User talk:Odenwald Monkey

February 2023
Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Dirk Niebel, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 01:11, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

March 2023
Hello, I'm HMSLavender. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person   on Thomas Strobl, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast 02:01, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

April 2023
Please refrain from using talk pages such as Talk:Mein Kampf for general discussion of this or other topics. They are for discussion related to improving the article in specific ways, based on reliable sources and the project policies and guidelines; they are not for use as a forum or chat room. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. See the talk page guidelines for more information. Thank you.  General Ization Talk  02:53, 12 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Once again, Wikipedia's article talk pages are for discussions about improving the article. They are not for idle speculation, expressing personal opinions, or other general discussion about the subject of the article.  Your comments on Talk:Adolf Hitler and Talk:Mein Kampf have been of that nature, and have (mostly) been reverted.  Please do not continue to edit in this manner. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:18, 12 April 2023 (UTC)


 * In that case, this matter may be researched and discussed somewhere else, let's say Municipal Councils, Trade Unions, Universities, Judiciary, Legislature and Parliaments. After those deliberations have been published, they may be referred to for expanding the articles in Hitler and Mein Kampf, on Wikipedia. Is that the right understanding?Odenwald Monkey (talk) 06:16, 14 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:reliable sources for our policy on what sources are acceptable to use on Wikipedia. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:45, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

The matter is under research since some time, though has been hampered by the baggage of history. In due course, suitable sources will be published.Odenwald Monkey (talk) 01:31, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Not if there are no actual facts behind it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:52, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

The people who know, certainly do know. It will be published, first elsewhere, then also on wikipedia.Odenwald Monkey (talk) 12:49, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Change of title
In a number of articles, you change the title of a publication from "Furst Dich frei, Spas dabei, Die Bonner Thesen zur Denazifizierung" to "Furst Dich frei, Spas dabei, Die Bonner Thesen zur Entnazifizierung". Why, and do you have a source for this change? Beyond My Ken (talk) 15:32, 18 April 2023 (UTC)


 * These newspapers are no longer active, though the archives of the town library have the articles, which my friends in Bonn have referred to. EntNazifizierung is German, Denazification is English. The term DeNazifizierung is a misnomer.Odenwald Monkey (talk) 22:30, 18 April 2023 (UTC)


 * It may be a misnomer, but the English language term is "denazification", which may have influenced the German usage at the time. Since you have no reliable source to support the changes you made, I will be reverting them.  Please don't make changes or add information to Wikipedia articles based on hearsay.  It you feel strongly about this, have your in Bonn friends send you an image of the title using "EntNazifizierung" and post it for verification. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:36, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

My friends in Bonn are looking into the matter, very discreetly, as it is a sensitive matter from some perspectives. Odenwald Monkey (talk) 03:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Why? Just look at an archival copy and tell you what it says.  It's not like anyone's asking them to open up someone's grave. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:06, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * They are working on it, as I have previously said.Odenwald Monkey (talk) 04:31, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Mein Kampf
I see nothing in Shirer to support your addition to this article. References cited must directly and explicitly support the material added. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:14, 1 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Shirer has written more than five pages on the authors' paradox. It's being spoken about in all the pubs in Germany.Odenwald Monkey (talk) 20:19, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * What's being talked about in "all the pubs in Germany" is not relevant here, since that's not a reliable source. Where are the "more than five pages" that Shirer wrote about the "authors' paradox"?  There's never been any doubt that Hitler was visited in prison by, and took ideas from, other people, but that's a far cry from saying that someone else wrote the book. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:24, 1 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Maybe not here but certainly elsewhere. Hitler was too dumb to write more than 25 pages about himself alone. When the truth comes out there will be more than pandemonium in Europe. Did the publishers remove those five pages in Shirers book?Odenwald Monkey (talk) 01:40, 2 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Here is a link to the 1990 edition of Shirer on Google Books: . Please use the search box to find one of the "more than five pages" which discuss the "authors' paradox" and post the page number here.  I can find nothing like it in the 1960 edition that I own. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:05, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Regardless of what is written and published in the official version of the book, "Rise and Fall of the third Reich", it is a simple matter to speak to the grandsons of the Prince of Hannover and General Ludendorff, after the second pint of beer.Odenwald Monkey (talk) 08:52, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Out of sight from the Schlosser and Burgen, one goes for a long walk in the countryside, and relishes the rustical atmosphere in the Alm-Huetten.Odenwald Monkey (talk) 10:28, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

