User talk:Oda Mari/Archive 1

Thanks for the thanks! Yes, some of this can be a bit complicated initially, but you will find that your rate of learning will accelerate considerably as you begin to grasp the basics and find your way around. Adrian M. H.  12:43, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Rokkoku
Yes, but why is it easier for Japanese people to pronounce? That's the interesting question! :)

Welcome to Wikipedia! --RJCraig 10:04, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Ha ha! Hello, again, Mari-san. It's not that I don't accept it! I think it's very interesting that Japanese people switch the morphemes around this way and just want to understand why (in linguistic terms). Can you think of any similar examples? --RJCraig 15:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


 * OK. But what about a word like 穀物 kokumotu? Why isn't it reversed to mokkoku, since that is easier to say/has less "syllables"? --RJCraig 15:28, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello!
Hi, I just wanted to say that I like your username ^_^. I wonder if there's a "Kawa Yui" somewhere... -Egocentrism04 16:04, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


 * You knew, you knew. Congratulations, you are the first person who noticed. Mine is a perfect name. But I never knew a person called Ms./Mr. Kawa. Thank you.--Oda Mari 16:49, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't get it. Could you explain, please? It seems interesting. Also, I am curious if my usage of 「それを知らせてありがとう」 was correct in the discussion on my talk page. Thank you! LordAmeth 16:13, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

An Invitation
Hi Oda Mari,

Thanks for helping with Japan-related articles on Wikipedia. Here's an invitation to visit WikiProject Japan. There, you can meet other Wikipedians working on articles related to Japan. You'll find lists of new articles, projects, and links to resources such as


 * Manual of Style (Japan-related articles), with decisions the community has made about how to format articles
 * Template:Newest Japan-related articles, where you can list the articles you create so the community can see them
 * Portal:Japan, a collection of resources on Japan
 * Japan-related topics notice board, for notifying the community of topics of interest

Hope to see you there!

Best regards,

Fg2 10:15, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Akechi Hidemitsu
Hi Oda Mari,

Apparently, there were two different men with similar names. The famous man was Akechi Mitsuhide. He was the general of the army that killed Oda Nobunaga. The other man was Akechi Hidemitsu. He was a member of Mitsuhide's family. The Japanese Wikipedia has articles about both men. When you read one of those articles, you will find a box on the left under the toolbox; it says "in other languages." You can click the 日本語 link in that box to read the article in the Japanese Wikipedia.

I hope this helps. If you have more concerns, please ask me or put a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan. Lots of helpful people read Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan.

Thank you very much for helping with these articles!

Fg2 00:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Oops. It was really stupid of me. Ha-ha-ha. Please forgive me, Fg2. --Oda Mari 04:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

aru/iru
Are you asking which I, personally, would use or which are supposed to be "correct"? If the latter, you're the native speaker, so you tell me!

I would say 死体がある and 幽霊がいる. Do those correspond with your intuitions as a native? --RJCraig 15:16, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I just asked. よくできました. Then why did you and the other editor talked about that matter that long on the JGrammar talk page? The article is wonderful! But you know there are small mistakes in there. I wrote about it on Fg2's talk page. Will you please take a look at that? --Oda Mari 15:33, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi. Standard WP practice is to answer on the other person's talk page, but a lot of people ask that you keep the whole conversation on one or the other page; it's up to you, in other words, but if you prefer the latter way, you should make that clear to people. :)


 * I forget what the point of the aru/iru discussion was now. Animacy as a feature of Japanese nouns, maybe? It was all a matter of different theoretical perspectives, so there wasn't a lot of sense in continuing to argue it.


 * I'm not as wild about that article as some people. It relies too heavily on the traditional Japanese (kana-based = kana-limited) analysis of the language and thus, in my opinion, gives a skewed picture of the realities thereof.


 * The traditional analysis is brilliant as far as it goes (and it goes pretty far given the limitations of working only in kana), but it isn't completely "scientific" from the viewpoint of modern linguistic analysis. It makes sense that more advanced learners should be familiar with it as they move to textbooks and dictionaries used by native speakers, but I think it obscures the regularities of the system and makes it more difficult for beginners.


 * The point here, of course, is that Wikipedia is not primarily intended as a language learner's resource. The grammar page should indicate that it is based on the traditional Japanese view of the language, which may not be the most accurate one possible. --RJCraig 02:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Re. Sushi
Hello Oda. I've re-checked the external links on Sushi and removed one that added little useful information to the article, thus not complying to WP:EL. The others appear to be fine. As for http://sushi-master.com/usa/index1.html, although it does have some related info, I don't find it very suitable as an external link - too commercial with the sushi machine advertisements. Best regards, Hús  ö  nd  22:44, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Onigiri
I saw your message on 's page, and have sorted out the issue. For future reference, there's a small line, just below the article's title, that looks something like this: (Redirected from Onigiri) Clicking that link will take you back to the Onigiri page, and due to the "redirect=no" at the end, will allow you to modify the page despite the redirect. Jouster (  whisper  ) 08:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Board Candidacy
Hi! I'm leaving you this note because we've had extensive and/or productive interaction over the course of my time on this Wiki. I (yep, little ol' Jouster!) am running for election to the Wikimedia Board of Trustees. I would greatly appreciate it if you would please take a look at my submission of candidacy, and consider endorsing me, as that is a requirement for me to stand for election.

If you have any questions or concerns about this notice, please don't hesitate to poke me on my Talk page. If you object to this solicitation for endorsement, please do not hesitate to remove it from your Talk page with my apologies; it will not appear again.

I look forward to serving you all on the Board! Jouster (  whisper  ) 18:50, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Magnum Marine
Hi. You placed a PROD on the Magnum Marine article. The original authoer removed it, and a bunch of other tags. I'm assuming this means he wants to contest the deletion. I re-added the other cleanup tags but not the PROD. I've tagged the article as unreferenced to give it a chance for improvement. If you still think the article should be deleted, I suggest you nominate it through WP:AFD. Regards. -- Whpq 18:50, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Republic of China
You must be joking:. I don't see this as vandalism. It's more like a content dispute to me. I agree, the IP's other edit can be counted as vandalism, but stating in the edit summary that the edit to the Republic of China was vandalism is false. Please read the edits more carefully before you type out an edit summary. Try something like this next time: (rv. Please discuss with other editors on the talk page of this article before you make a controversial edit. Thank you.) or something like that; It's up to you. Regards, Nat Tang ta 18:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Wiggles
Hi Oda,

I noticed that you are relatively new here and reverted an edit by an anonymous editor with the note "RVV". This probably was not a case of vandalism, but rather a good faith but incorrect edit. The person who made the edit probably doesn't realize that Greg is gone and Sam is in and probably thought they were making a good edit. I mention this because when people revert "vandalism" on good faith edits, it can lead to edit wars. It assumes that the other editor was being disruptive, and puts the other editor on the defensive. Anyway, I mention this as a growing aid, not a criticism. Thanks for your help with Wikipedia.Balloonman 20:19, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm taking a look at the editors other edits... and you were correct afterall!!! By itself, I would not call those edits vandalism and would have assumed good faith.  But every other page the anonymous editor made today was vandalism!  So, if you knew about the other edits, then your edit summary would be ok.  The only difference is that I would have left more than "RVV" and left something like, "RVV---Anonymous account creatively vandalizing numerous pages."  That way people would know that the edits are part of a pattern of creative vandalism.  Creative vandalism is harder to spot because it looks innocent.Balloonman 20:30, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The way that you can check out an editor is to goto their talk page/main page. On the left hand of your browser you will see the "Search" box.  Below that search box are the buttons "Go" and "Search."  Below those buttons is another box labelled "toolbox."  The third link on the toolbox is "User contributions."  You can use that button to find out what edits the person has made.  You will then have two options to look at "dif" and "history."  The diff button will show you the changes the user made.  The history will show you the edit history of the article in question.  That way you can see if somebody made edits and whether or not those edits were reverted.Balloonman 20:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

RE: Sorry
Its not a problem, that happens to the best us(including me) -- Chris   G  12:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

About Wii
Hi Oda Mari, thank you for your comments on the Wii edit. I revert a lot of vandalism and although I try to be careful, sometimes good faith attempts like yours may mistakenly get identified as vandalism.

I checked your edit again and I realize now that you made a genuine mistake while trying to fix damage done by someone else. I apologize too for the word "vandalism" in my revert edit summary, I should have said "good faith". Best, --Kudret abi 20:39, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Oda, this is a perfect example of my point above ;-) Balloonman 00:27, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Oda, to follow up on your question on my talk page. I would exit the editor, see what edits have been made, and then respond from there.  The edit conflict is to ensure that mistakes like this don't occur.  No.  I don't think you are too careless to fight vandalism, if that is what you want to do.  You just have to get experience.  Everybody makes mistakes ;-)Balloonman 13:12, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

The Great Wave off Kanagawa
The procedure for changing the name is to re-upload the image with the new name. I went ahead and did that step, and a copy of the image is now available at Image:The Great Wave off Kanagawa.jpg. Now, the new name can be used. Though, keep in mind that the image is used on a lot of articles in English Wikipedia, as well as numerous other languages, still linking to Image:Tsunami by hokusai 19th century.jpg. If you go to the image page on Commons and click the "check usage" tab, you can see where the image is used. Those links need to be updated to use the new name. Once the old image is orphaned, then it can be deleted from Commons. --Aude (talk) 00:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot! Jfingers  88  02:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi. You changed the name of a featured picture. Transferring of FP and POTD templates should only be done after removing them from the original one and after having notified the FP community. Other wise these changes can cause a lot of confusion and will probably be reverted. In a genuine case (as this one seems to me) there should be no problem, after the proper steps are taken. (if you need more info or assistance, you know were you can find me on commons). Regards Lycaon 21:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for fixing that vandalism on my User page. ♦TH 1 RT 3 EN talk ♦ contribs 17:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Concerning Thomas The Tank Engine Annual Page
I just removed loads of nonsense from that page, and then you had to go and revert it. Now, judging by the comments on your page I see this wasn't malicious, just misguided. But please, do be acreful about doing such stuff next time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.124.5 (talk) 17:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

RE:Your opinion
Hmm yes, IMHO it should be Kantogun, but it'd be safest to get an opinion on the talkpage first. Миборовский 07:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello Oda Mari, I have searched a English newspaper database service roughly. As a result, although I have found some "Kwantung Army" as "関東軍" (i.e. "THE WAR OF WORDS BOOKS", Times of London, Sep 7th, 1989), but I could not find "Kanto gun" in it. And it seems to be used in some books.


 * In this case, "Kwantung" (Kantō) is derived from its organization's location. For example, if someone makes a new article about Japanese army which was commanded by Tomoyuki Yamashita in the Malay Peninsula, its article name will be "Malay (not 'Marē' マレー) Army (of Japan)". So present name has a appropriateness in a reason.


 * If you will propose for renaming, you need to think above-mentioned points. And article's discussion page (and WP:MIL) is suitable for proposing it. Sincerely Yours. --Nightshadow28 14:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Probabry, you need to use a phrase option for two words. For example, "Kanto gun" ( not Kanto gun ). --Nightshadow28 15:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Roger. --Nightshadow28 15:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC) (Living-kanji-bot)

Shimazu Nariakira
織田殿: I saw your revisions to Shimazu Nariakira, and I was wondering-- would you be interested in coming up with a new, totally revised article for him? I've talked to LordAmeth about this, and he does agree that it's a little too overly glowing, even in the present state, after I totally went through it end to end and fixed it grammatically. I don't know much about Nariakira, but I can easily get good resources on him. At any rate, 忝い. -Tadakuni 05:14, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Vandal fighting - warnings
I notice that you're reverting vandalism, but not issuing warnings. These can be found here; sometimes they work, sometimes they don't, but in the case of persistent vandals, admins look to see if warnings were properly issued before making blocks. Broken Sphere Msg me 17:07, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The Great Wave off Kanagawa
Seems to be complicated renaming this picture, since it is a featured picture. There are now some discussions at commons about this image:
 * commons:Commons:Featured_picture_candidates
 * commons:Commons:Featured_picture_candidates
 * commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Tsunami_by_hokusai_19th_century.jpg

I don't know enough about this image to judge on some of the questions people have about these, but your input may be helpful. --Aude (talk) 19:55, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Thanks
You're welcome, no problem at all :) --Kudret abi Talk 19:24, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

just to let you know
It's not vandalism for someone to remove warnings - in fact it demonstrates that they've seen them. &mdash; Timotab Timothy (not Timdagnabbit!) 14:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * yep, just leave it, but be aware of the fact when giving warnings. It's easy to tell the difference between a blanked page and an empty one - if the talk page for a vandal is blanked, check the history to see if any recent warnings were given. &mdash; Timotab Timothy (not Timdagnabbit!) 14:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

William Golding
That last edit you gave a warning for wasn't vandalism. DuncanHill 18:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * He corrected himself before you reverted - I suspect he had confused the birth & death months. Anyway, that IP address has done other vandalism previously, so no real harm done. DuncanHill 19:07, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * That's alright - I'm sure I've done the same myself sometimes! DuncanHill 19:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Revert
You are welcome. It was a pleasure.-- Sandahl 17:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Mickey Mouse
Look here mac, I wasn't vandalizing the Mickey Mouse page. I do have sources to back my claimsKevin j 18:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC).

White tiger
Just wanted to let you know that the IP has been making a good faith attempt to improve the article but they are new to this and didn't know how to make inline citations. I restored and cleaned them up, here. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:08, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem I figured that it was just an error. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 16:54, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism?
How and why would you consider my edits vandalism? If anything, they are less biased than what is constantly being enforced. Hispanicity is independent from race and should be recognized as such. Furthermore, what constitutes an "ethnic minority?"

In short, I've done nothing wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by M5891 (talk • contribs) 16:47, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Please explain this "lack of neutrality." M5891 20:09, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Oda,

I don't understand why my edits of Arabic, Japanese language and Japanese dialects would be considered vandalism. I simply added the comparisons between the two languages to show that both languages have multiple dialects, even within the countries that those languages are used. For example, Asslam o aleikum and Conichiwa are standard greetings in Arabic and Japanese, respectively, other differences, even within various dialects of either language, exist.

I'd like to contrast that with the vandalism of the Israel page, mostly by individuals expressing a hatred for the existence of the Jewish state. This is a hatred, I must say, that is shared by many governments of Muslim countries (see Foreign relations of Israel). As a result, Wikipedia allows editing of the page only by those members who have an account with English Wikipedia.

Hope this helps,

David, 06:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Scotland
I do not agree - please stop your repeaded unwarrented valdalism claims, or I will take action. Please read the comments others have made above and learn to distinguish discussed good faith edits to geniune vandalism. Thanks. --Jw2034 20:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Agree to disagree
I am willing to respect and better analyze your changes so long as you are willing to return the favor. I will also make the effort to provide rational reasons for my edits. Thank you. M5891 23:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Response
Hispanicity is independent from race since it spans across various races. Therefore, the second largest group on the table would be Black/African Americans. This is officially recognized by the U.S. Census and is therefore neutral.

I was originally the one who inserted "European Americans" in an earlier edit. I later realized that there are African Americans who possess European ancestry and thought that it would make more sense to say "Black Americans" to refer to those of indigenous Subsaharan ancestry. Then again, that is already assumed when one speaks of African Americans. Perhaps the term "European African American" would be appropriate for those of the former identity.

European, African, and Asian ancestries are included in the Hispanic ethnic group as they, along with indigenous American ancestry, can all be found throughout the Spanish-speaking nations. When I added "non-Hispanic," I meant for that to refer to those of the aforemetioned ancestries who are not of Hispanic ethnicity.

I'm actually against the demographic use of "Hispanic or non-Hispanic," but as long as it continues to exist, I would like to see ancestral diversity be well represented in both. I also don't like the terms "White" or "Black" since they were conceived during the slave trade era, yet I often find myself using them for convenience.

I hope that I've clarified my intentions and that you now have a better understanding of what I've been trying to get at. Thank you. M5891 21:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

f you look at the page, you can see that it repeats itself twice, that is why i deleted that much, look for yourself and read —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaga185 (talk • contribs) 08:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello Again
It's me from last night, the time travel guy. Just thought I would let you know I have reinstated the edits you reverted, with citations included next time. (Note: there was a typo in the URL I left you; the URL should read http://www.abc.net.au/science/slab/wormholes/default.htm instead). Apologies for bothering you again, but I like to do this so that I don't get in trouble when I shouldn't. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.134.111 (talk) 07:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Japanese cuisine
I see no need for the revert as placing the term midden into the article was out of context and does not fit into the sentence into which it was placed. The term midden is a modern term used by archaeologists and in the context used there it sounded like something the Japanese of the Jomon period purposefully created and called them middens. It just needs more explanation and a source that specifically calls them midden, otherwise WP:No original research comes into play. The other edits placed the rice context into its intended purpose as well. It is important to establish when and why a bias toward foreign rice occurred which is enabled by never brining in long-grain rice as per the author of the very well respected text I use for the citation. I have a second source that also verifies the claim by an anthropologist. Also the use of the term "sticky-rice" is repetitive as that is a quality of their short grain rice which is well known. So, I respectively request that you not revert the edit.--Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 19:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Katie Couric
This article has been under vandal attack today. I was trying to go back to the best version. I'm sorry if I went back to before your edit. Thanks for contributing to WP! Matthardingu (talk) 15:09, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

re: Japanese addressing system
Hi Oda Mari - Re this thread, I do know a fair amount about Japanese municipalities, mostly from work I've done originating with implementing the categorization system for them (basically the whole tree under Category:Settlements in Japan)) and then having stumbled across gappei in the process (updating the appropriate articles based on gappei is a very long term project I started about two years ago and haven't finished). I also created Template:Infobox Prefecture Japan and the navigational templates for prefectures of Japan and have had Tokyo on my watchlist for 3 years or so.  These contributions amount to thousands of edits and many hundreds of hours of work, but are not based on any pre-existing knowledge about Japan or Japanese municipalities (although in the process of doing this I've learned alot!). Looking at my contributions it's probably quite reasonable to assume I'm some sort of expert on Japanese municipalities - and, although I'm perhaps not a completely ignorant gaijin, I don't live there, have never even visited, and don't read or speak Japanese. This is what I meant by "absolutely no expertise". I've added Japanese addressing system to my watchlist and can help with copyedit sorts of tasks, but (quite literally) I don't know anything about the substance of the content (well, anything other than what I've now read in the article). -- Rick Block (talk) 15:16, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Your (excellent) English is far better than my (non-existent) Japanese. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Tetsuji Takechi
Hi, Oda Mari. Thank you very much for looking in at the Takechi article. I had seen the cause of death as pancreatic cancer somewhere... maybe at the Japanese Wiki article?... but could not find a source for the cause of death. Do you have one? In my usual area of editing-- erotic cinema-- I try to source every little fact, because these subjects seem to come up for dispute/deletion often. Thanks again, and happy editing! Dekkappai (talk) 19:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Right! I should have looked-- It's right there in the source for his date of death! I'll add that to the quote citation, since it's in Japanese, to help other editors verify it. Many thanks. Cheers! Dekkappai (talk) 19:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Refdesk
Thanks for fixing my katakana mistake! -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 14:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Hanaji
Corrected - See Domo-kun :) WhisperToMe (talk) 09:34, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you :) WhisperToMe 07:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: モヤツ
One character is talking about a two other characters who he knows. No romantic elements really, more stalker-ish... lol. Here's the sentance: 心にモヤツと霧がかかるような. . . なんだろ？ Looking over it again, maybe its like some sort of sound effect? That's one thing I didn't check.. I appreciate the reply! Zemalia 15:27, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:Twinkle
In case you don't know already, WP:TW is a useful tool for fighting vandalism. –panda 18:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I personally use WP:TW since it's very easy to use. Once you've installed it, when you look at the latest diff, you'll get a few extra options to revert edits, one of which is "rollback vandal" that removes all of the edits an editor has made in an uninterrupted sequence and automatically opens up the vandal's talk page so that you can leave a warning message.  You'll also get some new tabs at the top of the page, one of which is "warn", that allows you to pick from a set of standard warning templates.  Just follow the instructions for how to install it in your monobook.js, refresh your browser, and start using away.  If refreshing doesn't work, try restarting your browser.  If you have any specific questions about TW, feel free to ask.  (You can also reply here as I'm watching your talk page.)  –panda 19:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the prompt reply. I'm not sure if I could master the tool but I'll try. Maybe tomorrow. I'm leaving WP now. Oda Mari (talk) 19:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow! I think I can master the tool. But I've got a question. What are the differences among these three? [rollback (AGF)] || [rollback] || [rollback (VANDAL)]. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 17:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * rollback (AGF): AGF = assume good faith. Use that one when you believe the edit was made in good faith but is actually erroneous.  The edit summary will contain something along the lines of "rollback good faith edit by XXXX: your explanation"
 * rollback: simply rollback without any pre-text added to the edit summary
 * rollback (VANDAL): edit summary will say "Revert n edits by XXX identified as vandalism to last revision by YYY. using TW". It will also automatically pop-up the offending editor's talk page so that you can post a warning message.  (Then you use the "warn" tab at the top of the page to select the appropriate message.)
 * Someone should update the docs for TW since this wasn't explained when I was trying to figure out what the three were. –panda 17:33, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * p.s. One word of caution.  Don't use TW in a content dispute to edit war.  That's very strongly frowned upon.  –panda 17:35, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the reply. I take the rollback (AGF) and the rollback rollback one edit and the rollback (VANDAL) rollbacks all the edits by XXX. Am I right? And I will use Twinkie only when I RC watch. Oda Mari (talk) 17:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * All of the rollbacks will remove all of the edits by XXX (rollback the page to the previous editor's version). So if you only want to remove one edit, you should do it the normal way with "undo".  Have fun fighting vandalism!  –panda 18:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

