User talk:Nyttend/Archive 18

New Vrindaban, West Virginia
Hey Nyttend, I reverted the New Vrindaban page back to New Vrindaban, West Virginia as you had previously placed it. Not sure why the person from Michigan reverted it back and claimed New Vrindaban was not a "standard" community. Since the town was founded by people of the Krishnah faith and the majority of people who live there are Krishnah doesn't change it's status of unincorporated town which is recognized by the State of West Virginia and is listed as a populated place by the USGS. I actually live 6 miles from New Vrindaban and know the place very well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bryan27 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Washington Township, Ohio disambiguation links
Hi Nyttend. Regarding the many links to the Washington Township, Ohio (disambiguation) redirect, this is done per WP:INTDABLINK. This rule mostly applies to See also sections and hatnotes, but in this case, INTDABLINK does apply. The sentence


 * It is one of forty-three Washington Townships statewide.

is clearly intended to go to the disambiguation page instead of a particular Washington Township, so I invoked the rule. Would you object to my restoring my edits? Thanks, -- Ja Ga  talk 07:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Over at the WP:DPL project, the aim is to fix every link to a disambiguation page. We have reports that tell us what articles link to disambiguation pages, and therefore need fixing. Washington Township, Montgomery County, Ohio, for example, comes up on our lists as needing fixing, thanks to this link to Washington Township, Ohio. That's clearly an intentional link to a disambig. Do you agree? -- Ja Ga  talk 18:08, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks much. -- Ja Ga  talk 05:42, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Fox News category
I'm not clear on how is different from, which was deleted before. Good Ol’factory (talk) 14:08, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Clutts House
Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 14:48, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Assessment
Wow, sorry I didn't realize I undid your edits that many times. I usually just empty out Category:Unassessed National Register of Historic Places articles and don't really pay attention to their histories. I usually rate articles this short as stubs just because I can't really qualify them as "start" quality. I tend to be more harsh when rating articles than most, so I'm sorry. I really do consider articles this short (although much better than the two-sentence generic NRHP article) as still stubs.. although I would call them "good stubs" as has been done at WP:NRHP numerous times.

If something like this happens again, drop me a note on my talk page or something. My fault.--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 05:30, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sacred Heart Catholic Church (McCartyville, Ohio)
Dravecky (talk) 04:38, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

County templates for Iowa
I think you originally created the templates for the Iowa counties and therefore wanted your input. Another editor recently asked me about why his town was not in the template (currently it is red-linked) which caused me to investigate. I have seen that most but not all the links in the county templates are blue-linked. Also I found that there are many unincorporated communities and townships not included in the templates. I have found a good source the "State Library of Iowa" online that actually has all of the GNIS data categorized into MS excel data sheets. I plan on updating the templates with all of the townships and unincorporated communities even if they will be red linked. What do you think of this? What about adding historical "ghost" towns to the template? I am somewhat a editing newbie but have been very active. Check out the communities division of Project Iowa at WP:IA/C and related subpages, activated only in mid December. I would appreciate your feedback on the template ideas and the communities division pages. I will check back here for your answer. -- Rife Ideas  Talk  20:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Frankly, I don't think it's a good idea, because in general, navigation templates are meant to navigate between existing articles. As well, they can help to show which articles are missing for entities in a specific, limited group — for this reason, it can be helpful to add links for the townships.  However, there's no set number of unincorporated communities or ghost towns in a county that could or should have articles, so it's really not helpful to include them as redlinks.  Nevertheless, county templates throughout the country include redlinks for unincorporated communities, so it's not as if your addition of such links would go against the way that we use these templates.  In conclusion — although adding townships is good, I don't think it's a good idea to add the communities, but I won't complain or revert or anything else if you do it.  Feel free to ask questions whenever you have them :-) Nyttend (talk) 22:19, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Understanding your reasons and weighing the request from the other editor I spoke of in the previous post, I think I will take a county by county approach as articles are or plan to be developed. The other editor claims he/she will be developing articles on all the unincorporated communities in his county Clayton County, Iowa and has started 2 already so I will update that county and see what develops. On another thought – do articles about unincorporated communities get deleted for any reason? Also I have found 2 counties with a community having the same name Burr Oak, Iowa (Winneshiek county) has an article already and one Burr Oak (Mills county) does not. What is the procedure for correcting this when (and if) an article is made for the Burr Oak in Mills county? It is not a redirect just no provision made for 2 towns having the same name in the same state. See the table I made for unincorporated communities at WikiProject Iowa/Communities/UnincALL CITIES. -- Rife Ideas   Talk  00:34, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * They definitely get deleted for reasons such as copyvios, hoaxes, etc., but they don't get deleted for notability reasons if they can be shown really to exist. As far as names like you're talking about — there are several issues at hand.  If there are multiple communities in the state with that name, but exactly one is incorporated, the city article is entitled "PLACENAME, Iowa", while the unincorporated community article is entitled "PLACENAME, COUNTYNAME, Iowa".  See Northwood, Ohio and Northwood, Logan County, Ohio: I know it's a different state, but Ohio uses the same system, along with the other 48 states.  If there are multiple cities or multiple unincorporated communities with the same name, "PLACENAME, Iowa" is a disambiguation page, and every community article is entitled "PLACENAME, COUNTYNAME, Iowa".  See Petersburg, Iowa and the unincorporated communities linked thereon.  One caveat — if there are multiple communities of the same name in the same state, but only one of them has an article, it's best to have the article at "PLACENAME, Iowa".  We can always move it to "PLACENAME, COUNTYNAME, Iowa" if another article is created, but we really don't need to disambiguate in a case like Burr Oak unless you (or someone else) are just about to create an article on another one.  Nyttend (talk) 04:11, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

File:David Cicilline.jpg
Hi, you declined the speedy deletion request, so I nominated it for deletion. Regards Hekerui (talk) 17:19, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I should have noted when/where it was previously published. Best wishes Hekerui (talk) 23:54, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Not spam?
If User:Linzmax1/E. Lindsey Maxwell II. Esq. is not the very definition of self-promotional spam masquerading as an article, I don't know what is. Standards are definitely slipping round here and I am getting very discouraged. – ukexpat (talk) 13:05, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. You probably don't read many marketing materials, especially from lawyers. I do every day and this is straight out of Legal Marketing 101. So we will have to agree to differ. – ukexpat (talk) 14:00, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Red links
For the record, I didn't intend to imply your speedy decline was wrong or inappropriate, so I apologize if it came out that way. I just meant to say that I thought I'd read an AfD for it a while back, but that clearly I was mistaken. 28bytes (talk) 02:33, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Worcester pic
Kudos, how do u find such great pics! Seriously! No reply needed. Thanks. --Doncram (talk) 03:44, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Wiki-stalk alert, but I am proud to say I took the picture. :)--TM 22:45, 11 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks Namiba. I thot N found it on Flickr or some such.  Anyhow the pic seriously is great, with its stunning perspective, those straight up and down lines on the main tower.  My own poor camera or skills as a photographer would have that curved and unimpressive.  Goth!  Thanks. --Doncram (talk) 04:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

GA review of Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District
Hi! Someone (being me) has finally got around to GA reviewing Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District. I'm prepared to pass it, subject to the resolution of some very easy-to-fix issues surrounding the images on the page. Please read over the review and feel free to drop me a note on my user page when you feel the outstanding issues have been resolved. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:20, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I got distracted by another matter, but in case you haven't spotted it I've passed this as a Good Article, congratulations. It turns out you were right, alt text isn't necessary for GA.  (But you should still add it anyway!). - DustFormsWords (talk) 01:03, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

A query regarding my request for speedy deletion
Thank you for your consideration of my request for speedy deletion. Your edit gave the reason for declining as "It's a redirect, not a disambiguation page", which is of course true in a literal sense. However, the page name is Abdul Khaliq (disambiguation), a name which means the page can only be a disambiguation page or a redirect to one. There is no disambiguation page for this term, and none is reqired, so the redirect has nowhere to point. It is thus surplus to requirements and I believe has an uncontroversial need to be deleted. I believed that the simplest and clearest way to do this was by use of the template db-disambig, its name alone making it implicitly a disambiguation page. Clearly you disagree with my reasoning at some point.

I realise that administration backlogs can be large and that administrators do not wish to spend large amounts of time investigating and correcting the procedural errors of others. I regard it as perfectly reasonable that you declined my request on what you seem to have regarded as a prima facie procedural error. However in order to avoid wasting both administrators' and my own time in future, I wonder if you could take the time to consider whether it is reasonable to request the speedy deletion of this page based on the reasoning I outlined above, and if so, could you indicate what the best and most reasonable way to communicate this to administrators would be in the future.

Many thanks, --MegaSloth (talk) 12:52, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion Help
I was wondering if you could help me clean up this mess from this user: Special:Contributions/N_easter12345
 * The Last Shot (2010 film)
 * The Last Shot 2
 * The Reporter (film)

In Feb 2010, he tried with one movie:Articles_for_deletion/The_last_shot_%282010_film%29, now he has three.

Thanks. CanadianLinuxUser (talk) 15:22, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District
Hello Nyttend. The old picture of the Hartford City Courthouse Square (with the horses etc.) came from my 78-year-old father, who grew up in that town. I will check with him about the source, may take a few days. He has one room that is full of old "stuff". What is "alt text"?TwoScars (talk) 01:59, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Nyttend, the courthouse square picture came from dad, who got it from the Blackford County Historical Society. According to the president of the BCHS, the picture was one of a set of about 200 pictures donated to the Society by the family of an amateur photographer.  The photographer's name is Frank Kleefisch.  There is a Frank Kleefisch from Hartford City that died in 1962 -- probably the same guy.  I could probably get permission via e-mail from the BCHS, if necessary, to use the picture and put it in the public domain -- what would the procedure be?  BTW, are pictures scanned from the Blackford County Interim Report "fair game" to be used in Wikipedia as public domain? TwoScars (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Please do not delete New Albany entries
I have brought the pertinent discussion to the WP:USCITY page, and would like to keep the discussion there instead of in the edits. I will accede to whatever the group agrees upon regarding small bands, etc. Please let's move the discussion there, this is nonproductive. 71.74.87.123 (talk) 04:21, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

response
The addition of a notable band is NOT covered in WP:USCITY, it is in a gray area, there is clearly NOT a rule that says that notable bands from a particular town cannot be under the notable persons section. Chiding only came about due to repeated deletions of this and other additions to the article where actions other that deletion were appropriate (i.e. adding a "citation?" tag, etc.). If you were a little softer with the delete key, I'd be a little softer with the English.

