sites, when Chicago only has about 300?  Smallbones (talk) 04:26, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoops, the Roth photo is "Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic" license - is that good enough? Smallbones (talk) 04:30, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, go for it! Smallbones (talk) 04:42, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, guys, thanks for your messages. Nyttend, if you think that my Flickr picture of Denver's Henry Roth house is good enough, then yes, by all means, feel free to grab it from Flickr and upload it. That'll be great to have all the Denver pictures finished. By the way, next month or in September I plan to visit Pitkin County, Colorado (Aspen) and hope to get a bunch of shots there. Thanks again, Jeffrey Beall 11:16, 26 July 2010 (UTC).
 * I've uploaded it from Flicker at File:Henry Roth House Denver.jpg and put it into the list. It might need Flicker Review or something of the sort. Smallbones (talk) 16:03, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I put an announcement/discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places. BTW, my hidden motive in combining the lists may be that, someday, I want to have Philadelphia on the top of the list of fully illustrated lists - only about 200 photos to go!  Smallbones (talk) 18:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Zaleski Mound Group
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:02, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Beaver Co. PA markers
There are only two possibilities for the marker you showed me: it is either a local marker or the PHMC database is incomplete. After combing through the PHMC database, I have to say it seemed very up-to-date and complete, even listing very old missing markers.The shape and design of that marker suggests it is either not a PA state historical marker or it is a very old one. My guess is that it would be a local marker. CrazyPaco (talk) 09:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

What do I do?
Hi, I was wondering what to do about O Fenian at McKownville. I dont think it is fair that one editor can make a change to an article and then just be stubborn and refuse to accept consensus even though his original change never had consensus. Is there any way you can end this? Please!Camelbinky (talk) 23:31, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I knew your name was familiar though... I figured it was from the RS/N or OR/N or one of the policy pages since those are where I am familiar with Dmcq, Kotniski, and Fences names from. My apologies.Camelbinky (talk) 19:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Image hoax
You deleted File:BUNT BAND.jpg as a hoax. I'm not sure how this image can be considered a hoax. Certainly, the article that included the image is likely a hoax, as it makes some very extravagant unfounded claims about the popularity of this band. I believe the band to be a group of tweens (based on the band's "official site") who are trying to bolster their own image and egos with this page. That doesn't mean they don't exist, and that the image provided is not actually the art they have used on their album. It's not clear that there was any evidence that the image constituted a hoax, even though the article clearly is. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:16, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

file:1948 Dragon.png
Hi,

I appologies for using the Hangon tag for (among others) above file. The problem is that the link is removed (twice) from the only page where it was used. As a result a bot labeled it as an orphan. I'm trying to keep it since it is a essential part of information within the article sailing at the 1948 Summer Olympics. Can you please advice how to avoid deletion?

Regards, NED33 (talk) 18:08, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

WP:MPS
Ask and ye shall receive. I put it on WT:NRHP. Einbierbitte (talk) 22:25, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Bristol, Wisconsin
On June 29, 2010, the village of Bristol, Wisconsin voted to annex the town of Bristol in Kenosha County, Wisconsin effected July 4, 2010. I made the neccessary changes and the old town of Bristol article will eventually be redirected into the village article. A small section of the old town of Bristol was annexed to the village of Pleasant Praire. Question=was the Lake Shangrila CDP also annexed into the village of Bristol? According to my DeLorme Wisconsin atlas part of it may be in the town of Salem and other half in Bristol.[ Also the now former unincorporated communities of [[Pikeville, Wisconsin]] and Woodworth, Wisconsin that were in the old town will have to be incorporated into the article. I hope you are doing well-Thank you-RFD (talk) 23:26, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Drunksailor's image uploads
I have noticed that you recently removed deletion tags on images by on grounds that the copyright tag added was enough to indicate that the image was the uploader's own work. Unfortunately I still have concerns on if these images are actually free, and have listed them at WP:PUF, with my concerns given in the nominations. CT Cooper · &#32;talk 11:53, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Love Me (Beyoncé Album)
I've declined the A7 and A9 speedy tags that you placed on this article; A7 doesn't apply to musical recordings, and A9 only applies to recordings by people who don't have Wikipedia articles. Nyttend (talk) 16:00, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It is not a confirmed name, it is not a tentative name, all time Knowles will release an album, fans always title it "Love Me", it fails A7. Tb hotch Ta lk C. 02:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * By the other hand it is deleted now. Tb hotch Ta lk C. 02:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Musical recordings, whether confirmed or not, aren't individuals, animals, organizations, or web content. It plainly wasn't a very short article with insufficient context, since it linked to the artist, so it shouldn't have been deleted.  Nyttend (talk) 02:56, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It deserved the deletion, unfortunatly the CSD for WP:Crystal/ Obvious misinformation/ fancruft does not exist. As an admin you can check the source, it does not says "Beyoncé will release the album 'Love Me' in October". Tb hotch Ta lk C. 03:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Kohen
Why did you delete my post? I added valuable information that was sourced very well.

I will report you if you do this again. Please respond and talk to me prior to deleting my posts.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ventura488 (talk • contribs)
 * Just so you're aware, has now been blocked for 3RR violation. Jayjg (talk) 04:24, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for correcting my changes to the county templates. I didn't know there was a specific order, so I will now leave the order alone. Sbmeirow (talk) 03:51, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Please respond to my question above "Can I put Miss Kansas winners in Notable natives and residents of a City?", which I forgot to sign. I'm not FOR or AGAINST listing them, just wanted to know the answer so I can follow it. Sbmeirow (talk) 03:51, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Tom McRae promo release articles.
Re articles based on promo singles such as Four Songs From 'The Obscure' Nominee. This was a white lable promo sent out for pr - NOT a release! db-a9 was added as the page does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. Tom McRae has a page - this is not in question - please see WP:CSD (A9). Thanks. Snoop God (talk) 10:21, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Deleted
You deleted the Talk page of the map of Arabic dialects, claiming that the map has been deleted, although it has not. Enlighten us. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.158.113 (talk) 15:51, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Hartford City Historic District
Yes, I will finish the HC Courthouse Square Historic District, probably in September. I am waiting for some info from the Blackford County Historical Society and more info from the National Register of Historic Places. (Sometimes sources conflict!) I also have some vacation coming up. My possible next article is HC's courthouse -- it is also in the National Register. If you have some suggestions for the HC Historic District or my writing style in general, please let me know. I have never been able to get above a B in an article, and have now received two Cs in a row -- so I must be doing something wrong (or not right). TwoScars (talk) 17:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Soverign prime
I note that you speedy deleted Southern prime. The creator was complaining about his competitor having a page (irrelevantly, of course) and I thought you might like to know that after taking a look at the competitor's refs that I have AfD'ed the competitor as well. Just FYI, no response needed. Regards,  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 17:20, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Feodosiy Petsyna
You mention that you know about interwiki links involving the other Wikipedia that are in different languages. An Unkrainian Orthodox Bishop Feodosiy Petsyna died on July 23, 2010 and the German Wikipedia has a stub about him. I was wondering if this stub can be translated into English and brought over to our Wikipedia. There is a redlink at recent deaths for Feodosiy Petsyna on July 23, 2010 in our Wikipedia. There is some sort of schism involving the Ukrainian Orthodox Church and the Russian Orthodox Church is involved. Please let me know otherwise I will try to create the stub. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 17:54, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for your help-there was another Ukrainian Orthodox Bishop Andriy Horak that I was able to start an article but I was able to find an English reference; this bishop had no English reference but turn up on the German Wikipedia-RFD (talk) 20:32, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :)
Thanks for reverting the inappropriate tags on the image files.NMKuttiady (talk) 08:54, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Oversight screenshot
I do remember there once was one, but maybe it was removed for a reason? I haven't really consulted with the other oversighters on this, and I'd prefer some sort of consensus to back it up. Daniel Case (talk) 15:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

same name same county
Sorry not to have followed up on this issue for a long time, after i promised i would draft an RFC. I've kept it in mind as one of several open editorial decision issues. Just now I opened a discussion section on the "same name same county" issue at wt:NRHP, trying to be relatively neutral, and hoping to settle the issue well enough just within wp:NRHP. Could you comment there, please? I gave as example the pair of Octagon House places in Fairfield County, CT because I have been focussing on that list-article. I think that might suffice, or perhaps you might think another pair or two would be also important to consider, that bring out different aspects of the issue. I'd be open to having a wider RFC still, too. Regards. --doncram (talk) 22:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Also besides Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places, please see also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places. These are other NRHP list-article editorial issues.  Thanks! --doncram (talk) 17:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Nyttend's internet connection was hit by lightning on the night of 8/3, so it might be a couple before he can respond. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 17:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh my, about the lightning strike! Hey, Nyttend, ples do participate in the discussion.  What brings me here is this edit by you, calling the same-name-same-county treatment an error, when it is not, it is deliberate.  I accumulated all the cases for a long time, and opened a discussion properly, and called your attention to the discussion.  Please participate there!  :) --doncram (talk) 02:10, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

meetup?
Hi there,

I got your name from the Meetup/Ohio 1 page. I will be in Columbus Aug 8-11 and was wondering if any Wikimedians would be interested in meeting up then. If so, I started Meetup/Ohio 2 for quick planning :) best, -- phoebe / (talk to me) 17:35, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Nyttend's internet connection was hit by lightning on the night of 8/3, so it might be a couple before he can respond. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 17:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK query
Hello! Your submission of Charles Wintzer Building at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 20:50, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!! Great job on the article by the way.  Cheers,    A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 21:05, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Nicholasville Confederate Memorial
Yeah, I bet someone just forgot when they made the later application. Still, it's interesting. It seems like the situations we've discovered so far are the only three in the country. I'm sure there are more, though. Daniel Case (talk) 02:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Was the later nomination prepared by the same person or persons? Sometimes that's a factor. Daniel Case (talk) 02:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Might be a case of right hand, left hand. One was working on Civil War memorials; another on a survey area. Do we know what their credentials were? Daniel Case (talk) 02:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. So they both have some real creds. If one or both had been local I could have understood (I do find it amusing sometimes reading the noms from earlier years when they were usually prepared by local people with a lot more enthusiasm for what they were doing than professionalism in doing it). Then again, since they were MPSes and the actual apps don't have names, maybe they were prepared by staffers or local people, and someone had forgotten about the district in the meantime. Daniel Case (talk) 04:48, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