HELP with Japanese
Hi, can you help settle a petty edit war over at Mare (horse)? The spat is over the following sentence in the "Etymology" section: "Interestingly, in many East Asian languages, the word for "horse" sounds very similar to "mare", such as the Korean 말 (mar),[9] Chinese ma,[citation needed] and Japanese uma.[citation needed]"

Essentially, I didn't create this, but it is a rather intriguing homophonic parallel and fun to keep in the article. However, another user thinks it's "original research" and keeps blanking it. I see no reason to blank it and would like to source it instead. Babelfish showed that the Korean character is correct (and I assume whoever added this knew how to pronounce the word). Thus, could you kindly consider adding the Japanese character for Uma to the article, perhaps with some source that verifies that "this is the character for "horse" which in Japanese is pronounced "uma"?? If you can't that's OK, but I'd hate to toss something verifiable. Many thanks.  Also if you know folks fluent in Korean or Chinese, can you tip them off to this, also?  Montanabw (talk) 20:53, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt in here uninvited, but about the Korean: I believe the more standard way to Romanize "말" is mal. As to the similarity with the English "mare", my gut-feeling is that it's just a coincidence, though an interesting one. If you can provide a source that backs up the connection, by all means, do. If not, then it probably is original reseach. Dekkappai (talk) 22:51, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I am a native Japanese, you know. Yes, 馬 is the correct kanji for horse in Japanese and the pronunciation is 'uma' as in Uma Thurman, not 'you-ma'. That being a Japanese is not good enough? Do I have to provide a source? As for Korean and Chinese, why  don't you ask on WikiProject talk:Korea and WikiProject talk:China? But as Dekkappai posted above, I think the similarity is just a coincidence. FYI, mare is 雌馬/mesu-uma or 牝馬/hinba in Japanese. Oda Mari (talk) 09:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I really don't think it needs sourcing either, personally, but the section was getting blanked by another user who had not previously edited the article and was screaming "original research."  I agree that it is probably coincidence, but it makes for rather fun trivia and I didn't see any harm to leaving it in.  After all, they also explain that the Latin "Mare", meaning "sea" is different.  I can't make the characters appear in an article, they just are little blank squares when I copy and paste, would you be so kind as to add the characters for "mesu-uma" to the article??   Montanabw (talk) 18:12, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd like to know where to add? After the Japanese 馬? Then I'd add the word. Out of curiosity, from where did you try to copy and paste? I thought it would be OK from the edit page. Oda Mari (talk) 18:22, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Koreans in Japan
It is a big difference between Koreans and Japanese regarding the term or nationalization. Korean consider Koreans living in US only holding with green card as "Korean American" not Koreans living in US". Even if people who were originally born in Korea nationalize to US citizen, Koreans still think them as "Koreans". Korea government doesn't permit double nationality like Japan and China. The latter example might be overlapped with Japanese.

I want to ask why you didn't you put "Zainichi" to all of ethnic groups. I know the Zainichi is almost used for Koreans in Japan. Japanese usually don't call Chinese "Zainichi". Koreans knows that term is somewhat discriminative and has an insulting meanings because it literally means "residing in Japan" and has as a hidden meaning, "Leave Japan and go your home soon!". I show you why I' couldn't help being sensitive to the term like this Talk:Lee_Myung-bak Your people has been so funny to tag the irrelevant category "Zainich Koreans" to the great Korean figure who was born and lived for only 3 years in Japan and left for good with his parents. Seemingly Chinese name editor but obviously Japanese per his history (a possible sock) said the wonderful comments. '''Zainichi is a Zainichi, wherever you go. --Yuan.C.Lee 15:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)''' Isn't it like whenever Western people discriminate Jews. Oh, well, already your friend reverted to what he wants as always creating and tagging false and biased category to Korea related articles like this without any reference but originally including "anti-sentiment" Assumed that the cultures were really influenced by Japanese, it holds "anti-Japanese sentiment, why Korean accept some of Japanese things?. Just absurd. Anyways, good luck for your works--Appletrees (talk) 19:17, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Teramachi Street
Could you please insert the kanji for Teramachi-dori, like you did with Nishiki Market? Thank you! --C S (talk) 22:23, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Somebody did it. Oda Mari (talk) 07:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Need your help
Re your message: It's been taken care of. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 08:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem. =) Thanks for bringing it to my attention.  That was an interesting vandal.  I've never seen anybody try to stick in a false block notice with a pile of vulgarities. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 08:22, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

User:Naes193
No problem. I decided, after reviewing his/her contribs, that it was a vandal account and needed to be indefinitely blocked (although the very first edit looks like an attempt to do something legit). Daniel Case (talk) 15:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Correction
Thanks for the correction! I'm a bit embarrassed that I made the mistake because I'm a student of Japanese and I usually get vowel length correct. I guess that was one of the few times that my memory was faulty, but it's odd that it happened with a word that I should already be well familiar with! If you see me make a silly blunder like that one again, don't hesitate to let me know. :) ありがとう！ - furrykef (Talk at me) 16:58, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

1695 coins
You asked a reasonable question at User talk:Nik42. As it happens, I'm the one who should have the quick answer ready-to-hand. I'm very certain that I'm the one who posted this so-called "fact" -- but when I checked the citation just now, there was nothing there at all. I'd feel a bit more embarrassed if I understood it better. Give me some time to check this out further. I'm sure I didn't make this up out of whole cloth. I'm quite mystified. Oops?
 * (cur) (last) 22:03, 11 July 2007 Ooperhoofd (Talk | contribs) m (35,261 bytes) (1695 -- Tokugawa era coins stamped with (元), meaning "yuan") (undo)

I remember being very careful about this particular edit. I do seem to remember double-checking this fact somehow; but, unless I can resolve this right away, I guess I have no alternative other than to delete the sentence til I can sort it out. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 22:11, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Aha -- Happily, I have an explanation for my awkward confusion. I do stand by the sentence I posted in July.  The data is reliable and the citation is accurate; and the reference source is at page 415 of a readily accessible, digitized on-line book:
 * Titsingh, Isaac, ed. (1834). [Siyun-sai Rin-siyo/Hayashi Gahō (1652)], Nipon o daï itsi ran; ou, Annales des empereurs du Japon, tr. par M. Isaac Titsingh avec l'aide de plusieurs interprètes attachés au comptoir hollandais de Nangasaki; ouvrage re., complété et cor. sur l'original japonais-chinois, accompagné de notes et précédé d'un Aperçu d'histoire mythologique du Japon, par M. J. Klaproth. Paris: Oriental Translation Fund of Great Britain and Ireland.--Two copies of this rare book have now been made available online: (1) from the library of the University of Michigan, digitized January 30, 2007; and (2) from the library of Stanford University, digitized June 23, 2006.  Click here to read the original text in French. <<--Link needs to be fixed
 * But there was a very small glitch in the digitizing of the Stanford University copy of this book -- page 415 is missing; ergo, my confusion earlier today. The link in the citation above (and in most other citations) brings up the wrong copy of the book -- wrong only in the sense that there is no digitized page 415.  My next step will be to fix the link; but there is no good reason to delay bringing both you and Nik42 up to speed.  Expressed differently, I just want to do what I can so that we can all be on the same page .... --Ooperhoofd (talk) 02:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the reply. I found something. 1695 is a year in Genroku/元禄 era and the character 元 placed was a name of the era, not the currency name and the coin was Genroku gold coins, not copper coins. You know historical Japanese coins bear their era name, don't you? I found an essay in Japanese says the 元 is placed on the back of Genroku koban to show its issued era name. It's difficult to see the character but here's the images of the koban near the bottom of the page, though it's a forged one. And this is the essay I found in the Bank of Japan official site. Even if Titsingh's book says so, there's a possibility that he might mistranslate Japanese. Do you know where on the web can I see the original text? If I could, I think everything is going to be clear. Oda Mari (talk) 07:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Oda Mari -- Thank you for your follow-through. I do hope this Nihon Odai Ichiran citation turns out to be accurate; but regardless, I'm encouraged by this exercise. I would have thought that this is precisely the sort of collaborative investigation that one would hope to see happening more frequently in this innovative Wikipedia venue....Click this link for digitized copy of page 415 from rare book in the collection of the University of Michigan
 * If this Google Book Search-link doesn't work well enough, please do let me know.
 * I suppose it might possibly help to read similar text from Higashiyama:
 * Genroku 8, le 8 -ieme jour de la 2 -ieme lune (22 mars 1695): Il y eut un grand incendie à Edo; et dans le même année, on placa sur le revers des monnaies de cuivre le caratère 元 (ghen ou yuan en chinois, signification "rond, arrondi").<.ref>Titsingh, p. 415. [Tsuchihashi: 22.3.1695 (jeudi)/元禄八年二月八日]<./ref>
 * Translation: French/English: Genroku 8, the 8th day of the 2nd moon (March 22, 1695): There was a great fire at Edo; and in the same year, the character 元 (ghen or yuan in Chinese, signifying "round or rounded") was placed on the obverse of copper coins.<.ref>Titsingh, p. 415. [Tsuchihashi: 22.3.1695 (Thursday)/元禄八年二月八日]<./ref>
 * Note also -- en:Copper = Cuivre = 銅
 * Another factor which may be interesting here is that, as you can see for yourself on the digitized image of that printed page from 1834, the Titsingh translation of Nihon Ōdai Ichiran conventionally presents each pre-Hepburn transliterations of Japanese followed immediately by a cognate transliteration in Chinese.
 * I'm no numimatics expert, but I didn't construe Gen/元 to have anything to do with Genroku/元禄. In order to help clarify this point, perhaps it will help to examine another relevant sentence....Click this link for digitized copy of page 417 from rare book in the collection of the University of Michigan
 * Compare the image of the 1834 printed page to what is presented in Nakamikao:
 * Kyōhō 7 (1720): On mit hors de circulation les monnaies de cuivre qui portaient l'inscription de 元宝 (genhō), signification « monnaie arrondi ».<.ref>C'est a dire: 元 + [(缶 + 宀 + 玉 + 貝 = 寶) = 宝 ] = 元宝 .  Le deuxième caractère est un variant ancien de 宝. -- Titsingh, p. 417.<./ref>
 * Translation: French/English: Kyōhō 7 (1720): Copper coins were put into circulation, each coin bearing the inscription 元宝 (genhō), signifying "round money."<.ref>That is to say: 元 + [(缶 + 宀  + 玉 + 貝 = 寶) = 宝 ] = 元宝 .  The second character is an ancient variant of 宝. -- Titsingh, p. 417.<./ref>
 * This may yet be found wrong in some way (of course), but the underlying reasoning was at least plausible? No? In any event, I want to take this opportunity to acknowledge your help in improving the French Wikipedia.  If I've posted an erroneous "fact" here in the English Wikipedia, it will have metastasized across Wikipedias in languages other than French as well.--Ooperhoofd (talk) 15:54, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Oda Mari, I'm not familiar with any copper coins with the gen (元) character on the obverse that were issued by the shogunate in 1695 either, and none of my catalogs lists one. It was interesting to see how the threads have progressed. :)


 * As mentioned by Nik42, there is indeed a bronze Kanei-Tsuuhou　(寛永通宝) coin that features a "gen" as a mintmark on the reverse. This indicates an Osaka mint issue of 1741. However, this is a minor variety among many and not actually a coin type like the Kanei-Tsuuhou or Bunkyuu-Eihou. The following coins from the 17th century contain the character "gen" in the name: Genpou-Tsuuhou (元豊通宝)　was issued by Nagasaki merchants at the behest of the Dutch as trade money in 1659. However, this was not a shogunate release that circulated in Japan, and it was merely a copy of the Chinese Yuanfeng-Tongbao. Genna-Tsuuhou (元和通宝) was issued in 1617. There is debate as to whether it was an official release, but it was issued before standardization of coinage in 1668.


 * None of the coins listed above match the 1695 date, and only the Kanei-Tsuuhou is an undisputed shogunate release. Since the 1695 date is during the Genroku (元禄) period, I agree with you that the "gen" mark is probably a reference to the gold koban (小判) and also silver chougin (丁銀) coins that were minted at this time. I'm inclined to think that the Annales was actually referring to these coins and that "copper" is an error. Buu (talk) 07:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


 * In response to the convincing tone of argument in User:Buu's comments and in acknowledgment of User:Oda Mari's credible criticism, I did move the questionable text to Talk:Japanese yen/Archives/2012.  But I'm of two minds here.  Almost immediately afterwards, I re-posted two of the three sentences:
 * En literally means "round object" in Japanese, as yuan does in Chinese, referring to the ancient Chinese coins that were circular in shape and widely used in Japan up to the Tokugawa Period. In 1695, the character 元 (ghen), signifying "round or rounded") was placed on the obverse of copper coins.
 * Does this present a problem for you? If so, what would propose as a better strategy for the near term?


 * See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan
 * See corollary thread at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numismatics


 * What do you think? --Ooperhoofd (talk) 18:58, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I replied on Talk:Japanese yen page. Oda Mari (talk) 19:07, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism revert
I wish to thank you for reverting a vandalism on my user page. --Arny (talk) 18:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. Wish you a happy new editing year! Oda Mari (talk) 15:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Kazemake
Thank you so much for your kind offer of help! What sort of information do you need? I may not be able to get it, but I will try. Chris (クリス) (talk) 20:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I so appreciate you most kind offer of assistance, I do not know what I can provide that would be of any help. Thank you for your offer, though! Domo arigato! Chris (クリス) (talk) 04:10, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism.
Yeah, I ran into the vandal and reverted all of his edits... kind of funny though. :P · AndonicO  Hail!  18:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Japanese adult stars
Hi Oda Mari. I first began working regularly at Wikipedia when I noticed articles on several very prominent Japanese adult stars nominated for deletion on notability concerns. I was able to work on many of these articles and improve them, but now again some of these subjects are being nominated for deletion because of lack of proof of notability. I know, from my stays in Japan, that these celebrities do have high visibility in mainstream TV and media appearances, etc., but it is very difficult for us editors who are not in Japan now to find proof for this kind of notability. Also, there is also some bias towards American subjects because of a heavy reliance on things like appearance in U.S. Playboy, or awards as proof of notability (the Japanese industry, as far as I know, does not give out awards nearly as often as in the U.S.), etc. As a Japanese editor, perhaps you have some ideas where I could look for sourcing, news, and especially awards for these types of celebrities? Any help you can offer will be very much appreciated. Happy editing and Happy New Year! Dekkappai (talk) 19:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way-- I realize this is a touchy subject which many find offensive. I certainly don't mean to offend with my request. So if you don't want to respond to the request, no problem. Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 00:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for trying, Oda Mari, I really appreciate it! What would really help, I think, is if I could find Japanese adult industry awards... Once in a while I find that some performer has won some adult award (for example, Yua Aida won the "Japanese adult grand prix actress award for the year of 2005", and Sora Aoi won an award at this ceremony in 2003) but then I can't find anything about the history of the award, who won in other years? Who won other awards at the ceremony? etc... Also, it appears to be a recent award, so it wouldn't help with the articles on older performers. I do find occasional mentions of awards given during the Nikkatsu roman porno days, in the '70s, which would be useful for articles on actresses and directors of that era, but again, nothing beyond just one mention... Very frustrating... Anyway, thank you for trying to help, and let me know if you come across any information. Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 17:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Great-- I think that will help with some articles... I'll research this award and do the web searching when I'm at a computer where I'm free to do such research ;) Many thanks for the help! Dekkappai (talk) 18:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Unreferenced
Hi. My small changes were constructive. By the way, most of what you guys wrote remains unreferenced. LeeCorrie (talk) 19:07, 4 January 2008 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LeeCorrie"

Thank You Oda Mari
Thank you ODa Mari, I truly appreciate your good faith comments. And no, I would never engage myself in vandalism. What I think we should do is provide more sources to our Japanese related articles. For example, take a look at this article: Japanese Culture - we need to provide more sources there. Here is an example, quote: "The flowing, brush-drawn Japanese language lends itself to complicated calligraphy. Calligraphic art is often too esoteric for Western audiences and therefore general exposure is very limited. However in East Asian countries, the rendering of text itself is seen as a traditional artform as well as a means of conveying written information." Now, where is the source of this information? We need to do a better job and we can. Japanese culture is beautiful, and we do have plenty of sources; we just need to take more active role on improving and enriching our articles. LeeCorrie (talk) 17:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Hirohito
An RFC on content you have commented on has opened, comments are welcome.  MBisanz  talk 01:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for de-vandalizing & translation help
Hi, Oda Mari. Thanks for removing that from my talk page-- we seem to have a crusader against particular articles at work... Anyway-- at that article, I have listed a TV-Asahi show in which the actress appeared. The Japaese title is アンナさんのおまめ-- I translated it as "Dedicated to Anna." Is this an accurate translation, do you think? Thaks again, and happy editing! Dekkappai (talk) 16:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Hmm... I'm not sure what an accurate translation would be then... Maybe I should just leave the Japanese title only Romanization? Dekkappai (talk) 17:18, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * OK-- I've changed it to "Anna no omame (アンナさんのおまめ)" just to be safe. Thanks again for the help! Dekkappai (talk) 17:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If it's a somewhat risque show (like Sex in the City), it may be a less common way to refer to a clitoris (I've picked up all sorts of weird trivia related to Japanese over the years). The clitoris is sometimes called "mame" in slang due to its shape (looks something like a bean). Now back to your regular scheduled discussion. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Another Japanese horse breed article
Can you peek at Miyako Pony for a review of info? Thanks! Montanabw (talk) 07:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I did what I could do right now. I've got to go. I'll try to find something for expansion when I have time. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 07:38, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Heinrich Hertz
Please consider re-visiting Talk:Heinrich Hertz. I'd be interested in your feedback about the suggested edit strategy I've proposed. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 15:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

You reverted my change to Engrish. If you do not know, Engrish is more widely used in everyday talk rather than just anime or manga. If an example is needed, look at Konglish (Korean-English). Words like "Thank you." or "Nice catch!" are phrases that Asian people (usually younger ones) use. It's not only based around anime or manga. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DTSX (talk • contribs) 02:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Hiragana
Hi, I just saw your message. What you say certainly makes sense. However, according to [|here], sorting by 2 letter language code has more votes. While I'm not saying you're wrong, but do you know where I can go to get this issue resolved? Hanfresco (talk) 03:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I certainly feel the one most voted on should be used. I'll let you know if I find out more about it. Thanks for replying! Hanfresco (talk) 05:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey there, I was pointed to WP:IL, it reads The link tags should be sorted alphabetically based on the local names of the languages, as described at m:Interwiki sorting order. The vast majority of articles are currently sorted this way. Sorting alphabetically according to the two-letter language abbreviations is also acceptable. There are numerous other sorting methods to sort interlanguage links, but consistency between articles is encouraged. Hanfresco (talk) 19:32, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

About edition of Kitasato Shibasaburo
About User_talk:Plindenbaum: Hi, I changed the birth date of Kitasato Shibasaburo from 1853 to 1852 because it is defined at the bottom of the page as "Category:1852 births". Which one is wrong ? Best Regards --Plindenbaum (talk) 22:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Category. Oda Mari (talk) 16:15, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Gembutsu
Nice work on Gembutsu. Kingturtle (talk) 17:23, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

User talk:204.171.48.66
Already blocked by User:AndonicO, thanks for the report anyway ;-)  Snowolf How can I help? 19:14, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: User talk:Wayneli960831
Hi! I saw your name on the recent change page minutes ago. Please block the user. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 05:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for the note.



