User talk:OWGNicholas

May 2022
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Assassin's Creed Odyssey, you may be blocked from editing. Please immediately stop with your removal of the open-world category from video games enmass without explaination. -- ferret (talk) 02:20, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. -- ferret (talk) 02:25, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia isn't based on what's stated on official websites, but on what reliable secondary sources state. As soon as you were warned to stop, that was time to open your discussion. Beginning to restore your removals with a flawed rationale is exceedingly disruptive. -- ferret (talk) 02:40, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Well then remove it Ferret so I can edit my user page instead with the changes and outline I wanna make as a base template. And as i said, the point isn’t to remove things, its to start discussions on things. If not I’ll just use one of my older accounts to do so. NickWX28 (talk) 02:44, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @User:NinjaRobotPirate I am no longer going to be using this account. I will be using my new one going forward because thats the new username I go by now and will be. I have been meaning to create that one for a while but was too lazy to do so because I can’t do it on my phone because the IP Address is blocked for some reason, thus i have to do it on my laptop. But again, no longer using this username so even when the block expires its not gonna be used.NickWX28 (talk) 09:53, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Nick, blocks are not placed just on accounts or IPs, but on the editor behind them. Once you've been blocked, you're not allowed to edit, on any account or IP. Doing so is block evasion and very often leads to extending the original block or even making it indefinite. Similarly, you cannot use WP:CLEANSTART to avoid scrutiny. Clean Start explicitly requires that your new account not be clearly identifiable as you through continuing the same edits that cause scrutiny in the first place. To immediately create a new account in regards to open-world video game category sorting is straight up block evasion and not a valid Clean Start. NinjaRobotPirate has been extremely lenient. If you want to clean start after your block expires, you'll need to avoid the editing of video game genre categories entirely. -- ferret (talk) 12:56, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, you're Dohvahkiin. I was going to check on that, but NinjaRobotPirate already identified your old account. I already explained all of this to you, including your misunderstanding of CLEANSTART, years ago. Then let me make this clear: I'm explicitly telling you to stop editing video game categories. This has gone on for years, and I've warned you too many times. Any continued disruption in regards to open world video games will result in an indefinite block. -- ferret (talk) 12:58, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ferret The open-world category is the entire reason i have an account. Even have it saved on my browser so that if people do add or remove something, i check to make sure its been done correctly. I’m not referring to Clean Start in the way you’re thinking. I’m referring to it because I have already rebranded my entire social media presence to the new username and thus i have to here as well. It has nothing to do with being non-identifiable and everything to do with matching my current username preferences. I change it a lot because I haven’t found a username I like entirely and also people tell me not to use my real name. But yeah, if I don’t police the category, then theres no point in having an account because I literally don’t do anything else. I’d delete the other ones but I don’t know how to. Once i decide on changing my username, thats it. I don’t go back to using the old one. NickWX28 (talk) 15:00, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Also by police I literally mean i notice each and every edit and check to make sure theres sources backing it. Also there are a lot of sandboxes that get added and i remove those. My point here was not to be disruptive, I just feel that there has to be a correct process for things. Your thing was “don’t remove them without explanation” so I provided an explanation and then you said its an invalid one, in which case all you had to do was say that to get me to stop and talk. Thats it. A lot of people don’t understand this about me: Blocking makes things worse because then all i am focused on is reversing it. Not whatever is causing it. NickWX28 (talk) 15:06, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok. If you're not going to listen, do not be surprised when I indefinitely block you for editing this category again. The community has spent 7 years trying to correct your inappropriate management of this category. It does not appear you're capable of understanding the guidelines.