This one for Gilfillan Farm near Pittsburgh is one of my favorites. The woman writing it was, it seems, a local realtor whose preservationist impulses cannot be faulted, but who badly needed to have it explained to her that she was writing for a government entity full of very serious people. There's an awful lot of la-de-dah stuff but I really had to search through it for the useful information. I've always been very impressed by the people New York's OPRHP gets doing this stuff. Very professional and sometimes their insights have made it into articles and become DYK hooks (I like Neil Larson's especially). Daniel Case (talk) 05:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I haven't had to look up any PA noms in a while; lately I've been working on CT ones in between my current goal of getting the Orleans County, NY, list fully illustrated mostly with pics I took on the last weekend of June. Daniel Case (talk) 06:00, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: My Internet connexion
No worries. Glad no one was hurt when your internet and phone got struck. I do know that Walmart has some cheap-o phones, if you just need a phone. They run about $12.00 and have caller ID available and work pretty good. We have one and it does the trick, last a couple days on a single charge (it is cordless). If it is wiring, then that is definitely the phone company. If you have Verizon for phone, expect a week or more with them, they are kinda slow. But think of it this way, at least no telemarketers will be calling you at all hours. :) Take Care... Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 08:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
 Set Sail For The Seven Seas   186° 27' 30" NET   12:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: NLD code update
Any ideas on how to fix this code? - No. At least it is working now. feydey (talk) 12:58, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorting the "fully-illustrated" list
I had thought the convention in WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/full illus list was to sort first by decreasing number of listings, then chronologically. That's the way it has been, but I see you changed the chronological sorting to alphabetical. Maybe it should be redone as a table with options to sort on various columns? Ntsimp (talk) 16:14, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK: Goll Homestead
Hello! Your submission of Goll Homestead at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yworo (talk) 00:00, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

That ALT1 hook looks much more interesting. :-) If you get a chance, would you mind reviewing my nomination, Joseph Henry Sharp, closer to the top of the Aug 7 list than yours. After the trouble I gave you, I'm sure you'll apply the same critical eye to mine as I did to yours. Yworo (talk) 03:08, 8 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Good catch, I used the wrong reference (oops). But given that I had two sources, one saying Roosevelt was involved and one saying he wasn't, I've added more references. There are multiple sources saying Roosevelt made the arrangements, and a good source showing that Roosevelt commissioned 200 paintings from Sharp and confirming it was the Indian Commission, not just an individual agent, which did the building. I've provided an alternate hook using the word "arranged" rather than "supported" and making it clear that the actual work and expense was provided by the Indian Commission. Hopefully this will meet with your approval. Yworo (talk) 16:21, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Christopher C. Walker House and Farm
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 12:05, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Please see File:Minquas Path Rose Valley.JPG on List of Pennsylvania state historical markers in Delaware County
I thought of you on this because I put a "Native American Archeology" tag on it at commons. Any comment or expressed concerns welcome. Smallbones (talk) 23:51, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: Help with an out-of-state topic?
I would be glad to help write a short article on it - I feel bad as I have still not translated Penns Cave. What length article were you thinking of? It will take me several days. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:59, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * DYK length should be no problem. I am a bit intimidated by having to read a 316 page book ;-) Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:17, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I have written to the NRHP for forms before - it takes them several days. I am pretty busy in real life too right now - will work on Penns Cave in one of my sandboxes (finally figured out Ask ReGIS so I have that form). Congrats on grad school, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 12:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Just a question. Airplaneman  ✈  23:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Baptist convention of Indiana
Hello Nyttend,

Would you please consider reinstating the "State Convention of Baptist in Indiana"? The following link shows how each state convention is a part of the Southern Baptist Convention. Southern Baptists are the largest evangelical denomination in the world. As I read the standard the state conventions they seemed to qualify for notability. I have also linked the web site for each state convention on the page I created. The bulk of information mentioned on the wiki page is verified on the state convention web pages. Thanks again for your help. Please let me know how I am to proceed.


 * I would certainly like to try Nyttend. I am also trying to recruit help.  I truly believe that understanding what the state conventions believe and how many churches are in them is helpful to wiki users.  This information assist others in understanding how Southern Baptists work.  In addition to size, I also mentioned entities the conventions own and operate.  There is also a link to what they believe.  Information was also provided on how the SBC state convention cooperate together.  Please consider restoring the pages so that I can work on them further.  Thank you  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toverton28 (talk • contribs) 05:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Village in MN
I don't think there unincorporated communities either. I'll look it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph507357 (talk • contribs) 15:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

I see what you mean.Village (United States) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph507357 (talk • contribs) 13:01, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

NRHP titles
I noticed someone moved the article Ohio State Normal College At Kent to Ohio State Normal College at Kent citing "correcting name spelling and grammatical error". As far as I remember, the actual NRHP form did have the "at" capitalized (which is why the article was titled the way it was). I can't find the copy of the form I have to verify that. The question is, should we hold to the exact title from NRHP when it isn't a normal use of capitalization or should we stick with the actual title as on the forms regardless of the "norms" of capitalization? --JonRidinger (talk) 20:24, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The NRHP's website is acting all borky, so I went to Ohio and this is the link to the "Ohio State Normal College At Kent" registry information and the "at" is capitalized. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 20:34, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * A little more digging on the Ohio Historical Society website shows if you want the actual application in PDF file, it will cost you four bits. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 20:41, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I used to have a hard copy of the nomination form but somehow it disappeared from my collection (free to get from the National Park Service, but takes forever). I do remember "at" being capitalized because it surprised me.  I was just wondering which policy trumped the other here: "normal" capitalization rules or the actual title. --JonRidinger (talk) 20:47, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Stark County
Thanks for the note, Nyt. I was born in Massillon and raised in the area and visit there a couple of times a year. When I was there a couple of weeks ago, I got pics of most of the sites I hadn't already photographed on previous trips. There are still a few to go, but it's getting there. Most of my photo efforts are out here in the Bay Area. I've pretty well covered San Francisco, Marin, Sonoma, Contra Costa and Alameda Counties at this point. Next comes the peninsula. I know that you've been quite busy in many parts of Ohio. Keep up the good work! --sanfranman59 (talk) 03:27, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Kannapolis
Please see my note at Talk:Kannapolis, North Carolina. Thanks. --Golbez (talk) 12:40, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Baptist Conventions
Hi,

I am cross posting to this to both your and Malik Shabazz Talk page as you both have been involved.

Can I have your views on the other state Baptist Conventions that Toverton28 has been working on, he has gone quiet over the last few days, and would like to give him time to fix them.

I noticed that Ltwin recommended working on them as user pages, which seems like a good idea - is it worth userfying all of the existing ones plus the ones already deleted ? Codf1977 (talk) 10:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Portal:Anime and Manga
Sorry about the db-tagging, I used the wrong tags for the redirects. I didn't even know db-r1 even existed; it wasn't in the csd criteria, and so I mixed it up with db-r3. Would those subpages still qualify for quick deletion under db-r3 anyway? :| TelCo NaSp  Ve :|  21:39, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

john edwards double bassist deleted
Hello Nyttend, i am upset you deleted the article i created for john edwards. he is the most important double bassist for free jazz/free improvisation music in the uk if not europe/world. i have listed over 50 records of his on indie free jazz labels since the 80s, the peguin jazz book listed him, and all his collaberators have their own wiki articles, and he is still considered as insignificant? does wiki only exist for popstars and celebraties? please refer to Emanem Records,everyone else who he has played with already has their articles!

Thanks, Yibo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Write2yibo (talk • contribs) 22:06, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi again, John edwards is a very low key artist, never takes any interviews. and because he is in the supporting role (but critical to have) of a double bass player in any musical ensembles, he is not featured as the main musician in tv/radio. this is why there are not much information on him online. Failing to satisfy the notability guidelines is not a criterion for speedy deletion. instead in the criterion for speedy deletion, it was listed that if a musician has cds under important indie labels, he will be considered significant. i am surprise you just delete regardlessly without referring to the 50 cds listed under several indie record labels, all of them are on wiki. do you do backups when you delete? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Write2yibo (talk • contribs) 22:31, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I am referring to the below:

Criteria for musicians and ensembles 5. Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable). In this case JE had over 50 albums on a couple of important indie labels. He should be fitting the criteria. Also,number six is relavent also: ''6. Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles.''

(¬¬¬¬) hi again, i referred to the 'penguin guide to jazz on cd' book as one of the references. may i ask what references do you require? also if you can userfy the deleted article to me it would be reallyreally useful. since i have listed over 50CDs and it is very difficult to get them together again. not to mention there are another 50+ thats not even been put on to the original article. thanks, Yibo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Write2yibo (talk • contribs) 01:34, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK? nomination guidance
Nyttend, I just finished an article entitled Princess Victor of Thurn and Taxis and as you will see if you have time to take a look at it, there is a lot going on in terms of notable hook material. Because of your expertise in crafting delectable hooks for DYK?, I was wondering if I could pick your brain as to the best way to encapsulate several of the article's notable points into a single hook. I'm going seek the guidance of a few other editors, but wanted you to be my first stop! Thanks again for all you do for Wikipedia! --Caponer (talk) 01:57, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! Thank you so much for your timely response! I just happened upon several news articles from Pennsylvania newspapers scans on ancestry.com... it looks like I'm not finished with this article after all ;) I'll keep you posted on its status until I nominate ;) Thanks again Nyttend, you're the best! --Caponer (talk) 02:21, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I found her death date in the Uniontown, Pennsylvania newspaper, the Evening Standard. I know her birth year and am still looking for the exact date, but I'll ensure they are added to the article post haste! ;) --Caponer (talk) 02:47, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hence why I used the safest, "Princess Victor of Thurn and Taxis," as the article title. She was referred to as "Leonora" in one New York Times article, but known as "Princess Lida" in several local Pennsylvania newspapers. In most New York Times articles, she is either referred to as "Princess of Thurn and Taxis" or "Princess Victor of Thurn and Taxis." Since Leonora was used once, I decided to go with Lida, but the discovery of additional sources may call for further modifications. Thanks again for all your assistance Nyttend! I've nominated it for DYK! I'll continue expanding the article tomorrow, but for the sake of DYK, it's finished ;) --Caponer (talk) 04:15, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Charles Wintzer Building
The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Hossein Omoumi
Hi. May I ask you to reconsider your speedy deletion of this? I deleted as copyvio a much fuller article about him, and then decided that he was in fact notable, and made this stub as a start for a non-copyvio article. I think the sourced assertions in the stub (Professor at UC Irvine, concert performer on the ney) are enough to pass A7, and as far as full notability goes,