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Japanese question
Hi, Oda Mari. How have you been? I'm trying to start an article on the Japanese actress Maeda Michiko (前田　通子), and found a pretty good little biography HERE. It's in Japanese, with a not-too-good English translation. One phrase I can't understand in either English or Japanese is, 'while taking the "Konpirariseiken"' (Japanese: "『金比羅利生剣』の撮影中"). Do you know what this means? And how to put it in English? Is it, maybe the title of a movie? ("While filming...") Thanks! Dekkappai (talk) 19:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! That information will help with the article. Happy editing to you too, Oda Mari. Dekkappai (talk) 17:26, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Re:TLC
Good Ahead, TLC can also be consired a hip-hop group, Left-Eye was the Hip-Hop part. QuasyBoy 1:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No Problem.:) QuasyBoy 16:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Hentaigana
Hentaigana aren't included in Unicode, but if/when they are, they'll use Hira for their ISO 15924 code. --Ptcamn (talk) 17:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hira is the ISO 15924 code for the hiragana script as a whole. --Ptcamn (talk) 17:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Hentaigana are a subset of kana as a whole, not just hiragana. There are both hentai hiragana and hentai katakana. They are not encoded in any JIS or Unicode standards yet; however, that is beside the fact as there are occasional Latin and other Han characters (kanji) etc which are not yet encoded either. I am a member of the Unicode consortium and we have talked a little about encoding hentaigana before. The only reason that they are not yet encoded is because no one has put together a proposal yet. A few years ago I prepared an informal list of needed code points, but have not yet formally submitted it for review. As for ISO 15924, Hrkt would be more appropriate. The script is already encoded, just not all of it. As such, it is not appropriate to add it to Category:Scripts without ISO 15924 code. Bendono (talk) 23:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Nanori
The definition of なのり can be found in JW Breen's EDICT as follows: 名乗り	【なのり】	(n,vs) (1) name readings of kanji, (2) self-introduction, (3) announcement of candidature, (P)

Hopefully this helps. -- EmperorBMA|&#35441;&#12377; 03:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

UserBlock: IP=70.90.247.110
Hi, I was just looking at a recent revision you did to an article done by the above address, and was wondering if you had any say in getting a longer-term block against the IP. As far as I can tell from the logs, that IP address has created about 50 pieces of vandalism over the past six months, and not one constructive edit. Any thoughts? Insightfill (talk) 14:33, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandlism on Fur article
Thanks for your feedback. Can you explain how my addition qualifies as "vandalism"?

17:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)17:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Yoshinori Futara
I think your changes are great, thank you so much! Is there a corresponding Japanese article? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 21:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Please give the opinion
The relation between imperial household and Baekjae of Japan is being discussed. I hope for your opinion. --Princesunta (talk) 10:23, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Re-Revert vandalism

 * You are most welcome. The edit on your talk page was flagged by Huggle, so I reverted it. Unfortunately, my talk page has been vandalised alot recently. But a few people are watching it now for me, which is nice of them :) Regards, Steve Crossin (talk) 17:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

鬼
Thank you so much for the reference on the oni kanji. Outstanding and much appreciated! I recently found the original Chinese character that does not have the horn either, meaning "god of the dead". A very interesting subject to say the least! Much appreciated! -R Mekugi (talk) 14:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. Happy that I could help. Oda Mari (talk) 14:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi you "Reverted" an edit of mine - could you clarify which and why? The Geologist (talk) 15:14, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I just got some notifications about my vandalizing some articles, (specifically, the Brunswick Manifesto (1792) and Tea House) although I've never even seen those articles before, much less edit them. Is someone else using the same IP adress as me (is that even possible?) or did the wiki mess something up, or is something wrong with my computer that I should worry about? Some clarification would be great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.73.125.141 (talk) 00:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Someone using your IP did in fact vandalize Wikipedia. The edits can be found at this link. I see you're using a DSL provider; such internet services are usually dynamic, which means your IP will change from time to time, and you will often be using an IP that someone else has used previously. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:38, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

日本語
こんにちは、Oda Mari

Can you help me learn Japanese?

Books and videos and other learning aids are not working for me, so somebody who speaks Nihongo is my last resort.

ありがとう、i123Pie bio 12:58, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry that it takes long to answer. I've been busy and didn't come here for a while. I've just saw your message. How can I help you? I'd like to know more. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 09:33, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I wish to express my gratitude for your advice.
I wish to express my gratitude for the comment of you of Talk:Imperial House of Japan. And, please help me again. I use poor English. Therefore, I do not understand the reason why Appletrees gets excited. Could you concisely explain his insistence? Because his rebuttal is complex, I do not understand. --Princesunta (talk) 11:13, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

SS Kiche Maru
Hi Mari,

I've nominated SS Kiche Maru for deletion. Whether you want to keep it or delete it, your contributions will be welcome at Articles for deletion/SS Kiche Maru.

Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 22:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Fg2, belatedly I commented on the AfD page. Best regards. Oda Mari (talk) 13:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Kombu
Hi! I have been looking at the kombu article and I had changed a preposition. I would if I could suggest an alternative proposition in the copyedit you recently made? Rather that "A strip of dried kombu is often boiled from water for a soup stock" possibly "A strip of dried kombu is often boiled in water for a soup stock"? Thanks! jmcw (talk) 07:35, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I hope I have described the cooking correctly: I am a beginner cook. jmcw (talk) 10:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Friction
I am not used to being accused of vandalism for deleting an article which had clearly been vandalised by another! The title had been changed illicitly, and I had to delete the guide to friction and restore the original article.Peterlewis (talk) 15:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Akiyama Saneyuki
Hello Oda Mari: Please note that Akiyama Saneyuki was born in the year Keio 4, and therefore per WP:MOS-JA for people born before the first year of Meiji, his name should always be given in the traditional order of Family name, Given name. Even though Keio 4 = Meiji 1, the Meiji period did not officialy begin until October, whereas Akiyama was born in April. I believe that your re-direct should be reverted. --MChew (talk) 16:24, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Bob Schaffer
You might want to keep an eye on Bob Schaffer. A user's sole purpose on wikipedia seems to be downplaying criticism of one canidate and playing up criticism of his opponent. I informed the user on his talk about his error in using unreliable sources, but s/he seems not to care. Paper45tee (talk) 16:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Mark Udall
Political activists are using a bogus "Election Controversies" section to attack Bob Schaffer with accusations by activist groups which oppose him. Accusations of that sort are not proper content on Wikipedia, in my view. Furthermore, the same activists (I believe) continue to delete an parallel section which I create on the Wikipedia page for Mark Udall even though the two points I note are proven fact, not just accusations. Either the "Election Controversies" section on Schaffer's page should be deleted, or it must be made accurate rather than used as propaganda, and if it is allowed to exist then the same section must be allowed to exist on the Mark Udall page. Rossputin (talk) 05:35, 25 April 2008 (Mountain Time)

Culture of Japan
I did not know your revision until I reverted the edit by likely a sock of User:Azukimonaka. If you think the intro inserted by Globalscene weights undue, you can implement or revert it because I know that you're a fair contributor unlike that kind of the disruptive sockpuppeter :User:Azukimonaka, User:KoreanShoriSenyou, User:Orchis29 (all same sock). Regards. --Appletrees (talk) 15:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Do not remove AfD tag
Please do not remove the tag for the on-going AfD discussion regarding List of English words of Japanese origin. The discussion is already in progress and should be allowed to run its course. Thank you. Ecoleetage (talk) 17:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It is not a problem. It appears the article is going to be maintained, so all will end well.  Cheers! Ecoleetage (talk) 16:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Hi, glad to see that things were handled. Just curious though, where did you see my name? An "RC" page? --Elonka 16:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Blocked, thanks for the help. :) You may also wish to post these reports at WP:AIV, since many admins routinely watch that page, and you can often get a faster response. --Elonka 16:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandal
Hi, the same user has done it again: User talk:Miffyandfrends. TONY  (talk)  10:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Mis-identified vandalism
Hi-

I don't think the edits you reverted here (to Sirius) are vandalism. I would suggest that an apology to that IP might be appropriate. ASHill (talk | contribs) 15:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Mistake in labelling page blanking as vandalism
Please remove your vandalism warning from User talk:Lordinajamjar. As the author of an article which had been criticized for lack of sources, he is entitled to blank it and under WP:CSD that constitutes a speedy deletion request. As a result, I speedily deleted it. Thanks. Edison (talk) 16:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your vandal patrolling. Edison (talk) 16:49, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Question on an old, obscure Japanese film
Hi, Oda Mari. I hope things have been going well with you. I have a confusing situation on an old, obscure Japanese movie which was recently released on DVD in the U.S. Here is Amazon's description of it. It's a 1965 "pink film" titled Bite and directed by Mukai Hiroshi (向井寛) aka Mukai Kan. The actors in the film are listed as Michiko Shiroyami, Senjo Ichiriki, Machiko Matsumoto, Keisuke Senda, and Natsue Hanaha. I don't have the DVD (yet), so I can't tell what the Japanese title actually is. Here is Mukai's filmography at JMDB, and I see nothing from 1965 that matches this title. I do see a film from August 1966, here titled "餌" (Bait?). The cast listed is 一力仙城 (Ichiriki Senjo?), 　 松本真知子 (Matsumoto Machiko?) and 城山路子 (Shiroyama [not Shiroyami, as Amazon says] Michiko?). What do you think? Is Amazon's year wrong, and the U.S. DVD mis-titled as Bite instead of Bait? I won't be starting an article on it until/if I get the DVD, but as always, any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Dekkappai (talk) 21:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Oda Mari. I must admit, I find these old, obscure, but notable Japanese (and Korean) things to be fascinating. The more hard-to-research, the better! It's like solving a puzzle... Anyway, thank you for that profile on Mukai-- that will definitely help with an article on the director, and give a clue for an article on that film, if I decide to start one. Happy editing, and cheers! Dekkappai (talk) 15:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Stradivarius
absolutely! the second link you provided is an excellent source. cheers! --emerson7 17:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Support
Please show your support. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Japanese_Supercar —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spell123 (talk • contribs) 08:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for the speedy revert of the vandalism to my user page! --Kralizec! (talk) 13:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

You're very welcome
I am certain you would have done the same for me, had it been the other way around. Addionne (talk) 14:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Will Young discography
Not vandalism. Read the edit comment: '''Entire article was duplicated inside a table - fixed that. No other changes.''' Maybe compare the original to the edit before accusing someone of vandalism?????? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.25.253.194 (talk) 06:54, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Mis-identification as vandalism
While the anonymous edit to “Goat” that you reverted lacked a “reliable source” and was too informally written, it did not read like vandalism, and googling shows that its assertion at least corresponds to folk wisdom amongst goat owners. It is important to assume good faith except when that assumption flies in the face of the evidence. —SlamDiego&#8592;T 15:48, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Userpage protection
I've protected your userpage for 2 weeks. Hope you don't mind. :) Rudget   ( logs ) 18:17, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Educate yourself
What I mean by that is that you should learn what a word means before you use it, in this case vandalism. Don't call edits for vandalism unless they are cleary attempts on sabotage. Hipporoo (talk) 22:26, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Controversy
Oda Mari -- As I gain more experience with Wikipedia, I find that I'm pleased and a little amazed that I've managed to avoid some of the kinds of intractable problems which are illustrated by the comparatively slim postings I see on your talk page today. This is just as well, because I've been sorely pressed and a bit overwhelmed dealing with the comparatively modest disputes I've been otherwise unable to avert. In that grey context, I just wanted to remind you that I consider our "disputes" as exemplars of something good, something which worked quite well.

There is nothing much for you to remember here; and these were very small matters: You persuaded me to withdraw a misinterpreted citation about the 1707 eruption of Fuji; and you persuaded me to withdraw a tenuous citation having to do with coins minted in 1695. Frankly, I'd be unsurprised if you remember none of this ....

When I feel forced to deal with an argument I can't otherwise avert, my knee-jerk response is to think of Oda Mari. In my experience, a difference of opinion in which you're a part is likely to result in a sense that I've been enriched by the experience, even in circumstances when my view ultimately proves untenable. I find myself puzzling over how that happened ....

It crossed my mind today that it would be a good idea to remind you of a trivial exchange which you've doubtless forgotten. Something turned out better than it might, and I credit you with that constructive outcome. Thank you. --Tenmei (talk) 23:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Shari
Hello! I'm new at editing Wikipedia and I was wondering why you reverted my last edit. Shari is not slang--it is another name for sushi meshi, or sushi rice. Google it! If there is a reason I shouldn't have added it, please let me know. Thanks! Shari.alaina (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:02, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

oh! thanks for explaining. :) Shari.alaina (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Calvin College and Theological Seminary
This page needs to be deleted. There are separate articles already for Calvin College and Calvin Theological Seminary. There is no content for this page and a Wikipedia note that it is orphaned. Worse yet, it is geocoded to a location that is not the campus for Calvin College or Calvin Theological Seminary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.106.118.6 (talk) 16:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Mis-identified Vandalism
Hello. You called this vandalism, but it doesn't appear to be. You should read up on WP:Vandalism, and also retract your warning on the users talk page. Llamabr (talk) 17:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Japanese language
Hi, Oda Mari. :) According to your name, you must be Japanese, isn't it? ;) If so, I should ask you. Do you think Japanese Kanji is EXACTLY same as Chineze Hanzi? I know well about Japanese Kanji and Chienese Hanzi. though they are different! I hope you accept me to add 'modified' in the part. Thanks.--Carl Daniels (talk) 13:06, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Carl Daniels! I saw your message. To tell the truth, it was a difficult decision to revert. But I thought it is not appropriate to add 'modified' in the intro because not all the kanjis are modified. How about the word 日本語? Is there any modified kanji used in it? I think the description here is an appropriate one. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 13:53, 2 August 2008 (UTC)- User:Carl Daniels transfered from User talk:Carl Daniels - I don't like the disuccusion is scattered.


 * That's why I recommend 'modified'. You knew they are different. Do you want the readers to misunderstand that Japanese Kanji is same as Chinese Hanzi? I think Not. We aready know they are NOT same. it's not just the differece of calling name. I hope you reconsider it. Thanks. --Carl Daniels (talk) 15:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I will show you a part of the list of Simplified - Traditional - Japanese Kanji
 * If you can't distinguish them, you should enlarge this, and check it! ;)
 * 写 寫 写
 * 广 廣 広
 * 亚 亞 亜
 * 办 辦 弁
 * 帮 幫 幇
 * 从 從 従
 * 产 產 産
 * 传 傳 伝
 * 废 廢 廃
 * 绿 綠 緑
 * 吴 吳 呉
 * 乡 鄉 郷
 * 隐 隱 隠
 * 丰 豐 豊
 * You need more? --Carl Daniels (talk) 15:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * If adding 'modified', general readers would think kanji are 100% modified. But that is not correct. How about asking for other editors opinion on the talk page? Oda Mari (talk) 16:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Adding "modified" won't make people think they are completely (or 100%) different. Modified just means that something was changed. I think using the word "modified" would be acceptable. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:29, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I see. Thank you for the explanation, 日本穣. I am reverting my edit. Sorry for my poor understanding of English,  Carl Daniels. Oda Mari (talk) 04:42, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Oda Mari&日本穣. :) --Carl Daniels (talk) 18:09, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Nice to meet you...
...Have a nice day! ;~) LessHeard vanU (talk) 16:06, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Misuse of twinkle
Although I generally think that you're a fair user, and the person with whom you have been disputing has some issue, I think you misused your twinkle at this time. Because that is clearly a "content dispute", not a "vandalism" per policy. Therefore, your warnings seem not be warranted and can be easily ignored. If the edit was truly a vandalism, you would have reported him to WP:AIV, but you did not because you know the reason. Regards.--Caspian blue (talk) 05:53, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, you really confirm me again that you're a really nice person and editor. Hmm..I don't know anything about Soga family and why he so clings onto the subject, but well, if he would not comply with a discussion request that he has received, you can fetch administrators who knows the subject well, or third person. Thanks. --Caspian blue (talk) 06:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: Although it is proven that the editor with whom you were edit warring is an abusive sock along with Bentecbye and other Japanese sockpuppeters, the ip was no related with him. Therefore, Nihonjoe's accusation turns out to be false.--Caspian blue (talk) 17:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. It is so true that Manacpowers is an abusive sockpuppeter proven by the CU and has not been helpful to Korean projects with his massive edit warrings with other sockpuppeters. It is also amusing to see that the both sockpuppeters have been calling each other in a same manner. But if I was viewed as unnecessary unkind to Nihonjoe", there are many reasons. I was falsely accused by him out of nowhere with no grounds, and have not got any apology from him yet. Whenever I visited him for some help, he always rejected me with sarcasm. We have been disputing in some articles. That's why I could not bear his comments there. Sorry if he is your friend, but I think LordAmeth is a fairly neutral and good admin to help you whenever you need administrative help.--Caspian blue (talk) 18:03, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

転居挨拶状
Thanks for your help! Exploding Boy (talk) 05:56, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ha ha, don't be embarrassed. My Japanese brain never works very well!  Exploding Boy (talk) 06:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi
I wonder if you could have a look here and maybe leave the user a note on his talk page asking him to behave? Thanks. Exploding Boy (talk) 05:36, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I left a note. Hope it helps. BTW, correct my English if you find mistakes. Oda Mari (talk) 06:32, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Great! Thanks!  Exploding Boy (talk) 06:34, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the correction. Ooo, my terrible English. (sigh) Oda Mari (talk) 06:56, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, yeah, I saw his comment and your reply. Thanks for taking care of that. It seems like he's willing to settle down and behave himself from now on (but if he doesn't, he is going to be blocked -- some people are pretty unhappy about some of his previous remarks...). Exploding Boy (talk) 16:40, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * As far as I read his reply, I think he will not vandalize en wiki anymore. Because he apologized his behavior first and promised me not to protest in a form of vandalism before I answered his question. He will realize his misunderstanding when he reads my reply. Is there anything else you want me to tell him? BTW, as for the kaiseki image, why don't you ask for more info. to the uploader? Oda Mari (talk) 17:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ha ha, no, I think he'll be fine. Exploding Boy (talk) 17:07, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help with Tree Cannon. I wonder if you'd consider adding yourself to Local Embassy. There's currently nobody there offering assistance in Japanese. I might post on Wikiproject Japan too. (my mistake; there is) Exploding Boy (talk) 21:09, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * PLEASE correct it!! :) Exploding Boy (talk) 16:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ohhhhhhh, I see.... That makes sense now. Thanks!  Exploding Boy (talk) 16:39, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Your ja is better than my en. Oda Mari (talk) 16:40, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Do you mean the "background" section about TC? It doesn't need correcting! Exploding Boy (talk) 17:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah. But really? Unbelievable! I don't trust my English most of the time. ha ha. Thanks anyway. Oda Mari (talk) 17:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Photo in Tokyo City article
Hi Mari,

Thanks for adding Image:Tokyo Prefectural Office and Tokyo City Hall.JPG to Tokyo City. Very appropriate.