A warning
This is a little more serious than you're taking it. You added material to Mein Kampf which re-stated your pet theory that Hitler could not have written the book because he was too stupid or too uneducated to do so, and that it must have been written by others. To support that, you cited a specific page in the 1990 edition of Shirer. Because I have the 1960 edition of Shirer, where (I believe) the pagination is different, I read the entire section on Mein Kampf and could not find anything which supported that theory. Thus, you apparently deliberately added unsourced information to a Wikipedia article, and provided a reference that you knew did not support that information. That's a serious violation of editing protocol, and doing so again will almost certainly get you sanctioned.So here is my formal warning to you: if you once again add unsourced information to an article, or provide a false source for anything you add, I will file a report on ANI and ask to have you blocked from editing. If you continue to add comments to article talk pages which float unsupported theories of your own, cluttering up those pages and violating WP:NOTAFORUM, I will similarly seek to have you blocked.You should consider this to be a  final warning .If you're actually interested in improving Wikipedia articles, if you're not here simply to chat about your pet theories, or to troll us, then you need to get yourself together and edit correctly. Stop this garbage about what your friends in Germany are saying over their beers and follow the rules. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:29, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I have now checked, and the pagination of the 1960 and 1990 editions of Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich are the same. In addition, page 114 - which you cited - is a blank page between the end of Book One and the beginning of Book Two. Thus you either cited the wrong page number, or you deliberately cited a blank page.  Having learned this, I am tempted to report you right now, but I will instead stick to what I wrote above.  If you pull a stunt like this again, I will report you as WP:NOTHERE to improve this encyclopedia. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:36, 2 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I was referring to the original manuscript of Shirers' book, before proofreading, editing and publishing. Mein Kampf was written as a collective effort, in various Burgen and Schlosser, by Generals, Dukes and Nobility, and some frustrated Industrialists, and right wing politicians. Also, who writes about Philosophy, the State, the People while sitting in jail, and without a University Education. Hitler was only reading the manuscript through, and understood less than half of it. Hitler was an idiot and rascal rolled into one, as is proven by history. Also, if you ban me, should i make a comeback as the Black Forest Chimpanzee. Odenwald Monkey (talk) 19:21, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Where is the original manuscript of Shirer's book available so that your claim can be verified. All information on Wikipedia  must  be verifiable.Your closing comment looks to me to be a threat to sock, which is not allowed here.  If you are banned, YOU are banned, your person, and not simply your account. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, your claim to have been referring to the original manuscript is clearly untrue, since the reference you provided included the date of publication and the publisher. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:35, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Did W Shirer just sit in his office all day long, or did he travel around and talk to interpreters, cooks, gardeners, boatsmen, hoteliers, chauffers, boy scouts, pastors and so forth? What did he say to his cousins?Odenwald Monkey (talk) 03:40, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 * William L. Shirer was a war correspondent for the Chicago Tribune, the International News Service, and the first reporter hired by Edward R. Murrow for CBS. As such, I assume that he did whatever war correspondents needed to do to get the information they required to accurately report what was going on. His book Berlin Diary recounts his time in Berlin, so if you actually want to know what he did all day, you should probably read that.  Maybe it might even say what he said to his relatives.In any case, what does it have to do with his original manuscript, or with why you deliberately used a false reference to promote your pet conspiracy theory? Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:07, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 * "Mein Kampf" had more than one author. Hitler did not have the ability, IQ or knowledge to write "two volumes" all by himself in eight months time. Hitler had many visitors in the Landsberg prison, who brought him the manuscripts to read prior to publication. It is a hoax of 29th century history that a High School drop out wrote a chapter on Philosophy and the State Odenwald Monkey (talk) 06:20, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hitler did not "drop out" of Realschule, he completed the final examination before he left. Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:16, 4 May 2023 (UTC)