User talk:Ocexpo/United States presidential election, 2012 (sandbox)

Sandbox?
Just calling a page in the article namespace a sandbox does not make it one. Sandboxes are subpages which are a namespace unto themselves. This is an article, and I'll retag it. I'll recognize the temporary nature of the sources, though, in print form the article would be considered without references.Synchronism (talk) 02:25, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The 2012 Article has been blocked, yet there have been significant developments regarding the NEXT election. The Sandbox is for articles that are a work in progress, are they not? Also, I have sourced everything on here (although I didn't source them in the proper format). Ocexpo (talk) 03:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Article
To me this seems good enough to be its own article.--Kanata Kid (talk) 13:01, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The greedy admins wont open up the actual page, so for now, this is the "acting" page until this page can be transferred to the real 2012 Election space. Ocexpo (talk) 03:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Candidates
Do you think there is any chance that McCain will run again, or is he to old? Also, is it possible for Obama to be forced out by his own party in the American system?--Kanata Kid (talk) 13:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

First of all, no, Obama can't be "forced" out. Anybody can run for any party - they just have to get enough signatures to get on the primary ballots. In fact, Obama can choose to run as a Republican if he gets the signatures to get on all of the primary ballots.

As for candidates, I see two glaring omissions. One is Mark Sanford. He doesn't have a lot of national name recognition, but he's very popular among the base and among insiders. He's got to be on there if Eric Cantor is on there (who has zero national name recognition, and certainly has a lower chance of getting the nomination than Sanford). Another candidate you have to add is Jeb Bush. Most likely, Bush won't run, but he will be a name that you're going to hear a lot, similar to Gore in 2004 and Kerry in 2008. I'm sure somebody will start a "Draft Jeb Bush 2012" movement, if it hasn't been done already. He needs to be on the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.171.127 (talk) 00:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and in response to the other question, there's no chance of McCain running again. He'll be way too old. And candidates never run right again after losing the general election (I honestly don't think anybody has done it since Grover Cleveland). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.171.127 (talk) 00:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Add the candidates to the list. If you can find a REPUTABLE SOURCE to verify your claims, then go for it. 98.149.127.13 (talk) 05:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Technically, Obama is now the highest official of the Democratic party and it is highly unlikely, assuming nothing extraordinary happens, that he will not be their nominee in 2012.Synchronism (talk) 06:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Here's a source on Sanford: http://news.aol.com/elections/article/republicans-gear-up-for-2012-race/242287  The same paragraph also mentions Rick Perry and Jon Huntsman, who I would consider lesser candidates. Their names will probably come up at some point, but I wouldn't add them to this page unless they actually hint at it themselves, or if some sort of "Draft Rick Perry" or "Draft Jon Huntsman" movement starts up. On the other hand, I WOULD add Sanford. As I said yesterday, he has very strong fiscal conservative credentials, and he's popular among the base and the party insiders. He was actually thought to be a leading VP candidate for McCain, but apparently (so the rumor goes) McCain nixed him because he was angry that Sanford didn't endorse him in 2008 (despite the fact that Sanford had gone out on a limb and endorsed him in 2000). Anyway, long story short, you have your reputable source for Sanford. Someone else just has to do the editing for me because I've never done editing for a wiki page before. You can just copy & paste the pic from his wiki bio page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.104.165.109 (talk) 19:41, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Can whoever just added Barbour please add Sanford? They are both mentioned as potential candidates in the same article, so you can use the identical reference you used for Barbour. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.171.127 (talk) 22:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)