Do you know if this building is still standing?

Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 07:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! That's an amazing amount of historical detail. It's sad that so few Meiji buildings remain. Fg2 (talk) 10:14, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Japanese sword
My bad, thought it was a reference being replaced with spam, however the V&A link does work so doesn't need removing --Nate1481 10:36, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

OneLook Dictionary
Thanks for your input on my Language Ref Desk query. I've had the OneLook dictionary recommended by colleagues, but never saw the display as in your second link, so this is quite interesting. Still, the difficulty I encountered in clarifying the terms (edition/copy/issue/number) is highly usage-dependent, hence my query to fellow Wikipedia editors rather than reliance on reference volumes (electronic or analog). I'll go back to OneLook in the future, as I often have to explore options for period language when translating historical documents. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 19:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Original research?
Hi, Oda Mari, I saw that you removed the content as labeling as "original research"...I did not check on the source but believed he (Timothy) added legitimate contents based on a long discussion at the talk page and his emphasis on using reliable sources. The article is nominated for WP:DYK, so if the monster is not featured in the animation, I have to fix the hook and added other contents quickly. Are you sure that the removed content is original research? Thanks--Caspian blue (talk) 16:20, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the answer. I did some research, and you're right. The main character seems to be a gold fish (I saw a clip) and the story is somewhat similar to Little Mermaid. So remove the questionable content is safer than keeping it. But if it is really original research, Timothy said some contradiction on reliable sources to me before...I think the brown dish may be either sirutteok (steamed tteok covered with azuki bean) or yaksik (steamed tteok made with honey and soy sauce). But he needs to explain about the dish more since there are similar foods between East Asia. Or he could take a look at Commons:Category:Tteok, and get some answer. Thank you for your help! :) --Caspian blue (talk) 17:40, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * From Timothy Perper. I have restored the deleted material and have added a comment to the talk page. Please read the shoujou talk page before removing it again. I believe that you have acted in good faith and with good intentions, but perhaps without understanding what is involved in this question. Please read and respond, if you would be so kind, on the talk page of the article rather than splitting the discussion between here and there. Thank you. Timothy Perper (talk) 01:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I recommend that you read my User Page about this kind of topic, the last item on the page. It explains why your assessment is inaccurate. No Wikipedia policy or rule requires that we use one and only one source for statements in an article. In fact we must often use many sources to establish a fact and a set of facts. That I have done, and that you do not understand. I can see that you have little or no experience doing independent scholarly work of the kind needed to publish scholarship or edit Wikipedia. By contrast, I have been working as a published and senior scholar for over 40 years since I obtained my doctorate in 1969. I suggest that instead of working against people like me, from whom you could learn a great deal if you wished and if you listened, you work with us. No single source provides all the information we need, and as a result it is our job to assemble a thorough and complete set of references to give that information in objective, NPOV, and NOR fashion. When you disrupt the production of such material you are creating obstacles to producing high quality articles. But I am not going to argue with you because you are not listening. That is unfortunate but you have a great deal to learn. Timothy Perper (talk) 20:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia doesn't work like academia. I know both, and I'm  more familiar with Wikipedia practices than you, which is what is relevant here.  Oda Mari and Caspian Blue both have good reasons to consider your additions OR.  It could reasonably be considered to be an original synthesis as described in WP:OR.  And like everything else on Wikipedia, OR is subject to interpretation.  Your opinion is that it is not.  But being an academic scholar doesn't make you automatically correct nor does it give you automatic good judgment on what Wikipedia OR is.  So it's just arrogance to insist otherwise. --C S (talk) 21:22, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Book search
Thanks! I responded to your post over on my talk page. ヨロシク！ Matt Thorn (talk) 08:23, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * また僕のトークページで返事させてもらいました. Matt Thorn (talk) 16:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

East Sea
is the proper name. --서울 (talk) 05:09, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

こんにちわ. 質問があります.
お久しぶりです＾＾. ひとつ質問があるのですが、英語版より日本語版へ翻訳していただきたい記事があるのですが、そういった依頼はどこですればよろしいですか？--Tree Cannon (talk) 12:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

That is not NPOV version, but JPOV version
I'm disappointed at your false labeling to my edit. You're obviously favoring Japanese POV, which is against NPOV. Although NPOV does not mean to address equal amounts of arguments, the article heavily favors only Japanese side, including the map issue. I think you omit the Korean claim which surely not meets NPOV as you assert. Besides, the blind revert is not hardly a consensus reached because two editors including you are Japanese. Besides, you did not provide why you think Kusunose version is NPOV. Please do not blind revert for your favor. The article deserves to have the Korean map for illustrating Korean point of view as well. If there is no dispute on the naming, the article even would not be here. Please face the reality. Regards.--Caspian blue 05:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That is your or Kusunose's job if you guys want to include a Japanese map for balance. I don't have any objection for any editors to bring up Japanese map to the article. However, the removal is I think obviously not neutral but favoring Japanese side. I think you have to read WP:NPOV. Since you fail to provide a valid reason for your edit, I don't see why my edit should be objected by you. The dispute is not by "other countries", but between Korea and Japan. So the deletion with the false justification for NPOV is flawed.--Caspian blue 05:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

thank you!
Thank you for your additions! What would you think of the creation of a comprehensive Japanese fashion article out of that list? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 15:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Bogu
Thanks for your fixes of my Bogu and Keiko gullibility. The creator of the Rdr i relied on has been active in the last day or two, and it seems obvious you could argue more efficiently and effectively than i for his support in taking Keiko armor to WP:RfD. BTW, it may be valuable if you (and perhaps he) review all three non-spelling Rdrs to Bogu with repair or deletion in mind as possibilities. Thanks again! --Jerzy•t 17:34, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. I'm a Yank, & mostly specialize in Dab cleanup, but the many Japanese topics i encounter mock my parochialism, e.g., Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie, a final complication related to Street Fighter: The Movie. You're in my talk now, which should help me remember. --Jerzy•t 18:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

twinkle
Might I ask why you reverted my user talk page as vandalism? It's being discussed Administrators' noticeboard by multiple administrators and I would appreciate it if you would change it back. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Because it was an IP user's edit. Was it you? But how could I know it? Seeing your user page, you already reverted the page by yourself. I think  there's nothing I can do for you. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 04:40, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. It was not me, but it turned out not to be vandalism either. Honest mixup so thanks and have a good one. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:04, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Geisha
I saw your source. i know it japanese claim that geisha is not prostitute, however, it is a Japanese side claim. Don't delete thir party academic source.


 * Japanese claim that geisha are not prostitue. but foreign believe that similar to the ancient Greek hetaerae. Actually, These women wore the best clothes, were simply prostitutes for the upper class and insanely rich.


 * 'Those geisha that retain their license and trade should be equated with prostitutes and treated with the utmost contempt. (Toyama, 1886/1975: 147).
 * this is mention of geisha Toyama(1886~1975). why you delete this?

I think this is moderate. Masonfamily (talk) 17:48, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

sorry, but don't delete source. if you delete sourced material, i will report you as vandalism.

you must prove this, These women wore the best clothes, were NOT simply prostitutes for the upper class and insanely rich. Masonfamily (talk) 17:53, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok. i will check your source. but don't delete sourced material. it is a kind of vandalism. Masonfamily (talk) 18:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Yakiniku
Please be civil. your revert is bad faith. I avoid copyvio. Masonfamily (talk) 05:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

http://drhnakai.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sub1-59.htm

Your source is interesting. however, your source is not mentioned "japan have a plent of meat eating culture". Yeah, According to this source, all of human eat a meat in the Paleolithic Age. So, all of "meat eatcing culture" derived from the Paleolithic Age. ??? Masonfamily (talk) 06:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I write by japanese language, it is more easy to you and me. 一部少数支配層が食べたという話ですね. ところでそれは兎料理ではないですか? それが現代の Yakinikuとどんな関係がありますか? Masonfamily (talk) 06:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

明治時代以前に法で禁止されたことは "事実(fact)". 一部を除いたほとんどすべての国民が肉を食べることができなかったことも事実. それでは後に "しかし一部支配層は肉食をしたと言う記録がある" と言う文章一つさえ追加すればと思います.Masonfamily (talk) 06:30, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:
As with the editor above you on my talk, I apologize. It appears that I accidentally reverted both the new vandalism and the revert. &mdash;Ceran (sing / see) 19:14, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Troublesome meat dishes
This is a personal note, so I thought it would be better to put it here instead of on the discussion page. I don't think you did anything wrong - I think that Masonfamily saw something that needed fixing, and tried to do so but went about it in the wrong way. AFAIK he never explained himself, since I can't read Japanese well yet - so you didn't have a chance to understand. Coming in from the outside, I had a better chance to figure out what the problem was because I hadn't experienced all the frustrations you had up to that point.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the problem is that Masonfamily has trouble with Japanese. I think the problem is that he has trouble with English, and he's trying a lot of wrong ways to overcome that. He could certainly be valuable on the Japanese Wikpedia if he can learn to work with others, but until he learns better English he's fighting an uphill battle to work on the English Wikipedia. He would need a lot of help.

If you're willing to provide that help, it would be admirable. But it shouldn't be expected of you, and I tried to word myself on the discussion page to reflect that. Regardless of what you choose... thank you for your civility, time, and patience in dealing with all of this.

Fair warning - I'm starting to try to learn Japanese, so some day I may come asking for help on Japanese Wikipedia. Be afraid. ^_^ arimareiji (talk) 16:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Incidentally
Sorry, I just realized I never answered your implied question. I can't claim anything as noble as being a Japanese American; my username is just the name of a minor character I empathized with in the Kare Kano manga. arimareiji (talk) 02:36, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. I didn't know the manga. Or I'm not well versed in manga. Someone pointed out there was a manga character sharing my user name. But actually it's a coincidence. Cheers! Oda Mari (talk) 05:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I got curious and tried to google your username along with "manga"... Now I'm even more curious, is the pun in your username deliberate? ^_^ arimareiji (talk) 23:09, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is. When I created an account, Wiki refused the user names I tried to use again and again, saying that they were already taken. So I typed Oda Mari out of pique and Wiki shut up. That's why I use the name. Oda Mari (talk) 05:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Tsushima Island
Hello Oda Mari, regarding your last revert here: Would you please be so kind to give an explanation for your revert? Maybee it was just a mistake from your side... Thank you. --Valentim (talk) 07:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi! I don't think it was my mistake. Please read this. If you can read Japanese, I will show your recent news on the tourism in Tsushima.  North Koreans are not able to go abroad. Have you ever seen any?  Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 13:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I know (and because of this I changed "Koreans" to "South Koreans" (see here. Please note also my edit comment). I still don't know why you reverted my edit, I only recognize that this information does not make any differences between North and South Koreans. --Valentim (talk) 16:18, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * My God! It was really ,really stupid of me. It was my mistake. I don't remember what I was thinking when I reverted your edit. Please forgive me. All I can do right now is hide my embarrassment behind a smile. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 16:55, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Already forgotten ;-) --Valentim (talk) 20:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Patent nonsense
Hi; I noticed that you tagged the article Tony Davidson for speedy deletion under the G1 criteria, patent nonsense. This is a common mistake that taggers make. An example of patent nonsense is an article filled with "isfjfidsoj fdoj sfodj dsfj oids" or other completely incoherent text, for example. This is definitely an article that should be speedied as db-bio, not db-nonsense. Just a heads up, because the article creator just received a note that the article they created was due to be deleted because it was incoherent, not for the real reason that it was about problems with a lack of notability of the subject matter. Neil916 (Talk) 18:31, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I'm sorry. I'll read the criteria and be careful. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 04:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Maiko
Hello again - I removed the hatnote because currently, maiko is being used as a disambiguation page, including a few women with the first name "Maiko", and several train stations. As it is being used as a disambiguation page, the hatnote is misleading - maiko does not redirect to geisha. I wonder if Maiko (disambiguation) should be used instead? --Malkinann (talk) 18:10, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * No worries - good luck getting the hang of Twinkle. --Malkinann (talk) 19:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Chrysanthemum Throne
I'm convinced you were wrong to demur when you were challenged about your claim that Wikipedia needs to have a short article -- not a mere redirect link -- for this specific subject. If I had noticed this thread before yesterday, I would have commented in a timely fashion. As it is, I can only address the issues  post hoc.

I want to see Chrysanthemum Throne restored, even if it only consists of a single terse paragraph. Conceptually, the relevant material is otherwise lost, inaccessible, unhelpful. This point-of-view compels me to inquire: I plan to restore the article. I would have thought that I must have referenced Chrysanthemum Throne at least 100 times in articles about the Emperors and the Imperial system .... --Tenmei (talk) 17:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Why did you think the article was needed?
 * Why did you demur when that sentence was not accepted at face value?
 * I have to agree that the subject is notable. I haven't seen the thread in question, but when I googled and found http://www.japan-101.com/government/chrysanthemum_throne.htm - I can't see why that wouldn't be article-worthy. It might need a little editing and sourcing, I don't know (since I didn't see the original)... but it's certainly article-worthy. Please let me know if I can help? arimareiji (talk) 18:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't object to your opinion, Tnnmei. I have to admit, I really couldn't decide if it was needed or not. At first, I thought it was important and notable enough to be an article and I reverted it. Because there are 10 language Wiki links and ja:菊花紋章 is not a short article. But thinking about the shortness of the en article, I thought the IP editor and User:Torsodog might be right. And no one supported my first choice. I was not sure if the subject was notable enough in English world. I mean what I thought the article was needed might be my pro-Japanese point of view. So I reverted my edit. Now I'm amazed at my weak mind on the matter. arimareiji, please take a look at the thread and tell me your opinion. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 19:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't mind, but I put my opinion directly onto the discussion page. And I'm sorry if I caused any offense by referring to you as "he" previously. Unless I'm confident I know a person's gender, I tend to think of "he" in the sense Latin would, default and genderless. That's a really bad habit, and I apologize. arimareiji (talk) 20:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I added a section on "Rhetorical usage" which explains in classical Greek terms why this article is essential. Further, I added "Notes" and "References" sections which help to underscore the credibility of illustrative examples. --Tenmei (talk) 22:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Oda Mari -- When you have time, will you take a look at this new "Rhetorical usage" section. Does it make sense to you? Arimareiji has concerns that the section may be over-done; but to be frank, I had previously assumed that this was so obvious that it need not be explained ... and it's now clear that I couldn't have been more wrong.

I need a little feedback about whether or not the selected illustrative examples do actually help make the point. Maybe I need to be on the lookout for some better anecdotes?--Tenmei (talk) 19:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * FYI -- Today I observed something unexpected in one of the Henri Bendel's show windows facing Fifth Avenue. The display features a large throne; and arrayed in regal splendor nearby is an 8-foot ostrich with dyed purple feathers and a crown on his/her head -- not a sour-tempered emu; but rather, he bird was one of those conventionally quizzical ostriches ....  I mention this curiosity to illustrate the fact that sometimes a "throne" is nothing more than a fancy chair.  Surprisingly, I thought of you as I looked at this enigmatic window display; and then, as I walked north on Fifth towards Tiffany, Bulgari and Asprey, I resolved to share the moment with you within the next couple of days.  I thought to myself that anyone else might well overlook a mere chair; but no one could have failed to notice a slightly silly purple ostrich.
 * In this real-world context, it become immediately clear that the Chrysanthemum Throne exists on an entirely different plane, which is as it should be, of course. --Tenmei (talk) 04:46, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure. I've got to go now. But I'll take a look at the article. Happy editing. Oda Mari (talk) 06:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I read the article. I'm sorry but I noticed that I know little about the English term. Because I always think it in Japanese 皇位/imperial throne. Do you know who started to use the term when? As for a chair, there is really the throne called ja:高御座/takamikura in Kyoto Imperial Palace. It is used at enthronement ceremony. The ceremony was held at Kyoto palace when Meiji, Taisho, Showa Tenno were enthroned. But for Akihito, the ceremony was took place at Tokyo Imperial Palace because of the security reason and the throne was brought to Tokyo for the ceremony. And Imperial Regalia of Japan is considered as a symbol of Chrysanthemum Throne. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 15:27, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I vaguely recall having seen a photo of the raised dais which was constructed for Emperor Taisho's enthonement. If I can figure out where I saw it, maybe I'll try to see if I can get the appropriate permissions in order to post a copy of that photo?


 * As for the origin of the classical rhetoric applied to the Imperial Throne of Japan, I'd be surprised if it didn't predate Charlemagne and the Holy Roman Empire ... maybe it was something introduced into the English language with the Norman Conquest in 1066. Perhaps I might begin an etymological search with the unabridged Oxford English Dictionary?


 * Please look again at the current state of the "Rhetorical usage" section. With regret, one of the things I have not yet learned in the Wikipedia context is something to do with how much is too much, how much is just enough, and how much is just not enough.  In other words, as Arimareiji suspects, this section does still need strict scrutiny in order to assess the balance.  Is this just enough to answer questions which arose in the minds of those who mistakenly deleted the article because they thought that the  Chrysanthemum Throne referred either to a chair or to an institution but not both?