 * If you want to insist on switching your account to NJRWX, I am willing to indefinitely block your old abandoned accounts with a note that you will edit as NJRWX going forward. If and when you "rebrand" again, you will be expected to submit a renaming request. Creating further accounts will be grounds for an indefinite block in my eyes. I will only do this if you agree to an indefinite one account restriction. for opinion.-- ferret (talk) 15:19, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand the guidelines. Would it be best if I go back to my original ECW account and just submit a rename request in that case? Also is it possible to change the email address as well? At the time i created my Dohvahkiin one, I did not know it was possible to rename your account. Only reason i learned it was possible when I renamed Dohvahkiin is because i spent a good chunk of time researching it. I am serious about the rebranding thing though. I’m on like my fourth Facebook account, my fourth Twitter, not sure about Reddit or Twitch. I’m not doing things with the purpose of beinv disruptive. I genuinely want to help and make it a better place. But yes I will agree to everything you said. I don’t even remember my passwords to my older ones because ive just forgotten their existence. Helps because there isn’t any way to delete them either. NickWX28 (talk) 15:29, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * If you don't know the passwords to your older accounts or have access to the emails currently associated to them, I cannot help with recovery. If you still have access to the associated email, you can reset your password. You'll need to inform me which account specifically you will use going forward. However, since you want the name NJRWX, I'd recommend simply picking up that one going forward and disclosing on the userpage your old accounts. I will unblock it once you decide on an account (Assuming NRP does not protest). I again warn you that if I find you inappropriately adding or removing this category again, I'll indefinitely block you and that will be the end of it, you'll have to find a new hobby. -- ferret (talk) 15:32, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sounds fine to me. For everyone's sake, please just pick one account and stick with it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:02, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Dohvahkiin/Nick: This is pending a decision on your end on which account you wish to stick with. -- ferret (talk) 15:58, 5 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I am going to use this one but rename it to NicholasJRWX as that is the name I am going by now on all of social media. NickWX28 (talk) 01:44, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I will unblock. Very well. You can you can request your rename. Understand there will likely not be another chance, if you're found to create anymore accounts or to edit in regards to "open world" again, you'll be indefinite blocked and I will oppose any appeals. -- ferret (talk) 01:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll probably go through you before I make any changes to the open-world category from now on. You're more of an expert than I. NickWX28 (talk) 01:55, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You can request rename at Special:GlobalRenameRequest -- ferret (talk) 01:56, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Rakuyou (song)
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Your draft article, Draft:Rakuyou (song)


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Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep
@Ferret I actually tried to start a discussion about this on the talk page for Birth by Sleep months ago but nothing got going. I'll just ask it here.

"The problem with bringing such an open world series as Kingdom Hearts to the PSP is that you’re restricted in what you can achieve with the hardware." - Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep Review - PlayStation Universe (psu.com)

I was wondering if this is sufficient enough to add it to the category. It is however the only review I could find which mentions it. NickWX28 (talk) 02:43, 12 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Perhaps I wasn't clear enough before. Do not edit or concern yourself with open world topics at all. -- ferret (talk) 03:02, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It is the main reason I am on Wikipedia though and am not on here for any other reason. Like I said, I will go to you before I edit from now on. NickWX28 (talk) 03:10, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

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June 2023
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for continuing to edit the 'open world' topic despite prior unblock discussion and a direct warning that the next time you did so, you would be indefinite blocked. You've once again begun making unsourced open-world genre changes, so....  If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page:. -- ferret (talk) 23:25, 2 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Its sourced in the gameplay section where it literally says the game is free-roaming in nature. I didn’t add that source thats been there. If you wanna say its unsourced then at least check the source provided. I trust that the other editors have diligently checked that beforehand. OWGNicholas (talk) 23:45, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Was I unclear in the past? Special:Diff/1086083618, Special:Diff/1086153122, Special:Diff/1086174172, Special:Diff/1109823714, Special:Diff/1109831883 -- ferret (talk) 23:49, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * No but i also made it clear that my sole purpose for having a Wikipedia account is to make sure the open-world category is as accurate as possible. I know yall can’t see it, but I literally email the publishers to confirm each game in the category is an open-world game, Redguard is the most recent one. Literally emailed Bethesda support about it. It’s difficult to find sources for Redguard though because its pre internet. But that doesn’t really matter in this case as a source was already provided. If there was no source then yes, I’d agree with you however, in this case, there is. In the gameplay section. You have to trust me at some point with this. I would not make an edit if i did not have something concrete to go on. Even those prior edits were because there weren’t any sources supporting it. Or there were but it contradicts the devs/publishers. Years ago i used to make unsourced edits but that’s because I didn’t understand how Wikipedia worked back then. In Redguards case, i confirmed it with Bethesda support first and then looked for a source. Couldn’t find one stating its exactly open-world, but the gameplay section already has a source which says it has free roaming which is similar and has been used as an equivalent term on other games.