shows references in News, Books and Scholar. There are also references to him in several WP articles, and a substantial article in Farsi WP (not that I can read it). Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:21, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Dayton Masonic Center
Hey, it appears that Dayton Masonic Center has an NRHP plaque on it (per this). Can you possibly tell what historic district it might be in, out of those listed in National Register of Historic Places listings in Dayton, Ohio? Its address is 525 W. Riverview Ave.; google satellite view here. Thanks in advance! --doncram (talk) 21:05, 18 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I didn't realize the photo was yours! Thanks for that, and pointing me to Steele's Hill-Grafton Hill Historic District.  I developed the Dayton Masonic Center article a bit, and think it seems important enough to keep as a separate article, but i may not develop it much more myself now.  Hopefully well-qualified Ohioans may take it further, eventually.... :) --doncram (talk) 09:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Missing sections of the Alabama ZIP code list
I noticed that your ZIP code completion list for Alabama has been missing a few sections since you created it. Every ZIP code from 362-365 was missing until I added them back in a while ago; I thought that was it until I noticed a large chunk of the 360s was missing today. I suspect the original article was vandalized before it was deleted, and I'm not sure if any other sections are missing. Since I'm not an admin, could you please find the pre-blanking revision of List of ZIP Codes in Alabama and put it in a subpage of my user page (User:TheCatalyst31/Alabama, let's say) so I can sort out the rest? (I got the other missing communities from an archived version of the original page, but it's not formatted and I can't practically check the whole list from there for missing parts.) TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 22:49, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I think I replaced all of the missing ones now (there were quite a few, and they were scattered about for some reason). TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 23:20, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Noticed this, sparked my curiosity and checked the link above. If you need any help with some of the Virginia towns please let me know.  I am a member of WP:Virginia, so I can help and am always looking for a new project.  Just tell me what kind of information you are wanting on the page and I will take a crack at a few. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 23:58, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Declined speedy of Skydrift Air Charter
G'day from Oz; I just want to point out that Skydrift Air Charter is not actually an airline, but the airborne equivalent of a small taxicab company. Just about any airport serving a major city in the Western world will have at least one, if not several, of this type of company based there. The refs establish nothing other than that it exists, has some aeroplanes and is licenced by the regulator to operate commercially. The bulk of the edits have been made by Users who haven't made edits to any other articles on WP, so I think it's safe to assume that they have a connection with the company. In short, I thought it was a pretty-clear-cut and non-contentious candidate for an A7 speedy. YSSYguy (talk) 00:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Goll Homestead
Courcelles 12:02, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Protest of Deletion of Kieran Powell (Ventriloquist)
As a relativley new Wikipedia member I would like to question the deletion of [:Kieran Powell (Ventriloquist)]] as I feel the reasons we gave where justified. Further more I did check the compliance of the page alongside A7. Firstly I feel that [:Kieran Powell (Ventriloquist)]] is well known enough as shown by general Google results and external links. Secondly the main output of the page was to explain the creativity of [:Kieran Powell (Ventriloquist)]]. E.g. Puppets & shows. Please reconsider, or justify this deletion in order that I may clearly know why it has been deleted, as I have already checked the A7 article and have found that in my opinion it complies. Regards, Roryjamesgordon

Seven Ranges Terminus
I know how to get there. I'll introduce myself to the neighbors in winter when the poison ivy dies. Roseohioresident (talk) 22:01, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for John H. Nichols House
The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

YO
The people from the Ganley team authorized the use of the image, how do I entitle it so it will not be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ak169808 (talk • contribs) 00:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Deleting Pages
Please explain why you deleted the CCYHL and CDYHL league pages and the difference between them and others that are out there for example the Capital Beltway Hockey League (CBHL) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_Beltway_Hockey_League_(CBHL) —Preceding unsigned comment added by HockeyCoach80014 (talk • contribs) 01:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I really don't see a difference between this article and the one you cited. Normally I don't delete articles that other people haven't tagged for speedy deletion (even though I'm permitted to do it), so I'm not inclined to delete the Capital Beltway Hockey League (CBHL) article without input from someone else. Nyttend (talk) 04:47, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

So if the two articles were similar then I don't understand why these were deleted. I would like to request that this is undone. HockeyCoach80014 (talk) 05:07, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

My point was that the other page may well be equally worthy of deletion; I've just not done it, and (because I'm not required to delete pages) I don't want to do it under the present circumstances. If you believe that it shouldn't have an article, please feel free to nominate it for speedy deletion, if and only if you believe that it meets the criteria spelled out here. Please understand, by the way, that the existence of an article on a topic doesn't necessarily mean that there should be an article on that topic; this essay is a good explanation of this point. Nyttend (talk) 05:22, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

No I believe that article should exsist. I also believe the ones that were deleted should also exsist. How do I get them undeleted? HockeyCoach80014 (talk) 05:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Alkafleg SB13
You deleted as no context, but the context seems obvious to me: its a tope of commercially produced glider plane. (It does of course need sources) See  for background.  DGG ( talk ) 04:32, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * it was sone of the dozens of speedies, prods, and AfDs proposed by the ed involved with automated tools, without paying attention to the requirements. Most, but not all, of them were Iranian figures in various professions. Most of them have already been de-tagged and, if deleted, undeleted. It's isn't G11, because any promotional elements can be removed.  (I know I have the ability to undelete it myself, but I want to ask you first, as I always do.)    DGG ( talk ) 04:45, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Van Wert Bandstand
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

George Wiland speedy deletion removal
I see you removed the Speedy Deletion tag for the George Wiland article, based on the possibility of the references indicating notability. I checked the references out and they were either dead or they pointed to pages that didn't say anything about Wiland. Given that the basis for notability is weak even if the references are valid (donating blood, a presidential elector), I think the article is a good candidate for deletion in one form or another. --Beirne (talk) 03:05, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I've proposed it for deletion. --Beirne (talk) 04:06, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Paulding County Courthouse (Ohio)
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:04, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Coulda sworn it read "or is tagged for deletion." Thanks again. Dloh cierekim  21:12, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

State Convention of Baptists in Indiana
Consensus has emerged on the notability of state conventions of the SBC. Would you please restore the conventions you deleted? Thank you so very much. Please see talk concerning Alabama Baptist State Board of Missions.

Thank you! Toverton28 (talk) 03:25, 25 August 2010 (UTC)toverton28

DYK for Putnam County Courthouse (Ohio)
The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Kudos to you, sir, on this excellent article! — Kralizec! (talk) 18:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Greenland tag
Category mishap? I tagged some Inuit topics as Greenland-related simply because they are all under Category:Greenland; I'll review them and see which need to be untagged. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Deletion at Commons
You might be interested in this: commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Files by Conk 9.--GrapedApe (talk) 02:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Karánsebes
Actually that is not a third source, go on a translation website. That is a Spanish translation of one of the two books.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 06:16, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

IU template
I added a transparent background to the template, this seems to have resolved the issue you raised on the help desk. Best, <i style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><b style="color:#809">u</b><b style="color:#708">n</b><b style="color:#608">☯</b><b style="color:#508">m</b><b style="color:#408">i</b></i> 16:35, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Undeleting image
Hi, I'm going to undelete File:116px-United-nations-peace-sculpture.jpg, because the deletion per WP:F8 was obviously an error: The files are not of the same resolution, and even are cropped differently. &mdash; Sebastian 16:57, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Very well, but you can now find it on FFD. Nyttend (talk) 18:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Philly NHLs
I'm trying to improve the List of National Historic Landmarks in Philadelphia, but have several questions.
 * 1) I've added in all the remaining coords in DMS format and switched the others to DMS- do folks not use this format in NHLs?
 * 2) Independence Hall and Gloria Dei are not on the NHL list (part of a National Historic Park or National Historic Site) but other similar "odd" sites are - what is supposed to be included in an NHL list?
 * 3) Addresses in "Philadelphia" with the county as "Philadelphia" are redundant in this list. Would anybody mind if I switch the locality to regions like "Center City" or "West Philadelphia" (linking them to NRHP lists?), and then put the neighborhoods in the "County" column?
 * 4) I've put the coords above the street address - this way when you sort on "locality" it sorts north to south, rather than by street number. With "Center City" or other regions in this column, it would first sort by region, then north to south.
 * 5) You're moving to Bloomington? Why not West Lafayette?  Smallbones (talk) 03:34, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, all the best. Smallbones (talk) 19:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Angola
I read this edit:

Nyttend, Louisiana State Penitentiary ("Angola, Louisiana") is not just a prison. It's also a self-contained community with residential housing (for employees), a dedicated fire department, and a post office. Angola and Mississippi State Penitentiary (Parchman, Mississippi) are two prison farms which essentially are self-contained communities. Therefore both are listed as "places" in their county/parish templates.

Also in regards to this edit, the penitentiary is a community (a self-contained one with employee housing and a dedicated fire department), and "Parchman, Mississippi" is now a redirect into the prison article. Parchman has no identity outside of the prison, and its fire station and post office are inside the prison grounds.

