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Hoods Tower Museum
Your edit on this gave me no sense, therefore I reverted it. Could you explian what did you mean by Sinhala navy?--L Manju (talk) 07:54, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It was a response to this edit by you which suggests that being a naval museum means that Sinhala should come before Tamil.--Obi2canibe (talk) 15:05, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I missed the fact that you'd changed the Sinhala translation which I've corrected now.--Obi2canibe (talk) 15:09, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

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Sri Sabaratnam
I noticed that you reverted my edits on this page, but I don't understand your comment or why you think that I "have only confused the issue." I'm a member of the Wikipedia Typo Team, so I originally came to the page because it had a double 'of'. Keeping in mind that Wikipedia is for a worldwide audience, and also noting that The New York Times, which has had more coverage of the fighting in Sri Lanka than any American newspaper, has never used the terms TELO and LTTE (I just checked their archives to be sure), these abbreviations should not appear in Wikipedia. They are jargon "insider's" terms, and if anything, replacing them with real names makes an article easier to read, not more confusing. UK newspapers explain these abbreviations every time they use them or use short names, such as "Tamil Tigers." I strongly urge you to reconsider your use of the jargon abbreviations so that this Wikipedia page is more easily read by a general and worldwide audience. (I hope that the pages on related subjects that also terms get changed, too.) That's the purpose of an encyclopedia. Thank you for reading this.

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Ira Leviton (talk) 22:08, 7 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I appreciate all that you and others do in cleaning up Wikipedia articles (it's an endless task) but you are wrong in this matter. LTTE and TELO are not jargons or insider terms, they are acronyms/abbreviations which were defined the article so no reader should be confused. Acronyms/abbreviations are used widely, we even use them at Wikipedia: WP:ABC.--Obi2canibe (talk) 19:19, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Category:First Secretaries of the Parliament of Catalonia
In reference to this edit in my talk, you know WP:CIVIL is a Wikipedia policy, right? Impru20 (talk) 22:52, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Are you going to acknowledge that you got it wrong?--Obi2canibe (talk) 22:59, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I could've gotten it wrong, but that gives you no right to insult me and call me a fool. Impru20 (talk) 23:02, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Could've? That's no acknowledgement. If you hadn't been stalking me you wouldn't have made such a foolish mistake. Because of your mistake the history of Category:First Secretaries of the Socialists' Party of Catalonia shows that I created it. I did not. I created Category:First Secretaries of the Parliament of Catalonia but according to its history I've never edited it. You've messed up big.--Obi2canibe (talk) 23:09, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Stalking you? You should have your facts straight, pal, because now you're going too far. I've both Pere Navarro and Miquel Iceta in my watchlist, so that's why I saw you modified these and why I thought that the actual intended category was Category:First Secretaries of the Socialists' Party of Catalonia. I've no issue in saying that was an error, so you trying to make an enormous case out of it would be funny if it weren't because it's a disgusting ignoral of good faith.
 * It's currently pointless who created Category:First Secretaries of the Socialists' Party of Catalonia, no one is going to give you or me a prize or punishment for it (just as it shows you "created it", it shows how I moved it. Simple and nothing wrong with it). You should cool down your growingly uncivil behaviour. Impru20 (talk) 23:19, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Is that an acknowledgement you got it wrong? I can't tell, what with all the threats. If you hadn't jumped in with both feet, as you did with Template:Generalitat de Catalunya, maybe you wouldn't have made such a cock up. Who confuses Parliament of Catalonia with Socialists' Party of Catalonia?--Obi2canibe (talk) 23:25, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to enter into any provocation. Take a look at WP:UNCIVIL, WP:IUC, WP:NPA and WP:SORRY to make yourself familiar with Wikipedia policies on the issue. Have a nice day. Impru20 (talk) 23:33, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

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Ministries of Sri Lanka
Any updates on the edits to those articles? I notice most of them havent been edited since I last did in September.

I just realized we never agreed on the currency symbol issue either. - ක - (talk) 08:23, 19 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I've been busy. Frankly. I can't see a window opening any time soon which will allow me to do the changes. So go ahead and do whatever you wanted to do.--Obi2canibe (talk) 15:18, 3 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Yeah, don't think I'm going to touch those either. I can't see a point in maintaining a page that gets invalidated every couple years when various ministries are split and mashed together at will. Can't think of a better way to do this either. - ක - (talk) 05:51, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

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2018 anti-Muslim riots in Sri Lanka
Hi, Obi2canibe I request you whether you can able to take photographs to improve the article on 2018 anti-Muslim riots in Sri Lanka. I also noticed that you have done great work in the article 2014 anti-Muslim riots in Sri Lanka including uploading images to Wikimedia Commons. Thanks in advance. Abishe (talk) 11:17, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I don't live in Sri Lanka.--Obi2canibe (talk) 13:14, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

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Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam
Categorising organisations like this is very difficult, but generally the term Paramilitary seems helpful to characterise various types of unofficial military organisations. See Category:Paramilitary organizations by country "Militant" in most of the world doesn't have a very precise meaning. Can we use both terms? Rathfelder (talk) 13:08, 8 April 2018 (UTC)


 * My understanding of paramilitaries is that they are armed groups that work alongside official security forces and this is what Paramilitary says. It should not include armed groups fighting the government unless local sources describe them as paramilitaries (e.g. the IRA is described as paramilitary in British sources even though they fought against the government). I see that Category:Paramilitary organizations by country takes a different view in that it includes all armed groups, including those fighting the government.


 * In Sri Lanka the term paramilitary is specifically used for groups that work alongside the security forces (e.g. EPDP, TMVP). It would be hard to find any source that describes the LTTE as a paramilitary group - they are usually described as militant or rebel.


