User talk:Oatitonimly

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May 2016
Your recent editing history at Turkish–Armenian War shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Canvassing at "Requested move 2 May 2016"
It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. Darwinian Ape talk 18:52, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Renaming wikilinks and other things
Until the issue of the article name is settled, I don't think you should be making a large number of edits altering Turkish–Armenian War to Turkish Invasion of Armenia. You should definitely not be doing it for Wikilinks because there is no Turkish Invasion of Armenia article or a redirect with that title. The only current redirect is Turkish Invasion of Armenia (1920). This you definitely should not have done - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Armenian_Genocide/Archive_23&diff=prev&oldid=718195722 - you are altering the posts made by other editors and this is not allowed. I have reverted your edit for that reason. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 20:55, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

AN/I Notification
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Darwinian Ape talk 03:06, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Gyumri. Darwinian Ape talk 09:52, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Treaty of Alexandropol
Hi, I haven't realized that it was my fourth revert at Treaty of Alexandropol but your revert was also your fourth revert in the same article. I self reverted though I appreciate if you do the same and take it to the talk page of the article. Darwinian Ape talk 21:17, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
Darwinian Ape talk 04:51, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Georgian-Armenian War "First Republic of Armenia"
Hey, you've been recently trying to revert my edits on the section Georgian-Armenian war of the article "First Republic of Armenia" stating it is "no academic research" which is not really a valid reason to do when you have a very detailed article of 75 pages with research quoting and referencing several other sources and authors including Hovnanian. Hovanian himself does only give a comparibly more brief overview on the conflict itself while Andersen provides the conflict itself in a lot of detail with practicaly the same base only additional information - that he didn't simply pull out of his bottom but mostly quotes and references. So please avoid doing that as it doesn't seem very reasonable, especialy since I'm not deleting or changing anything but simply inserting a major event that needs to be mentioned. Peace out. TheMightyGeneral (talk) 21:10, 9 May 2016 (UTC)#

Oatitonimly, you keep deleting informations on an article without any valid reason. You requested a talk eg descussion. However you've been ignoring any opporunity to provide explenation to your edits on any talk page, including your own despite me opening a talk section. Either explain why you're deleting sourced information with academic background ( as you like to insist on ) or avoid that behaviour altogheter. Trying to revert valid edits won't help anyone. I am still ready to discuss and work this out if you show the desire to act more reanably. For instance by replying. TheMightyGeneral (talk) 18:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Those are not numbers I invented but the exact numbers that are stated in Andersen's article, maybe you should read it, btw Hovannian even gives greater casualty figures for the Armenians. Hold on to your own principles please. Deleting the talk page is no solution .... TheMightyGeneral (talk) 04:04, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I have moved this from my talk page since you blatantly keep ignoring it and resorted to keep deleting content without discussion at this point.

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Edit warning and content blanking
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:17, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

WW 1 casualties
I checked the cited source David Fromkin, A Peace to End All Peace, p.213 on Google books. The edit @ WW1 casualties is correct and the source reliable--Woogie10w (talk19:04, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Woogie10w, your point does not support the text in the article. The footnote text alleges that the Armenian Genocide and its 1.5 million victims is a "distorted work of wartime propaganda". It is not. The historical truth of the AG and the 1.5 million figure is accepted in all books about the Armenian Genocide except those that seek to deny it; these books were published in the 2010s, 2000s, 1990s, 1980s, etc. Such books cannot be called "wartime propaganda". The footnote above it states unequivocally "The total number of resulting Armenian deaths is generally held to have been 1.5 million". Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 20:04, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Sevres treaty
Regarding your edits here, while I think you have gone too far with renaming the Wikilinks, there is a general problem with these articles being riddled with Turkish propaganda lies - I've already removed the lies regarding the Sevres Treaty and Armenia - and work is needed to eliminate this. The claim that the terms were "far more severe than those imposed on the German Empire" is obviously a pov opinion and seems out of place in the lede, and one that also seems to have little basis in fact (the German Empire was required to relinquish all of its possessions, unlike the Ottoman Empire, was effectively abolished as an empire, unlike the Ottoman Empire, and its leader required to abdicate and be prosecuted for war crimes, unlike the Ottoman Sultan). The lede linked Partitioning of the Ottoman Empire is similarly full of lies and distortions. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 19:34, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

WW1 Casualties
I have initiated a discussion of the source A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire at Talk:World War I casualties. If you get a chance please add your thoughts on this source. Regards --Woogie10w (talk) 20:51, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Erlikman
If you can read Russian, I will gladly send jpgs from his book. berndd11222@gmail.com Regards--Woogie10w (talk) 23:14, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

I recommend "The Armenian Genocide" by Raymond Kevorkian. It was a bit tedious but well worth reading. I try to stay off Wikipedia and keep up on my reading.--Woogie10w (talk) 23:22, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

stop vandalism in all the pages!!! if you can justify all the terrorist acts against Azerbaijanis and Azerbaijan then prove it please, by using strong evidences (sure except Armenian sources), if you don't have then please, have respect to the others.−−Freedom Wolfs (talk) 00:56, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oatitonimly, I see you have been attempting to remove the worst of a toothless old wolf's propaganda. I've pov tagged some of his recent creations, if you want to do more pov tagging it would be a better way of getting the articles fixed. If you explain on the talk page what is wrong with the content and then pov tag the article, that opens the way for offending content to be removed so that the pov tag can be removed. If Freedom Wolfs reinserts the offending content, a good case for getting him blocked could be made. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 02:50, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * User:Tiptoethrutheminefield Shouldn't a POV tag be used for content that can be disputed, not content that is a huge violation of the guidelines? --Oatitonimly (talk) 15:28, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Depending on the issue, it could be the same thing. The huge violation here seems to be the unashamed pov wording, so I think the tag is legitimate. Of course the pov wording could just be removed without first tagging the article. However, tagging the article puts down a marker that there are pov problems and (because the pov tag has to be justifiable and be accompanied by an explanation about why it is necessary) this makes it difficult for Freedom Wolfs to re-insert the pov wording. It shouldn't be the task of other editors to have to clean up Freedom Wolfs' messes - if this editor continues in this way, repeatedly using pov wording, maybe he needs a formal warning that he is writing unacceptable content. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 16:39, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * That's why I dropped a warning and explanation on his talk, to open up the possibility of a ban if he keeps doing this. --Oatitonimly (talk) 17:01, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Edit Warring
Hi Oatitonimly. Please refrain from edit warring in pages like you're doing in Turkish War of Independence and Armenian Language. Please use the talk page and reliable sources. See WP:3RR, WP:TP and WP:RS. Thank you. (N0n3up (talk) 16:54, 2 June 2016 (UTC))
 * Please refrain from edit-warring. I am more than willing to talk about the subject in hand. You said you took it to the talk page, you did discuss there but never about the topic you keep deleting. I opened a discussion here. And please refrain from reverting until reaching consensus thus not risking violating the Three-Revert Rule. (N0n3up (talk) 23:13, 2 June 2016 (UTC))

You are also edit warring on Caucasian race. Stop.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 19:00, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Notice of Discretionary Sanctions for Armenia, Azerbaijan, or related conflicts
 Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 19:08, 6 June 2016 (UTC)