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Looking for help on my article on Nancy Ava Miller.
Hello,

I am writing a brief article on People Exchanging Power founder Nancy Ava Miller. Since this is my first article it is currently in my Draft Talk (I'll go ahead and copy it here, though) but I'm not sure of the next steps. I'd like someone to look at it for editing purposes, and the of course eventully get it 'live' on the website.

Any constructive assistance is most appreciated.

Nancy Ava Miller Nancy “Ace” Ava Miller Miller, MEd. CHt, is the author of Pervert: Notes from the Sexual Underground [1], which has been promoted as “Banned in Bloomington (Indiana, that is)” after the Xlibris Publishing House cancelled production of the book [2]. She is also a sex educator, lecturer, writer, poet, and founder of the BDSM/fetish support group People Exchanging Power (PEP) [3]. In addition, she is also a certified clinical hypnotherapist and a former teacher of Transcendental Meditation (TM).

People Exchanging Power In 1986 Miller, a former schoolteacher started one of the first BDSM support groups, PEP, in Albuquerque, NM. [4] Later, she drove across the country, establishing other PEP organizations in Washington, D.C., Tucson, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Baltimore, Denver, Pittsburgh, and St. Louis. [5] She also visited and provided moral support for the many new PEP groups which were springing up nationwide, including the Lone Star Pep Group in Dallas, founded by Neil S. and headed by Mistress Ruth Cole until her death in January 1994[6]; PEP - Nashville created by Mistress Kay the Red Rose; PEP - Buffalo, led by Mistress Kali Ward; and several other PEP groups. [7]

'Background Miller was born in Washington, D. C. on May 29, 1946 and raised there until 1952 when her family moved to Prince George's County, Maryland. In her younger years Miller followed the Indian guru, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, around the globe, and became a teacher of TM. Miller holds a Master’s in Education from University of Maryland, and she taught public school in the Washington, D.C. area for ten years. On the experience of earning her degree, Miller has written: “In the 1970s, my graduate studies at University of Maryland focused on communication skills - speaking, listening, group discourse, and group dynamics. I marched away with my Master’s degree in English Education plus an arsenal full of exciting possibilities geared toward encouraging humans to interact, to listen empathetically, to speak from the heart as well as from the brain.” [8]

Writing Miller is a former professional writer/photographer, and has penned such essays and articles as Looking for Mistress Goodbar: How to Find Your Very Own Dominatrix; Beyond Midnight: How to Talk to a Sadomasochist; and Phone Fantasy Etiquette[9], as well as scores of articles for “vanilla” (non-BDSM) periodicals.

In her prose piece Growing Up Kinky: How I Learned About Sex, Miller presents a narrative about how, at the age of 12, she finally comprehended what ‘sex’ meant, guided by her younger cousin, Lois. In one passage she wrote -

“Lois listened with eyes bulging in the dreary dimness of our tent. After I finished speaking, she said: ‘You don’t know how babies are born?’ Then she told me her version: ‘The man puts his thing in the ladies’ thing, and that’s how babies are born.’ Like so many children before me, I didn’t believe her. I was convinced Mom and Dad would never indulge in such behavior!” [10]

Miller’s book, Pervert: Notes from the Sexual Underground, was published in 2009 and is a memoir, as well as anthology of her poems and prose, detailing the history of her life in the sex business. In 2012 the book received an Honorable Mention nod from the National Leather Association Writing Awards.[11] At the time the Xlibris Publishing House cancelled production of her book Miller released an email she received from Dana Scott, Manager of Operations at Xlibris.

The statement included, in part, “We reviewed your book and the materials you submitted and we are sorry to inform you that your book Pervert will be cancelled due to the reason that the content has very explicit sexual content. As per our policy, manuscript content should not be overly sexual…”

Current Activities Miller lives in New Mexico but still travels U.S., hosting or guesting at programs, workshops and engagements that focus on BDSM support, the history, culture and etiquette of BDSM, and hypnotherapy. She also speaks in vanilla venues like MENSA and writing conferences. Many of her talks there also focus on hypnosis/relaxation/meditative techniques towards bettering one's life.

Miller also keeps active in the BDSM community while staying intimately connected with PEP.

^ http://www.nancyava.com/pervert ^ https://leatherati.com/news-to-abuse-mr-ps-leather-pervert-banned-erotic-wrestling-12897991c165 ^ http://www.hawkeegn.com/bdsm/janhis.pdf ^ http://historyofbdsm.com/2012/03/nancy-ava-miller-interview/ ^ http://www.nancyava.com/about ^ http://www.backdrop.net/sm-201/index.php?title=Ruth_Cole ^ http://www.nla-international.com/LINKS/1990-05.pdf ^ citation needed ^ http://archive.li/rSi1z ^ http://www.nancyava.com/node/13 ^ https://leatherati.com/news-to-abuse-pervert-romp-bdsm-education-90856b1fd2ab

Oddjobtk (talk) 06:49, 29 April 2017 (UTC) Mike /Oddj


 * Hello, Oddjobtk.
 * First a minor point, a draft article should be in the Draft; page, not the Draft talk: page. In fact it seems that you have copies in both places. The more up to date one should be moved to the Draft: page. The Draft talk: page is for discussing the draft and how to improve it.
 * Secondly, on a brief scan this looks like an interesting and possibly notable subject. But your cited sources do not yet demonstrate this notability. For Wikipedia to have an article about a person (or indeed any subject) there must be coverage of that subject in multiple published, independent reliable sources. These should be sources such as scholarly writings, books, newspapers, and magazine articles, or web sites of comparable function and reliability. Also, the subject must get significant coverage, not mere passing mentions, inclusion in lists or directories, or trivial or routine coverage. Blogs and other one-person sites are generally not considered to be reliable sources, nor are wikis and other sites with user-generated content. Some web-sites follow a blog-like format, but have significant editorial control and verification, and may be acceptable as sources.
 * Things written by the subject may be cited for uncontroversial facts, such as a birth date, a list of works published, or an educational history, but do not contribute to notability.
 * On a quick look, most of the sources currently cited appear to be blogs or by Miller herself. These sources will not contribute to notability, and the blogs should normally not be used at all, unless they are by recognized experts in the field.
 * I suspect that the sources needed are in fact out there, but they must be found and cited for the draft to be promoted to article status.
 * It is generally a bad idea for there to be multiple copies of the same article text on different pages in Wikipedia.There should be only one copy, which can be linked to from other pages as needed.
 * I hope this is helpful and not discouraging. Fell free to ask furthr questions here, or try posting at the Teahouse. DES (talk) 07:17, 29 April 2017 (UTC)