 * Expressed differently, I'm thinking of a number of instances in which -- in retrospect -- it would have been better if I'd offered a classical Greek explanation; and in those situations, I would have continued to wonder whether the "balance" was right?


 * [Aside: It is remotely possible that using classical Latin with Caspian blue is producing constructive, rational consequences? I dare not think it ... but it looks like this may be a promising approach to an otherwise intractable problem?]


 * Is there someone you might ask to look at this discrete section in Chrysanthemum Throne so that I can be guided in the way I construct future edits?


 * Caveat: I chose Emperor Yōzei because he was such a "dramatic" character. Would it be more discrete, more astute to have selected a less controversial and less non-standard character?  Is this one of those occasions where lèse majesté is to be set aside in favor of drama ... or have I judged it wrong?


 * In short -- on all sorts of levels -- I really struggled with this text. In fact, I never felt more insecure, more bold, more uncertain, more pleased, more worried ... all at the same time. Do you know what I mean? --Tenmei (talk) 23:56, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * As for the dais, you can see the video here and a picture here. I'm really sorry, but as I wrote above, I have no knowledge and no comment on the "Rhetorical usage". And I have know idea whom to ask about the section. Wishing you a good luck. Oda Mari (talk) 06:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Chrysanthemum crest
Your English was just fine... the minor adjustments I made weren't even truly necessary. But could you check the hiragana I added from the romaji I found in an article? If they're incorrect and/or should be replaced with kanji, I'd appreciate the help - my Japanese is a hundred years too young to compare to your English. ^_^ arimareiji (talk) 21:32, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


 * ... a lovely phrase -- a hundred years too young .... --Tenmei (talk) 00:03, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the adjustment. I replaced the hiragana with kanji and fixed a little. Please see State Shinto and Association of Shinto Shrines. You'll understand it had to be fixed. Oda Mari (talk) 05:34, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

November Steps
Thanks, Oda Mari-- I never suspected Japanese Wiki would have already have started an article on this piece. And it looks like it's quite an extensive, well-done article at that! I'll look through it later for help with the English one. Wow-- Now I see they've got articles on other Takemitsu works, like 鳥は星形の庭に降りる (one of my favorites). This will help with future articles on Takemitsu works. Thanks again! Dekkappai (talk) 14:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I've been looking at the ja article and thinking if I could translate something. Ask me if there's anything that I can help you. Happy editing. Oda Mari (talk) 14:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Request for translation
Hello there, I saw your name under the edits for the Kanji article.

There is a location on panoramio that I'm trying to use for some Japanese research but unfortunately I can't read Kanji... Would you mind visiting it and tell me what it says? Thanks in advance! User5802 (talk) 00:59, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * 長浦岳 is read as Nagaura dake (560.77 ｍ) and translated as Mount Nagaura. 長崎県民の森 is Nagasaki kenmin no mori (長崎/Nagasaki 県民kenmin の/no 森/mori) and translated as Nagasaki Prefectural Forest Park. If 県民 shold be correctly translated, it is the citizens of the prefecture. Though in Japanese, this is the official site. And you can see the panorama view from the lookout point in the park. Click and move on the second picture on this page. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 05:32, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * WOW! Thanks so much for all of the information Oda! You are a great help! User5802 (talk) 18:59, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

CSD G4
Hello. Thanks for the newpages patrol! Regarding Rachael starr which you tagged for speedy deletion as a repost, I just wanted to drop by to tell you that CSD G4 only applies to pages previously deleted after discussion, at an XfD forum such as at AfD. It does not apply to pages that were only previously speedy deleted, as this article was. Note also that even when an article was previously deleted on the merits, G4 is only applicable where the reposted article is substantially identical to the deleted version and any changes in the recreated page do not address the reasons for which the material was deleted. Cheers. Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:09, 29 November 2008 (UTC)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:09, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry for my mistake and thank you for pointing out my misunderstanding. What should have been tagged? Copyvio? Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 16:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well it was a copyvio, so sure, but it was also a pretty blatant g11. I think noting the copyvio is more important (if you are aware of it) but either would do:-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:53, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Page move response
I did not say that on a talk page, I said it in the deit summary of a previous move. Sorry it sat for two days, it came at the same time as another post and I did not see yours.--Ipatrol (talk) 19:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Question about languages learning links
hello Oda Mari,

Thanks for your message. I am someone passionate about learning foreign languages, that is the reason why I participate in Wikipedia, adding external links towards thematic vocabulary with images and audio.

But, each time, there is someone blocking those links, saying it is not interesting, not in relation or something like this. I don't understand why, because I think this is very good for learning languages to have thematic vocabulary lexicon, alphabet, virtual keyboards, links to translators and videos to learn.

All the links I added are without any advertisement, you can check it by yourself, all is completly FREE, no need for subscription ...

I am in good faith adding them, it is not to make spam, but because I enjoy very much this stuff and I think it can be very useful for other people to know them.

I am so sad that I feel for being not understand, please can you do something to explain me why those links are not appropriated.

I don't know what to do now, because I hesitate in participating much longer in Wikipedia, because I don't want to be definitly blocked.

So please, can you take few minutes to explain me what is really wrong with those links.

Maybe it is "Polyglot Chat" window that enable people from all around the World to talk together, and nobody understand this function ? I don't know.

Thanks for your answer, and I still love Wikipedia very much, you can be sure of it, I just want to be constructive and be part of building such a genious, creative and collaborative idea.

best regars from FRANCE —Preceding

unsigned comment added by 82.226.48.111 (talk) 02:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

hi Oda Mari,

About the language sites there is always two versions for learning vocabulary : - one is : index.php - other is : index_uk.php

all the words you see are translated in both French and English as well as another language, the one which the user can learn. One's can switch from English version to French or the contrary by clicking on the menu flag.

thanks very much for your answer, it helps me better understanding, and I wish you good celebration for Christmas day.

bye, François

Re: Articles for deletion/Futaba Channel
Hi there. I deleted the Futaba Channel article at the end of the recent AfD; but I really would like to try and source it and bring it back. I've seen you around, and I'm almost certain you're a native Japanese speaker. If have the time, I'd appreciate it if you could look at the Japanese Wikipedia article and identify the source links in their article. I am not seeking a translation of the entire linked articles - I just want to know which links are to sources; I think will work on getting translations and see if we can use any of them to bring back the article. If you don't have the time please ignore this, I am well aware that we all volunteer our time to this project. Thank you, and take care. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  14:17, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi! Yes, I am Japanese. I did try to find the sources. It was in vain. But I am trying once again, hoping against the hope. Just keep your fingers crossed. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 14:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but I could not find any reliable sources. Probably because the site is not a kind of one on the sunny side of the web. It's a favorite haunt of otaku, you know. I know the importance of reliable sources. But if it could be possible, I'd like to apply Ignore All Rules to the article. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 09:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for looking for sources; you're the best. I am not quite ready to apply IAR, but I am going to expand my search for sources to include traditionally non-reliable ones (like blogs). My hope is to find one or two good ones, and get consensus on the reliable sources noticeboard that I can use them. Take care. Xymmax  So let it be written   So let it be done  14:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

The term "vandalism"
Oda Mari, do not falsely label "content disputes" as vandalism again although you do not like the content. This is not a first time you have done. Rather please discuss the matter with the disputers at the talk page. Thanks.--Caspian blue 19:12, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, you knew that the edit war was not "vandalism" (if so, WP:AIV would be a perfect place), but mere content disputes. They left edit summaries when they edited unlike mere vandalism or deceptive summaries of vandals. I think your labeling is not only incorrect but also accusatory. Besides, JnJ's accusation left at the edit summary was very disturbing (that's why I reverted his edit). Also why do not you try to get a consensus or discuss with them at the talk page? You should've done that. --Caspian blue 07:41, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Still, I can't agree with you on that. Your reasoning over "lack of consensus" does not make their edits autmatically "vandalism". Likewise, when made very bold edits to the article of South Korea, his edits are not "vandalism" although he did not get any consensus at all at that time of edit warring with other editors. After the article was protected twice, really discussions began. Anyway, I'm not interested in the article in dispute, so I would not participate in the article further. Regards.--Caspian blue 08:49, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, long time no talk. ^_^ Just a thought... in my experience, the word "vandalism" is more trouble than it's worth. Even when it's true, I usually avoid saying it. It's too troublesome. arimareiji (talk) 01:07, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi! I see. I'll be careful when I use the word. Thank you for the advice. Oda Mari (talk) 04:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Volleyball
Many thanks for your help with all the names of the Japanese volleyball players! Please allow me to ask you about the name(s) of Naohiro Ikeda (Nakano). Was he born as Naohiro Ikeda or was he born as Naohiro Nakano? I think his Japanese article says that he was born as Naohiro Ikeda and was later known as Naohiro Nakano? I will also start some more articles for Japanese players. Kind regards Doma-w (talk) 12:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops. Sorry. That was my stupid mistake. I corrected it. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 14:01, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't worry! I know how hard it is to check also this things... Many thanks and kind regards Doma-w (talk) 15:15, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Edit battle by Japanese and Korean
"Edit battle by a Japanese and Korean people" started again. This topic of discussion is "In ancient Japan, Korean people was a ruler. "　Will you write your opinion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.175.255.217 (talk) 12:09, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Identification of vandal
I notice your recent rectification of the "Art Deco" page. I work in the department of a public library which offers computer access and I know the identity of the vandal, who also recently vandalised the "Bering Stait" page. I wonder whether wikipedia has a facility to inhibit editing from a specified set of IP addresses, if so I can attempt to provide our range of IP addresses. Please let me know on bog042-trash@yahoo.co.uk if you have any suggestions of a way to combat future vandalism. I am afraid I cannot confront the individual as he has fairly severe mental problems and it could be dangerous both for me and himself. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.231.209.131 (talk) 08:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! I'm afraid you seemed to post the message on a wrong page. I did not revert Art Deco article lately. So I have no idea whom you are talking about. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 10:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I see. You mean this IP user. I think it would be better to ask for help to admin. Oda Mari (talk) 10:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * That's OK: if the bizarre edits persist from any IP then that IP can be blocked. I see no need to block a range of IPs. -- Hoary (talk) 16:04, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Futaba Channel
Hi there. You were a participant in the AfD discussion for Futaba Channel, which I closed as "delete." I have decided to relist the article at AfD; the discussion is here. Your further input is welcome. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  18:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Japanese
Hi Oda Mari! Please allow me to ask you again for your help. Can you please have a look at this article Sujaku Suzuki? Is this the correct spelling of his name? Or is the correct spelling Shujaku or Suzaku? Many thanks in advance and kind regards Doma-w (talk) 00:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! Sujaku is the correct spelling. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 04:16, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Many thanks! Kind regards Doma-w (talk) 23:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Removal of video from Billie Holiday and Strange Fruit articles
I'm afraid I don't understand the logic behind your removal of video links from the Billie Holiday and Strange Fruit articles.

You call the page "advertising" and make some reference to link ranking. You also justify your removal of these links on this basis: (General note: Adding spam links on Billie Holiday)

The link offers a video of Billie Holiday performing "Strange Fruit" and it delivers exactly that simply and directly with no obstacles on any kind.

This is 100% relevant to the subject at hand and a service to readers who are interested in this song and its history.

The three references that you did not remove from the "Strange Fruit" article either contain advertising or are built as an offer of something for sale.

The video link referenced is to a free site that has organized jazz videos for free distribution. It is supported by AdSense ads as are thousands of sites that Wikipedia points to including links you have left up.

In a discussion of a song, what could be more appropriate than a video of its signature performance?

Nolatime (talk) 21:08, 10 January 2009 (UTC) Nolatime


 * Sorry if I left an inappropriate caution. But the links you provided seem to violate their creators' copyright. Please show me if they don't. Please take a look at External links and Copyrights. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 04:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * With all due respect, with this statement you are radically changing your justification for removing the aforementioned links.


 * Before we proceed, have you abandoned your position that these links are "spam?"


 * If not, can you explain why you did not delete links to pages that are similarly constructed? (i.e. freely available content, accurately described, directly relevant to the topic at hand, supported by AdSense ads.)


 * If you are dropping the claim that the edits in question constitute wikipedia spam, will you publicly retract that statement from all the places that it appears?


 * I will reply to the copyright issue after you have clarified your position on the original matter you raised.


 * "Sorry if I left an inappropriate caution" is not an adequate clarification. The use of the qualifier "if" suggests the matter is open to further discussion and I'd like to completely address the original issue you raised before proceeding to the new one.


 * Thank you.


 * Nolatime (talk) 13:18, 11 January 2009 (UTC)Nolatime


 * Thanks. I just wanted to make sure that it was clear that my adding these links to the articles in question was in no way spam, either by intention or by accident.


 * I am researching the copyright issue.


 * I'm not sure that pages that are linked to from wikipedia require the same rigorous due diligence as material posted directly on wikipedia. If they do, then I'm afraid that there are many hundreds of thousands (millions? tens of millions?) of pages linked to from wikipedia that will require a thorough top to bottom review. I'm not sure such a thing is feasible, let alone necessary.


 * Nolatime (talk) 02:56, 12 January 2009 (UTC)Nolatime


 * Can you explain why you continue to remove the link to a video of Billie Holiday singing "Strange Fruit?" Your original claim was that is was spam which you withdrew. Now you are asserting copyright violation. On what basis? I've read the copyright guidelines. They seem very clear: "It is not necessary to obtain the permission of a copyright holder before linking to copyrighted material"


 * Nolatime (talk) 04:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)Nolatime


 * Hi! I left a message here. And please take a look at here too. S/he is an admin and copyright specialist. If you do not agree with my edit, please ask her/him anything about copyvio. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 04:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Ikkō
(Sorry no, not the beautiful make-up artiste.) Mari, my limited ability in and patience for writing in polite Japanese is being exhausted off-wiki by the need to write a stack of 寒中お見舞い cards. I'm sure you're hugely better at this kind of thing than I am; could I ask you do a little?

This person appears to have a close relationship with 奈良原一高, who is one of hundreds of Japanese photographers who deserve articles here that are much better than those that they already have, and who is also one of a few dozen photographers who are almost universally acknowledged to be among the greats. I believe that our contributor has information, not misinformation, and that he or she really wants to present it for the benefit of all. However, the formatting is usually very odd, it's never sourced, and I hate to put effort into either (a) formatting the kind of material that, although I think it's true, could well encourage others to post fiction (terrible puffery is endemic in articles on photographers), or (b) sourcing the kind of material that the original supplier could very well source him/herself.

This writer doesn't take hints in English, doesn't respond to my grumpy, curt and very possibly unidiomatic or bizarre Japanese, and more worryingly seems to have had problems with people at ja:WP. Most recently I've said something that I suppose is interpretable as "If you don't understand what we're doing here in en:WP, piss off back to ja:WP", which is not what I intended to write at all; I hesitate to rewrite it, however, as I think I'm likely to confuse matters further.

I think that longish lists of solo exhibitions and representations in the permanent collections of museums are Wikipedia-worthy if reliably sourced. Typically, such sourcing comes from the back of lavish catalogues (図録) of retrospectives, and I suppose that most of what these actually do is recycle information (or occasionally misinformation) supplied by the artist. Our problematic contributor is probably just taking a short-cut through this, and with the best of intentions, but it just isn't good enough. If you could encourage him/her to source it -- even to published material that itself was "sourced" by him/her -- then I wouldn't mind if it were rather a mess: time permitting, I'd reformat, etc. Thanks for considering it, anyway. (And, though it's several days too late, Ake-ome koto-yoro!) -- Hoary (talk) 07:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Hoary! 謹賀新年. No! Don't use that cheap shortened greetings, please. I don't know why, but I cannot stand that one. Your Japanese message is just fine. Actually, perfect. I have no idea why he do not reply. I left message on his talk page. I think most of the Photography exhibitions section and the Selected public collections section is based on the info. from this page. See omona shashinten and shashin korekushon. It is a reliable source, isn't it? 今年もわたしのデタラメ英語に我慢して、つきあってね. Thank you.　Oda Mari (talk) 10:09, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Mari. I think I'm not supposed to say 謹賀新年 because granny-in-law died. (It's OK, she was very, very ancient, and incapacitated.) Well I also shouldn't use the shortened form, but somehow I'd not heard it until last week and when I heard it I was entranced. This just goes to show how connotations can differ, something I also noticed the other day when, very unusually, I was given an English-language menu in a 焼き鳥 shop and looked through "chicken gizzards" and the like: good in Japanese but disgusting in English! -- Hoary (talk) 12:32, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Oops. I should not used 謹賀新年 to someone in the mourning. To tell the truth, I learned the shortened form a few weeks ago. When I first saw the form, my eyes turned two dots. Maybe I'm too old to accept it. Just praying the form would not come to a recognition and be listed in paper dictionaries. I was in a hurry last time. I saw the related ja AfD and NIIME's user talk page and now I have a feeling that NIIME is not inclined to respond. Probably he is just leaving here. I found this and thought It could be used as an EL. Yum. I like chicken gizzards. Oda Mari (talk) 17:25, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I like chicken gizzards as long as they're called something else.


 * I'll look at Syabi's Narahara page. And somewhere I have a book of his that may list exhibitions and so forth. Thank you for the help.


