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Hustlers Convention
The history of the page Hustlers Convention contains two completely different articles - the one that was recently un-deleted and the one you created. I have requested that your edits be moved to Hustlers Convention (Lightnin' Rod album), after which time I will need to do some cleanup. Please avoid editing the article until it is moved and I have removed the "inuse" template. Both articles should be cleaned up and available for editing within a day or two, possibly much sooner.

As a general rule, if you want to write about a topic and an article with the name you want to use already exists, create a new page with either a different form of the name or with some "distinguisher" in parenthesis after it. Then put a hatnote on the top of both pages pointing to the other. I will do this as part of the cleanup process. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  00:15, 23 December 2013 (UTC)


 * To clarify, you intend to separate the two articles, correct? The Hustlers Convention article was only undeleted per my request as I initially believed it to be about the subject I wrote about. I am somewhat confused, as unless you wish to re/undelete the previous history, there does not seem to be any reason to change the situation. OSborn arfcontribs. 02:43, 23 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, there will be two articles. Having a single page that covers two different things in its article history is generally considered A Bad Thing&trade; in Wikipedia.  The common thing to do in a case like this is to split it into two articles, with the edits about the previous contents staying at their current location and the newer edits going to a new page, in this case named Hustlers Convention (Lightnin' Rod album) (if you can think of a better name, the page can be renamed later).  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  03:02, 23 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The history split and cleanup are finished for both articles. Edit away.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  19:35, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

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my edit
I'm not sure why you deleted my edit. It was perfectly good info about a book that critiques Rush's logic. I linked to the Amazon page because it contains a description of the book. If you have any specific problems, please clarify. If not, I'm going to revert back to my edit in a day or so. Thanx. Costatitanica (talk) 19:45, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I deleted your link because it appeared to be spam. Just because something exists doesn't mean it needs to be included: what is the grander significance of the book? Is the book itself notable, as with ... Is a Big Fat Idiot? Why does it merit inclusion? Wikipedia's policy of neutral point of view requires that topics are given due weight- the Limbaugh page does not exist to catalog critics of Limbaugh (or to laud Limbaugh.) OSborn arfcontribs. 03:29, 20 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I absolutely agree that the "Limbaugh page does not exist to catalog critics of Limbaugh". And I don't think I've given it due weight. I do think that a book by a professor that is devoted to critiquing Limbaugh's logic merits two lines in a section of a page about a person. It's hardly likely to change the POV of the whole article. People who are interested will follow the link, and people who aren't will ignore it.  If we limited pages to things that a have a 'grand significance', we could probably delete 75% percent of Wikipedia.   Costatitanica (talk) 15:18, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

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