 * https://www.reddit.com/user/Nick_Reichling/comments/13yuabz/bethesda/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
 * And no I don’t just go by the support emails i just use the support emails to narrow stuff down so I can pick which games are worth getting sources for. I always start with The Elder Scrolls and Fallout series because those are my favorites and Bethesda Game Studios is my favorite developer. Has been since i first played Oblivion back in 2008. But I keep restarting when interrupted. I know it sounds stupid but I literally will NOT play a game unless there is an official first or third party source that classifies the game as an open-world. I do not trust anyone else.
 * Also I am the one who removed Redguard in the first place due to the fact that at the time i was being strict with the term open-world. Like literally unless it contained those exact words, I didn’t count a source. Which works with more recent games but with older games such as Redguard I’ve come to realize they used different terms back then.
 * Also I am good at finding more obscure games to add to the category. I am a GameStop employee and we get games in our inventory that yall don’t even have listed here such as Medieval Dynasty, Warhammer 40,000 Inqusitor - Martyr, The Eternal Cylinder, Way of the Hunter. OWGNicholas (talk) 00:13, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * We're not interested if your sole interest is something you've repeatedly been disruptive about, including socking. It's not our problem you lack interest in doing anything else. The text above literally just proves you can't follow our guidelines, because "emailing the publishers" is absolutely not suitable for sourcing and WP:V. -- ferret (talk) 00:24, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Emailing them isn’t for the purpose of sourcing its for the purpose of narrowing down games for me to find sources for. I’m not interested in finding sources or even editing the page if its not at least confirmed in some way beforehand. OWGNicholas (talk) 00:27, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ferret At the very least, I’d like to be able to prove myself to you, and one of the ways I can do that is by making requests for video game article creation. Again i tend to find common open-world games to more obscure ones and I’d like to at least be able to get articles created for those obscure ones if possible by locating sources for them. I like doing research like that. OWGNicholas (talk) 00:25, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * You've got like, literally 4-6 blocks under your belt for this same issue. Your chance to prove yourself was when we did not indef block you last time, and only blocked your sockpuppet. -- ferret (talk) 00:28, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * How would you like me to prove it then? OWGNicholas (talk) 00:40, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ferret How about this: I won’t edit the category anymore as long as I can still request articles for creation, in addition, I am creating my own thing over on Fandom. At least I can contribute to growing it here by requesting articles for those more unknown games while satisfying my own style over on Fandom. OWGNicholas (talk) 00:51, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, you've expended my good will. I've heard "Ok, I won't do it anymore" too many times. Follow WP:GAB and maybe you can convince someone else. -- ferret (talk) 00:53, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Eh, thats a lot of work. I’ll just be more careful and only make article requests while using my IP address. Maybe after a bit of that I will have proven myself OWGNicholas (talk) 01:00, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Using an IP is block evasion and grounds for your IP to be blocked as well. Doing so will simply lessen the chance you get unblocked. -- ferret (talk) 01:00, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I don’t edit the category with my IP though. I have never done so with it. OWGNicholas (talk) 01:14, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Read WP:BLOCKEVADE. It isn't your account that is blocked. You, the person behind the account OWGNicholas, are blocked. If you edit at all with an IP, for any reason, or create new accounts, that is block evasion and grounds to block your IP, any sockpuppet accounts, and eventually if you are caught socking enough times (You already have 2 strikes), you will be community banned and any appeal has to go before the community to even be considered. So, I again suggest you either read WP:GAB, or find a new hobby. -- ferret (talk) 01:22, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * My hobby is gaming. OWGNicholas (talk) 01:26, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ferret I’m not requesting another article for a while so i got time before I do. I guess its best if I just wait till then to request to be unblocked huh? OWGNicholas (talk) 01:35, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh i counted this btw and this is my third. Only had two others. The initial one on ECW years ago and then my one from May of last year. Everything else has solely been notifications or thanking me for certain edits. OWGNicholas (talk) 02:19, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * User talk:ECW28
 * Only one block here back in **2015** OWGNicholas (talk) 04:24, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * And ZERO here User talk:Nickr0428 OWGNicholas (talk) 04:28, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Unblock Request
24.47.203.20 (talk) 00:19, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Unblock Request