 * I'm just waiting for ake-- sorry, the phrase you dislike, to be transformed once again, to a-o ko-yo. (I made that one up; I haven't heard it, yet.) -- Hoary (talk) 16:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, just noticed this-- "I like chicken gizzards as long as they're called something else." Such as 'chicken-shit-houses?' ;-) Dekkappai (talk) 18:56, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Movie site
Hi, Oda Mari. I hope you had a happy new year! I've got a question on a Japanese movie site: http://www.walkerplus.com/movie/. Here I'm working on an article on what appears to be the major pinku eiga awards. Here, here, and here, in three separate articles (covering three years/ceremonies) this site nicknames them "The Academy Awards of the pink film." My question is: Do you know anything about this site? How reliable/independent from PG magazine (the host of the ceremonies), is it? Would my using their nickname at the article, as a claim of "notability" constitute an independent, reliable secondary source? Thanks for your help, as always! Dekkappai (talk) 14:36, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, Dekkappai! You must have a happy pinku new year. The site is very reliable. This is the parent site page of Movie Walker. This is the ja article. Related pages in here are Kadokawa Group Holdings and Kadokawa Shoten. Ooo, I like chicken gizzards. It's my pleasure to help you. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 15:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Many thanks as always, Oda Mari. If you like gizzards, take a quick trip to Seoul and ask around for some good "Chicken shit houses". You'll love them! :-) Dekkappai (talk) 17:29, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Wait a minute... This article is about the "ピンク大賞" (I'm calling it: "Pink Prize"-- is that a decent translation?) ceremony's 20th anniversary, right?... (Here is a list of the award winners. They go from 1994 to 2007)... But if the ceremony and magazine were started in 1994, how could the 2007 ceremony be the 20th? Any ideas? Dekkappai (talk) 18:53, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! I found this. See the bottom. The editor in chief of PG, Hayashida wrote he started the awards and the magazine in late eighties in the first sentence of the essay. As for the translation, considering that the magazine is PG, Pink Grand Prix might be better. I try if I could find something more. Oda Mari (talk) 05:35, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * So they have been held since the late '80s?... but the list at the magazine's site only goes back to 1994... Wonder where I can find the others... I'll look around. Meanwhile, thank you for your continuing help! Dekkappai (talk) 06:35, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, but I have what looks like a pretty reliable source (Jasper Sharp's book, Behind the Pink Curtain), which says Yoshida founded the magazine in July 1994... Very strange... (Also this list at the Magazine's site goes back to issue #1, which is July 1994.) Dekkappai (talk) 06:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the mystery is solved. See the 1989 entry in the linked page I provided above. And this, this and 林田義行（1972～）. The magazine started as a mini-komi-magazine New Zoom-up before P.G, then PG. I think the awards were not notable then too. I think that issue #1 means issue #1 as P.G. Oda Mari (talk) 08:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Great-- you're finding all kinds of useful things :-) Yes, that solves the mystery of the "20th anniversary". Although, I've heard of the "Zoom-up" awards. They've been reported and I think I have one or two cited in articles... however Hayashida's first magazine/awards were the "New Zoom-up", so that's probably a different thing... They'll deserve mention in this "Pink Grand Prix" article, obviously, but not as their own article... (Also: As on the last page you linked, I keep coming across more and more information on 吉行由実, a female pink director-- She won some actress awards and now is winning them as director. She certainly deserves an article eventually :-) Dekkappai (talk) 16:07, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm glad that I could help you. But no thanks for the terrible named gizzards. I think even Hoary would prefer to the name in English. Cheers! Oda Mari (talk) 04:33, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * A rose by any other name, Oda Mari. If I can look forward to having a beer (or two...) at the "Golden Turd" next time I'm in Tokyo, surely you two can have "chicken shit houses" in Seoul! They're good, trust me! Dekkappai (talk) 05:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Biting the newbies
As a experienced editor, you should be ashamed of this edit. Surely it was obvious that the required action was this. &mdash; RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 11:16, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm so sorry for my misjudgment and carelessness. I apologized to the user. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 13:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Although this particular newbie has been editing for four months, with summaries such as (Quick-adding category "Ming Dynasty" (using HotCat)). -- Hoary (talk) 13:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It's OK, Hoary. The user realized his/her mistake. But I should have noticed it. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 14:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. Please use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did, and feel free to use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do. Kolindigo (talk) 20:37, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry for my inappropriate edit summaries. I'll be careful. I saw this and checked and edited the Japanese figureskaters. As far as I know, using this template is the standard way to edit Japan-related articles by Manual of Style (Japan-related articles). Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 04:35, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

speedies
Please give people time to write articles. Do not place a tag for an article being empty one minute after the article was started, as you did for Sex and the media but rather advise the author to add some more content quickly. I agree it's unlikely to become a good enough article, but we give new-comers a chance. If there's nothing there in a week, put a prod tag on it, & I will get it deleted. DGG (talk) 16:57, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * You are right. I know I am too hasty sometimes. OK. I'll be careful. Thank you for the advise. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 17:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Numismatics in Japan
I wonder what you think of this addition to the aticle about the Tenmei era -- here? As you can see, I've posted an external link within the context of an in-line citation. Does this appear to be a plausible strategy, useful for the casual reader? Or would this link seem better positioned in the "External links" section? At first blush, do you have a preference or a suggestion in this context? --Tenmei (talk) 00:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! I think in-line citation is better. If a reader wants to know more about it, s/he can directly go to the link. As for the year 1787, was it the year Tokugawa Ienari became a shogun? Ja article says so, en Wikipedia says it was 1786 though. Which is correct? Could you check it if you have time? Then add it to the Tenmei era article. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 04:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Another pink question
Hi, Oda Mari. In my pink research at the www.walkerplus site, I've come across something puzzling. This report and this report are both on the Best 10 films for 2006... but they are different lists (with some duplicate titles). Am I correct that the second report is on the Pink Grand Prix held by the PG magazine, but that the first is walkplus' own picks for the best 10? (If so, it's confusing that both pages have links to the PG site...) Thanks as always for your help. Dekkappai (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, Dekkappai. Yes, you are correct. The first one is the reporter Naoi of Tokyo Walker's own choice. See the date of the page. It's Feb. 2, 2007. I guess the reason of the page linking to PG is for readers to see the actual results. The second one is the report of the ceremony and results of the Gran Prix. It's dated May 8, 2007. And the result is same as the PG's results page. Oda Mari (talk) 04:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * So the first one is the reporter's predictions on the winners of the award, or just personal picks? I guess either way "notable" enough for inclusion. Thanks again! Dekkappai (talk) 04:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It's just personal picks, I should say. There's no word prediction in the page. Oda Mari (talk) 05:01, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

You're no fun :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.178.210.176 (talk) 09:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Rude and/or vague
Theresa Knott has quite often construed my words as "rude." Please review the following and suggest a better way to avoid being perceived as unhelpfully rude.
 * User talk:Urashimataro
 * Talk:Iwashimizu Hachiman-gū
 * User talk:Spokechieves ‎

In an effort to be "diplomatic," I have more often achieved merely "vague" ... and I would appreciate comments about this problem as well. In order to "find my own voice," I obviously need to learn to avoid being perceived as rude and/or vague.

If this question is better addressed to someone else, okay. In that case, would you suggest someone else to whom I should have reached out? --Tenmei (talk) 18:17, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * As far as I am concerned, I have never found you rude and I am aware of your good faith. So I don't know what to say. Maybe...keep it simple when you post your comment, opinion, question, or whatever. That's what I do. Or it's better to say that I cannot write English in a refined or esoteric way. As for User:Spokechieves, s/he is obviously a newbie and a native Japanese speaker whose English is not on an advanced level. It's not usually recommended, but maybe Urashimataro could try to communicate in Japanese with the user. Of course I am willing to help, if needed. Seemingly there's some misunderstanding. The newbie seems not to understand the importance of reference, but I think basically what s/he tries to do is not incorrect and in good faith. Be patience, Tenmei. I'll do any help, if I can. Don't hesitate to ask me. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 06:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Yakiimo
Hi Oda Mari,

Thanks for contributing the link to the Japan Times article at Talk:Japan. However, my question is unrelated.

This question is about an audio recording of a passing truck operated by a yakiimo vendor in Japan. The vendor sings over a loudspeaker mounted on the truck. The voice may be that of the vendor, probably recorded. The recording is 35 or 40 seconds long. I made the recording while standing on a balcony while the truck passed by on the street below.

Do you know if this recording is eligible to be uploaded to Commons? I asked at Commons:Help desk#Copyright question: sound recording in Japan and need more information. Do you know if the tune is old enough that the copyright would be expired (for example, Edo period) or if it's modern?

If you have any helpful information, the best place for it is at the Commons help desk. I'll monitor this Talk page too.

Many thanks. Fg2 (talk) 05:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! After the warm weekend, it's cold today, isn't it? I saw your post on Talk:Wiki project Japan. You know collectors of unwanted/broken items like computer, TV set, fax/telephone, raji-kase, etc? Sometimes it is a female-voiced message, but I find the driver/collector is a male. I suspect that there might be some recorded tapes sold for all kind of vendors/collectors. I don't know where to look for such information. But I try to find it. Keep warm! Oda Mari (talk) 05:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I found this! There are ready-made tapes and self-recorded tapes. And looking at some related pages, the message/announcement varies with the place/vendor. I think the message is not copyrighted. But what about the recordings? Oda Mari (talk) 05:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Mari -- that's an especially important point. Even if the message is not copyrighted, the truck might be using one of the recorded tapes, and the recording may be copyrighted. Thanks for thinking about it from this point of view. Fg2 (talk) 10:11, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

editors help
Hello I run asianmediawiki, the site last year was placed on the meta's blacklist for inappropriate links. I believe out website would be of help to wikipedia and have had users ask about the blacklist. I have requested the blacklist to remove but mike and beetstra asked me to first ask a long standing editor in that realm to request it first. May I ask you to place such a request? Please have a look at asianmediawiki's content if you are not already familiar with it. Thank you .. -- --RamenLover (talk) 22:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! It looks like the site is not on the blacklist anymore. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 05:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

XD *finally logged in*
So writing it as "二〇〇〇年" works? In Japanese it's usually written as "二千年" or "2000年"...  moo cows rule talk to moo 04:58, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, it works. I think you use IME for type Japanese. MS-IME? Mine is ATOK and when you type “niseen/にせん” and press space key or 変換 key, then the kanji selection list appears and there are 二〇〇〇 and 弐〇〇〇 in it. I think MS-IME has them in the selection too.This writing is used in published books when the language is printed in a vertical way. I'd like to show you an example. I try to find on the web. So please wait for a while. Oda Mari (talk) 05:29, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Found it. It was easy. All I had to do was type 二〇〇〇年 in the search box. See this. OK? Happy editing. Oda Mari (talk) 05:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I use a program called "NJStar"... I've never seen "year 2000" written as "二〇〇〇年", and isn't "2000" usually written as "二千"?  moo cows rule talk to moo 05:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It depends on context or which way, I mean vertical or horizontal, you write Japanese. When you refer to a year, we almost always use 二〇〇〇年 or 2000年, but in a context like Xyz has a 2000 years history, we write Xyz には二千年の歴史がある. As for IME, try the ATOK free trial version for 30 days. As far as I know, serious writers in Japan use ATOK. Oda Mari (talk) 06:31, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

yama? san?
No offence but calling a mountain, Osutaka-Yama would be the same as calling Mt Everest, Everest Mountain - it might be a good literal translation, but it is not how Japanese refer to mountains.

Take a look at the most prominent Japanese mountain article if you want - []

also take a look at this article

カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 13:57, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It's difficult to explain. But the mountains are 'yama'. See the G-results of おすたかさん/Osutaka-san and たかまがはらさん/Takamagahara-san and compare the search results of Osutaka-yama and Takamagahara-yama I posted on your talk page. Ostaka-yama became widely known for the accident of Japan Airlines Flight 123 and we can hear it is called Osutaka-yama on TV News on August 12 every year. Ask any Japanese how s/he calls the mountain. According to this page, although there are exceptions, san is used for mountains which are object of worship or Shinto-related and other mountains are called yama. And see the list of 300 famous mountains in Japan. You can see there are many mountains called xyz-yama. The matter reminds me of the pronunciation of two proper nouns beginning with Al-. Years ago, I asked about it to a British man through a friend of mine. If I remember correctly, one of the names was Almack's. I do not remember the other one. Anyway, one was オル and the other one was アル. And I was told not to ask why. Oda Mari (talk) 15:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Garden photo on Culture page
Hello Oda Mari, may I ask why it is that you replace the Shoyo-en photo that I added with the Rikujien one ? I had considered to link the Rikujien one but found good reasons to not do so. 1 - The Shoyo-en version clearly shows the connection to the Architecture section and the garden. A connection that is so important in Japan. 2 - It shows a new photo as the Rikujien is already shown in the Japanese Garden section. 3 - There are mayny Japanese garden archytypes. Rikujien is only one of them where as the Shoyo-en photo gives a more "open" approach to the garden. Details are in the Japanese Gardens article.

What is you opinion ? Thanks, --Piet (talk) 08:46, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Piet. The reason I replaced the image is it seemed to me that the former one was simply not beautiful enough. Especially the garden view. And as the section is the general description on the garden, I thought the Rikujien photo was more appropriate as a general image. If you think an architecture-related image is better, how about this one? Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 09:10, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Or File:Chionin21n4272.jpg, File:TofukujiReiunin1.jpg, File:Jisyohji-05.Jun.JPG, File:FundainZunantei.jpg, and File:Jikoin teien.jpg? Oda Mari (talk) 09:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Replaced it with the Jikoin as this is best in line with my three arguments. Must admit that the original was not the best we can get. It was mine, but scanned from slide.... Thanks, --Piet (talk) 10:12, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for the star. I'm speechless! Fg2 (talk) 20:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Japanese site/"reliability"
Hi, Oda Mari, I hope you're experiencing happy editing these days! I've come across a Japanese site, and wondered if you could offer any opinion as to its "reliability": http://allabout.co.jp/ Thanks! Dekkappai (talk) 00:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! I've been doing fine. How about you? It's a very reliable site. The site is tied up with About.com and the two major shareholders are Recruit (company) and Yahoo! Japan. These are ja wiki articles on them. About the company and the site. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 05:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Oda Mari! That's good news for my very difficult to research, but always fascinating subject area :) Take care! Dekkappai (talk) 06:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


 * But but but . . . Yahoo is a search engine, internet provider, etc., and about.com appears to put out anything and everything, regardless of quality. &para; As for allabout.co.jp, I dunno. It seems largely to be for shoppers, but then of course so do most "news" sources here. -- Hoary (talk) 14:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


 * What, what, what? Did I miss something? The site looks reliable to me. They are listed in JASDAQ Securities Exchange. Enter the code 2454 or All About,Inc on this JASDAQ page and check them there. According to the ja article, their tie-up with about.com is just the name only and what they do is provision of information by experts. Hi Hoary, how is your 2k machine? Could you find a fast and nice browser? And could you solve the printer problem? Oda Mari (talk) 15:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd have thought that listing by JASDAQ indicated financial probity. Aren't the publishers of supōtsu shinbun, broadsheets (e.g. the reliably right-wing Yomiuri), the shūkanshi and the rest all listed there? For the English-language press, I'd entrust the Murdoch konzern with my money (if I could suppress my ethical qualms); but as for my confidence in the veracity of its infotainment, the Dirty Digger's News of the Screws (for example) will say anything lubricious and scurrilous that isn't too likely to get it sued too expensively (and of course will avoid most actual news) and I'd therefore only use it for wrapping fish and chips. &para; Yes, all working pretty well here, thank you. I've found that the Firefox sluggishness is extremely localized: within WP, for example, it's almost always limited to the edit summary box; on the rare occasion when sluggishness extends beyond this, I simply close Firefox and reopen it. However, I haven't got around either to replacing the OSes of either of my two main computers, as I'd intended. -- Hoary (talk) 00:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, to come clean here: My inquiry is specifically about a series they have on AVs ...But since many editors seem to define an unreliable source dealing with erotic entertainment as "Any source which covers erotic entertainment," I suppose the point is moot... Dekkappai (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Looking at the page, it still looks reliable. There is a writer's photo, the man in a green sweater, and you can see his profile by clicking the photo and contact him by clicking 問い合わせ. Mmm...I want to know the definition of what is and what isn't a reliable source. Sigh. Oda Mari (talk) 16:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if anyone questions me about it, I'll just point out the green sweater :) ... My belief on sources-- though I know this is sacrilegious at Wikipedia-- is that any source is better than none. Find the best source you can on your subject, cite it, and let the reader decide how "reliable" s/he considers it. Wikipedia's increasingly hard-line policies (enforced by people who, often, don't know what they're doing) result in, on the one hand, vast totally unsourced articles US pop-culture-- left alone because "everybody knows they're notable", and on the other hand, stubbed-down, "unsourced" "Original research" and "fact"-tagged articles on other subjects-- subjects which had once been sourced but whose sources were removed by people who have thoroughly forgotten the original aim of Wikipedia, and are now redoubling their efforts. But I digress... Dekkappai (talk)