WhisperToMe (talk) 17:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Please watchlist Petaluma, California
Please watchlist Petaluma, California. I thinned a few from Notable Residents section and maybe delete more? I have a feeling that some of these people that I deleted might add themselves back, just a feeling. Thanks! Sbmeirow (talk) 23:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, good work! Sbmeirow (talk) 03:26, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Van Wert County Courthouse
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Very interesting article-my best wishes upon your school year-hope you are well-RFD (talk) 17:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Grand Lake St. Marys Lighthouse
The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Dudley, Iowa
Hi Nyttend. Long time since I bugged you, buddy. As the small town article guy, can you tell me if I did okay with Dudley, Iowa? There are 2 different ghost towns in Iowa by that name. (I guess if you name a town "Dudley" you are asking for it to be abandoned...) Thanks, Bill Whittaker (talk) 16:45, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Good luck with grad school! Some of my best and worst years... Hope you stay active with WP, you are a good contributor. Bill Whittaker (talk) 17:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Userboxes
Thanks for deleting those userboxes. I recreated them in the proper format so restoring the deleted ones in the correct format would be duplicating them.-- Avazina, an Unreconstructed Southerner 18:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * If you don't mind looking at the ones I recreated here and let me know if I'm completely wrong in the type of page name format I used. If I'm wrong, then please steer me in the right direction.-- Avazina, an Unreconstructed Southerner 18:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the direction... I looked at the deletion policy but couldn't figure out what tag should be placed on those pages. You've been a real big help.-- Avazina, an Unreconstructed Southerner 19:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

CCI for Conk 9
I have the first list of images from the CCI for Conk 9 ready for an administrator to delete them. Would you care to take a look: Contributor_copyright_investigations/Conk_9?--GrapedApe (talk) 22:49, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Legg House
Hi, sorry to be getting in the way maybe. I browsed some of your recent contributions and took issue with loss of disambiguating (City, State) for a place of name format "Lastname House". Generally i think almost such places should be disambiguated, and that usually there is no wp:PRIMARYUSAGE, and i set up Legg House dab. Then in Google search looking for non-NRHP ones to add to the dab, your commons pics pop up. I hope you don't mind my having created the dab page, where you were apparently about to create an article on the Indiana one. I do think the City, State disambiguation is better in its name, but i also don't want to interfere with productive effort. If you want to assert primaryusage and move the dab to "Legg House (disambiguation)" I won't object. Again, sorry, hope you are doing well in your new digs. --doncram (talk) 13:22, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

If your interested...
...I finally chose a name for the Lancaster Watch Company and finished the article. Seeing as how you commented on it, I figured you like to see the ulitmate result. Niagara Don't give up the ship 19:59, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Uhh...here. It's been quite awhile since thens (delays, distractions, whatnot). Niagara  Don't give up the ship 20:12, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Neat, I personally like using the university library's access to LexisNexis to help with doing research. Niagara  Don't give up the ship 20:23, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for offer! I am not sure I've needed or every used JSTOR. Usually when needing to lookup info in an old journal, I usually go old-school, but now I think I'm going to have to look there occasionally ;-)


 * Speaking of journals, am I nuts in thinking that there is/was a reference book that one could lookup a subject and see what articles in various journals and other periodicals pertained to it? I asked a librarian at a local library about that once and was shown a computer with EBSCOhost. Niagara  Don't give up the ship 22:34, 4 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks anyway. The sad part is that I remember being shown how to use one in high school (only 4–5 years ago). If you happen to run across it, please do let me know. Now off to bother Doncram with a disambig-related question.  Niagara  Don't give up the ship 23:25, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Mike Kirmse
This player did not play at the top level of US pro soccer. The Rhinos, his primary team, are at the second level. Mike Kirmse posted an autobiography, and I've since explained to him the notability policy and problems with posting autobiographical articles. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 22:54, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Smith Arch pix outside Parkside Historic District
Good to hear from you again. Yep, it looks like I really didn't complete the West Philadelphia list - d____, gotta check everything! Give me a week or two before you post a reprimand at "Fully Illustrated Lists!" after all, it's only about 50 yards out of the district (see Jack Boucher aerial photo). Only about 111 more pix to complete Philadelphia (but who's counting?), including 1 Lightship in Camden, NJ. If you find any similar quirks or curiosities, or even just bad photos, in Philly let me know. I'd rather catch them before than after announcing a Philly fully illustrated list. I'm a bit caught up in other things now - not as much as you I'm sure - but Fall is probably the best time to take photos - hey, maybe some covered bridges in Perry County, PA! Smallbones (talk) 00:38, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Got 4 pix in Parkside Historic District. Smallbones (talk) 01:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

File:ChatinoDjeca.jpg
File was uploaded in 2006 with PD template, but as it had no designation of source, in 2008 it got deleted in review of old images. It is black & white photo and it is possible that it is really PD, but my colleague admin made sound decision under accepted rules for images. On the other hand, I will ask uploader for more details. SpeedyGonsales (talk) 08:18, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

File:SIUlogo2.png
Thank you for correcting me. I wasn't sure about the tag.--  Forty two  11:45, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Please reconsider declining this speedy
Hi, Nyttend. Thanks for your admin work with things like speedy-delete requests. I know you have to go through them quickly, of course, in order to keep up with the deluge, but I'd like to ask you to reconsider one you declined after a 3-second review, with the edit summary, "This is hardly spam." No criticism at all is intended re the three seconds; as I said, I know you have to move quickly. But if you'll look a little longer I think you'll have to conclude that it is spam, bandspam, to be specific. Further, it's a menace to Wikipedia to allow it to live, even in userspace, imo. The user has tried at least 7 times, ignoring admin warnings all the way along, to move the article into mainspace. He even created a redirect in mainspace to point to this userspace page at one point, and also created it in mainspace as the alternate spelling "Yung Jonii", presumably because his preferred spelling is salted. The article is about an 18 year old rapper with no commercial or press notice at all - the "external links" in the would-be article are all to pages the user just created himself on free music sites, a few days ago. I strongly suspect the user behind this, RuskiiSun, SunHawken, and now BlackImperial is himself "Young Jonii".

Here's some documentation to back all these claims up: Name-jumper re-creating band spam at ANI, user SunHawken's talk page, and some relevant logs:. One admin offered to let him keep the article in userspace a while ago, for three months, but that was before he abused the privilege by repeatedly trying to get it into mainspace again by ignoring admin warnings and by deceptive attempts like the redirect and the rename of the article. I wasn't exagerating when I said this "article" is a menace. The user has already consumed hours and hours of other user's time on this, despite dozens of polite explanations as to "Young Jonii's" utter lack of notability. The user simply refuses to take "no" for an answer. If the thing stays around in any form, he'll just keep creating bogus external links to free music sites and using whatever other sly techniques he can think of to pump it up erroneously. The young man needs to work on his hoped-for career in the music business to gain legitimate notability, not to try and jigger the would-be article around to keep trying to fake it. This one really needs a stake through its heart, I'm afraid.

Oh, btw, you can reply right here if you like; I've put your talk on my watchlist. Best regards, –  OhioStandard  (talk) 12:44, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the detailed explanation. I still don't believe that it falls under the purview of the speedy criterion, because its actual wording is not promotional.  However, I see the links and explanations you provide as sufficient reason for an IAR deletion — plenty of people have agreed with you that this content is unacceptable (and now that I understand the situation better, I agree as well), so I'll take this as consensus to delete that simply was made at a place other than XFD.  Nyttend (talk) 12:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)


 * You're welcome for the explanation. I always feel reluctant to ask anyone to reconsider a decision: few people like being told someone thinks they might have been wrong, I find. But I'm always very impressed when I come across someone who doesn't respond defensively. It's refreshing: maturity is a beautiful thing. Thank you very much for this, and for your overall work here, too. I'm grateful for both. Best, –  OhioStandard  (talk) 15:40, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

WP:Transport - Portal:Transport - Category:Transport
Maybe to bring it to a positive end: Could you help in creating a list of all categories containing the word "transport" or "transportation"? So that interested parties can see what categories are concerned? TruckCard (talk) 14:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The categories concerned are the ones you've moved and that are thus at CFD. Nyttend (talk) 14:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * At CFD are only two I moved. TruckCard (talk) 14:33, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Tomorrow, Nebraska
Thanks for the DYK nomination for Tamora, Nebraska. Your phrasing looked pretty good; certainly, as good as anything I could've come up with. Unfortunately, that problem existed in the sources as well. I suspect that there's a version of the naming story in which the founders agreed "to name it tomorrow", or something to that effect; and, in keeping with their agreement, they named it Tomorrow. However, I can't find a source that phrases it that neatly, and it would be a mortal sin to introduce a phrase of my own invention in quote-marks into the article.

Incidentally, how'd you find the article so quickly? Do you have your watchlist arranged so that new articles in "Category:Unincorporated communities in Nebraska" automatically go onto it when they're created or added to the category? Or did your watchlist show you the change in Seward County, Nebraska or the Seward County template, and you then followed the link by hand?

--Ammodramus (talk) 14:56, 6 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I appreciate the nomination, and I'll take it as a compliment, although it's not because of anything clever that I did myself...


 * I've been editing for not quite a year, and during that time most of my effort has been focused on photography; so I don't have any GA's or FA's; in fact, I've only got 8 A's, though I've made what I regard as major contributions to about as many more existing articles. When the winter sets in and conditions become less favorable for birding and photography, I hope to do more article-writing and -editing.  I've got a couple of articles in the pipeline, but they're moving slowly&mdash;especially since the Kearney and UNK libraries are closed for the Labor Day weekend.


 * Speaking of articles in the pipeline, one of them deals with an NRHP site in Dawes County, Nebraska, and I'm perplexed regarding the name. The site in question is the former library at Chadron State College.  In the NRIS, it's listed as "Library".  In National Register of Historic Places listings in Dawes County, Nebraska, it's Library (Chadron, Nebraska); but that's not a whole lot better, since the Chadron Public Library is also on the NRHP, and may have its own article one day.  I'm planning to name the article Mari Sandoz High Plains Heritage Center, for the building's present use; but according to WP:NRHPMOS, there should be a redirect page with the official name.  The problem is that if and when Chadron Public Library is written, Library (Chadron, Nebraska) should probably be a dab page pointing to both articles.  Any thoughts?  Advice would be welcome; I was planning to post this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places, but will use this occasion as a pretext to pester you about it first.