OWGNicholas (talk) 15:58, 26 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Please note that during OWGNicholas' prior unblock, they promised to abide by a One Account Restriction. Continuing to an IP editor would fly in the face of that and just amount to an effort to evade scrutiny. Note that I've tagged their 3 sockpuppets for record keeping. -- ferret (talk) 00:38, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note that they are not sockpuppets. I created them because I didn’t realize it was possible to change your username previously. I keep my usernames across all platforms the same so whenver I update it to a new one i update them all. I will be changing my username here again because i no longer use the current one. Blame PlayStation and their trophy system for that. OWGNicholas (talk) 01:05, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, i use my IP address when I don’t feel like logging in. I don’t save my login info and if it’s something quick I don’t really need to login for that stuff. Pretty sure we can all attest to being lazy at times and not feeling like going through that process. OWGNicholas (talk) 01:10, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Noting that at User talk:24.47.203.20 the user has indicated they will not abide by their previously agreed one account restriction. -- ferret (talk) 16:23, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Talk page access
Regarding your email, I have modified your IP's block settings so that you can edit this page while logged into your account, as I did not intend to restrict that. However, if you continue the same line of argument here, I will restore that setting. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:41, 2 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Also I apologize. Just feeling a bit frustrated so gonna not worry about being unblocked for now. I don’t really have anything to edit rn anyways. OWGNicholas (talk) 17:44, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Unblock Request
"I understand completely that ban evasion is frowned upon and haven’t done that with the intention of evading bans". Obviously false, see Special:Contributions/24.47.203.20. OWGNicholas, you have no chance of being unblocked while you are attempting to mislead us. For your sake, I very very strongly urge you to remove that from your unblock request. You may also want to address your behaviour over at User talk:24.47.203.20 which showed, as of August 2023, you were fundamentally incompatible with Wikipedia. I say this honestly; there's a reasonable chance you could convince us you understand how terrible your behaviour was, four months ago, and how you'll take a completely different approach going forward. --Yamla (talk) 12:14, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Now is also the time to admit to your additional sockpuppet. I know what it is and will not hold it against you if you come clean right now. --Yamla (talk) 12:18, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I believe its my Cinderace one though I do not even remember the login for it nor the password. I don’t even remember why I made it. I apologize for that, was frustrated and never used it. I can’t even remember when i made it exactly.
 * My contributions on my IP address as the time I didn’t consider to be ban evading, because when I made those contributions i wasn’t banned. Just didn’t feel like logging into my account repeatedly. I used both in conjuncture. But that was in the past, prior to the conversation on that IP address. After taking a few months though and calming down about it, I can understand now why thats frowned upon. OWGNicholas (talk) 16:27, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * As for how I would approach it going forward: Obviously logging into my account to edit would be a start. And if i don’t know the best way to approach something, ask one of my peers here for help in doing so.
 * And to stop editing the open-world category. I was only doing so to try to make it up to my standards, but i know not everything can be perfect. Besides, now if i wanna know if a game is open-world, i just ask Chat GPT and add it to my backlog if it is lol. OWGNicholas (talk) 16:38, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You don't remember the password or why you made a sock account just 3 days ago? I won't stand in Yamla's way of forgiving it, but I think you can explain a little better. -- ferret (talk) 17:56, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I believe it was made at the same time that my talk page access was restricted. Which would’ve been back in August.
 * Actually yes that is when. August 2nd. I made it because my talk page access got restricted, which i later found out from Ivan was an accident. Found the email.
 * I’m not sure which account you’re referring to from three days ago though? OWGNicholas (talk) 19:01, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * was the account I was referring to. It was indeed made back in August and has no edits. CU evidence concurs that OWGNicholas has been unable to log in to the account recently, though I wildly speculate they could follow the forgotten password functionality. There may be another account but I'm not currently aware of it. OWGNicholas, you mentioned ChatGPT earlier. Note that ChatGPT is not a reliable source and very often produces false information. You don't indicate you plan to rely on it or use it as a source for your Wikipedia edits, I'm just pointing out that while it's a fascinating tool, you need to deeply distrust any output it creates. --Yamla (talk) 19:06, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Noted. And no i don’t intend to use it as a source. Its more for personal use. OWGNicholas (talk) 19:08, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Yamla This is my bad. I'm not sure what happened. I looked at SUL and swear I saw November 29. But you're right it's August 2. I baffle myself on this one. -- ferret (talk) 19:10, 2 December 2023 (UTC)