 * Yes? I'm deciding the contrary: that no assertion is better than a dubious assertion, and that even university presses needn't be trustworthy. The general level of care given to evidence is pretty appalling, so I try to do better. Typically, the closer I look, the worse things seem. See my recent thoughts here on what at first look like a mutually confirming bunch of sober pages from reliable sources, Northumberland University (Press) among them. If people don't care about reliability of what's repeated and instead just want received ideas, they've no need for an encyclopedia; Google is their friend. -- Hoary (talk) 00:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not so sure we're on opposite sides here, Hoary. The difference is our topics-- I write on disreputable subjects, and therefore my sources tend to be disreputable. I do seek out the best available sourcing on my topic though. When the Oxford University Press biography of Sakurako Kaoru comes out, you can bet I'll be first in line to get a copy. I suspect that we do have differing views of what Wikipedia should be doing, however. Do I want anonymous, largely teen-aged editors judging the value of sources? I do not. I want the best sources that can be located on a particular subject presented to me, and I'll judge for myself how reliable they are. I am not under the impression that Wikipedia-- the encyclopedia anyone can edit-- will ever be a reliable source. It can't be unless the entire project is scrapped, started over from the beginning and renamed "the encyclopedia only qualified experts can edit." I, therefore, submit that it is disreputable subjects such as Pokemon episodes, '70s drive-in movies, Lithuanian porn stars, etc.-- in other words, subjects that are not covered elsewhere seriously, and the subjects that everyone loves to delete-- that Wikipedia covers best. This drive to be taken seriously and only cover "notable" subjects is admirable-- I suppose... no, on second thought, I don't-- but essentially Quixotic. If I want a biography of Napoleon, Wikipedia will always be my last choice. If Yumika Hayashi catches my eye and I want to find out something about her-- Wikipedia should be that source. Though it is just these subjects which are under constant threat of deletion... Dekkappai (talk) 02:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd like to add to the above long-winded rant (note it was posted after drinking hours, my time zone, when I'm usually at my most loquacious :): The column in question appears to be of use mostly for professional information, not biographical-- DVD releases, company contracts, idol "events", etc. Not "celebrity gossip". Since, lately, and I think wrongly, commercial sites have come under attack as sources for data on commercial releases, this would be a second-party source-- although, naturally, still disreputable since it deals with a disreputable subject. Dekkappai (talk) 16:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Dekkappai, sorry, it is not the photo but the name 大坪ケムタ to click to see the writer's profile. I saw several pages, including other genres, the site seems to me a not-so-bad informative site. Definitely not a gossip or commercial site. Oda Mari (talk) 17:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. The "green sweater" was just a feeble attempt at humor. I noticed he's red-linked as an AV-specialist at JA-Wiki in ja:映画秘宝クラブ... whether than connotes more "reliability" than the green sweater, I don't know :) Dekkappai (talk) 17:56, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Dekkappai: When the Oxford University Press biography of Sakurako Kaoru comes out, you can bet I'll be first in line to get a copy. [...] If I want a biography of Napoleon, Wikipedia will always be my last choice. Yes, perhaps I should see whether Britannica is still available in a form that I can install under Linux. Britannica aside, I wonder what your choice would be for quickly boning up, if I may so phrase it, on the little man in the big hat. For a period lasting about a month, I'd have looked for a "Very Short Introduction", from that very same OUP. Why a month? I'd been vaguely aware of the existence of these books but dismissed them as undersized and overpriced rivals to Pelican Books. However, I simultaneously (i) got tired of the physical effort involved in reading Judt's splendid Postwar during my daily commute and (ii) realized that a certain online monopolist had the VSI books at pretty good prices. So I ordered a handful. It took me about a month to digest several and be severely disappointed by half or so. The latest is Geopolitics, which starts with a history of the term itself that seems well done but which WP "Geopolitics" does well too, and then wobbles on about the politics of geography or maybe political geography before descending into banal and dreary stuff about media "constructions" and "narratives", etc. At the end of it, I tentatively infer that "geopolitics" doesn't really mean very much; rather, it's a would-be impressive term. The book has boxes with extra stuff in bold on grey (sometimes lengthy, sometimes aphoristic) for no clear reason. (All the books in the series do this: in some, the separation into boxes seems sensible; in others, it seems mere gimmickry dictated by a commissioning editor obsessed with the notion that readers can't handle more than 300 words at a stretch without a picture or other novelty.) At the level of prose, it's pretty good (though nowhere near WP's FA standards); this puts it well above the VSI on The European Union, which has several convoluted sentences that I could parse only after repeated reading. &para; All in all (and from plenty of independent evidence that I shan't bore you with here) I infer that the world of publishing is getting desperate and that it's no longer safe to expect quality from even the more prominent university presses. The world of learning certainly shouldn't depend on WP but it can't blindly depend on OUP either. -- Hoary (talk) 02:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Hoary, I picked the little guy with his hand in his coat at random. But for a good idea on where to find sourcing appropriate to the subject-- have you tried Wikipedia? Don't trust the article, but, since Napoleon's a mainstream topic, you probably won't have to worry about it being deleted... Need a recommendation for a decent biography on the kamikaze porn guy? In that case I can whole-heartedly recommend Wikipedia, which, as far as I know, is the only resource to cover the subject in English :-) But seriously, that article worked me up for several reasons. 1) when I found it, it was the ideal target for the AfD pitchfork-mobs, 2) I just happened to have access to online newspaper sources-- which 99.9% of AfD-voters won't-- so I found a lot on him (admittedly peripheral), and 3) it's a good example of what I was talking about above-- Wikipedia can do it well, but it's not going to be covered extensively elsewhere, which is one reason it may still be a target for the AfD police... maybe I should have used Chesty Morgan as an example... Ms. Morgan was another good target for AfD when I found her, but, just because I happened to have-- ahem-- some interest in the subject, and had access to sourcing, was able to put together a decent article... Now, if I had access to a similar resource on Japanese newspapers or magazines, think of all the soon-to-be or already-deleted articles I might save... But I guess I'm regressing into my old deletion-phobia, as well as shamelessly bragging about my editing... I have to agree though-- I've seen some pretty appalling output from university presses too... Dekkappai (talk) 03:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not knocking porn or its coverage here, 'Ppai, but I'm puzzled by any claim that this is the only encyclopedia that deals either with it or with this or that branch of Japanese commercial culture. There are wikis that are devoted to such things. And they're not obviously anomalous: take Psychwiki for example. The article about the "kamikaze porn guy" alarms me because it's only incidentally about a porn "actor" and is largely about a grandstanding homicidal nutball. Of course a reading of this article will be utterly harmless for the vast majority of those who read it; but it's also unlikely to educate them, other than trivially. According to my hazy understanding of psychopathology, both the salience of goofy precedents by other nutballs and the promise of posthumous recognition help nutballs along. Reluctant though I am to censor, I'd be happier if these people all disappeared into oblivion, other than in books and papers intended for grad school and above: material that's intended for developing a real understanding among professionals rather than slaking the idle curiosity of Hoi Q. Polloi. -- Hoary (talk) 10:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well here we just have to agree to disagree I guess. I think of Wikipedia as a place where anonymous editors can put together decent, sourced articles on topics that are not otherwise well-covered. Ghetto-izing in-depth coverage of particular subject to other ~Wikis, might make some sense if the mob permitted Wikipedia proper to link to those external Wikis. But by-and-large it does not. About the kamikaze guy: Well, sure he was a homicidal nutball. You'll get no argument from me there. I also would be happy if such homicidal nutballs were not part of the human experience, but they are, and they've inspired not only a few trivial Wikipedia articles, but a lot of great films and literature. Have you seen No Country for Old Men yet? But I've always been a fan of the Coens, and I digress again... This impulse to cover up the less-than-savory is far more dangerous than presenting it, I believe, especially at a project that purports to be "the sum of human knowledge". Also, in spite of the info-cidal grandstanding of those who set themselves up as judges of what we should and should not read, I think this impulse to delete some of this knowledge because of personal biases/preferences is not-- in any way-- a noble one, and in no way improves Wikipedia. I think it's a real crime against Wikipedia that we have self-appointed guardians of morality "notability" who are increasingly succeeding in pushing Wikipedia to their very limited vision of what the project should be-- an anonymously-written, and therefore worthless, imitation of Britannica. But I doubt we'll ever see eye-to-eye on such a fundamental difference, so I'll see you at the AfD, I guess :) Dekkappai (talk) 15:22, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * More specifically, you can see me at this AfD. Erm, a bit strawmannish above, no? I don't recall encountering anyone who thinks WP should be as restrictive as EB. Certainly I don't. ("My" articles tend to be on subjects that wouldn't get into EB.) How about this AfD, in which we see a degree of polite disagreement between inclusionist DGG and notorious deletionist Hoary, after the latter has voted "keep". &para; The Economist is anonymously written, and though its undeviating boosterism for the "free market" can irritate, it's hardly worthless; indeed, it's almost always hugely better than TimeWeek. &para; I too like the Coens' stuff, but I thought No Country somewhat overrated and after watching it wanted to see Blood Simple yet again. -- Hoary (talk) 15:45, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No, sorry to disappoint, but I think you're far from one of the more notorious exclusionists, Hoary :) As far as No Country being overrated-- I find that completely avoiding the news, as I have done since November 2004-- though I've been giving it furtive glances since January '09-- has the benefit of coming to things like No Country without preconceptions. I was aware it had won some awards, and I was under the misunderstanding that it was about a cereal killer (Maeno aside, homicidal nutballs are not one of my interests). Anyway, I was surprised I liked it-- in spite of the homicidal nutball-- and think it ranks with their best work, along with Miller's Crossing and Vertigo... or was that John Ford?... In spite of my sarcastic comments above, I've found that working over at BP (the only Ghetto-pedia to which I belong), to take the edge off a lot of my rabid inclusionism, since that project has allowed me to dive even deeper into the warm, comforting bosom of certain aspects of popular culture than even I would have dared here at Wikipedia proper... Anyway, let's continue this flame-war another day, and leave Oda Mari alone, before s/he reports us to ArbCom or some such thing... (I do enjoy these discussions with you, Hoary, even though we're on opposite sides of the fence on a few things, and are likely to remain so.) Regards Dekkappai (talk) 19:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, look at this. He published a book. And this is the G-search result. Oda Mari (talk) 18:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow-- thanks, Oda Mari! A published authority in the field-- that qualifies for "reliability" in my book. Even if Hoary does continue to frown on it :) (And it would probably benefit my work a lot figure out a way to get a copy of that and some of the other volumes listed there. The only one on AV (not pink film) that I've got now is アダルトな人びと, published in 1992, so it only covers the very early years.) Thanks again. Dekkappai (talk) 18:24, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Leave Hoary alone. He's funny and nice but I guess he's from this country. Or you too? Oda Mari (talk) 18:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I kid Hoary because he's one of the few generally pro-deletion people whose opinion I respect :) Most of my ancestors are from that country, but I'm from one of the troublesome colonies. One with an irritating habit of mis-spelling simple words like "humour". Dekkappai (talk) 18:49, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Platinum Chewing Gum
That's very interesting. Did the "Xylish" gum from Meiji Seika claim to contain nanoparticles of platinum? And did it claim anti-ageing properties? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * This is the press release of the gum. They say 'they put platinum into the product'. Neither nanoparticles nor anti-aging is mentioned. Try machine translation or ask User:DAJF. This PDF report of Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare says platinum nanoparticles/白金ナノコロイド are used with mineral water, yogurt etc. See （ウ）食品 on page 5. And I found the Nippon Ham's press release of Platinum yogurt, claiming they add platinum nanoparticles as antioxidant to the yogurt. Oda Mari (talk) 06:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

"Review" question
Will you come offer your opinion here. Thanks! ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:12, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Translation
You don't translate from Japanese to English? You should give it a try anyway! Maybe it can help Guyinblack :P « ₣M₣ »  20:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * OK. I'll try. But where was the Japanese text? I don't remember. Oda Mari (talk) 07:22, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Guy is working on this interview. I think he is still in the first section called "Opportunity". It may help if you contacted each other throughout the process. What has been done so far is here: User talk:FullMetal Falcon « ₣M₣ »  13:26, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, short of asking advanced Japanese grammar and slang questions, I'm not sure what to ask really. I left some notes along with my translations. The notes point out sentences, phrases, and words that I wasn't sure about my translation or wasn't sure what would be a good English equivalent for. I started the second section (役割) on this page, but only got two questions in. Do you want to give the J to E translations a try and I'll give them a once over for English fluidity? Any help you can provide would be a big help, as translating is not my strong suit. (Guyinblack25 talk 16:08, 31 March 2009 (UTC))


 * You translate first, please. Because it's too hard for me to translate from zero and I don't know about not only the game but any of that kind and the terms in English. I saw your recent translation on FMF's talk page. I'll add my correction or comment if there's any...maybe tomorrow. Oda Mari (talk) 16:26, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Japanese Numerals
Sorry about the changes. I was translating Japanese numerals to Numerais japoneses and accidentally recorded the words in portuguese in the english page. Alexandremiranda66 (talk) 22:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Quick question
Hi, Oda Mari! Quick question: 双生児 and ふたご-- The dictionary gives the English "twins" for both terms. If a pair of performers were appearing in videos using the title "ふたご" would that imply they were were actually twins (born together)? Or does it mean more like "look alikes"? (Whether they actually are twins or not is another question, I'm just asking if the titles promote them as twins.) Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 22:21, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, Dekkappai! The meaning of 双生児 and ふたご is always "twins". The words do not have a meaning of "look alikes". Oda Mari (talk) 05:56, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, as always, Oda Mari. I used your answer above as part of an AfD argument, hope you don't mind. Happy editing! Dekkappai (talk) 13:16, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * It's OK. I don't mind at all. Use these J to E dic. pages as source, if necessary., , , and . Oda Mari (talk) 13:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Oda Mari-- Yes, I used the Yahoo link in the post. By the way, I also mistakenly(?) referred to you as a "she" in that post-- I assume your user editing name is just a pun on "お黙れ!", but still I always think of a "Mari" as a she-- am I wrong? Dekkappai (talk) 23:41, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * You are right. Yeah, I am she. If I were a male, I would not have posted 'Chesty Morgan! Ha! Men! ' on Hoary's talk page. It's 'お黙り!' and the phrase is a feminine usage of the verb 黙る. Men say '黙れ!'. Cheers! Oda Mari (talk) 05:08, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah... I guess if I were married to a Japanese woman I would have learned the feminine for "shut up!" Instead, I have learned how to say it in Korean... I've learned it many, many times... :) Take care. Dekkappai (talk) 05:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Inoculation
I was sorry to see that you'd been blocked for something to do with Liancourt Rocks.

I expect you to dismiss this tempest in a teapot as trivial; but I'm fretting about it. I see the hapless administrator's actions as arguably justified, while at the same time, the school of hard knocks informs my posting the following links: In this, I hope to mitigate unforeseen problems. --Tenmei (talk) 03:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * (Block log); 14:21 . . Future Perfect at Sunrise (talk | contribs) blocked Oda Mari (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 48 hours (revert-warring on Liancourt Rocks. Article is under special zero tolerance rules against edit warring.)
 * User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise#Your_48-hour_block_of_Oda_Mari

An unblock request
Please put your reference on the talk page and talk about it there. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:45, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Han (cultural)
Hi, Oda Mari-- did you have a source for "See also"ing Ressentiment at Han (cultural)? At first glance, though related, they look like very different things to me... I've often seen han equated with "the blues" (the feeling, not the music) in African-American culture, but I wouldn't "See also" the blues there, since han relates to Korea, and linking to every similar feeling in every other culture wouldn't make much sense-- another reason I question placing the European "ressentiment" at the article... When I saw the Irish film The Field with my wife, she said that it was a good example of han, but I wouldn't link Irish sentiments there either, even though more "reliable" sources than my wife have made comparisons with the Koreans and the Irish... It might be worth pointing out that every Korean I've asked about it states that the Korean feeling towards Japan is not han-- han is something deeper, and more internal. Japanese oppression is a popular theme in Korean cinema, of course, but Korean films I've seen that try to portray han-- Adada or Seopyeonje for example-- leave the Japanese out of the equation, and instead usually focus on the place of women in Korean society. So I really don't think the "Anti-Japanese feeling in Korea" tag fits there either. Dekkappai (talk) 16:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry there's no source. After I saw this, I checked ja article and noticed it has Ressentiment in the see also section. So I left my comment at the ref.desk and added it to the en article. If you think it is unrelated or inappropriate, please remove it. I know you know better about it. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 16:43, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah... I can see how, from the Japanese perspective, it would look like "ressentiment", but, from my readings and experience, it's more an internal Korean thing-- especially associated with women, the lower classes in Korean society in relation to the yangban, the southern Jeolla province... in other words, people in a hopeless/difficult situation within Korean society itself... All this touches on the kind of controversial thing that I like to avoid, and native Korean editors probably see it all differently than either you or I do-- So, I'll leave a note about removing both "ressentiment" and the "anti-Japanese sentiment" category. Han probably has something to do with anti-Japanese sentiment, but putting it in that category, to me, cheapens a concept which has deeper roots in Korean literature and culture-- It makes it look like a simple national rivalry.
 * In other matters-- I've started the Yokohama Film Festival article. I couldn't find much in English on the festival, but found some pretty good Japanese articles covering the history of it-- this one for example. My Japanese skills aren't up to confidently translating big chunks of text like that. No pressure, but if you can add anything important from any of those sources, it would be appreciated :) Best regards. Dekkappai (talk) 18:59, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Kendo to Kendō
Dear Oda Mari, could you please move the kendo page back to where it was? It was moved from Kendo to Kendō. The reason for my request is that according to modern convention, macrons are not used where the word is well know in English; and referring to the Wikipedia:Manual of Style, has "Article titles should use macrons as specified for body text except in cases where the macronless spelling is in common usage in English-speaking countries (e.g., Tokyo, Sumo and Shinto, instead of Tōkyō, Sumō and Shintō)." Kendo is one of those words. Thanks. Kendo 66 00:55, 30 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendo 66 (talk • contribs)


 * Thank you for pointing that out. I had to ask an adomin to move back. But it was moved back. Sorry for my mistake. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 05:36, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Kendo 66 07:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendo 66 (talk • contribs)

Re: Need help
Looks like someone beat me to it. :) --User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 05:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh really? Thank you. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 05:17, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Source for Japanese film posters?
Hi, Oda Mari! Do you know of a good online source for Japanese film posters? I've been starting stubs on award-winning Korean films listed at the Grand Bell Awards article, and now I'm looking through some of the major Japanese film awards, thinking of starting articles on the films that are red-linked there. I've found several good sources for Korean film posters, (and also for Japanese pinky films ;-), but haven't really found a good, reliable source for mainstream Japanese film posters... I have to Google around and hope I find an image at someone's blog or something... I just started an article on Yoji Yamada's The Yellow Handkerchief, and had to use a DVD cover, which is not good, I think... also I notice, to my shock, that none of Tora-san's films have articles... His films were major events not so long ago... Dekkappai (talk) 23:49, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, Dekkappai! It sounds like a tall order.What is the most wanted poster right now? Here are Toei yakuza films posters. The official page of Tora san is and posters. Toho tokusatsu films As for The Yellow Handkerchief, I found this poster. This might be an original poster. Other sites:, Yujiro Ishihara, Sayuri Yoshinaga, Akira Kobayashi and Koji Wada. Having searched for movie poster sites, it looks like there' no one big poster site and I think it's better to search posters one by one. I want to search more, but I've got to go now. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 06:24, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That gives me several good leads... I'm thinking of going through the lists, such as the Yokohama Film Festival or Japan Academy Prize to make sure each "Best Film" at least has a stub started, since those are mostly major films that should have articles... I think the Toho tokusatsu films already have articles/posters, but I notice another big hole in our coverage of Japanese cinema-- the Zatoichi films are not started! That Torasan site will be a great help if I get around to working on that series. I think I saw all those films at some point... Anyway, still so much work to do here! Happy editing to you too. Dekkappai (talk) 06:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't understand your last message. Please explain how it was "vandalism". What cause of integrity problem are there? And then, please check the online dictionaries as well. - Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.40.139.107 (talk) 15:38, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * See my reply on your talk page. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 15:41, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Cherry Blossom
Thanks for the comment but I believe you are mistaken to believe that flower watching was introduced to Korea by Japan. As you know most ancient practices of East Asia were already practiced in China and Korea, and cherry blossoms are indigenous to Korea and were watch prior to 1910. Thanks --4.23.83.100 (talk) 04:40, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * By the way your version can not stand the way it is either. You have to show that Korea did not practice the Chinese art of flower watching prior to 1910. Good luck with that one. --4.23.83.100 (talk) 04:51, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * By the way I didn't remove any references I only reworded parts that implied things without references. I still kept your references. If I mistakenly removed a ref put it back in but you still can't write it the way you did. You have to prove find a reference that some this Chinese art skipped Korea.--4.23.83.100 (talk) 04:55, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Did you read the reference?, It doesn't say anything about introduction of cherry blossom watching. It only talks about how China and Korea both cut down cherry blossoms in offensive locations planted by the Japanese. But as you know Cherry blossoms are already indigenous to these areas. It also states that the Japanese were trying to replicate an atmosphere similar to home for the Japanese during the war. I don't know how this is referenced as introduction of cherry blossom watching. As you know the ancient art of flower watching was very popular in E Asia even before the Silla/Tang period. I going to correct the article again thanks --4.23.83.100 (talk) 21:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

English
Sure, where at? Cla68 (talk) 05:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to add a new section to Cherry blossom. Please wait a minute and check it. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 05:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Done. I didn't know that about the leaves and blossoms.  I'm going to have try eating or drinking that sometime. Cla68 (talk) 05:30, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

three vs. third
Well, then the origin needs to be made clear in the article, then. The article said nothing about that, but did mention the three regions of Tawian, Korea, and China, and the two juxtaposed characters "三国" are really not very unambiguous at all, so I changed the translation to what seemed to make sense given the information in the article. AnonMoos (talk) 16:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Obviously I am not a Japanese speaker, but one thing I do know is that the exact same sequence of characters "三国" means "three countries" (not "third country") in 三国演义 / ja:三国志演義. What was in the article as I found it didn't really make too much sense, so I tried to make some sense of it.  If you know something I wrote is factually incorrect, then by all means correct it. AnonMoos (talk) 22:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Quick question
Hi, Oda Mari. What is the meaning of "ワケあり"? Is ワケ "訳"-- "meaning, sense?" "Having meaning?" "Meaningful?"... Dekkappai (talk) 03:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The meaning of ワケ in ワケあり is reason + circumstance and mostly the word connotes something bad. あり could be translated as "with". The word ワケあり商品 means a commodity (with discounted price) because of a flaw like a stain on a shirt, displayed one, substandard goods like bad shaped vegetables, etc. Oda Mari (talk) 04:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the fast reply, Oda Mari. That helps. Happy editing! Dekkappai (talk) 05:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Editing the Talk: Japan Page
小田さん、こんにちは. 編集注意のメッセージを送ってくれてありがとうございます. 僕は現在香港のある「愛国主義教育」の学校で働いていますので全部のパソコンで見えました. IPアドレスは218.189.203.162です. この学校で誰かが何の編集をしましたか？教頭先生にWikipediaへの邪魔編集をする方がここにいることを教えたいです. 消された編集の内容を僕に教えてくれますか？ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanenosuke (talk • contribs) 06:02, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! Welcome to Wikipedia. You can see the edit here. Probably this is a borderline case of a test edit. But I think the editor did what wasn't needed and s/he should know what s/he did. So I decided the edit as vandalism, it's not that malicious though. 多謝. Oda Mari (talk) 06:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. Your Japanese is excellent. I first thought you were Japanese. Cheers! Oda Mari (talk) 06:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm, all right. We have lots of computer labs here so it could have been anyone; well, let me know if anything else happens from this IP. 香港に引越ししてから僕の日本語能力が下がってしまったんですが、日本に住んでいる間に電話をかける時、大勢の方が僕の日本語を聞くと間違え電話だと思っていた・・・ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanenosuke (talk • contribs) 07:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * OK. But don't take it too seriously. The edit was not so たちが悪い. But...working at 「愛国主義教育」の学校. I understand your concern. BTW, you write Japanese well, almost perfect. Writing is the most difficult in Japanese, you know. 立派なものです. Far better than my English. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 09:16, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Milkybar "graffiti"
Just to mention that I've reverted this edit, which I assume must have been unintentional on your part. If you think I've missed something, let me know, but the edit I originally deleted just seemed to be "here is a private joke about my friend Tom". --McGeddon (talk) 20:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Director name
Hi, Oda Mari. Could you check the Sadatsugu Matsuda (松田定次) article to make sure we have his name right? IMDb spells the name "Sadaji", but all the Japanese sources I checked say it is pronounced "Sadatsugu". I could find no mention of the director in English books. Thanks! Dekkappai (talk) 19:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, Dekkappai! You seem to be doing fine. I've been busy lately. I think we are right. It's interesting that IMDb has another page on him. Compare the number of G-search results.  and . See also, , , and . And though in Japanese, this is his obituary notice on Nikkan Sports. Happy editing!sOda Mari (talk) 01:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Many thanks as always, Oda Mari. I trust your personal knowledge of Japanese subjects, of course, but you always do the extra work to back up your knowledge with useful citations. These are not just "proof", they help us to further build up the article. Best regards, and happy editing to you too! Dekkappai (talk) 02:47, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Hyphens in film names
Hello Oda Mari, should we change hyphens in Chushingura - Hana no maki yuki no maki to Chushingura: Hana no maki, yuki no maki or to Chushingura: Hana no Maki, Yuki no Maki or any other : or, or lower letters? This title seems a bit strange for me. and I guess that it can be improved somehow maybe.