 * --Ammodramus (talk) 15:32, 6 September 2010 (UTC)


 * No hurry at all&mdash;I won't get certain essential sources (hopefully, the nom form among them) until ta-MOR-a at the earliest. Good luck with the photo expedition.  I had a great one down by Webster County, Nebraska Saturday, which has left me with a huge bolus of new photos in my edit-and-upload queue.


 * --Ammodramus (talk) 15:51, 6 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks a million&mdash;I tried searching focus.nps for the nom form, but didn't think of looking at the college as a group. Clearly I need to learn a lot more about searching the site.  I've been relying on the Nebraska State Historical Society website, which is great but which doesn't have all the nom forms uploaded yet.  I e-mailed someone at NSHS who's sent me nom forms in the past, but she's out of the office until Tuesday.


 * I'm going to stick with the Sandoz Center name, since that's the building's present function, and since Sandoz is a major figure in Nebraska letters. For the latter reason, I'm going to make it a separate article and not incorporate it into a single article on all of the college's NRHP buildings.  I'm not sure what I'll do with the official NRHP name in the lead.  WP:NRHPMOS wants me to put the official name in as one of the bolded alternative names; but "The Mari Sandoz High Plains Heritage Center, also known as Library, is a..." sounds kind of silly.


 * OK, time to stop procrastinating and get to work on the Sandoz Center article...


 * --Ammodramus (talk) 18:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: User:DjJosh's uploaded files
Is there any way to delete those uploaded files in a legal way? Obviously, the guy uploaded the logos (Salt&Light Radio) just to promote his self-created internet radio station. He even tagged and claiming that he is the copyright owner. even looks like its for personal use only. If these files will not be deleted, this may trigger him to recreate that Salt&Light radio article or any of those self-promoting articles. -WayKurat (talk) 15:58, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Tom Clements (politician)
Can you please de-salt Tom Clements (politician)? He is a notable environmentalist and political candidate and a viable article can easily be written about him, which I guess I will have to do.--TM 17:38, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I realized that after I left the message. Can you explain why you deleted it in the first place?--TM 18:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * A perfectly understandable deletion on your part. What happened was the User:Seraphimblade decided that the article was simply a campaign brochure and speedily deleted it. He is stubbornly refusing to restore it and submit it to AfD so that we can have an actual discussion and I've posted 4 independent sources all of which discuss the Clements campaign. He has in turn called them simply local sources or partisan (Common Dreams NewsCenter) and refuses to restore the article.--TM 22:49, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately it is salted, so I can't even do that. Seraphimblade really needs to be less willing to delete articles with no discussion, I would definitely consider this a misuse of his admin tools.--TM 22:56, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Working on it. What a bureucratic mess!--TM 23:02, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No I understand your position. RHayworth has rejected my request for undeletion. I've userfied the old version with a bit of my own addition from the sources, which is located on my user page if you would like to have a look. Check it out at DRV as well.--TM 23:22, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Your comment is requested at DRV regarding the article in question. --TM 23:51, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

TheIBM regarding 'Lump Ball'
Greetings I am rather disappointed to see the article on Lump Ball has been deleted without any request for comment from myself! The article is NOT a hoax as you seem to have presumed. For your information this game has been developed based on information from the training schedule for delegates who are studying the IMPACT (International Mobilisation and Preparation for ACTion) course for the Red Cross and the content is an accurate explanation of facts as detailed in the internationally distributed training schedules and course documentation. In order for the Federation of the Red Cross and ICRC to obtain training uniformity the course has been formulated to cross cultural, race, religion and international boundaries and offers students a series of scenarios based in the fictitious country 'Alphaland'. Despite the game 'Lump Ball' being discussed in numerous course scenarios no rules were ever developed until the recent course in New Zealand (where I with the help of another participant expanded rules and outline of the game). Following the successful roll out and demonstration of the game to a senior delegation of New Zealand and Australian IFRC and ICRC staff it was suggested by them that I present it to the federation in Geneva next year! It is also intended that the rules will form the basis of an additional module to the course which will assist in team development and co-operation. Whilst I understand the pages may require some modifications (I am a new contributer after all) the content is accurate and important and worthwhile for inclusion. If you would therefore let me know what further validations you require to prove my bona-fide's and to get this included. Regards Theibm (talk) 21:16, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Deletion opinion
When you get a chance, could you check out this article for deletion? It needs some more eyes and I'd definitely like to see some additional opinions. --JonRidinger (talk) 05:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Francis Farm Petroglyphs DYK
Hello! Your submission of Francis Farm Petroglyphs at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --Pgallert (talk) 08:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Petroglyphs
Hi Nyttend- Sounds like an intersting fellow. Never met him. No specific term for people who document Petroglyphs; the study of symbols and glyphs is often lumped under "cognitive archaeology" or "symbolic archaeology". Bill Whittaker (talk) 13:15, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Category:Recipients of the Silver Buffalo Award
In the absence of any clear consensus at CfD (or whatever it's called nowadays), to whit, one keep and one delete within a few months of each other, maybe a new CfD instead of Speedy would have been appropriate? DuncanHill (talk) 21:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Category:Recipients of the Silver Buffalo Award
In the absence of any clear consensus at CfD (or whatever it's called nowadays), to whit, one keep and one delete within a few months of each other, maybe a new CfD instead of Speedy would have been appropriate? DuncanHill (talk) 21:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Category:Recipients of the Silver Buffalo Award
In the absence of any clear consensus at CfD (or whatever it's called nowadays), to whit, one keep and one delete within a few months of each other, maybe a new CfD instead of Speedy would have been appropriate? DuncanHill (talk) 21:19, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry about multiple post, Wikipedia connexion is even lousier than usual. DuncanHill (talk) 21:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I'll try to populate it when I can. If it is re-proposed for deletion, the debate is likely to be better and more conclusive it it is fully populated (that's my experience of such debates in the past, anyway). DuncanHill (talk) 21:54, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I just started to repopulate it, to find that Fastily had re-speedied it. DuncanHill (talk) 08:13, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Am discussing it with Fastily on his talk page. You may want to take a look. DuncanHill (talk) 07:07, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Porta Asinaria
Why was the image for this deleted? The reason cites broken file. But I can see the image perfectly. Where's the problem? Will you restore it please? Laurel Lodged (talk) 22:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Use of Rollback
I understand that not every person is going to be able to fully comprehend WP:Place. I get it. Yet when you revert something that you may personally not agree with, it is not usually wise to use Rollback on an edit other than vandalism. It looks like you used WP:Rollback on my edit, thereby making it seem as if I was vandalizing the page, am I mistaken?

Also, your Edit summary at Jack Ruby, suggests that you did not review WP:Place before making two reverts on two articles, based on that policy. You should really review policy before passing judgment on it. There are many policies and guidelines at wikipedia, and no one editor, regardless of who they are, can remember every detail.

Also there have been previous discussions on this topic, that are available to review in my FAQ on my talk page.

Like I say in my FAQ, I'm not going to edit war with you. If you are so inclined that you feel that the articles are better this way, dispite policy and previous discussions, go right ahead. I won't stop you, I only fix the articles as I go.

My greatest concern was your use of Rollback on an edit that was clearly not vandlism, unless you some hoe feel that it might be. Then please explain, otherwise I am sure that the Rollback was purely accidental and that you really only wanted to just revert.--Jojhutton (talk) 01:48, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * As I was saying, my greatest concern was your use of Rollback on an edit that was clearly not vandalism, yet you previously stated that you thought that it was vandalism. Can you state a policy or guideline that would lead you to believe that the edit that you reverted using rollback was vandlism? Otherwise your unauthorized use of rollback should be reported and discussed by others, as well as the few other times that I found that you used rollback on edits that were not clearly vandalism. Remember that use of Rollback is for rolling back vandalism only, and just because you personally do not agree with the edit, does not make it vandalism.--Jojhutton (talk) 00:42, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Silver Buffalo category
The category is for people who have been given the Silver Buffalo Award. Whether they are called "awardees" or "recipients" the categories are the same and encompass the same articles. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 04:37, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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User talk:Goudaforbuddha
FYI, the edit summary you used is the reason I tag them as such; it draws the attention of an admin to an inappropriate page. Because I edit as an IP, edit filters usually prevent me from blanking the page myself. Also, as an IP, my doing so is often misinterpreted as vandalism or simply discounted as unproductive. It's much better done by somebody with the mop. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 02:36, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Category:Recipients of the Silver Buffalo Award
Hello. I suppose I should have asked you about this earlier. I figure you wouldn't have first deleted and then undeleted the page unless there was a very good reason for it. I'm interested in hearing what you have to say. Because I'd like to have a professional and cordial discussion, I am willing put all my differences, grudges, and gripes I have against you aside, permanently, if you'd be willing to do the same. I hope you will agree. Regards,  F ASTILYsock (T ALK ) 08:00, 9 September 2010 (UTC)


 * FYI, the page was not eligible under G4, WP:CSD is very clear, saying in the third paragraph "Administrators should take care not to speedy delete pages or media except in the most obvious cases. If a page has survived a prior deletion discussion, it should not be speedy deleted except for newly discovered copyright violations." Nyttend, your decision to restore was correct in policy, Fastily's deletion was contr-policy, as was the tagging by an editor who had previously been warned about just this sort of thing. DuncanHill (talk) 08:38, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Mark Weber (historian)
If this article was not a repost of the version of the article deleted by that AfD, then it needs the history restored for attribution from whichever other deleted version it started as a repost of. Any chance you could help with that? VernoWhitney (talk) 11:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

User:Loganpatton5/Enter your new article name here
Check out the talk page. The copyvio is shown there in detail. Ol Yeller Talktome 16:38, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

National Register lists in Oregon
Hi. I've noticed you making a large series of changes today to the list articles of National Register of Historic Places listings in Oregon. I have a concern because I find that I disagree with nearly every one of your individual changes (with a very few exceptions). I already undid your omnibus edit to National Register of Historic Places listings in Washington County, Oregon whole-cloth, before thinking that there was a better way to engage over how these articles should develop. In that spirit, I'd like to invite you to a dialog about what you think needs to change in these articles.