Constructive points are always welcome, and I respect those who enforce the rules. However, your deletions are more destructive than constructive, and fail to allow for reasonable interpretations. Please allow the group to make a decision before you delete again. I'd assume that it would be preferable to err on the side of content while waiting for a ruling, instead of erring on the side of deletion, especially when the data is clearly pertinent and nondestructive. 71.74.87.123 (talk) 04:31, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Again, the link to the band was there, as needed. Please wait for a group decision, if the group says don't include it I'll gladly let it fall off.71.74.87.123 (talk) 04:33, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the reformat, I fixed the links. The section is titled Notable Natives and Residents, the citations for New Hollow clearly state where they are from, so should not be an issue there. If the group decides it goes, I won't add them anymore. 71.74.87.123 (talk) 04:39, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Immaculate Conception Catholic Church (Celina, Ohio)
I think it could be a GA with relatively little work. It's rather complete, although, as usual, I'd like to see a little more discussion of interiors, particularly of the church (which I agree is quite grand). If you can work in the interiors, I'd rate it B-class right away. It's well-illustrated, and I can try to do some perspective correction to fix the falling-over-backwards look. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. And congratulations on the Hartford Square GA!  Acroterion  (talk)  04:58, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Changing the name of WSPA
FYI- Please note per discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Public art, WikiProject Council/Proposals/Public art and here, that the coordinators of this project have updated the project's name. They are aware that I've been working on cleaning up the backlinked pages. So, as soon as I get some more time, I'll be reverting your changes, in order to continue cleaning up the project's old pages. --Funandtrvl (talk) 19:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. States/General
The above is a redirect to WikiProject U.S. states/General, which uses a lower case "states". There are no significant backlinks to the redirect pg, and it is not needed. Was there a reason why you reverted my revision? --Funandtrvl (talk) 20:29, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Neurocristopathy
Just a note, to which you needn't reply, to thank you for your help with this article and all the nice things you said and did, seconded by Gfoley4, to restore the temperature of my cooling enthusiasm for the Wikipedia venture. 150K+ contributions?! Quite a hard act to follow. Best wishes. Etche homo (talk) 13:58, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Help Untangle Provo Utah, Ogden Utah and Salt Lake Utah Metropolitan pages
As a resident of Utah I found the original SLC-Ogden Metropolitan and Micropolitan map you uploaded confusing. We have 3 metros in Utah that we consider coherent that always go together Ogden-Clearfield, Salt Lake and Provo-Orem. I made a new map and uploaded it to modify yours, I also changed the color key. Anyway, I'm new and I think I made things more complicated than needs be. So please check it out and see if you can erase your older version of the map so that my new one can replace it. Sorry for the mess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sphansen47 (talk • contribs) 09:15, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK Republic of China – South Africa relations
If you get a chance, could you review Template talk:Did you know and see if your concerns are allayed? —  AjaxSmack   09:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I left a reply to you on my talk page
It's of no particular consequence, but it's there. :-) --Orlady (talk) 04:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Immaculate Conception Catholic Church (Celina, Ohio)
HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   18:02, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Congrats, nice DYK in lede position, with pic! I see the pic chosen works well as small thumb, but i like your main pic in the article, well-establishing grandeur. :) --Doncram (talk) 18:15, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
multichill (talk) 21:14, 18 January 2011 (UTC) The article in question is User:Process Plus/Process Plus. Thank you. WuhWuzDat 18:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello.... I am sorry if what I am doing is incorrect but I am unfamiliar with wikipedia's communication methods. An unpublished page I was working on was deleted from my account. I was told it was my user name in regards to promotional advertising. I am creating a wiki page for my job, I am only an intern, and I have been working on our wiki page for a couple of weeks on and off. I can change the information or register a new user name, but I need the web page info immediately or my boss says he will fire me on grounds of not doing my job and having no proof I have been working over the past week or so. Please help me get the page backl up, or at least the info emailed to me.--Process Plus (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The article in question is User:Process Plus/Process Plus. Thank you. WuhWuzDat 18:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)--Process Plus (talk) 18:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC) can I please receive a copy of my article. I have been working for weeks on it. it is my first wiki page.

DYK for Steele Dunning Historic District
HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   00:07, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

PRocess Plus
The article in question is User:Process Plus/Process Plus. Thank you. WuhWuzDat 18:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello.... I am sorry if what I am doing is incorrect but I am unfamiliar with wikipedia's communication methods. An unpublished page I was working on was deleted from my account. I was told it was my user name in regards to promotional advertising. I am creating a wiki page for my job, I am only an intern, and I have been working on our wiki page for a couple of weeks on and off. I can change the information or register a new user name, but I need the web page info immediately or my boss says he will fire me on grounds of not doing my job and having no proof I have been working over the past week or so. Please help me get the page backl up, or at least the info emailed to me.--Process Plus (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)--Process Plus (talk) 19:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Undeletion you requested
Suspicious, moi? - but just to close the loop: see WP:AN. No need to reply if all's well. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Forget it - I have seen your actual message on his user page, I'm convinced. I have also given him advice abut COI, peacock terms, notability etc. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 21:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors
I saw the quality of your contributions at DYK and clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Wikipedia contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador,Sadads (talk) 00:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Millen House
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   06:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Big Ten law schools, etc.
Thanks for your message. I think it is a valid criterion for speedy deletion, since the name of the category does not make logical sense (the articles for Big Ten Conference and Ivy League are quite clear that the terms are defined as sports leagues). And while I understand that the terms are colloquially used to refer to the schools collectively, doing so in the case of graduate schools does not make any sense or have any significance or notability. If you disagree, I'm happy to have a discussion on the deletion page. Jadunne (talk) 06:50, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I think it should be discussed on the discussion page for the template in question -- that's where I just posted my feelings about the template. ;) Banaticus (talk) 07:00, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Unused images
Hi Nyttend. I notice you declined my speedy nomination of as not being a test page. Is there any way to have such self-indulgent images deleted? They will never find a use on Wikipedia. Regards, WWGB (talk) 07:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't really qualify
Tell me why Chua_Linh-Son_Buddhist_Temple "Doesn't really qualify" but St._Andrew's_Episcopal_Church_(Amarillo) does? St. Andrews has a more historic past, since 1891, and has one of the largest organs made by one of the most famous organ makers in the world. While the Buddhist Temple has only been around since 1998? Can I get St._Andrew's_Episcopal_Church_(Amarillo) undeleted please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Copritch (talk • contribs) 10:52, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Suggestions on new entry
Hi Nyttend, I noticed your comment on the Cleveland Street Workhouse entry this morning: you were in favour of keeping the entry while someone else wanted it cancelled. I have a large amount of material I am planning to quickly add to it. It'll be concise but complete and I have plenty of references including many high profile newspaper articles. The issue this page had previously was notability but a lot has been written about it, especially recently, so I am convinced an article is well worth writing.

I am a beginner with Wikipedia, moving the first baby steps in what I feel is difficult ground, so any advice you feel like giving me, would be really welcome.

Thank you!

TheHolyV (talk) 18:01, 22 January 2011 (UTC)TheHolyV

Suggestions on these points welcome
Hi Nyttend, thank you so much for the super speedy reply! I am still writing that entry and I was wondering how long you think I have before someone flags it up since that same entry was previously deleted: I have never managed to read it but I assume the entry was not done properly (no references, unbiased point of view, relevant information, etc...) and I have the impression those pages are going through a harder scrutiny.

Everything that I have put up yesterday is factual and referentiable but I feel it is only partial at this stage. I wonder how long it is fair to leave the entry in a not-yet-optimal stage and what potential complaints from experienced moderators like yourself could be, so that I can work on them. Let me know if you have a minute!

TheHolyV (talk) 18:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)TheHolyV
 * FYI - I tagged it because Cleveland Street Workhouse had been deleted on multiple occasions as a copyvio. As long as this isn't copyvio, I don't have issues with it. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

deletion article
hello why you have delete the article maria maragkoudaki? the article was proper modifed. the sourse that was used was from external site's Manolis ma (talk) 18:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

For future ref...
Hi Nyttend - saw this in my watchlist: "restored "Template:Expand" (251 revisions restored: I can't remember how to find subpages except by deleting the page, so restoring to be able to get the link for finding subpages)"... for future reference - "Special:Special Pages" -> "All pages with prefix" is the easiest way :) Grutness... wha?   22:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Stringer Stone House
you asked me to get photos of this place next time i am in jefferson co. Even on sunny days this time of year, the lighting stinks. It will be spring before i bother trying to snap photos outside. Roseohioresident (talk) 23:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

AWB error
In reply to :
 * That's not the case - it changed, an unneccessary pipe, to  . The link to the disambiguation page was already there - see  (the link in the infobox). —   Tivedshambo   (t/c) 16:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Waverly Township, Pennsylvania
I am refuting your assertion that the Waverly, Pennsylvania article should be different from that of Waverly Township, Lackawanna County, Pennsylvania.

Classifying Waverly as an "unincorporated community" is a misnomer, as it was previously an incorporated borough. However, the article as it currently stands is incorrect, as the entirety of Abington Township (now called Waverly Township) was formed from the borough, signifying that the bounds of the community and the township are the same, and that they should not be separated. Note that I corrected this error in the township article when I merged the two articles.

For evidence of my assertion, please note that Abington Township did not exist per the 1910 census report ; however, please note the footnote in the 1920 census report stating that "Abington Township organized from Waverly borough [...] since 1910".

I would also note that much of the Waverly, Pennsylvania article's content refers to the township's history, and not that of the alleged "unincorporated community."

You failed to address any of my points in discussion, and instead referred to "standard practice." Out of curiosity, would it be "standard practice" to create an article for an alleged "unincorporated community" that encompassed 90% of a municipality (as an example)? In addition, is there any link that explicitly backs up that creating separate articles is "standard practice"?

