User talk:Obornp

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P.S. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you need help with anything or simply wish to say hello. :)  _-M      o      P-_   21:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem! But you showed good initiative and signed up at the New User's Log. You also seem very enthusiastic. Anyway, if you ever have any questions at all (heck, they don't have to be related to Wikipedia :P), just zip down to my talk page and fire away.  _-M      o      P-_   21:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
 * P.S. I was wondering, what kind of stuff did you think you'd be doing on Wikipedia? As a reference point so I know how to help.

Level 3 Communications
Hi, I reverted your edit to the Level 3 Communications page. WP:MoS doesn't like lists if they can be avoided, and I don't know if the additions were really that relevant. Let me know if you disagree! Thanks, 17:20, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't mind that you replaced it, but can you word it sans jargon? I have no idea what an "indirect channel partner" may be. A client, perhap? Fleetham (talk) 04:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I replaced 'channel partner' with 'sales agency' per your request. - Obornp (talk) 14:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry to bother you, but could you make more substantial changes? I still don't really understand what an "indirect sales agency" is, or why listing the top ten is important. I think we should remove the list and replace it with a description of how Level 3 Communications sells its products. That will be more durable and better inform the reader than a list of companies that may become outdated. Fleetham (talk) 16:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

No worries. An indirect sales agency is an official sales company that is contracted with Level 3 (or any carrier) to sell their products to businesses. The main difference between employees (inside or 'direct' sales) and outside agencies (indirect sales) is that the outside sales reps don't earn any salary or benefits. We work 100% for residual commission. Typically, carriers move about 50% of their products through their own employees (direct sales) and 50% through the indirect "channel", or group of outside sales companies. Both receive product training from the carrier, as well as internal sales engineering support resources. I'm thinking a page for "Indirect Sales Channel" may be warranted. You're not the first person who has asked about this. The Cisco indirect sales channel, for example, accounts for over 90% of the company's sales revenue. It's akin to outsourcing your sales department - because if the outside sales reps don't actually sell anything, the companies don't have to pay.

With regards to the Level 3 page, I can do additional research and probe my contacts within Level 3 to learn more about their specific sales channels. As I am the most well versed on the indirect channel, as evidenced by my contribution, I'll need a little time to investigate the others. (ie: gov't, wholesale, etc.) -- Obornp (talk) 15:03, 18 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Correction - I did find the appropriate indirect sales link. But it could use a LOT of work.  That will be my

next project. -- Obornp (talk) 15:09, 18 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clarifying. And I wouldn't recommend doing original research, as WP:No original research is one of the main tenets of Wikipedia. 18:18, 18 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the tip. Once I found out what structure is in place at Level 3, I'll do my best to find already-published works to support the findings.  -- Obornp (talk) 12:25, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

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