Disclosure: I have a long history with these articles, most of which I authored from scratch. I respect and am very cognizant of WP:OWN, and have no desire to be an unyielding blockage or serious impediment to your work (especially since I'm on a 90+% wikibreak right now). At the same time, I care quite a bit about these articles, so I want to be sure that developments are carefully considered.

What I'd like to do is go through each detail-level change you've made so far and state my reasons why I'm uncomfortable with it. My objections to each detail-level change are of various natures and intensities, so we may come to different consensuses in different cases (trans.: I'll back down more quickly in some cases than others). I'd then like to hear your response to each item, with your counter-reasoning or whatever. If after a bit of discussion you remain unconvinced by what I have to say and want to stick with your change, then I'll just go back to my wikibreak and defer to you. Meanwhile, I'd appreciate it if you could suspend further edits to these articles until we finish our back-and-forth, so that your ongoing edits can be informed by our discussion.

Does this work for you? Thanks. &mdash;Ipoellet (talk) 17:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Re: your response at my talk page. Yes, I understand that you have concerns about these articles - that's why you're editing them. No, I didn't explain my concerns in detail above - that's why I proposed the discussion format that I did. I will go ahead with my detailed list of objections at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Washington County, Oregon (which will take a few minutes), so that you can better understand where I'm coming from. &mdash;Ipoellet (talk) 17:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Please see my detailed concerns at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Washington County, Oregon. I'm interested to read your response there. &mdash;Ipoellet (talk) 18:34, 9 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Once again, I'd like you to temporarily hold off on further changes until we can have a good-faith discussion regarding my concerns. &mdash;Ipoellet (talk) 18:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I've added my detailed concerns to Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Wasco County, Oregon. I'll wait to see how you respond to my invitation to discuss on these two lists before proceeding further. Thanks. &mdash;Ipoellet (talk) 19:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I've now added detailed concerns to Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Hood River County, Oregon. Thanks. &mdash;Ipoellet (talk) 21:21, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion
Hi. You deleted my article about Novella Carpenter yesterday saying that the article didn't indicate her significance. The article stated that she wrote a book and had a reference to its review in the New York Times. Yes the article was short but I would think that getting your book reviewed in the NYT is a pretty clear indication of significance. Uwhoff (talk) 06:59, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Michael McDonald (fighter)
Can you please move the article you deleted to this page for further development.>>User talk:Ppt1973/sandbox<<. Thanks.(Ppt1973 (talk) 13:33, 10 September 2010 (UTC))

DYK for Harris Dental Museum
Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Update
I uploaded File:Canfield Island Stone Tools.jpg on Commons - do you think it should be in the article? If it is OK with you, I think I will translate Penns Cave and expand it using the NRHP form first, then work on the library. I think I can get the library to GA at least - is the NRHP form for it available on line? Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:52, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Logo question
What is your opinion of the logo for the Davey Tree Expert Company? It has a little tree on it that has the "registered trademark" symbol, as seen here, but obviously "DAVEY" can't be copyrighted and it seems the trademark is on the name as opposed to the logo. Should I have uploaded on the Commons or did I completely license it wrong here? --JonRidinger (talk) 02:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * OK thanks. I'll change it and include the Fair Use tag. --JonRidinger (talk) 04:59, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

You have new messages

 * Waiting for you at the Help Desk. Warm regards.  ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex"> ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  20:17, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Fair use rationale
I noticed your enquiry about the Warsaw Child. I've been trying unsuccessfully to find an acceptable fair use rationale. This is my. I found that it gives a fresh perspective of being there. What was the child feeling, what is the girl thinking and so on. Slightsmile (talk) 23:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Miscellany for deletion/Secret pages 2
Because you participated in Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Some Person/The Real Secret Page and Secret Barnstar, you may be interested in Miscellany for deletion/Secret pages 2. Cunard (talk) 06:28, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Person's article is only a redirect
This persons article is nothing more than a redirect of employment. Whether the person is notable is one thing, but an empty articles is another. I tried to request a delete a while back but it was refused. Thought you might know best of what to do. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alex_Navarro&redirect=no Thanks in advance! Sbmeirow (talk) 08:29, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Francis Farm Petroglyphs
The DYK project (nominate) 12:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for South Salem Academy
The DYK project (nominate) 18:05, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Francis Farm Petroglyphs
Thanks for the message. I hadn't really thought about what needs to be improved to get it to a B - I settled on Start because it should have some classification, but it clearly isn't a stub. So it is more of a default class for now. You should probably ask the folks at WP:ARCHAEO to take a look it. – ukexpat (talk) 18:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Crop of File:Home Laundry Company.jpg
The image is done, Sadads (talk) 01:55, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Tamora, Nebraska
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Solar power in Greece
Hi. With regard to this, the its article page was recently moved from Solar power in Greece to List of power stations in Greece, while its original talkpage was accidentally left behind (see its history). So I just thought it would be more appropriate to move it too, because leaving as it is, would place the article creation date to September 2010, but its talkpage at February 2010, while also missing a small comment by an editor. Rehman(+) 13:45, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

HEEACT – Performance Ranking of Scientific Papers for World Universities
It's still a copyvio. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 21:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

File:Command Decision (front cover).jpg
You deleted the above file File:Command Decision (front cover).jpg per CSD F6. I would like to expand the FUR, presumably by adding a template so that it matches File:Trading_In_Danger_(front_cover).jpg and the other books in the series (covered at Vatta's War). If you would undelete it for that purpose that would be great. Thanks for your work in clearing out image CSD's and for improving Wikipedia in general. Eluchil404 (talk) 23:18, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Godwin/Goodwin-Knowles House aka Masonic Temple
Please stop by at Talk:List of Masonic buildings to explain what you know about the name of this building (I see that you renamed the article to Godwin-Knowles House). --Orlady (talk) 16:58, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Township opinion
Hello Nyttend- I wanted to know your opinion on this whenever you have a chance to read it over and reply. It's hardly a pressing matter, so no need to rush! In developing the Franklin Township, Portage County, Ohio article, I also put together a "Notable natives and residents" section using the one from Kent, Ohio. It can currently be found in my sandbox at User:JonRidinger/sandbox. The question is what to do with listing notable township residents since there is a lot of overlap and changes in boundaries. Ones like John Brown and Lucius Fairchild lived in what is now Kent, but long before Kent was incorporated, so they definitely lived in the township by all definitions. I guess the question is, should we count notable natives/residents in a particular township until the city or village's incorporation or until they are formally separated (incorporated vs. unincorporated parts)? Do we only count notable residents and natives who live within the current boundaries of the township? In Franklin Township's case, Kent incorporated in 1867 and Brady Lake in 1927 and both formally separated ("seceded") from the township in 1993. All three were counted as part of the township's "incorporated portions" population through the 1990 census. Thanks as always for your input and time! --JonRidinger (talk) 17:25, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

David Reeves (Professional balloon jumper)
You declined a speedy deletion of this article as A7. However, you might like to reconsider under G3 as an obvious hoax. In the meantime, it's been nominated for deletion.- gadfium 02:49, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Your opinion
Hi there. I was wondering if you would be able to take a look at Foreaker Covered Bridge. That doesn't seem to be the right name, but I'm not exactly sure how to fix it. It seems to have a lot of OR as well, but that's something I'm a bit better at figuring out. Thank you, §hep  Talk  04:20, 18 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Figures. Thanks for the information. No big concerns. Thanks, §hep  Talk  17:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for James L. Swauger
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:03, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

My comments on Talk:Belmont County, Ohio
I noticed that you reverted my correction of earlier comments I made at Talk:Belmont County, Ohio. In your edit summary you said "don't edit others comments", which was not the case here since I was editing my own comments for clarity, although I do recognize that editing any other user's comments without their knowledge and consnt is frowned upon on Wikipedia. --TommyBoy (talk) 02:35, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism deletion
Hi Nyttend, I have something I would like you to do if you can. When I just started to edit, I must admit that I was doing some "nonsense" to say so and if you could delete my revisions in the history of file (just to say that there's over 15 my revisions that should be deleted). I would be very grateful to you and apologize for the way of everything. Thank you in advance. - Corey.7.11.1992 (talk) 12:46, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Site of the Charles Woodruff House.jpg
Do you have some confirmation that the house has been demolished? I also concluded that the house had been demolished, but later noticed that there is an older house behind the church. It can be seen using the coordinates to get to a Bing "birds eye" view. Regards Greg Hume (talk) 16:00, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Pohocco Township, Saunders County, Nebraska
Embarrassment is mine. Thanks for catching the error&mdash;it's one of my favorite typos. Which is not an excuse, but a reason why I should be more careful about it...

For what it's worth, the addition to Pohocco Township, Saunders County, Nebraska came about because I'm working on Pahuk, which is on the NRHP; I hope that within a day or so, it will cease to be a red link. On the other hand, it's going to be a beast to photograph. I have a very good idea where it's located, but judging by the Google satellite image, I'm not going to get a good picture without a boat.

--Ammodramus (talk) 20:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The Dravo site looks a lot like the situation at Pahuk. There's a road that runs across the site from the south and dead-ends near the edge of the bluff, so I suspect that I can actually walk out onto it.  However, that'd just leave me standing on what the nom form describes as a peneplain.  The opposite bank of the river is mostly private land; moreover, there's a good-sized wooded island in the river.  I think my best bet is to hope for a very dry summer, during which I can walk out into the Platte.  First, though, I need a very water-tight container for my camera...


 * --Ammodramus (talk) 21:21, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The bluff-top picture is going to be a last resort, since it's probably going to show nothing but fields with some trees beyond. I think that it might be possible to get permission to go into the woods, and it's possible that I can get some kind of decent shot from there; or, if nothing else, maybe a clear shot of the river from above.  The woods are of biological interest, so I'd like a shot of them anyhow.  However, I'd rather have something a little  more impressive for the infobox photo.


 * You're determined to get me out on the ice, aren't you? (See User_talk:Ammodramus).  I didn't pick the username "Ammodramus" just because "Eliza" was already taken.


 * --Ammodramus (talk) 21:39, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I was torn between Eliza and Hans Brinker...