Remember, the township is less than 5 square miles in area, and there is no separate census data for Waverly. Mac3387 (talk) 17:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I noted your link to the "unincorporated communities" links for Pennsylvania. However, I do not see any other cases where a borough that disincorporated and formed a township has a "unincorporated community" article, and would suggest that Waverly is actually the exception rather than the norm here. I have identified 8 other cases per my review of census report footnotes, as this appeared to be a very rare phenomenon, but none having "unincorporated community" articles:


 * Three others in Lackawanna County:
 * Elmhurst, Borough of --> Elmhurst, Township of
 * Glenburn, Borough of --> Glenburn, Township of (although there is a separate CDP article)
 * La Plume, Borough of --> La Plume, Township of


 * Two in Greene County:
 * New Freeport, Borough of --> Freeport, Township of
 * Graysville, Borough of --> Gray, Township of


 * And three in Tioga County:
 * Covington, Borough of --> Putnam, Township of
 * Osceola, Borough of --> Osceola, Township of
 * Nelson, Borough of --> Nelson, Township of


 * I would also note that my position is somewhat based in how a "borough" was defined in the 1800s, when Waverly Borough was formed ( - see lefthand column).


 * Certainly, if your position is that densely populated areas should have separate articles, then certainly most of the above cases are worthy of articles. I would also mention that this nationwide policy may need to be re-looked at, as the rules lead to nonsensical results in the context of how Pennsylvania is structured (although I could see how this approach would be useful in most of the United States, especially in PLSS areas where townships may or may not have more of a sense of community). Mac3387 (talk) 02:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't see how any of the examples you cited are relevant or analogous to this case. All three of the examples you cite are for municipal mergers or consolidations. While certainly West Fairview Borough was disincorporated, it did not form a new township with the same bounds; rather, it dissolved and became part of a larger township, and still forms its own village as a part of the larger whole. Mac3387 (talk) 02:24, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * You're missing my point as well. The point I'm trying to make is that a borough should be defined as one community. If a township has the same boundaries as a former incorporated borough, then it logically follows that it should be defined as one community, which would lead to having two articles concerning Waverly being nonsensical. Mac3387 (talk) 02:30, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think we're going to get anywhere. No offense meant to you, but in order to make this discussion more constructive for both of us, I'd like to request an informal mediation, preferably with someone who has a strong familiarity with Pennsylvania geography. I agree with you that in most cases, separate articles should be maintained for similarly named villages and townships (e.g. Cheltenham, Pennsylvania); however, I still maintain this is a unique case (along with the other examples listed above) due to its history and must be treated as such. Mac3387 (talk) 02:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Article: Ho Yan Hor
Hi Nyttend, I would like to create the article for Ho Yan Hor, a chinese herbal tea recipe. Something like Wong Lo Kat. My intention is not advertising, the article is just about to introduce the tea and its history which related to Ipoh, Malaysia since the Tin Era. As the page previously been deleted, I afraid that my newly rewrite article will treat as advertising, so here I would like to get your advice whether can I create the article again. Thanks! Felixlhk (talk) 07:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Nyttend, I had reply in my own talk page. Thanks!Felixlhk (talk) 00:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Trucchis.gif
I'm sure you're molre familiar with image deletion practice than I am, however I'd appreciate it if you laid off the PAs and especially the claim of "forum shopping"

This image fails NFCC point 1 — ''No free equivalent. Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose.'' because, as noted on the deletion request the only purpose here is to show the company logo, which is already being done by the free image File:Trucchi's Supermarket, West Bridgewater MA.jpg from Commons.

Now how does this image still meet NFCC 1?

If you think there's a better route to deleting this image, then please point me at it. However as far as I can see, db-badfairuse is still appropriate. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:12, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

deleting article
hello, You have delete an article 22 Jan 2011 Maria Maragkoudaki. I have make a copyright donation after you make the deletion. i send them e-mail for the donation but the have not answer yet to my e-mail. what i will do now? Maragkoudakis (talk) 17:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Florida breweries for deletion
The article List of Florida breweries is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of Florida breweries until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Corvus cornix talk  18:52, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Eureka (CDP), Wisconsin
Hi would you please take a look at the article Eureka (CDP), Wisconsin to see if the unincorporated community of Eureka, Wisconsin in Winnebago County is in fact is a CDP. There has been an ongoing debate within WikiProject Wisconsin about naming conventions for Wisconsin towns. The question is what is important:Wisconsin towns or unincorporated communities? There is a town of Eureka, Wisconsin in Polk County and this is the only town in Eureka with this name. There has been a debate about this going on right now so you may want to look at this. Thanks-RFD (talk) 19:58, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks- I could make the changes myself but we are in the middle of a discussion. RFD (talk) 21:01, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I decided to be bold and make the changes after all. Thanks-RFD (talk) 21:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Gregg's various.JPG
I uploaded this under a wrong license two years ago. It is not actually free, and there is no good reason why its inclusion meets WP:NFCC. Please delete it, I will remove from the article. Thanks, Adabow (talk · contribs) 02:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It contains the company's logo and designer packaging. I remember reading somewhere on wiki (can't remember where) that packaging is not free to photograph and self-publish. Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:00, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Naming conventions
Should Ybor City, Tampa be moved to Ybor City, since it's simpler and unambiguous? Coconut Grove, Florida was moved to Coconut Grove for that reason. Why shouldn't the same apply to Ybor? - Marc Averette (talk) 03:32, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

NEIGHBORHOODNAME is far less common for US neighborhoods than NEIGHBORHOODNAME, CITYNAME or NEIGHBORHOODNAME (CITYNAME). Nyttend (talk) 03:33, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * But a name like Marathon Shores is unambiguous. Shouldn't Marathon Shores, Marathon be moved to a simpler unambiguous name per naming convention?  User:Bsherr told me this is the correct way to do it.  -  Marc Averette (talk) 03:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Moving a page from a common format to an uncommon one is very rarely a good idea. It's quite inappropriate to pretend that a move is noncontroversial when the proposal has just been rejected.  If you wish to have these pages moved, please follow the procedure spelled out at WP:RM.  Nyttend (talk) 04:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Then why was Coconut Grove, Miami accepted for a move to Coconut Grove. It's a neighborhood within the City of Miami.  In fact, all the neighborhoods in Miami and Atlanta are following either the simplified unambiguous format or the paranthetical one, not the comma convention.  -  Marc Averette (talk) 04:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)


 * That's nonsense, Nyttend. Requiring an appositive on a U.S. neighborhood is no more a convention than "Apple, Fruit". The name of the neighborhood is, simply, the name of the neighborhood. While individual WikiProject may have developed their own conventions, in the absence of anything, Wikipedia's standard rules for disambiguation apply. Absence of a convention is not an excuse to invent one's own rules. Of course, if there is a dispute, your're right that the matter should be brought to RM. --Bsherr (talk) 05:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Question about general process re possible copyvio and images
I see that you deleted the series of Brass Ring images.

I noticed they had what appeared to be valid licenses, although obviously, anyone can add a license, even if they copy an image. I also wondered if the creator of the image also provided them to MIT. I checked to see who added the tags (User:GrapedApe), and saw that notice had not been given to the uploaders.

My thinking was that the tagger should notify the uploader, then see if the uploader had an explanation that would be satisfactory.

Another approach is to delete the images, then allow them to be uploaded again if permission issues can be sorted out. While I can understand taking a hard line and deleting anything that looks like a copyvio, I can also see the value in waiting a few hours to see if there is a satisfactory explanation.

You have tons more experience in image work than I have, so I'm looking at this as a learning experience. Can you share some thought son how this issue should be handled in general?-- SPhilbrick  T  16:32, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Tmeplate:Expand
What happened to the remaining 15k transclusions? Rich Farmbrough, 23:53, 27th day of January in the year 2011 (UTC).


 * Special:PrefixIndex will do the job. Rich Farmbrough, 02:46, 28th day of January in the year 2011 (UTC).

Boticca - Thank You!
I saw your note at WP:VP/T, read your comments at the talk page, and was convinced, so I've moved it to mainspace. Nyttend (talk) 01:08, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank You! Best Regards, --Trident13 (talk) 01:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Cartoon europe 1914.jpg
Hey Nyttend,

I am not exactly familiar with the Wikipedia policy for referencing images, but I'd like to show an image in a talk page from this link: http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/078/884/original/73429_10150286933680483_366029555482_15139611_4736733_n.jpg?1287798825.

It is obviously a free image. Let me know if there's any way I can use it on Wikipedia. Bobthefish2 (talk) 05:21, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That's kind of weird.... I mean what's the point of "Wikipedia-use only" if it is not an acceptable tag? Anyhow, the image comes from a well-established meme site. In my case, it is just an example from a family of 4chan memes. Bobthefish2 (talk) 05:27, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You said:
 * I deleted it because it was marked as permitted for use only on Wikipedia
 * and I basically said:
 * What's the meaning of "Wikipedia-use only" if this is not a tag Wikipedia accepts. Bobthefish2 (talk) 05:36, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I can't re-upload the file. I changed the tag to "found this image somewhere". The uploader kept telling me to check file deletion history. Bobthefish2 (talk) 05:58, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That'd be kind of stupid isn't it? How can Wikipedia tell if the actual owner gave consent? In fact, what if I say it is my own work? How can any of you even verify if it is? I don't really see how all this bureaucracy is useful. Bobthefish2 (talk) 06:10, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Te Uruhina McGarvey.
I retagged it with a different tag. Google search turns up fewer than 30 results. Couple that with the dubious quality of the entry, and I think it's removable. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:11, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Crowswing Books
I believe this should not have been speedily deleted, because it survived a previous AfD. I doubt it would survive one now though, so I do have a certain amount of sympathy for IAR here... Thparkth (talk) 02:46, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, immediately after writing this I saw that you had already restored the article. Thanks for being so conscientious, which I have noticed you always are. Even for a stickler for the CSD rules like me, I could only bring myself register the weakest of objections to this particular deletion anyway... Thparkth (talk) 02:52, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Articles_for_deletion/Crowswing_Books_(2nd_nomination) Thparkth (talk) 03:11, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Walter Curtis House
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   18:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification - Norton County
Thanks for the notification about Norton County. That was on the trip through Kansas and I just stopped at every courthouse on the way. I do keep track of the number of sites I've photographed - that makes 976, just a couple dozen short of 1000 - when I had planned to stop counting. The snow storms have made that goal a bit harder to achieve and every little bit helps! Smallbones (talk) 18:57, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


 * A bit of planning/daydreaming here. I plan to drive to Denver again this year (April?) and take about a week doing it.  I thought I might as well take US 30, Business 30, and/or Lincoln Highway, essentially all the way and get a few photos.  I can probably do most/all of Pennsylvania US 30 before then and there are only a couple of left in NJ.  I might even send a few notes out to see if I can meet Ammodramus (sp?) in Nebraska and others.  How about you in Indiana/Ohio?  I don't think there is a category "Fully Illustrated Highways" and I probably couldn't get there anyway, but it could be fun.  BTW, there are about 31 sites in Mansfield, Ohio most lined up on a few blocks of Park St., which looks like it could be Old US 30 to me.  Smallbones (talk) 22:18, 1 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I'll probably avoid Bloom-town. Even if Park Street isn't on US 30, it would be too big of a temptation to pass them up (unless you want to reserve them?).  So if I get my stuff together, it looks like US 30 from Atlantic City, NJ to the Ohio-Indiana border will be covered. Not too shabby of a goal. Illinois shouldn't be too hard either. Haven't looked at Indiana. Smallbones (talk) 05:30, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

WP:ATHLETE
Just thought you might like to know that WP:ATHLETE was rewritten through a RfC almost a year ago. WP:NHOCKEY is just a shortcut to the section of it that deals with ice hockey. Being fully professional no longer meets the bar for most sports. Anyways just thought I would give you a heads up. -DJSasso (talk) 01:59, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Award
I don't think you read my rationale all the way through. If it's not an A10 it surely qualifies as G2. Note that all the subpages for it were just speedied, so it would only make sense that the parent be deleted too. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 02:26, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Colonel Joseph Barker House
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   12:03, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Spring Children's Museum backstage pass?
Hello! I wanted to touch base and let you know that, as part of the ongoing project with Wikipedia, The Children's Museum of Indianapolis is considering a second Backstage Pass Event this spring, likely to be held in April. Since you were interested previously but were unable to attend, I wanted to feel out if a Saturday event would work for you this coming April? Thanks for helping us gauge interest! Things are moving along with the image donation and there should be more press soon to share as things move forward. Thanks again for your interest! HstryQT (talk) 18:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Cassius Clark Thompson House
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Template_talk:Did_you_know
Some time ago you reviewed this article and passed it. Another editor has jumped in and while I think we arrived at a better hook, he seems to be very highly POVed towards the article subject, which I don't think is helping the process. Could you look into the hook again? Thanks, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 02:25, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Just of the latest hook I proposed. PS. But as the 2nd reviewer has okay'ed it now, I think it is all fine. Thanks, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 02:24, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Delete
Seeing as you haven't had a response, could you please now delete File:Gregg's various.JPG per G7? Thanks, Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:30, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

3rd Party Review on Fairport Harbor, Ohio
Hi! I was asked to review the section on the Gas incident, and I have posted my conclusion at Talk:Fairport Harbor, Ohio. As I explain in the conclusion that it is not final, and I would suggest that if you disagree with it, RFC might be a possible way to go. Stephen! Coming... 18:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

crunkcore
how can a dubious tag be uncited? there are DOUBTS among multiple users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.136.249.101 (talk) 01:41, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * what do you think about this and this  then  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.136.249.101 (talk) 01:46, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Samuel Danford Farm
Hello, I looked at it again at DYK noms, and don't know why I wrote ALT1. I re-approved the hook with the clarification; it should be ok now. Sorry for my screw up. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:12, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Non free media
Can you please take a look at these and see if they meet the Non-free content criteria? I'm a little behind on the nuances of policy on these. There are some more Cricket world cup related files that have been uploaded recently, and have to be checked as they're found! I've tagged a few, but there are likely more. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:12, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Cricket World Cup media -- An article gallery of non-free media (and all the files have to be checked too)
 * File:De Ghuma Ke.ogg -- too lengthy @58sec in my opinion
 * Sorry, I thought I'd replied to your note earlier. The reasons I was asking about the article: 1. The images are all high res, 2. We already have the exact same content (if you see the images, they are all linked to the specific world cup article and this non-free image gallery) in the parent articles of the individual world cups, is another article that just discusses these non-free images allowed per our NFCC criteria? cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  20:01, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Charles B. Russell House
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   18:05, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Vinegar Hill Historic District
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   12:03, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Going forward
As you know, a recent project of mine has involved applying the "convert" template to census area figures for counties, so that it is always presented consistently. However, due to the fact that the existing data in the articles is rounded to no decimal places, there are times when this is problematic (when the article states that the water area is 0 miles and 1 square kilometer, for example). The real problem is the data, and whether the convert template is applied or not, it's just not correct. The ultimate solution is to fix the data in those articles; and rather than go through and update the articles based on the 2000 gazetteer data, it probably makes sense to wait until the 2010 figures are available. I have the means of doing such updates through AWB, but it may be that a bot will be set up for the purpose, and it would be nice if a good, new format for the data could be worked out before that happens; I don't know if plans are already afoot for that or not, or who would be managing the process.

I wanted to try to get to the core of this issue, but I also want to state that I fully recognize that your goal is to improve the encyclopedia, and I know you are extremely active here. My goal is the same. We each have our strengths, but we clash every so often and sometimes we both allow it to escalate a bit. I'd really prefer to avoid that going forward, if we can, and work together and to be able to communicate when our paths cross. For my part, I apologize if I have come across negatively to you at times. Can we put these issues behind us? I hope we can. Omnedon (talk) 04:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response; I'm glad that there isn't a problem. On an unrelated note, the census has released the 2010 map data for some states, and I'm in a position to generate maps from that for townships, counties, and now also populated places; so if you have a need for any of those, feel free to let me know. Omnedon (talk) 13:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

“Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources.”
The United States Census Bureau defines census-designated places (CDPs): thus official Census publications, such as its annually-updated Boundary and Annexation Survey, are the definitive source of information about CDPs - the most “reliable” and definitive information on the subject. Watkinsian (talk) 08:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

File:YoplaitS.jpg
Since you're an admin, I was hoping you could illuminate me as to why this particular image is free of copyright. Kelly hi! 06:54, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


 * If you look at the history of that image and the others, you'll see that I didn't tag them as "no permission". I gave them a non-free license and tagged them as lacking a rationale. Another user keeps going to the images, removing the license, and changing the speedy tag. Kelly  hi! 18:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Buildings and structures completed
Buildings that have a completion date like 1802, should be placed in Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1802 rather then in the more ambiguous and less specific Category:1802 architecture. Most, but not all, of the building categories have been created. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:41, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Demographics section of all city articles
Do you know how the Demographics section of all USA city articles were created? Was it by hand or a bot? I was wondering if anyone was planning to create a bot to update the information with the 2010 info? Likely too big of a wish list item. • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  02:03, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the 2010 US Census link! • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  02:36, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

RE:Seger (Religion)
Hi,

You deleted the article Seger (Religion), just letting you know someone re-created it. I tagged it for WP:G4. Just thought I'd let you know. Bped1985 (talk) 02:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Now lets see if it gets created again.... Bped1985 (talk) 02:33, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, thanks for that, wasn't aware. But now I know!Bped1985 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:35, 8 February 2011 (UTC).

DYK for Samuel Danford Farm
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   06:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Barbara Stanwyck
Hi Nyttend. I'm puzzled by your edit summary, in relation to your removal of a fair-use disputed tag from File:Barbara Stanwyck.jpg.

Commons has 35 free images of Stanwyck; some are of reasonable quality and some are not. The unfree image is from a film Golden Boy which is mentioned in her article only in passing, and the naming of the film is even incidental as the point of the sentence was that it was while making this film that she met her husband. I don't see any reason for keeping this image. Would you take another look at it please, or at least explain to me how you arrived at that decision, so that I can understand. Thanks Rossrs (talk) 14:32, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for responding and deleting it so quickly.  I was mainly concerned because the original uploader (and socks of the original uploader) went through a phase of uploading a whole lot of copyrighted images without any regard for image use policies, but now seems to have stopped.  I didn't want him/her interpreting this as permission to start uploading again.  Thanks again.  Cheers. Rossrs (talk) 14:39, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

G6
I know the shortcut isn't used, because the "What links here" tool does it what it says on the can. I have re-listed it for speedy deletion.-- Jeffro 77 (talk) 15:06, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Seems unlikely that it was used previously but now doesn't appear in a single page in any namespace, but it's a fair enough call I suppose. (Any number of page histories could make references to shortcuts, templates, articles, etc that no longer exist.) I've now lost interest.-- Jeffro 77 (talk) 15:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

File:Oohlincolnlfc.jpg
Can you tell me why this was deleted? Thanks Clavdia chauchat (talk) 19:19, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, what sort of extra elements does it need to stop it being deleted again in future? Clavdia chauchat (talk) 11:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Template:Lycoming County, Pennsylvania
The template according to your version and Watkinsian is incorrect. There are many more communities in Lycoming County that what is included on this list. What is your reasoning for including the four or so that you have and excluding the others? I favor eliminating all the communities that are not incorporated places or CDPs. Dincher (talk) 20:09, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The new 2010 Census results are trickling out and there are several new CDPs in Lycoming County, including Faxon (which used to be a CDP until 1990). So far I can only find the new CDPs on maps - see here. The others (besides Faxon and Garden View) are Oval, Kenmar, and a bit of Rauchtown. I know the standard is that all populated places are notable, but I think including red links in a nav box defeats the purpose of a nav box. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:50, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't like replying on my own talk page, but no point in replying to both of you separately :-) The point of a navigational template is to allow one to go from article to article, not to list every community in a county; for that reason, I don't like having redlinks on a template unless I'm in the middle of writing articles about them.  Throughout the Commonwealth (as in all other US states), we include unincorporated communities; there's no reason to remove Cedar Run from the Lycoming County template but to leave communities such as Fombell on the Beaver County template.  As far as Watkinsian — the whole point of a template is to reflect information on templates, and verifiability for such templates depends on the articles.  Watkinsian continues to add information that's not in sources (and in some cases, goes against the sources on the articles); if s/he found sources and wrote articles, I wouldn't complain, but without any sources the changes are bigtime problematic.  Ruhrfisch, I'm really busy this coming week; could you please put together some stubs (even if they're as short as Orchard Island, Ohio) on the new CDPs that you've found?  Nyttend (talk) 04:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I can make stubs. Thanks for the model article. I first brought this up on the template talk page, then came here when there was no response there. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I am copying and pasting this to the template talk page. It seems to be the right place for it. Dincher (talk) 14:29, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Various promotional pages in User:Alieneks' user space
Sorry for the confusion, but what's the policy on this? These are pretty clearly hoaxes made to look like legitimate wikipedia pages for the sole purpose of promoting this user's personal projects that have little chance of ever being notable. I was under the impression that wasn't allowed, see FAKEARTICLE. Thanks. Kuguar03 (talk) 23:58, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply, just clarifying that there's no other issue here. I'm confused by your opinion that they're not blatantly promotional, but I suppose you're entitled to that opinion. Kuguar03 (talk) 04:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Iowa deletions
Your deletions of unreferenced Iowa census data were in violation of NOCITE. That is, doubtful and non-harmful unreferenced sources should be first tagged with fact and then after a period of time, they can be deleted. All of your Iowa deletions will be reversed.Masebrock (talk) 01:29, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You can go on and delete my county updates for Mississippi, Louisiana, and Virginia as well. Given the choice between badly sourced but almost certainly accurate information vs no information at all, I see you have made your choice. I'm not going to fight it; the rules are on your side. The census numbers are found here http://2010.census.gov/2010census/data/ if you want to go through the tedious process of adding them back again, because I certainly won't.Masebrock (talk) 06:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Hey
No worreis about scaring me, did you know a way to make the page a little tidier though? The footnotes look so ugly down there and I wondered if there were other ways to tidy up. HelperMonkey (talk) 04:53, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

file:Slovenes14.jpg
I don't doubt that he is the author of the collage but there is no source for the individual images please check out this image by the same author where he did provide sources after i tagged the image.file:American_Serbs_x16.gif--IngerAlHaosului (talk) 09:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Time zones
Central Time is correct for Kearney, Nebraska. In southern Nebraska, the dividing line cuts off the westernmost counties; so Dundy, Chase, and Perkins counties are on Mountain Time, and everything to the east is on Central Time.

--Ammodramus (talk) 19:47, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Opportunity to comment on Batavia
There is a discussion starting up at Talk:Batavia (disambiguation), that may be of interest to you. The subject is technically a page move discussion, but the purpose of the discussion is to decide where Batavia should redirect. Until earlier today, Batavia redirected to History of Jakarta, but during this discussion, it is redirecting to Batavia (disambiguation). Your comments and suggestions are welcome.

Thanks for your help. HuskyHuskie (talk) 22:40, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

You are receiving this because you are one of the principal editors of one of the articles that is linked to Batavia (disambiguation). This notice is being posted to all of the top three editors of each of these articles (in terms of total edits), with the following exceptions:
 * editors who are blocked
 * anonymous IP editors
 * editors who, despite ranking in the top three of edits to an article, have only a single edit to said article. This is an attempt to be a neutrally-phrased posting in keeping with the principles of WP:CANVASS. If you find anything in the wording or the manner posted to be a violation of that guideline, please notify me at my talk page.

Did you know?
Nyttend:

Thank you very much for that. I'm really honored, and I'm sure Coco (as he was known) is smiling down at us.

All the best, Sherlock4000 (talk) 02:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

List of Rural banks in Ghana
The page entirely consists of redlinked banks that don't have a chance of ever becoming articles. My thinking was that list articles are dependent on the pages being listed, and that if none of those pages exist it's useless. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 06:47, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That's reasonable. I'll start a discussion at WT:CSD about this sort of scenario; in the meantime, I'll PROD the article now.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 18:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Opinions Needed
Would you mind going to Articles for deletion/Abbotts Mill, Delaware and commenting with your opinion on the deletion I proposed? As a past contributor to articles for deletion in Delaware, I thought you may have knowledge whether Abbotts Mill, Delaware is a community or not. Thanks. Superman7515 (talk) 19:52, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello! Your submission of Jorge Romero Brest at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! MBelgrano (talk) 03:06, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

2010 Populations
Hey, a source for the populations is here. I'd add them to the ones you (rightly) reverted, but headed to bed, so I will add them later if you don't get to them. :) C T J F 8 3  13:16, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Barnesville Petroglyph
Thanks for brightening February on DYK Victuallers (talk) 06:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

File:Old Library WCU of PA.JPG
I thought you might be interested in this Old Library at West Chester University of Pennsylvania in an NRHP HD. the inscription over the door between the columns read "The true university is a collection of books." Smallbones (talk) 06:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of LoDaisKa Site
Hello! Your submission of LoDaisKa Site at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Kieran (talk) 21:38, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for North Church (Portsmouth, New Hampshire)
Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Crawford Library
Thanks for this contribution to Wikipedia Victuallers (talk) 18:04, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of irrelevant Fats Waller albums
Okay, not a speedy deletion if you object. Can you tell the tag to place for a proposed, non-speedy deletion please? I have no problem with a discussion first. Thanks.  Smokey TheCat  21:15, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Jorge Romero Brest
Thanks for this contribution to Wikipedia SmartSE (talk) 00:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

File:Waldo McBurney.jpg listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Waldo McBurney.jpg, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. B (talk) 04:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Yes, it's taken almost a year and a half to finish 1 part of the Chester County trilogy. I did get up to 1003 sites photographed, but my user box won't go up that high! Smallbones (talk) 05:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Violin Sonata (Franck)
The DYK project (nominate) 06:04, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Hanover Township, Columbiana County, Ohio
I understand your concerns with having Wikipedia turn into a new stand, but my family owns the farm that the explosion went off on, so when something happens around here that makes national news I believe that it should have some worth while on Wikipedia. I also had this in mind when i edited the Hanoverton, Ohio page when Senator John McCain visited on his campaign. Not only do I edits on these two pages but, I also do edits on United Local High School as this is the high school that I currently attend and know much about. Back to the topic at hand, I am up to working with you to make this paragraph as well as the entire Hanover Township article more informed for the people. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeke83 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I will take a look at it - pretty busy IRL, so might take me several hours. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:05, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I found lots of relaible sources on this - posted a bit on Talk:Hanover Township, Columbiana County, Ohio. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK
You probably won't believe it, but I was about to nominate Environmental issues in Russia for a DYK just now and saw that you nominated it..and used almost exactly the same hook as I was going to use! Thanks for nominating it. ;) --Slon02 (talk) 04:11, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for LoDaisKa Site
The DYK project (nominate) 06:11, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK
Thanks for your DYK comments. And yes, there were many gaps in the Christology articles - there was no Christology template as of a month or two ago, etc. I was surprised too. The only one that remains to be cleaned up is Threefold office and I will do that in a week or two, then we should be in somewhat stable and well referenced form in Christology. But still huge, huge gaps exist on theological and factual issues within many articles relating to the Bible, life of Jesus, etc. But one page at a time I guess. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 18:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Edward L. Kessel
Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Curious why our Wikipedia page was deleted
Nyttend, I am curious why you deleted the article IDrive (Software). IDrive is software released in 2007 by Pro Softnet, a reputable software company that's been in business since 1999.

Thanks in advance for your reply, --Stephenpsc (talk) 11:48 AM, 24 February 2011 (PST)

Pjarties
Nyttend you are a BIG Pjarty Pooper! Pjarty is not a copy or duplicate of the word Party. Obviously your English language skills are not up to scratch, if you read and understood what Pjarty meant you would realise that it is a form of party. A Pjarty is a pyjama party formed together as a Pjarty. I would ask you in the future to open your mind and broaden your form of parties to a pjarty and um GET A LIFE. Wikipdeia is the Free Encyclopedia not 'i am a Pjarty Pooper so i will delete pages which i dont know anything about'

Hope you dont get a Pjarty Hangover — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pjartynator (talk • contribs) 21:23, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Template:McKinley County, New Mexico
See comment at Template talk:McKinley County, New Mexico. --Bejnar (talk) 16:04, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Lucas, Wisconsin
Hi-A few days ago I revert an anon editor who removed coordinates for the town of Lucas, Wisconsin claiming it was just forest. Today, I got a comment from this anon editor along with a aerial photo of Lucas that has Lucas, Wisconsin located in a forest....sigh....Sometimes, I get burnt out with Wikipedia and this is a good example. I hope you are well.RFD (talk) 14:27, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Khaldoun webster speedy deleted has been recreated
FYI - Khaldoun webster which you recently deleted as Khaldoun Webster has been recreated by the same user. I tagged it again, but I suspect a stubborn vandal/troll. --Quartermaster (talk) 17:24, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

False redirect
Your redirect is false. Do not mix the Parish with the Roman Catholic church. Examples: Category:Roman Catholic churches in Connecticut and Category:Roman Catholic parishes in Connecticut. I don't mind if you leave as Holy Rosary Parish ((disambiguation) pages and list all of them.--WlaKom (talk) 17:42, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

"we" means who? As you see, we have separate categories throughout the whole Wikipedia.

BTW. We discussed this issue for the last 3 months on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Catholicism. --WlaKom (talk) 17:52, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

"We" is the English Wikipedia aside from you - could you show me link to the English Wikipedia rules where parish=church?

Don't cite your own edits as consensus - it is not mine, its Roman Catholic Church rules, so I am only messenger.

Separate articles are not needed, and nor are separate categories - you force your own rules as the English Wikipedia.

Are you going to merge all articles about City and City Hall? It is exactly the same issue. City is the territory and City Hall is the building. --WlaKom (talk) 18:16, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Swan's Landing Archeological Site
Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Cass County Courthouse (Iowa)
Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Beam Farm Woodland Archaeological District
Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Scarlet Oaks
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

How are beauty queen's notable?
I thought last year you told me that Miss Kansas winners are considered not notable enough to list in city articles. If that is true, then why do I find numerous non-notable people with articles? See Rachel Saunders, Bethany_Gerber, Cara_Gorges, Ashley_Aull, Lisa_Forbes, and more at Miss Kansas USA and Miss Kansas Teen USA, and likely a bunch more in other states. Someone needs to review non-notable beauty queens. • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  03:26, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Built in Nebraska in (year)
I see that you're going through the Commons categories for Nebraska buildings and replacing "Category:Built in the United States in (year)" with "Category:Built in Nebraska in (year)".

Is this something you'd like help with? If so, and if there's a useful way to split the work, let me know.

--Ammodramus (talk) 03:28, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Will work on that. Unfortunately, in the last hour or so I've found a new problem to deal with.  Back in December and January, Commons:User:AnRo0002 decided to start recategorizing Commons:Category:Bridges in Nebraska; then he apparently got bored with that, and is now recategorizing German paintings.  I am, frankly, somewhat miffed&mdash;and I apologize for venting at you, but my German is much too weak to unload on the real culprit.  Anyhow: will be working on straightening out that mess, and in the course of so doing will include Category:Built in Nebraska in (year).  If you run into any Nebraska bridges in the course of your efforts, you might leave them for me, since I'll have to go through the entire category bridge by bridge anyhow.  Once I'm done with the bridges, I'll try to help out with the Nebraska buildings.


 * --Ammodramus (talk) 04:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Have worked through all of the "(decade) architecture in Nebraska" categories, and think I've taken care of them all. That's 2% less work for you...  Ammodramus (talk) 23:55, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

File:Ricardo Rossello.jpg
FYI, I have deleted File:Ricardo Rossello.jpg under WP:CSD #F11, although you de-tagged it the other day. Your argument that the external web copy at was of smaller resolution does not carry weight: that copy is enough to prove that the picture was published, and that somebody connected to that other website has previously claimed copyright on it. Under such circumstances, uploaders here are obliged to provide some demonstration of their authorship, which the uploader did not do. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Suillus salmonicolor
The DYK project (nominate) 18:05, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Image rescues
Thanks for rescuing Can you similiarly save Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 22:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC) Also Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 22:33, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * File:PenalColony.jpg
 * File:KafkaCompleteStories.jpg
 * File:DescriptionOfAStruggle.jpg
 * File:ChamberMusicJoyce.jpg
 * File:DearestFather.jpg ?
 * File:WeddingPreparations.jpg ?

Talkback
Armbrust WrestleMania XXVII Undertaker 19–0 22:42, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Commons:Village_pump#Commons_not_working_with_IE.2C_again
commons:Commons:Village_pump Cheers --Saibo ( Δ ) 23:46, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

PocketBook eReader
Hi. Is there a notability guideline for electronic items, such as PocketBook eReader, see its discusion section. The article needs cleanup, but that is another issues past the current firestorm. Thanks in advance for feedback. • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  09:00, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Runkle
That "citation" is not a reliable source in Benjamin Piatt Runkle. Arlington.net is an unofficial website not associated with the authorities that actually run Arlington National Cemetery -- see their home page. I have written them with the facts...which are rather well represented in what they write in the paragraphs below but their title of that page does not agree with what they wrote. They conflict themselves. In their text, they never ascribe him into being a Major General of the U.S. Army only of US Volunteers (and that was a brevetted, i.e. an honorary, title for that). I have left it pending that they may change it...if not, I will be removing it altogether. Take a look at what they wrote and compare it to the title...looks like a webmaster's mistake. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 14:41, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Bloomington, Indiana National Register of Historic Places articles
Do you have any additional NHRP articles in process for Bloomington, IN or are you planning to do any in the future? I will like to do the Courthouse Square HD and the Univerity Courts HD, but do not want to duplicate effort. Wicoulte (talk) 17:21, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Lockington Locks
Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Immaculate Conception Catholic Church (Celina, Ohio)
The article Immaculate Conception Catholic Church (Celina, Ohio) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Immaculate Conception Catholic Church (Celina, Ohio) for things which need to be addressed. SMasters (talk) 09:03, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

iPad 1
Could you please restore iPad (original). iPad 2 to be announced momentary. Marcus Qwertyus   18:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

File:Rosebud Benitez 3.jpg
You are not in a position to "decline" anything, because I didn't request anything. I am myself an administrator and can handle this just fine. I notified the uploader, and the notification stands, no matter whether the tag stays on the page or not (although, unfortunately, removing it sends entirely the wrong signal to her). The uploader needs to provide OTRS confirmation, and if she doesn't, the image goes out, no matter through what process, period. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, and questions
Hi... Thanks for the links and comments to Clarkson, Ohio - much appreciated. Largely on the basis of your comment, I have written (almost) an article on Gaston's Mill-Lock No. 36, Sandy and Beaver Canal District

I ask you, because you have done quite a lot of work in this area.

1. The name - certainly unwieldy. Is it appropriate to have the article title as simply, Gaston's Mill? That's not how it is in the NRHP, but common usage is for Gaston's Mill. I suspect most will search for Gaston's Mill. What is your take on that?

2. Why is this place in the NRHP? I can find nothing online that speaks to the reasons why this place was included. MANY sources that say that it is, but I want to find something that says, "Gaston's Mill was added to the NRHP because..... ". Should I be looking for that at all? Is there a resource that you could suggest to help there? The NPS site is sadly lacking.

I appreciate any help you can give as I attempt this article. I'd also appreciate any help or guidance on the article itself (still in VERY early stages!): Gaston's Mill-Lock 36, Sandy and Beaver Canal District

Thanks!  Wikipelli   Talk   23:26, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

User:WillGoss2
Hi, I know the page was vandalized by the IP, but the user did create it as an attack page. You reverted it back to the user's attack rather than the IP's attack, so I am re-tagging it as an attack page. (Currently, it has claims about "xxxx had a hard life with many STDs".) Reaper Eternal (talk) 02:44, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

10,000 Edits
I finally crossed the 10,000 edit mark in 8.5 months since I first started. Free beer for all of Wikipedia, oh maybe not. Thanks for all the help! • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  12:35, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Removing Article
Hi, i'm trying to rename an article but it already exists. Could you please remove Bankia article so the other could be renamed without copy pasting and keeping all its historials? Thanks. Tearpop (talk) 13:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

--> Answer: The problem is that Bankia Group isn't really the name of the corporation. Its current name is Bankia so i'm trying to move it to Bankia but it already exists...could you please remove the page so i could move it? or if you could move it directly i would apreciate ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tearpop (talk • contribs) 13:17, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Monaco ?
Not sounding unrealistic at all? The "co-wroter" of the song died in 1888. Mb731 (talk) 13:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It is in the article: "The internal selection held by TMC has chosen Cole.[1]as their representative with his co-self penned song 'I want to hold you' written with John Bosco, in the forthcoming Eurovision Song Contest to be held in Germany in May." It's just a stupid joke of someone from www.escforum.net . Mb731 (talk) 13:45, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * At the Song Contest only new songs can compete, not something written in the 1880s and there's no way they would let in a country in March when the deadline to apply was in December. Also there wasnt a single source in the artcile. I cannot believe it's easier to write such made-up nonsense on Wikipedia than making it deleted. Mb731 (talk) 13:52, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for that, I dont have experience in it, so I didnt know which template to use, but the article was a complete nonsense. Mb731 (talk) 13:55, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

2010 Census data for Iowa
You reverted 100's of edits from many different editors in their attempts to update the various counties in Iowa with the new 2010 census data. You cited many different reasons, many were valid in my opionion. I was personally frustrated trying to use the US Census Factfinder website, therefore I waited for a more easy to use source was available. I came across a reference source from the state of Iowa at Iowa Data Center that has all the census data from 1850-2010 in a PDF or XLS format. It is easy to use and concise and I want to use as a one stop reference source for all the TOTAL Populations (not demographic breakdowns) in the info box, population tables and lede paragraphs. Before I start doing the 99 counties of Iowa I want your acknowledgement of the legitimacy of the reference (since it is a state of Iowa source and not the US Census Bureau). I do not want my edits reverted after changing the data in 3 article locations in the 99 counties in Iowa, as you have previously done to other editors. I prefer not having fractured conversations, I will watch your talk page for the duration of this discussion. Please respond here. -- Rife Ideas  Talk  14:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I took me a large number of tries to get this Census counts for the counties. Originally I thought it was only for Kansas, but later after pasting it in another browser, I noticed that it is for all counties in USA, and you have to click on a pull-down to choose the state.  I've already been updating some of the counties in Kansas using this link as a reference.  I may have to go back later and paste in a better URL.
 * http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=DEC_10_PL_GCTPL2.ST05&prodType=table
 * • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  18:18, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest that you go with Sbmeirow's idea — we can assume that the State Data Center is correctly reporting results from the Census Bureau, but it's always better to get results directly from them if possible. Nyttend (talk) 05:57, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I looked at the link that Sbemeirow provided and while it does have the county census data for the year 2010 it does not have the data for 1850–2000. I again ask you Nyttend about using the "one stop reference" (Iowa Data Center) that I sited above (please check it out). Previously you have reverted edits even when an editor used a valid US Census source as a reference, because when they added 2010 census data they replaced the previously stated reference for the years 2000 and earlier (granted the new reference only covered 2010 and not the previous years). In fact – have you even looked at the references that have been stated in the Historical population tables? I just went and looked at your last 5 reverted Iowa county edits (March 4) Pottawattamie County, Iowa, Dallas County, Iowa, Warren County, Iowa, Johnson County, Iowa, Black Hawk County, Iowa, and all 5 have referencing problems previous to the 2010 census, none of the 5 cover the years with 100% referencing. Please look at what is provided as a reference in these 5 counties and comment here. Also if you are not going to accept the source I prefer to use, please do the research and provide me with a proper reference (or set of references). I am willing to add to Wikipedia the correct information with the correct references for Iowa's 99 counties instead of just seeing this continuation of reverted edits (I patrol all of Iowa communities) to various other editors just trying to update their own area of interest. And after the counties there is the 900+ cities in Iowa with similar reference problems to the Population tables, so please provide me with the same request for a reference or set of references for those cities (the state of Iowa source I want to use has these covered). My Wikipedia philosophy is to improve and/or correct flawed edits instead of just reverting them. Thanks in advance for your time. As before I will watch your talk page for the duration of this discussion. Please respond here. -- Rife Ideas   Talk  14:07, 5 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I see from your contributions log you have been editing in Wikipedia 4 times since my last post (above). I therefore can only assume that you choose not to respond to my questions. I will be using the Iowa Data Center as a reference to update the 2010 Census figures in Iowa. -- Rife Ideas  Talk  22:04, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Kindly assume good faith: there's actually a different reason that I didn't respond to you. I've not checked the references in most of the previous versions of the articles: fixing problems that are already present is distinct from removing newly-added problems, and I often can't concentrate enough time to be able to research which articles already have proper sourcing.  Per your rather pointy comment: it's best to repair bad edits when possible, but reverting is better than nothing, and I saw no indication that repairs were forthcoming.  We are here to produce a proper encyclopedia with valid sourcing, and because the addition of information that's not in a source is either very shoddy work or outright deceit, it never has a place in any serious writing.  Now to your question — I'd suggest that you use both citations.  It's impossible for any source to be superior to Sbmeirow's for the present census, but I don't dispute your position that the Iowa Data Center information is the best available resource for past years.  Nyttend (talk) 22:47, 6 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay – It is more work to use 2 resources when 1 covers both but I agree the US Census Bureau is the most reputable source. I updated Adair County, Iowa in three areas, lede sentence, info box, and Demographics section. Please take a look and give me your feedback. I especially am interested in your opinion of my use of using the footnotes feature in the infobox as the template does not seem to allow for a reference to be included with the population statistic. if you are okay with this Adair example I will work on the next 98 counties using the same format and replacing any previous edits that used other sources like newspapers and such as their web pages may become unavailable in the future. As before I will watch your talk page for the duration of this discussion. -- Rife Ideas  Talk  00:34, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I would definitely put the 2010 population first. Not sure you need to mention 2000, but if you do, I'd put "the 2010 population is X up/down # from 2000"...I also find it odd there is no reference section for the demographics box, and only a footnote section. Curious Rife, why do you spell it "lede" if you are from Iowa? C T J F 8 3  00:57, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

In response to my wording in the lede sentence, I was trying to find a copy and paste wording option that all I had to change was the numbers. But this is a work in progress and I am open to suggestions as long as the work is not complicated (like having to calculate pop differences, besides 99 counties there is 900+ cities to do). I am inclined to think that the change from 2000 to 2010 is important (shows growth or decline). Do you have a copy and paste option in mind? I am confused when you ask about the "reference section for the demographics box" as I was talking about the Infobox U.S. County not allowing me to add a reference next to the population statistic. The footnote box on the bottom (of the infobox) does not show up unless activated by adding information to the parameter. I thought about not putting a reference for the infobox population statistic because it is referenced in the main article but I do not want my edits to be deleted because they are not sourced. Also I am a believer in sourcing all facts. As to my usage of "lede" vs lead it is just more international. -- Rife Ideas  Talk  01:38, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you want to move this to your talk page, so we don't bug Nyttend? I guess with all those articles, like you said, you may not want to do math of population differences along with copy and pasting. If you want something simple. "As of the 2010 United States Census, the population was #"...that is simple and easy. C T J F 8 3  22:10, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Moving to my talk page is fine Ctjf. . . Just an update – After I did my initial editing on Adair County, Iowa Nyttend came behind and added his improvements, taking in my desire for a copy and paste system (I assume). I liked what he did so after a small tweak I started in on the counties and got through the "A's" before I realized that the population densities would be changing also. Therefore I had to go back and adjust all my previous edits. If you go to Benton County, Iowa you can see the total changes I am making with one edit. besides adding info and calculating the pop density I am moving the 2000 pyramid so it is in the 2000 subsection. -- Rife Ideas  Talk  00:19, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad you found it useful. I hesitated to recommend it to you lest you think I was trying to force you to adopt a specific pattern.  You're correct: I was afraid that you'd find this too difficult to use with a copy-paste setup.  Nyttend (talk) 01:41, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps Nyttend won't mind if we bug him here....those edits look great, Rife. C T J F 8 3  13:47, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

French Directory
Please see Talk:French_Directory. -- Klein zach  00:07, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Environmental issues in Russia
Materialscientist (talk) 10:05, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: User talk:Puppykicker514
Having been banned for three and a half years and making this edit, it seemed highly unlikely that the user (whose talk page was deleted in October 2007 already) was asking for an unblock. I couldn't see the point in keeping this image created solely with numerals. What do you think? Jared Preston (talk) 21:17, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I wasn't that bothered about it. Somebody else can do that. Thanks for your time and happy editing! Jared Preston (talk) 21:20, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Ety Habitation Site
I too thought the article Ety Habitation Site may be deserving of a Start class rating. Just to be clear on the history, you created the original article but neglected to create the talk page. Another editor created the talk page with a Stub classification. You then removed that editors Stub class rating on this article and replaced it with an unrated classification, he/she reinstated the Stub Classification and you again changed the classification to unrated. In my opinion the article at least deserved a Stub rating, that is why I undid your edit and returned the classification to Stub. You then deleted my edit and returned the classification to unrated (your third time). I now see you changed your mind and upgraded the classification to Start, which probably was what it should of been rated at from the beginning. In the interest of full discloser I did not look at the History in depth when I first undid your edit, it was only after starting this post that I looked closely and then discovered it was an article you had created. I therefore wonder why you had not upgraded the original Stub classification to Start right from the beginning? -- Rife Ideas  Talk  16:31, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey sorry. Randomly browsed to here after a recent conversation at WT:NRHP. I see that I was the one that repeatedly assessed the article as a stub. This has happened before, Nyttend. As I said before, I usually just go through unassessed articles and rate them, not aware that I may have been there before. Like I've said before, if I rate the same article more than once and you don't like it, drop a note at my talk page alerting me of the situation. If not, it may take me several times to realize that I've rated the article before. Sorry about the mix-up.--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 20:30, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Edgemont, NY [Greenville CDP]
It was agreed by all prior to your movement of this page: Greenville, Westchester County, New York

that the renaming of the page to Edgemont, New York, was approved because Greenville is a purely statistical name for the area and a neighborhood taking up half of the area of Edgemont [which is defined by the areas served by the Greenville Fire Department and the Edgemont Union Free School District]. Renaming the page for Edgemont which has the neighborhoods Greenville, Seely Place, Old Edgemont, the Cotswolds and more to simply Greenville will confuse almost all. Adding into the article that the area is officially the CDP of Greenville but always called edgemont is satisfactory. Zfalk (talk) 02:52, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Peter Young (jewelery designer)
Hi, the Peter Young page has been re-nominated for deletion. Seeing as you were the one that removed the initial deletion tag, would you mind going to the AfD talk page and voicing your opinion? Jpjaegerc5 (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

2010 Census Changes For Cities
I decided to write up a quick article to guide other authors on updating the 2010 Census for city articles in Kansas. This is the approach that I'm going to take for modifying articles. This is considered a live user article, so likely I will change it as I find errors and get feedback. Obviously, everyone can do whatever they want, but hopefully they will take my changes into account. • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  02:08, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sbmeirow/RecommendedChangesToArticlesFor2010Census

Cobb County Template
Hi, me and other editors think it is completely unfair that you think you have the final say in all template decisions. Myself and other Atlanta area editors think East Cobb should be on there and we are starting a discussion about it on the template talk page. Any edit you make before the discussion concludes will be undone. Thanks. --Mmann1988 (talk) 22:48, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Survivor: Slovak Republic
I'm not quite sure how you say this isn't web content when the article itself says "It aired in the same year on Proboards"? ProBoards is a forum provider... Strange Passerby (talk • contribs • Editor review) 05:05, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Reality television which doesn't actually air on TV? The infobox is misleading. The original idea was from reality television but this isn't a professional production that airs in any country. Strange Passerby (talk • contribs • Editor review) 05:11, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * See, I understand the text differently from you — "The show began playing on February 6, 2011. It aired in the same year on Proboards" sounds to me like "It began airing on February 6, 2011, and in the same year it was also shown on Proboards" — if I understand it rightly, that statement reinforces the idea that it's not just web content. Nyttend (talk) 05:15, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * We'll agree to disagree, clearly we are reading this differently. I've AFD'd it. Strange Passerby (talk • contribs • Editor review) 05:19, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

hm...
This said "me", "my mother," "my father,".... All the same person's family members. Ah well... PRODed. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 06:26, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I went to bed shortly after this; it's been deletd. FWIW, created Nabahat Khan, a vanity article that still exists as his userpage; the disambiguation "Nabahat Khan (disambiguation)" linked to him, and also listed his father, his mother, his family, and his brother. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 12:39, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Immaculate Conception Catholic Church (Celina, Ohio)
The article Immaculate Conception Catholic Church (Celina, Ohio) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Immaculate Conception Catholic Church (Celina, Ohio) for eventual comments about the article. Well done! SMasters (talk) 09:58, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Why did you delete my article?
Re your message: I deleted Nabahat Khan (disambiguation) because it was essentially empty as it was full of non-notable individuals. One of the individuals listed was deleted at Nabahat Khan. You are welcome to restore restore either if you think the deletion was incorrect. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:24, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Possible DYK: McCook Daily Gazette
Just launched an article on the McCook Daily Gazette in southeastern Nebraska.

There's an aspect of the paper's history that might make DYK fodder. For about ten months in 1929-30, the Gazette managed same-day delivery in outlying towns by dropping bundles of newspapers from an airplane to local carriers on the ground. This was apparently the first regular delivery of newspapers by air.

If you've got the time and inclination, could you look at the article and give me your opinion? I'm somewhat loath to DYK my own article.

If you're busy with other things, or generally disinclined to do this, please feel free to ignore this request. I've asked lots of other favors of you, and don't want to strain your forbearance&mdash;

Ammodramus (talk) 23:00, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Re filemove G6 declines
The fact that an image (say ) has had a bad name for five years is irrelevant, it's still a bad name. DSC###### style names are the names generated by digital cameras, they are not descriptive, make searching for useful things very difficult, and quite bluntly, they all need to be renamed and have their titles salted. Please stop declining CSD G6s on the redirects left over from when files are moved from utterly useless to more useful names. Thank you,  S ven M anguard  Wha?  05:55, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

User:Omrigilan/IZW
hey, can i ask when this page will be taken down? i have recently written an official article as the user article written was a draft and it looks bad with that page coming up on google when i've now written an official one (Ian Zachary Whittingham) thanks Omrigilan (talk) 20:06, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Ah yes but the page is still displayed in search engines(google) and whatnot, i was just wondering when its completely gone for good and i have a new article "Ian Zachary Whittingham" any chance you can give me an idea when it will be coming up in search engines? thanks Omrigilan (talk) 13:29, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Nimrud Ivories
Materialscientist (talk) 08:02, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

2011 First Flight High School protests and walkouts
I urge you to reconsider declining speedy deletion of 2011 First Flight High School protests and walkouts. The lack of coverage does indicate a lack of existence. Isn't more likely that a walkout of the magnitude claimed would be covered somewhere? Multiple editors have tried to locate references and have not been successful. This isn't a real event that doesn't meet notability guidelines, all signs point to a hoax.--RadioFan (talk) 03:41, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Tudek
I also made a panorama of Tudek site - it is on Commons too. I got a picture of the Nature Preserve that Houserville is in, but have not uploaded it to Commons yet. It is of the marsh and a boardwalk through it, not the knoll (did not have time to hike twoards the knoll). Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 12:47, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Here is the File:MIllbrook Marsh Nature Center.jpg other pic. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 13:40, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks - please move it to Millbrook - I type too fast sometimes and was still holding the shift key for the M when I hit the "i" key. Hopefully I can get a pic of the Houserville Site itself someday. Also have not forgotten my promises to work on Penns Cave or the Ohio liabrary. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:08, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Scott Statue
Hi Nyttend, thanks for the review of Scott Statue. I've provided an ALT1 based on a photo; would you mind having another look?  Schwede 66  17:59, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Reverts
Can I know why you are reverting my edits on the image pages File:Marsh Deer.JPG and File:Tayra.JPG. Do you think the files are not eligible for deletion because a copy of them do not exist in commons? I am an OTRS volunteer and both the files have all permissions set in Commons. The English Wikipedia version can be removed. --Sreejith K (talk) 06:28, 21 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Now that you know that the exact copies of the files are available in commons, why not deleting it? --Sreejith K (talk) 12:13, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Christian Laurin Deletion
Hello Nyttend,

I think you removed a speedy delition on my Christian Laurin article...thank you. But my article is once again about to be deleted...there is actually a discussion going on at the moment to decide whether or not it should be deleted. In the meantime i've added numerous references to support my article. Im not to sure how to make my case any better. Your advise would be greatly apreciated. Thank you kindly Rutabagan (talk) 22:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Root Covered Bridge
 NW  ( Talk ) 00:04, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Naming conventions for archeo sites
Would you happen to know the naming conventions for archaeological sites? There has been an argument going on here Old Town (Franklin, Tennessee) for close to a year about how to structure this article, since it is actually 3 separate NHRP sites situated very close to each other. One editor wants to lump them all together under the one name, which has to include the qualifier of the nearest town in parentheses to distinguish it from the other places named Old town(26 others in the US alone). The second editor wants to split them all up under their own articles. After watching them occasionally argue for the last 6 or 8 months? year? I've recently suggested it be moved to Old Town Archeological Site, its official name which is currently a redirect. Since locally it is known as "Old Town", editor number one wants to keep it as is per WP:COMMONNAME. Is there any kind of policy or guideline or consensus on this matter that you know of?  He  iro  01:40, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Talkback for stone graves
 He  iro  02:37, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Peabody, Kansas
>>>The population was 1,210 as of the 2010 census, which is identical to its total in 2000.

I'm very confused why you made this statement because the census for Peabody, Kansas in 2000 is not the same as 2010, because 1210 != 1384. See the following links.

2000 census for Peabody was 1384:
 * http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2000/phc-1-18.pdf
 * http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFPopulation?_event=Search&geo_id=01000US&_geoContext=01000US&_street=&_county=Peabody&_cityTown=Peabody&_state=04000US20&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&ActiveGeoDiv=geoSelect&_useEV=&pctxt=fph&pgsl=010&_submenuId=population_0&ds_name=null&_ci_nbr=null&qr_name=null&reg=null%3Anull&_keyword=&_industry=

2010 census for Peabody was 1210:
 * http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=DEC_10_PL_GCTPL2.ST13&prodType=table

• Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  05:20, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for wanting to improve the article. I had to ask because I was very confused by your edit.  We all make mistakes, so no big deal.  •  Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  18:26, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Abe Cohn
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   16:05, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Removal of photo at Jean-Bertrand Aristide
I have to ask if this deletion was done by an administrator who was overseeing the evaluation of the image. There was a process ongoing which requested that I complete a template and give detailed information about the image, and I was given a deadline of March 29 (I believe). I ask that you please restore the deleted image so I can comply with the administrator's request. Ghostofnemo (talk) 07:20, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * In reply to your message on my talk page, there were four "boxes" on the photo details page. The first was an administrator questioning the photo, the second was my appeal, the third box was the administrator's reply, providing a template for me to fill out asking for more information about the image, and giving me a deadline of March 29th (I think). The fourth box was my original designation of the photo as a promotional photograph (a press kit/official photo of then-President Aristide. Is there any way to restore all that information so the process can move forward? Ghostofnemo (talk)
 * There was an evaluation of the photo in process, but the process was cut short by your deletion. I don't have the template to obtain the requested information now, because that was deleted, too. Ghostofnemo (talk) 04:24, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for File:Roy Clarke.jpg
An editor has asked for a of File:Roy Clarke.jpg. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 81.23.57.177 (talk) 01:00, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

File:My Life As Me by Barry Humphries.jpg
Can I ask why you removed the deletion notice from this image? For what does CSD#F7 exist if not for deleting wholly unwarranted images such as this? If you disagree that it is unwarranted, could you please explain why it is so important that we see an image of this book cover? If you agree that it is unwarranted, can you ask why you feel it needs to exist for another week before it can be deleted? J Milburn (talk) 20:51, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course there's something wrong with the rationale- it's nonsense. You can't just add some vague assertions to an image and say "look- it has a rationale!" Again- For what does CSD#F7 exist if not for deleting wholly unwarranted images such as this? If you disagree that it is unwarranted, could you please explain why it is so important that we see an image of this book cover? If you agree that it is unwarranted, can you ask why you feel it needs to exist for another week before it can be deleted? J Milburn (talk) 09:19, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * FPAS has replied to your comment on my page, and I agree with what he has said- this rationale clearly is bogus. I'll analyse it line-by-line if you really want me to. And no, you still haven't told me. For what does CSD#F7 exist if not for deleting wholly unwarranted images such as this? And do you agree that it is unwarranted? If you do, why are you forcing bureaucracy, and if you don't, then, quite simply, how? J Milburn (talk) 17:42, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * As myself and FPAS have said, there is everything wrong with the rationale. It is essential that a rationale expands on how an image is irreplaceable, what it is showing, and why that needs to be shown. The rationale asserts that "It illustrates a significant aspect of the subject, namely, his true self." Presumably, this means that the image is intended to show a portrait of the person. Well, in that case, it clearly fails NFCC#1, as not only is it replaceable with free media, but it is already replaced by free media. If we give it the benefit of the doubt, and assume it is here to illustrate the book cover (in which case it would clearly be irreplaceable) then the question arises as to what that actually adds to the article, and the rationale certainly doesn't explain that. This was my original objection- it doesn't say, and, looking at the article, it seems pretty clear it doesn't add anything. If this isn't one of "the most obvious cases" of something that should be deleted under CSD#F7, I don't know what is. " Invalid fair-use claims tagged with may be deleted seven days after they are tagged, if a full and valid fair-use use rationale is not added. " As I have explained, this is clearly invalid (all you have done in its defence is assert the opposite...) and a "full and valid" rationale has not been added. To repeat, this should have been deleted, even if we're playing the "rules and bureaucracy" game. J Milburn (talk) 18:54, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Again, FPAS has replied on my talk page if you are interested. J Milburn (talk) 19:01, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Wait, so your concern is that I used the wrong template? And, if you explained to me why the image was needed, and added a "full and valid rationale" to the image page, I'm sorry, but I must have missed it. J Milburn (talk) 19:15, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for trying to save my image
Thanks for trying to save my image. Surely there is some appropriate licence or rationale for using that partial chronology screenshot I made for my homepage, do you know which one I should use? Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 13:38, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Sonic recolor
hello ,

please explain me why you removed the speedy deletion tag, as I think it is a blatant nonsense; the first section "How to Make a recolor:" is an instruction, the second "What People think of Recolors" is a personal opinion and "Bludshot the Hedgehog" is nonsense. What tag should I use, in your opinion. Regards.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T  19:17, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for James Dunne O'Connell
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   08:04, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for First Unitarian Church (Cincinnati, Ohio)
Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Personal income not part of economy?
Back in the old days, the bots dropped personal income into "demographics" for want of a better place to put it. The census bureau had collected it. Why not? Then we started moving this into "Economy" since it formed, in most places, a major part of the economic life of the community. USER:Wiki.Tango.Foxtrot, reviewing San Diego for GA, didn't like that and suggested it be moved, which the editors did. I did not think it wise to confront him on the article discussion page, unwilling to mess up other editors attempts at GA. But I did question him on his talk page and did not get an answer. Can you help or suggest help? My problem is that once these sections start showing up in FA articles, it becomes a stylist method of doing things and is hard to change. We've been doing this for several years now. It makes sense IMO. As a demographic, it seems lost and irrelevant. Student7 (talk) 13:33, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Intraguild predation
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

No deletion?
I'm curious as to the inconsistency regarding the Talk:Indian caste system/archivex redirects. Lifebaka seemed to think №1 and №2 were eligible and deleted them as such, you did not think №3 was. Ironically №3 was the one redirect that I thought would go through without a hitch since it was the only one that didn't have anything linking to it whatsoever. Am I missing something here? Was Lifebaka in error? –Xoid 16:25, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. Does Wikipedia explicitly leave them around? I get the impression from your reply that they might be eligible for regular deletion. I'm surprised really, from prior visits here I had the impression that deletions like this were commonplace. –Xoid 17:01, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Heritage Brewing
"If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding "hang on" to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag;" What is the point of the hang on tag is you delete the page before anyone gets to comment.

The [:Heritage Brewing]] page you deleted can not be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person because the company no longer exists. The article was written to start documenting the history of a local company that existed in a community that was at the forefront of the resurgence of people paying attention to local food and breweries and at the same time rejecting the control and influence of big corporations and other large centralized organization who spout the old ways. This article is no more an article about a company, corporation, organization, or group, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject than any article in categories Category:Canadian brewing companies, Category:Beer and breweries in Canada, etc. Quit freaking out and pissing off editors by proposing everything be deleted. Mr.Badlands (talk) 03:36, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Naming convention for Pennsylvania townships
Where is this guide? I am not sure why the county is used in the names when there is no other township to disambiguate with the same name. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 04:39, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

FYI
An article you previously deleted under CSD:A7, Chris Howson, was recently re-created. As I do not have access to previous deleted versions of this article, if you could take a look at it and see if it represents a substantial re-creation of that version that would be great. Thanks Hasteur (talk) 21:46, 31 March 2011 (UTC)