 * I don't won't get into a long debate about this so if you want to include both terms please go ahead.--Obi2canibe (talk) 13:24, 8 April 2018 (UTC)


 * My impression is that the use of all these terms is pretty arbitrary and varies by time and place. I'm concerned principally to link all these articles about organisations to the countries they operate in, as the vast majority weren't.  But by attaching the paramilitary category to Category:Factions in the Sri Lankan Civil War perhaps we can avoid the problem. Rathfelder (talk) 15:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Seems a fair compromise.--Obi2canibe (talk) 22:31, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

ANI notification
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. GiantSnowman 08:26, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Is this still going on or closed ? Kanatonian (talk) 15:02, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * GiantSnowman: Fortunately for this user, it got closed due to inactivity. I was participating, but couldn't dedicate much time as I am travelling until the end of the month. IMHO, the thread should not have been closed. Reh  man  05:44, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Reverting of edits post-ANI thread
Soon after my participation in User:RitzAgasti's ANI thread against you, it seems like you have intentionally gone through my recent contributions and undid a bunch of my edits: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. I've mentioned "intentionally" because you were 'vigilant' enough to have even revert edits in an article that I had created very shortly before your reverts (i.e. an article without any other watchers).

Looking at the diffs of your 'reverts', it is obvious that it was not done with best intentions. Your edits removed entire "See also" sections quoting only "WP:ALSO", removed single descriptive images that indeed enriched the article by quoting only "WP:NOTGALLERY", among others shown in the diffs above. I will be adding back the images and see also sections, and also some other formatting for whitespace/overlapping (such as Clear). Reh man  09:54, 19 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid you're getting paranoid. All of the above articles are on my watchlist or were alerted to me by their appearance on WP:LK.


 * It's a pity I am having to explain basic stuff to an admin but that's where we are.
 * WP:ALSO clearly states "the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body or its navigation boxes." The See also sections I removed contained articles (e.g. List of dams and reservoirs in Sri Lanka, List of power stations in Sri Lanka) which were listed in the two navigation boxes at the bottom of the articles (Template:Electricity in Sri Lanka, Template:Inland waters of Sri Lanka). Where removal of these articles resulted in there being nothing left in the See Also section I, rightly, removed the section.


 * WP:NOTGALLERY clearly states that "Wikipedia is neither a mirror nor a repository of links, images, or media files". I also suggest you read WP:IG which states "a gallery is not a tool to shoehorn images into an article". Adding images that you have taken to article simply to showcase yourself is unbecoming of any editor but particularly so of an admin. The images that I removed, many of which were in gallery sections rather in amongst text, do not add any encyclopedic value to the articles.


 * Saying in your edit summaries that my edits were unexplained removal of content is not only a lie but also unworthy of someone in an admin role. It is becoming clearer and clearer that you are not suitable for the role.--Obi2canibe (talk) 17:51, 22 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Regarding the "basic stuff" you mentioned above:
 * WP:ALSO also states "Whether a link belongs in the "See also" section is ultimately a matter of editorial judgment and common sense". The links in the see also section are very helpful for speedier navigation, as the other links are at the very bottom of the article, and are more often collapsed by default; not easily accessible, especially on mobile devices. If it were directly linked in the article body, then your argument can be considered valid. But that is not the case.
 * Please explain, how is this not adding encyclopedic value to the article?
 * Reh man  02:36, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm glad that I've forced you to read up on Wikipedia policies. You're welcome.
 * 1. The articles under discussion are very short. Common sense would suggest that you don't need to list articles which are already listed in navigation templates. Why do you think that WP:ALSO states "As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body or its navigation boxes"?


 * The only reason you want them listed separately in the See also section is because you worked on these articles. As with spamming articles with photos you've taken, you are subverting Wikipedia policies to promote yourself. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not a place to promote one-self in order to beef up one's CV and LinkedIn profile.


 * 2. This article is very short, almost a stub, with just five sentences of text. It already has an image in the infobox. What encyclopedic value does a second image add?--Obi2canibe (talk) 11:46, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


 * For the sake of a clear conversation, I will ignore your usual personal attacks for now.
 * Stop dodging questions. You initially stated that the images you removed does not add any encyclopedic value. And I asked you clearly, how is this not adding encyclopedic value to the article? Answer my question.
 * -- Reh  man  15:07, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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Capital Maharaja
Thanks for message, but I don't think it's as simple as that. It's true that my attention was drawn to this when checking the contributions of an obvious undeclared paid editor, so I've looked at the version as last edited by you which still had major problems.
 * All the text outside the first paragraph was unreferenced. That paragraph had two references, on now dead, the other a news item about an attack on MTV studios not even mentioned in the text. So no references.
 * The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:
 * significant coverage in
 * independent,
 * multiple,
 * reliable,
 * secondary sources.
 * Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability. It's not enough to say a company meets Notability (organizations and companies), the refs must prove it.


 * The article has been tagged for weasel words and "wording that promotes the subject in a subjective manner without imparting real information" for the past three years.

If you think it's worth it, I'll restore it to a draft for you to improve, but bearing in mind that it's effectively unreferenced, and therefore doesn't meet the new notability criteria and has been tagged for tone issues, you might do better to rewrite from scratch. Your call, but I'm not prepared to restore an unreferenced article back to article space Jimfbleak - talk to me?  12:47, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


 * OK, I will start from scratch.--Obi2canibe (talk) 12:05, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Anusha Gunasekera
My dear friend, even i thoroughly reviewed the article and in sri lanka , being the opposition leader of a muncipal council is greayer than being a provincial councillor and infact provincial councillors have given up their post to take up opposition leadership as it give more centralized power in a particular area so i would prefer if you could reconsider your opinion on the deletion as myslef being another sri lankan know the great notability of Hon.Anusha so he deserves an article. 175.157.139.148 (talk) 14:40, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

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