User talk:OP-Hag

August 2022
OP-Hag (talk) 09:04, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You know, you say something similar at User talk:Ha6arIs, and I don't fully understand it here or there. You are acknowledging that you created this account (OP-Hag) and Ha6arIs. I got that. OP-Hag is your "personal account", which is meaningless from a Wikipedia perspective, and Ha6arIs was created to declare a WP:COI. The problem is that you did not declare a COI, which, if you read the policy, explains how to do that. Also, you do not need to create two accounts to declare a COI; one is enough. Finally, given your COI, you are not allowed to edit the portal article - or any other related article - directly. You have to suggest changes on the article Talk pages. You can create a draft, provided it doesn't violate Wikipedia's policies in some other way. I'd like you to confirm that my understanding of what you've done is correct; if I've missed something or got something wrong, please tell me. I understand that you deny that Simonsteuer93 is also your account, but is it someone you know?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:39, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes your understanding is correct. Being a new editor I didn't realise that creating a new user to declare the COI was superfluous and also noticed, as you did, that I did not manage to declare the COI correctly. I believe I cannot do this at the moment as my account is blocked :-( but will do so once unblocked. Also yes indeed Simonsteur93 is a colleague. We had a discussion because he was trying to rename and change the description of the older portal but this was rejected whereas I suggested to create a new article because, in my opinion, the scope of the two portals is significantly different.
 * To give a quick reference, the European Data Portal (which now redirect to the new one) can be seen on the web archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20200330094630/https://www.europeandataportal.eu/en while the new portal is publicly accessible at https://data.europa.eu/en. It is one of the biggest open data portal around (more than 1.4 million open datasets). Because there is quite some general confusion regarding the two portals and having a "privileged" position working for the EU Office that manages it and good knowledge of the history and evolution of both, I was hoping to help clarify the issues by submitting the draft article Draft:Data.europa.eu before my accounts were blocked. OP-Hag (talk) 15:03, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That means that Simon also has an undeclared WP:COI. You'll have to give me some time to figure out what's best to do here.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:25, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking the time. I tried to be as factual as possible in the proposed draft. I do understand there is a potential COI here but can reassure that my position allows me to be critical when needed and that the portal is a public service open for free to the public and that no financial or publicity interests can be implied. I will refer to SImonsteuer93 that COI should be declared with regards to both articles. OP-Hag (talk) 16:12, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @Bbb23 - any chance you managed to review this block? Please note that this account is indeed of the same person as @Ha6arIs and so if you decide to maintain the block of @Ha6arIs I would understand, although the two account were not created as sock-puppets but rather due to a misunderstanding on my part. The main issue is that he account which triggered the blocks, namely @Simonsteuer93, belongs to a different person and no sock-puppeting was involved. I would really like to resume work on Draft:Data.europa.eu and am unable to so until you review this block. OP-Hag (talk) 12:28, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi OP-Hag, I'm Girth Summit, and administrator and CheckUser here. asked me to take a look at this case. I'm sure you can understand that using two separate accounts to edit the same Wikipedia article looks a lot like an attempt to deceive other users. I've read through your comments above however, and would be willing to consider your unblock request, but before I do that I'd like to clear up a few details. Above, you say that you are employed by the institution that manages European Data Portal, is that correct? If so, I'd like to understand whether you are editing Wikipedia as a part of your job, or whether you are doing it as a hobby in your spare time. Please just tell me the truth - neither is completely forbidden, but the distinction is important and knowing your situation will allow me to give you accurate advice about how to edit within our guidelines (and how to comply with the |terms terms of use of this website). Thanks  Girth Summit  (blether)  11:29, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Dear @Girth Summit, Thank for taking the time to look at this. Yes I work for the EU body that manages the European open data portal and editing the article is related to my job although I was not requested to update wikipedia by anyone. It was rather my own initiative to edit my colleague's (@Simonsteuer93) entry because I was hoping to give more factual information and avoid appearing self promotional. I used this account when editing while at work and my other account (@Ha6arIs) in my spare time. My two main errors were (1) creating a new account for doing so, and (2) having failed to declare a COI (this was a newbie error because I thought I did but can see this is not declared in either one of my profiles). OP-Hag (talk) 17:56, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, I think that I'd be willing to unblock one of your accounts, provided you undertake to abide by the following:
 * you declare your COI with that article, and any other articles you intend to write about;
 * you stick to one account in future;
 * you use edit requests to propose changes to articles that you have a COI with, rather than make the changes yourself. You are welcome to write up proposed text in your sandbox, and then make a request along the lines of 'please replace the current text (whether that's the whole article, or a paragraph, or whatever) with the text and references in my sandbox'.
 * If you're happy to agree to that, let me know which account (this one or the Ha6arls one) unblocked. Girth Summit  (blether)  11:11, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for understanding. I will make sure to follow the guidelines for future edits and will declare a COI as soon as unblocked. I would prefer using this account (@OP-Hag) and have @Ha6arIs suspended OP-Hag (talk) 10:49, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Dear @Girth Summit - have you had a chance to review the issue? OP-Hag (talk) 16:57, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I forgot to check back in with you - thanks for the ping. I've unblocked the account, and logged your editing restriction (no use of extra accounts, required to abide by the guidance at WP:COI) at WP:RESTRICT. Let me know if anything is unclear. Best Girth Summit  (blether)  18:52, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Data.europa.eu (January 28)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

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Robert McClenon (talk) 20:12, 28 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Dear @Robert McClenon,
 * Thank you for reviewing the article. The point you raise is exactly what I was hoping to clarify: The European Data Portal was the predecessor of the data.europa.eu portal. In fact, the European data portal Wikipedia article was initially renamed "data.europa.eu" but this was not exact because the two portals are not the same - the former (cfr. https://wayback.archive-it.org/12090/20200415073431/https://www.europeandataportal.eu/en) only published national data portal while data.europa.eu also includes official EU data.
 * I would be grateful if you would reconsider accepting the submission and am available to provide additional information. OP-Hag (talk) 21:51, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * User:OP-Hag - It appears to me that there should be one article. What its name should be can be discussed at the article talk page, although I think that a name that is in English rather than a domain name is preferred.  The article should be expanded to include the additional information.  If you think that two articles are in order, that can be discussed at the talk page, Talk:European Data Portal.  I hope that this is understandable.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:09, 29 January 2023 (UTC)