 * I think the bluff is at 41.4346°N, -96.59717°W. On the NSHS website, it's illustrated with this aerial photo.  Note the road that runs northward to the edge of the bluff and then turns east, the shape of the wooded area inland and to the west of the road, and the gully east of the road.  A newspaper story that I didn't cite in the Pahuk article described the site's owners' problem with wildcat dumping, facilitated by a road running up to the bluff edge; I think that's what Google Maps calls County Road 16.


 * From birding the area, I know that there's gated private land immediately southeast of Fremont Lakes SRA. I think that my best bet for a picture is to try to work through the park down to the riverbank, and see how far upstream I can get before hitting no-trespassing fences.  Of course, if I get too far upstream, then the wooded island immediately north of the site will cause problems.


 * --Ammodramus (talk) 18:53, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
For noticing my clumsiness at the AFD for Christian bookstore, Gaza, I had clumsily copied it from my comments at the AFD on Gaza Baptist Church.AMuseo (talk) 11:57, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Is it permitted ot change the article title while the AFD is going forward?AMuseo (talk) 12:16, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Allen County Jail
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:02, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Nice and quick
Thanks for deleting Yaoqiang BPMN Editor - I'm in the process of guiding the user; I'm just v impressed how quickly you deleted that - I was about to tag it as CSD routine maintenance. Cheers!  Chzz  ► 15:28, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello
Hello!

I've replied to your message on my talk page :) --5 albert square (talk) 22:40, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * And again :) --5 albert square (talk) 22:49, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

WP:REFUND request
You deleted Magic kids as an A7 and the author of the article has posted some sources on requests for undeletion indicating that the band meets A7. It looks like it should be undeleted but I want to leave a summary decision like that up to you. Please leave a note on the REFUND request if you decide not to restore the article. Thanks! Protonk (talk) 23:57, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

vicinity edits
In this edit u reverse my reverting of your removal of "Vicinity" qualifier for a community in Oklahoma, i think something like Perkinsville, Oklahoma. I really don't know why you would want to remove that location information. Since a NRHP nominator or staff person or someone chose to write "vicinity of" the community, the implication is that the place is not in the community. It is sourced info that the place is in the vicinity; it is unsourced and probably inaccurate to state that the place is in the community instead. It just seems slamdunk wrong to change the info, unless you have actual real knowledge of town lines of Perkinsville and have done a proper analysis and so on. Somehow you think differently apparently?

This is one of a number of NRHP list-article formatting/accuracy issues open. I believe that this was one of several issues just discussed for several Oregon list-articles. Would you open or participate in, if i opened, a discussion on this formatting point for NRHP list articles, at wt:NRHP or somewhere else if you prefer? To get more other editors' views. --doncram (talk) 04:43, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Note regarding NRHP possible split
I posted a note at Sanfranman's page. IIRC, you are knowledgeable in this area, so I'm letting you know.-- SPhilbrick  T  14:32, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Sugar Grove Petroglyphs
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:04, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

I figured out my error in assumption
I figured out my blunder (not that you care, but I do). I had a Commons page open because I was doing some uploads. When I looked at any of my contributions, I saw the Commons logo in the upper left. Then I looked at a few images in National Register of Historic Places listings in Hartford County, Connecticut, the first one of which is an en.wikipedia, and I see the Wikipedia logo in the upper left. I mistakenly convinced myself that I could tell whether it was in en.wikipedia or in Commons, but looking at the logo. When I clicked on the next and the next images, instead of looking at the description under the image, I just glanced at the logo, which is the Wikipedia logo. I now see that most are on Commons. That's where I've uploaded most of mine (except for one error.)-- SPhilbrick  T  18:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Legg House (Bloomington, Indiana)
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:03, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Poznan, Ohio
Hi I hope you are doing well. I accidentally came across an article about Poznan, Ohio. I did some research and the community is in the Cleveland, Ohio area. A part of the city? You are more familiar with the area and Ohio then I am. You may want to take a look at the article. Thank you-RFD (talk) 13:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for your comment. We have the same problem at WikiProject Wisconsin. One editor started 2 articles about unincorporated communities in Outagamie County that turn out to be in the city of Appleton which is incorporated and are neighborhoods. Also in Kenosha County, the newly created village of Bristol annexed the remaining town of Bristol and some unincorporated communities of the town became neighborhoods of the new village. I agree what can we do. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 15:00, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism
Hi,

You speedy deleted this, I am putting back with a holdon  tag.

The entity described is a reference source for the following articles and is therefore notable:
 * Global Terrorism Database
 * MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base
 * Counter-terrorism
 * Homeland Security Centers of Excellence
 * National Liberation Front of Tripura
 * Zomi revolutionary army
 * CLODO
 * May 19th Communist Organization
 * People's Liberation Army of Manipur
 * Communist terrorism
 * Kosovo Liberation Army
 * History of terrorism
 * Terrorism in the United States
 * Orange Volunteers
 * Domestic terrorism in the United States
 * Jewish Defense League
 * Gary LaFree

Thanks, Erxnmedia (talk) 14:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC) How can you delete a page if you have no idea if it is real or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gimo202 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Inspower
Hi Nyttend,

I am not sure exactly why this page was deleted? Please can you advise what changes I can make for it to stay on there. You mentioned that there was no relevance to the subject, the actual word relates to the organisation and the movement that has been started so I'm not sure exactly why it has been deleted when I have provided relevant sources that can be contacted and all the information about what it relates to and it provides a very objective tone to what is happening with Inspower?

When I received a post for speedy deletion, I ensure that I took action and stayed up quite a few hours making certain changes.

I had made sure that I edited this to the standard which was required by linking to different articles and other wikipedia pages and also referencing project partners that are part of the organisation as well as those who are supporting this movement currently.

Please advise.

Jack Barlow83 (talk) 16:01, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Nyttend

I understand now why it may have been deleted. Is it possible you can put this into my userspace and undelete it. I will research a few of the online magazine and newspaper sources that I do have and then I will publish when ready.

Apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Kind regards, Jack Barlow83

Deletion of No Limit Kids: Much Ado About Middle School
I recently created a new article for the film No Limit Kids: Much Ado About Middle School. As you are aware, it was based on an earlier page that was deleted through discussion and therefore you deleted it. On the talk page of the new article, I stated the article had been improved and enhanced per instructions. Here's how... 1) To start with, it has the full and complete title of the film which was an error of the original article which sometimes didn't allow the film to be searched properly for news, web pages, etc.  2) New references were added to newspaper articles surrounding the film. 3) Since the original article in July, the film has won several leading festival awards in the Christian Films community including the Phoenix International Christian Film Festival award for "Best Film for Young Viewers" and the "Redemptive Storytellers Awards" in Virginia. 4) It has also been accepted in at least four other festivals since the original article, including the prestigious International Black Film Festival of Nashville scheduled to screen next week. 5) Since the July article, it has also been featured in several national magazine articles including the Methodist's youth version of Upper Room - Devozine (circulation 3 million worldwide), Family Times Magazine (30,000), LA Parent (cir 95,000), and others. While I respect the decision of the Wiki community, I ask that you reconsider your immediate deletion of the new article, and if necessary ask what the process would be to have it reinstated and reviewed again by it's peers based on the current merits of the film.   Thanks for your consideration.  JmacBrown (talk) 19:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Godwin-Knowles House
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Yolo County Courthouse
Hello there. You recently removed the Yolo County Courthouse from the list of NRHPs in that county, but I've undone your edit. The NRHP database is incorrect, and it is documented on this page. I didn't expect you to check the NRIS errors page, but I just wanted to make you aware that it is documented as being false. Good eye, though, for noticing that it wasn't listed. :-) Killiondude (talk) 07:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

About the article Apprain
Hi, Can you please tell us why the page Apprain is deleted. It was regarding a Content Management Framework. This is a new concept that helps web community.

This web tool is publish for same purpose like CakePHP or Typo3 does with some new concepts.

appRain Team

Re: Ohio State Route 274
Hey. I've got OH 274 on my list to start expanding today. It will have at minimum an intro and a RD placeholder soon, and will add JCTs and History soon after. If you might have noticed, I've been on a quest to improve the overall quality of the Ohio Highways WikiProject, working gradually to improve the overall quality level. There are still well more than 350 stubs, and several more routes that don't have a page because of the mass removal in late 2007. There are a few editors out there who have been protective of stubs on the project, and haven't moved yet to start adding sections that are in line with the current WP:USRD standards (RD, History in prose/using O.D.O.T. sources, JCTs) to at least upgrade them to starts. I was wondering if you might be interested in helping out the effort, as I know you've been active in starting up a number of route pages in the last few years, as well as adding content like photos. Thanks. DanTheMan474 (talk) 14:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. Keep it in mind for future reference, though, when you may have some free time...if even just adding a History section (O.D.O.T. archived maps are an acceptable source), or using the SLDs for determining JCTs, here and there.  No worries about photos, since there are other ways articles can be improved, and we can utilize what photos you've already got up for those particular articles.  Let me know if you have any questions.  Thanks! DanTheMan474 (talk) 14:45, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm in the middle of writing a new, expanded intro for OH 274. Dozens of route pages, like 189, 190, 245 and many others were removed, exactly for that reason...they only had an infobox.  Some of these have been restored, others remain to be re-introduced and expanded. DanTheMan474 (talk) 14:47, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

please join the discussion
At Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Marin County, California.--Stepheng3 (talk) 17:49, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The intent of my invitation was to promote discussion of list content and formatting, not to defend your honor. I guess I should've been more clear.  Sorry,--Stepheng3 (talk) 18:14, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi NYT ... Your contribution to the discussion there is important. Please reconsider. --sanfranman59 (talk) 22:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Cridersville, Ohio
I recently got a message that a "joke edit" had been submitted on the Cridersville, Ohio page in reference to the town changing its name for a day to "Snidersville". That did, in fact, happen. Here is just one of the numerous articles about the event:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=144672

The edit was not a joke, and the event was a fundraiser for March of Dimes.

65.17.157.242 (talk) 18:39, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

File:E-tripartite-pact.jpg
Can I ask why this was not deleted? The deletion remained unchallenged, and the free replacements issue was only part of the reason it was nominated. If this isn't deleted now, it's gonna have to sit around for at least another week. Why not just put it out of its misery? J Milburn (talk) 20:47, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The main reasoning for deletion was "Useless copy-paste rationales; it is not clear why this image is needed in any of the usages." otherwise I would have just gone ahead and orphaned it like you say. I'm really not seeing what will be achieved by leaving this image to languish for another 7 days (or whatever the waiting period is at the moment). J Milburn (talk) 21:21, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Like I say, that was not my main reasoning for deletion. Regardless of the existence of free images, that image should not be in the vast majority of usages, as it fails NFCC#8. If people want a decorative image just to show the pact, there's some stuff in Tripartite Pact, but what that particular meeting happened to look like is not important. J Milburn (talk) 22:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and replaced or removed it in each usage- it really wasn't justified in any of them, so far as I could see, as I said. I am now going to tag it as orphaned. J Milburn (talk) 22:26, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Look, I'm sorry I gave you whatever impression I gave you. This image was nominated for deletion purely on NFCC#8 grounds, the note about "free images" was basically "if you want an image to fill the space where this was, there are a few free ones". I was not saying "there was an image of exactly this at just this time from this angle that is free". Please, I am happy to discuss this, but can we discuss something of consequence, not just keep asking each other for "free images"? J Milburn (talk) 22:46, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I see you have just reverted my edits. Could you please explain to me what this image is adding to, for instance, Axis powers? Yes, the meeting was important, but why do we need a non-free image of it in that article? We do not need non-free images of everything mentioned, we need a non-free image if reader understanding would be lacking without it. At the heart of it, this image shows some men on some chairs. Why is it needed? J Milburn (talk) 22:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I have absolutely no opinion on that issue; I'm not really seeing the point of that argument. In any case, we're talking about this image. Why does seeing some men in a meeting help the reader understand the pact? You're asserting here, not explaining. J Milburn (talk) 22:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you'd struggle to find an image that doesn't help the reader to visualise. Equally, (clicked random article) a non-free image of some people about to vote, or some people campaigning, or something, would help us visualise in Czechoslovakian parliamentary election, 1925. The point is that it doesn't add to our understanding in any great way- it's not showing anything that is needing to be shown. What these people looked like while they sat in the meeting is not important to such a degree that me saying this actually sounds silly. J Milburn (talk) 00:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * If a non-free image of a dead person adds nothing to an article, I will remove it; I would hope you would do the same. The consensus is that a single image of a person in the article about them does add something, and so, if irreplaceable with a free image (as will sometimes be the case with dead people) I would not remove a single shot merely which was there to show who they were/what they looked like. However, I would most certainly remove it from other articles in which it was used (I have done so while we were talking) if the appearance of that person is not of importance to the article in question. J Milburn (talk) 00:46, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

It really is FitzSimons
Thomas FitzSimons High School, now in the article The Young Men's Leadership School at Thomas FitzSimons High School, referred to by the NRHP (in the Philly Multiple Schools Document) as Thomas Fitzsimons Junior High School (only once as far as I can see), on the school building itself as THOMAS FITZSIMONS JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL, and on page 4 of the US Constitution and by the school district as Thomas FitzSimons, but in our List of signers of the United States Constitution as Thomas Fitzsimons is causing me some problems. I've forgotten how to change article names - is there any chance you could eliminate the "The Young Men's Leadership School at" in the article title? All this is just a nice way of saying that your last reversion of me was unconstitutional. I'll attach p.4 of the Constitution so you can look for yourself (near bottom right hand corner).

This raises the question of what to do with the 150+ red links in the NRHP Philly lists. I've thought that sooner or later I will make one big article on the Multiple Property Submission and then link all the homeless red links to it. Any suggestions on how to make such an article would be appreciated, but it's clear that I can't make 150 articles based on almost no other sources than the MPS.

If the weather cooperates tomorrow, the Philly lists should have fewer than 10 entries without photos (18 left now, but they are all in the boonies). If you wanted to come to Philly for Christmas vacation, we could save a few for you!

I wanted to end the Philly marathon by doing the Germantown Historic District. About 4 miles of one road (conveniently named Germantown Avenue), with just about every block having a "significant" site, and 2 or 3 "contributing" sites, not to mention the NRHPs and NHLs already photographed. A one day marathon would be a great way to mark the end. And I wanted to thank you for getting me started on Germantown.

As always,

Smallbones (talk) 02:51, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the move. The MPS for 150+ Philly schools is in the infobox at Francis M. Drexel School.  Yes, there are almost 400 other articles (maybe 175 or so already started) but the school MPS really hangs over any attempt to fill in the red links in the Philly lists.  Most schools are barely mentioned in the MPS.  I was sure you suggested I start Germantown - but can't find it on my talk page or archive. Seattle (without the rest of King County, Washington) seems to be fairly close to FI. The remains of a tropical storm are doing the East Coast now, with flash flood warnings tonight in NJ, but tomorrow is the clearest forecast of the next 3. Smallbones (talk)


 * "Barely mentioned" means one line, rather than 2 pages (unless I'm missing where the pages are hiding). I think it's the remains of Tropical Storm Nicole (2010), moving through until Sunday.  1st heavy rains of the last 2 months were last week.  Tomorrow is the window of opportunity.  And don't forget tornados in the midwest! Smallbones (talk) 04:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Complete washout! Rained all day - I did get to search around a bit, and I think I can now do reasonable stubs. Smallbones (talk) 03:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Warning and request
Please refrain from working on images. I am asking nicely. However if you continue I will take the matter up in another venue. You clearly have a lack of understanding of the polices, copyright law, fair use and other very important issues in regards to images. If you need help please ask me or someone else that is knowledgeable with images, however please refrain form removing tags on images that are correctly tagged such as File:2007 Sports Day.jpg Soundvisions1 (talk) 10:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

I had asked nicely for you to refrain from working on image related issues and removing valid tags from images such as File:2007 Sports Day.jpg, yet you have again reverted without any discussion, implying you have some sort of immunity as an admin. The next time you remove and or revert valid deletion tags I will take this issue up at Administrator Review. Thanks you. Soundvisions1 (talk) 12:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Read Rollback feature. Rollback is to be used for removal of vandalism; are you saying that I'm a vandal because I remove these tags?  If you disagree with my removal of them, nominate them for deletion at FFD. Nyttend (talk) 13:03, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually I am not using rollback - I am reverting. Again, please refrain from removing valid image tags and please take a break from image related issues. I am more than willing to help you to better understanding Wikipedia policies as well as real world copyright laws in regards to images. Soundvisions1 (talk) 13:17, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm very well aware of image copyright policy. Are you not aware that it is considered disruptive to restore speedy deletion tags when they've just been declined by an admin?  Nyttend (talk) 13:19, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * With all due respect your comments at deletion discussions and tag removals and associated comments have aided in my realization that you do not have a very good understanding of image use policies including fair use and copyright. Again, if you wish me to help you with understandings of these please ask and I will. Repeated statements that you know about these subjects while making very questionable admin choices does not help at all. Soundvisions1 (talk) 13:27, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I do not need it, and I am not at all thankful for your continued declarations to the contrary. Kindly cease from continued offers of unwanted instruction.  Nyttend (talk) 13:30, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * That is fine. So noted. Soundvisions1 (talk) 13:34, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Nyttend, you'll note I have now tagged this image for speedy. This is not to piss you off (so I hope it doesn't). I don't know why you turned down the original - it certainly is a copyvio although I have tagged it as no permission instead, as AGF the uploader may be/have been in a position to ask the college for permission to release the image. However, the college (not the uploader) would need to supply written/email permission to OTRS - this is both our policy and the college's policy You may not copy (other than a copy for personal use),                    modify, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce,                     transfer, resell, or republish any of the Contents of this                     Website without the prior written consent of Vidura College. Also, image is not in use now, and seems never to have been used, so could be deleted as orphan in any case.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 13:43, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * In which case I apologise - I had not seen that notice. Definitely my bad.  Image is still orphaned, but I'll leave it for now. Elen of the Roads (talk) 13:56, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

AN3 - Morison
I think that the history shown at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring does show edit warring despite the lack of technical 3RR violation. I was apparently investigating at the same time as you, and had decided to block Skywriter for repeatedly re-inserting the same material without first attaining consensus. I defer to your judgment if you would prefer that they be unblocked with a warning. Reply here is fine. Regards, - 2/0 (cont.) 13:21, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm quite unwilling to block on edit warring grounds in cases like this, but I'd not considered any other grounds for blocking. I believe that this was a good block, so no complaints.  Nyttend (talk) 13:25, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, wait, you've not blocked? Please do so for the amount of time that you believe appropriate.  Nyttend (talk) 13:26, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I remembered to refresh the AN3 report at the last moment, done now. I hope that Nick-D's requests to the biography and military history wikiprojects attract some more attention eventually. - 2/0 (cont.) 13:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Cabela's Alaskan AdventureSSSS
Dear Nyttend. I undid your contribution to the page Cabela's Alaskan Adventures. The game is named with an S (so adventures, not adventure). Look at this evidence:


 * An picture of the xbox version of the game
 * An picture of the PlayStation 2 version of the game
 * Cabela's Alaskan Adventures at Xbox.com
 * The official site

Every evidence says it is Cabela's Alaskan Adventures with an s. The picture on the page is the windows version. (and the article clearly says the windows version is named different) The original version was the ones from PS2 and Xbox 360. The pictures above clearly says its with an s. You obviously don't know anything about this videogame and only act with one picture as your reference. --Kennyannydenny (talk) 16:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Blackford County Courthouse
Nyttend - thanks for the link to the Blackford County Courthouse in the National Register of Historic Places. I sent away for a paper version of the form (which I now have), but the link will be useful. I am currently finishing a page on the Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District -- it is in my sandbox -- I am still tinkering with wording, and need to streamline the footnotes. I have already completed List of properties (Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District). Currently, my next planned project is the Blackford County Courthouse. However, if this would ruin your own plans, let me know. I have several small towns I could work on instead, and I took 4 or 5 pictures (including two inside) of the courthouse that you could possibly use that I can upload. TwoScars (talk) 16:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)