There are similar titles that seems to be correct for me: Akō Rōshi: Ten no Maki, Chi no Maki and for example The Idle Vassal: House of the Snake Princess that should be conform to this one. Thanks. --Snek01 (talk) 12:21, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, Snek01. I prefer Chushingura: Hana no Maki, Yuki no Maki. It's better than the current title with hyphen and lower case. why don't you move it? BTW, as for Matsuda, it's interesting that his incorrect page is larger and the correct page is a mere stub at IMDb. Oda Mari (talk) 15:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Corrected. (I do not know Japanese at all.) --Snek01 (talk) 21:44, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Wow, if I'd know I'd get a reaction like that, I'd have presented the barnstar long ago! Eat your heart out, Hoary, Kiss Me, Kate! :) Dekkappai (talk) 18:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Opinion
Looks like it should be fine. Regards, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 02:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank
Hi Mari. Thanks for reminding me of 格子 vs. 子牛. The last time that I heard them was when I was still in college and taking a course in Japanese linguistics. It is an excellent example that illustrates the difference between and. A little different, but another well known pair is 里親 vs. 砂糖屋. It illustrates the difference between and. As I recall, there is a significant body of literature on the topic. Regards, Bendono (talk) 09:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * You are welcome. I have no idea what you remembered, but it must be something good and 懐かしい. Comment at the MoS ja on the "ou" matter, please. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 10:12, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Names versus film titles
Probably I should change Kunisada Chūji to Chūji Kunisada. Films titles seems to be correctly romanized and film titles could probably stay as they are, but English order will be better in film titles also. I will use standard English order for names (given name and family name). But for films may I use direcly romanized title?

The same problem is Tokijirō Kutsukake. Is this one OK? --Snek01 (talk) 12:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As for Kunisada Chūji, you should not change because he was a historical figure and born before 1968. See Manual of Style (Japan-related articles). Thus the titles too. But as for Tokijirō Kutsukake...I'm not sure...because he was a fictional figure created in 1926, but he was a character before 1868. How do they do fictional figures in jidaigeki? You'd better ask an admin on the character. Oda Mari (talk) 14:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * See the same kind of fictional character, Zenigata Heiji. The article uses the direct order. Probably you should not move Tokijirō Kutsukake. Oda Mari (talk) 14:11, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

See also: fictional Sazen Tange (Was he fictionally born before 1868?). --Snek01 (talk) 14:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Mmm...The matter drives me nuts. See Manual of Style (Japan-related articles). But what about the character articles? There is no mention in MoS ja. (sigh) Ask User:日本穣, User:LordAmeth or User:Hoary. They know better than I. Oda Mari (talk) 14:32, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And what do you think of this? Oda Mari (talk) 14:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As per WP:MOS-JA, names in titles should be rendered in the same order as they are in the original language. This is particularly true for romanizations, though I suppose with translations, Western name order could apply.
 * As for fictional historical figures, I think traditional name order should apply. Consider all the characters from kabuki and bunraku.. such as the names of the 47 Ronin for example. Changed from the historical names of the actual historical 47 loyal retainers, the characters of 'Chūshingura should be portrayed consistent to the period of their fictional setting, whether it's an article on the kabuki play, or on a film, don't you think? LordAmeth (talk) 23:21, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Very rational. Think about a jidaigeki, especially when there are fictional and non fictional characters in it, mixed writing would be strange and confusing. I am moving Sazen Tange to Tange Sazen. Oda Mari (talk) 05:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Tokijiro Kutsukake too.Oda Mari (talk) 05:10, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

interesting link
Hi Oda Mari. Thanks for that interesting link to Christianity Daily (the Korean one). It's amazing how you found it! Anyway, I always find it amusing how there are these little battles going on, where each side mobilizes an army to come edit some article here. Right now, I'm not too interested in editing Wikipedia. Your edits to the article aren't bad, but I guess you won't be editing it yourself? I notice you often refrain from getting involved in battles, which is probably wise and a good idea for your peace of mind. I should follow your example :-) I just came back from a wikibreak and already wasted some time arguing with some beginner in mathematics at Talk: codomain.  So I was reluctant to even leave another comment at Talk: Cherry blossom. --C S (talk) 14:51, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I see. I understand your reluctance. I feel the same way. The more you stay here and know here, the more you feel wiki-stress. As for Cherry blossom, I think the section has a kind of cherry picking KPoV material, but I just leave it and observe calmly. Oh, don't talk about math to me! I'm a kind of a person who counts numbers 1,2, 3...10...rest is many. Best regards. Oda Mari (talk) 15:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, I can't resist mentioning this: even if you don't like mathematics, you may enjoy reading . --C S (talk) 15:54, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I downloaded the file on my desktop and will read it when I want to feel stress. Oda Mari (talk) 16:02, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Princess Frederica Charlotte of Prussia
Sorry for not explaining. It's not the person the article is about, but her sister-in-law, Princess Frederica of Mecklenburg-Strelitz 24.141.45.91 (talk) 20:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello
A HUGE favor. Can you translate this article, when you have time? I'm not in any rush for the translation so even if it takes you months, I wouldn't mind. And if you decline I would also understand. Thanks for your time. 月 (Moon) と  暁 (Sunrise)  02:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * You mean the interview? Or all the page? Oda Mari (talk) 02:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the interview. Also there is a second page, so that's why I would understand if you don't want to. 月 (Moon)  と  暁 (Sunrise)  02:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not good at J to E translation. But OK. I'll try. But you have to be very, very patient and correct my English. And where do you want me to post the translation? Oda Mari (talk) 02:12, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you. You can post it on my talk whenever you finish it. Again thank you so much. 月 (Moon)  と  暁 (Sunrise)  02:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've got an idea. If you don't mind, would you please create a sub page? I want to translate and post it little by little. Oda Mari (talk) 02:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll create it right now. 月 (Moon)  と  暁 (Sunrise)  03:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I created the page. 月 (Moon) と  暁 (Sunrise)  03:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I added the link on my user page. Oda Mari (talk) 04:09, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Your horrible grammar on the Oatmeal page
Perhaps you should be less concerned with removing "unencyclopedic content" and be more concerned with writing complete sentences? Just a thought. 174.153.194.100 (talk) 04:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If your Japanese were half as good as Oda Mari's English... your arrogance still would not be justified. Dekkappai (talk) 04:17, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Another film award
Hi, Oda Mari. Before the rude interruption, I was about to ask if you know anything about this: 日本映画プロフェッショナル大賞. I see there is an article on it at Ja-Wiki, though completely unsourced. Can you tell what organization gives out the awards? Is it "notable" enough for an article, do you think? Regards, Dekkappai (talk) 04:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, Dekkppi! Or jules? Or Jim? It is hosted by 映画前夜社/Eigazenya-sha and the promoter/host is 大高宏雄/Hiroo Ōtaka (b. 1954). He wrote/compiled these books. His profile is here. I'm not sure about the notability of the awards, but it seems to be meaningful awards. He explain on the awards here. As for my English, I know it's terrible and laughable. So I don't care the above comment by IP. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 09:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks Oda Mari. The name "Hiroo Ōtaka" rings a bell, though I don't think I've seen any of his books... Right, the award might not have enough outside sourcing to justify its own article, but I notice that the award has been given to a couple of "my" subjects. I'll just use citations to that to help prop up the "notability" of those other articles. (And no need to apologize for your English. As a native speaker of another language, you bring a valuable perspective to Wikipedia... far more valuable than whatever grammar/spelling cleaning an insulting anon can do.) Happy editing to you too! Dekkappai (talk) 13:25, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

POV
What is the neutral edit? Neutral point of view

Neutral point of view is a fundamental Wikimedia principle and a cornerstone of Wikipedia. All Wikipedia articles and other encyclopedic content must be written from a neutral point of view, representing fairly, and as far as possible without bias, all significant views that have been published by reliable sources. Cherry Blossom OK (talk) 09:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Discuss first. See. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:VANK#for_neutral_point_of_view Cherry Blossom OK (talk) 09:35, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Rat Rod page
Please see the Rat Rod discussion page regarding my earlier deletion.

192.249.47.163 (talk) 16:46, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

The Nazi party were a far-left organization
By definition, the Nazi party were far-left and not of the right-wing. They were socialists, progressives, secularists, controlled a large public sector and well as some of the private sector and believed in extreme social engineering (Hence, the Holocaust).

To say that my change was unconstructive is inaccurate. Surely accurracy in Wikipedia is more important than shaping that public opinion of users to suit an agenda. If you want to know what far-right politics is, read the United States Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.179.173 (talk) 10:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Whey did you revert ?
Official name of Tokyo University of the Arts in Japanese is 東京芸術大学. Source;東京芸術大学規則集.--Xanthous Onyx (talk) 18:51, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * OK and sorry. I reverted myself. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 00:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

developed country article
come to discussion page and let's debate. don't just edit without saying anything. u should be ashamed. look at what ur people are doing to the article. deliberate attempt to rule out south korea. ignoring every other facts but cia and ibrd stuff. i have written down in discussion page why ur version of article is not objective.

there were 30 countries in quality of life survey but u changed it to 29 countries. isn't 30 more natural than 29??? plus look at the summary table, quality of life index at or above 6.917??? wtf?? 6.917?? why 6.917?? i know why. south korea got 6.877 and UK got 6.917. hey at least have decency to round it up or round it down. 6.917 ridiculous. score difference between UK and Korea is like 0.04. oh my god huge difference!!!!! just come to discussion page as long as u run away without debating me i will consider ur version as vandalism. pursuade me with ur 'fair' datasHawkchoi (talk) 00:14, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

ease do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Developed country. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.42.132.117 (talk) 07:51, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

岡田米山人の題名について
ご指摘の通りでした. ありがとうございます. さっそく入れ替えて訂正しました. --118.11.230.76 (talk) 16:06, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Riken request
Re: your comment on my talk page - I was not looking for someone to translate a request of mine, but to contact them and ask for the picture (and do any follow-up replies). Raul654 (talk) 05:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Got a reply today. I was told that Dr. Watanabe doesn't want his picture to appear for personal reasons, which is very unfortunate. Raul654 (talk) 14:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Your vandalism mark on my talk page
Oda Mari, long time no see. I'm asking what is wrong with you? We have been no contact for several months, and you out of blue came to revert "my user page" with the absurd mark of "vandalism" to "my removal" of inappropriate rants by some. I removed it according to "my house rule" because the page is my talk page and his comment is upsetting me. You're sometimes wrongly marking "vandalism" tag several occasion. I believe this case is also you're putting a wrong button. If not, well, please take off my user page from your watchlist. I feel unpleasant, so please do not take offense to my removal of your revert as vandalism. Thanks.--Caspian blue 02:04, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * While I was writing above, you already left the apologizing message. Given your good contribution with vandal-fighting, the case is a mistake, so you do not need to apologize for it. I'm on edge today by the mentioned user, so please do not take offense from my above comment. Thanks.--Caspian blue 02:09, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Table Hiragana
Please discuss with us at Hiragana and ask people who could be interested as well. Thanks whatever your view is 79.192.239.79 (talk) 00:23, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Possible POV-pushing on Japanese architecture
Hello Oda Mari, it appears you've had experience with User:Cherry Blossom OK before, so I've come to ask for your opinion about an incident. Referring to these edits on Japanese architecture, he claims that Japanese architecture comes from "The Three Kingdoms of Korea", while adding a few printed sources. Since he has only added the titles and names of the "books" (some are in Korean) and not publishing detail (such as ISBN numbers, etc), it would be very difficult to verify if these books actually exist. Also, he has been screwing up the WikiSyntax, and completely ruining the grammar of sentences by copypasting in the strangest of places. What do you think should be done? --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 12:31, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, 李博杰. I think there was a Three Kingdoms', mainly from Baekje, influence. But as for Kamakura period edit, I think it's a PoV pushing. Both Daibutsu style/大仏様 and Zen style/禅宗様 were directly brought from Song Dynasty in China. See and  The Kamakura part should be moved. Why don't you copyedit? Unfortunately my English is not good enough. Oda Mari (talk) 14:59, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know much about Japanese architecture, so I wouldn't really be able to help. I'm not so familiar with the subject, so I can only add the basics of what I know. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 15:05, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Article help
I'm trying to write up a new article, but I'm not positive as to what one of the references I've found is saying. Could you take a look at the third ref here and help out?— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 04:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! What you are not positive about? Lyricist? It seems to me the lyric is a collaborated work and the original lyricist is unknown. 蒼い牙 is the arranger, not the yricist. See, and . Oda Mari (talk) 13:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for clarifying.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 23:06, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Advice needed
I have asked for the advice of Nihonjoe, and he has sent me here. The problem and his answer is described at User talk:Nihonjoe. All insights you can offer would be appreciated. Fram (talk) 19:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, Fram! I searched about them on the web. I could find nothing but the current head of the family seems to be 九条道弘/Michihiro Kujo. I think that the most of the articles created by User:Kazaza kun are hoax and they should be removed. Oda Mari (talk) 06:44, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. That's what I was afaid of. I'll go and make a mass AfD for them. Fram (talk) 07:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

All twenty-one articles plus one template are now at Articles for deletion/Fujiwara Manami. Fram (talk) 13:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

technical question from Tksb
Hello! I have upped a photograph of mine, hoping to make use of it in some Wikipedia articles about the Japanese tea ceremony. It can be found here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=Rikyu-style&go=Go Being very dense about these technical matters, I can't figure out how to dig it out from there and use it. Can you help? I'd appreciate some advice on my talk page. Thanks very much.Tksb (talk) 14:10, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Name question
Hi, Oda Mari-- How have you been? All is well, I hope! I have a question on a Japanese director's name, it's one that has puzzled me for decades... The name is: 向井寛 (we discussed him a little in an earlier thread, when I was starting an article on his film The Bite). The question is: Is his name "Kan Mukai" or "Hiroshi Mukai"... Back in the '70s, I always used to see his name (in English) as "Kan Mukai". Then later on, some people started writing, no, "Kan" is incorrect, it's "Hiroshi"... Then later some people were writing that English sources call him Hiroshi, but it's actually "Kan"... and so on... Now that I'm writing an article on him, I see that many Japanese sources spell his name out as ひろし (e.g., Director's Guild of Japan, Kinema Junpo and allcinema) So it's settled, it's "Hiroshi", but... In the latest English source on Japanese pinku eiga-- a very good, large book by Jasper Sharp-- the author writes that, in his interviews with people in the Japanese film community, they always referred to the director as "Kan"... and so he uses "Kan" in the book... Any idea which it should be? Dekkappai (talk) 18:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. I just started the article at: Kan Mukai‎. I used Sharp's reasoning, since he acknowledges that both "Hiroshi" and "Kan" are correct, but that the people he spoke to-- people who knew the director-- said it was "Kan". (Unfortunately this profile, apparently made by the director himself, doesn't give a kana reading.) Let me know if you find evidence to support a move to "Hiroshi" though. Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 06:03, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! I'm fine and busy in real life. How have you been? As for the name, I'm not sure. Might be Kan, might be Hiroshi. This is a blog but it says Kan and its source is a newspaper, Sankei Sports. It says that his real name is 本名・向江寛城＝むかえ・ひろき/Hiroki Mukae. And this page says Kan and its source is Mukai Production Homepage. I try to find some more. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 06:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I found this. Hochi-Yomiuri says Kan. A couple of newspaper say Kan. What do you think? Oda Mari (talk) 07:08, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for looking into this, Oda Mari. And thanks for turning up his real name also! Yes, it looks like database-like references are using "Hiroshi", and sources that knew the subject use "Kan". So I think we should use "Kan", with "Hiroshi" as a redirect, of course. Take care. Dekkappai (talk) 13:13, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ... And I notice, with frustration, that the Sankei Sports article is removed both from the original site, and from Internet Archive. Do you know why Japanese news sources do this so often? It makes writing on Japanese popular subjects very difficult... :-( Dekkappai (talk) 13:30, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no idea. They are simply not generous at all. Yeah, it makes me feel frustrated that I cannot use Japanese papers as source. If you want to see old articles, you have to pay for them. Misers! Oda Mari (talk) 15:54, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, at least it's good to know that you run into this trouble too-- I was beginning to think it was just my poor Japanese that made it so difficult for me to locate these news items. Thanks again for your help, and happy editing! Dekkappai (talk) 17:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Utah nonagenarian
I've just made highly controversial edits -- here + here. This is replicated in a slightly shortened form here. I discovered this when I initially created the article about Patrick Lennox Tierney in 2008; but I didn't know how to handle it. Today an anonymous editor jogged my memory by changing this nonagenarian' age from 93 to 97 here. Can you offer a constructive comment? suggestion? --Tenmei (talk) 23:20, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! According to this, he was awarded in 2007 at the age 93. So he's 95 this year. Hope this helps. Oda Mari (talk) 04:34, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


 * It appears that this is may have been a non-issue; or perhaps the lack of confrontation only demonstrates that those who might have construed a cause for conflict are otherwise occupied. So much the better. --Tenmei (talk) 21:34, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Altic languages
I will leave a note, however the reversion is not ongoing and there was an attempt to provide a reference. This is really one for the talk page, not revert wars. Rich Farmbrough, 14:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC).