User talk:OKO

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Edits to Stephen Barrett
Dear OKO: Because of POV warring on the Stephen Barrett article, I'm hereby banning you from editing the article. Please feel free to edit elsewhere on Wikipedia, but should you make any edits to this article your edits will be reverted, and ultimately you may be banned from editing on Wikipedia. This is your last warning. The next time you violate Wikipedia's NPOV rule by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

Yours sincerely, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 21:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Stephen Barrett
Dear Nicholas. I am happy to stop editing the article if that is going to allow a balanced article presenting all side of the issues, not only promoting the views of the subject of the article or of organizations that he belongs to or presides. I am the the one who posted the warning on neutral point of view after repeated editing designed to present only one side of the issue have been made by Sarner and others. While I do not think that you are acting like a Wiki terrorist, I do think that an in depth look at the history of editing of this article will show that many attempts have been made to suppress valid information about the activities of Stephen Barrett, probably including edits by Stephen Barrett himself. Warm regards. OKO

Dear Nicholas. By the way your warning to Sarner was simply a copy of your warning to me.... Unlike Sarner I have not been warned before so it does look I have been served the same dose of medicine without the same history of dis-ease :-) Cheerio OKO

Can I expect a reply ? --OKO 10:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Dear OKO: Thank you for your messages, and I apologise for my delay in responding to you. You are right, you had not been warned previously for disruptive editing, so it was incorrect of me to give you the "final warning" template for NPOV; I am very sorry for this oversight, and was in rather a hurry when I implemented the ban. Basically I banned you in addition to Sarner as it appeared you were both engaging in fixated, opposing editing on the article; thus I thought it was fairest for you both to be banned from the article, although it does certainly appear that has a longer history of so doing than yourself. To be honest, I have no way of ascertaining whether or not the edits that have occurred in the past are factual or not, principally because it is not really my place to judge what is true or not - my role as administrator on Wikipedia is to enforce editing standards such as WP:NPOV and No original research, the essence of both of these being that Wikipedia should write about what primary sources have documented in a neutral way, referencing the claims, versus arguing over which interpretation in a conflict is correct or incorrect. My aim in banning you both from the article was merely to try and calm the waters, so to speak, since high-temperature, high-frequency antagonistic editing just makes Wikipedia hell for us all, and I do hope you understand why this was necessary since I could not really let the tit-for-tat war smoulder any longer. Incidentally, any other users editing the article similarly will also be "soft banned", so it is not a case of singling particular sets of editors out. I am most grateful for your cooperation, and I do hope that you will find editing other articles elsewhere on Wikipedia successful. Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 00:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)