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untitled comment stuck on my user page
Hi Ogress, I'm not sure how to message people here or if this is the right way or not, but thank you for the info you provided earlier to me. (It does seem kind of odd that there is no actual messaging function.)

I have noticed what seems like many articles on medicinal plants being decidedly negatively biased. While the authors will make their claims appear to be backed up by scientific studies, I have found that there frequently exist many studies which are completely left out or not mentioned.

With the Ginkgo article I added information related to several studies which did show beneficial effects with the best possible citation sources I could find (many journal links are either non-existent or else paywalled and it seems inappropriate to me that an online free encyclopedia dedicated to free information would put a premium on citing original sources if they are paywalled.

I noticed that not long after my edit that the changes were summarily reverted without so much as any discussion in the Talk area. I have since added information there but no one has responded.

I will definitely investigate the information you have provided and better acquaint myself with the workings of Wikipedia and try to avoid a "war".

Thank you again. --F. Pacifica 05:45, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Your comment at AN3
Regarding your recent comment at AN3. Could you clarify the bit about 'tripartite list' and 'eight years old'? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 22:30, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I did so at ANI in the section. Ogress smash! 23:03, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Gojoseon
I've made an infobox based on my proposal at the Gojoseon talk page. I'd like your opinion about it. Cydevil38 (talk) 02:11, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Also, if I may be so bold, I'd like you to think over the BOLD, revert, discuss cycle principle and consider how this principle was reflected on your edits on Gojoseon. This would've been much more amiable had you engaged in discussions earlier as you have now. I'd like this to continue without any hostile distraction, so in good faith, I'd like to ask you to cancel the 3RR charge on me. Cydevil38 (talk) 03:26, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't you dare try to gaslight me. Ogress smash! 03:42, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry if you took offense. I hope we can go about this without further edit warring and hostility. Cydevil38 (talk) 03:50, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

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Using IP
I'll log in once the SPI is done 121.161.79.71 (talk) 21:25, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * It is against wiki policy to edit while logged out. If this is some kind of weird protest, it's not effective. Ogress smash! 21:27, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

It's not a protest. Anyways, I've had more trouble retrieving the password than I thought, I'll be using this account now. Cydevil3800 (talk) 21:51, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Shakya Demographics
Hello Ogress, I see that you have removed my addition of demographics in Shakya article saying that the article is about 2500-year old kingdom. So where do I add the details regarding the present day demographics of the Shakya people ? Should I create a separate article for that (which I do not believe is required). ? Did you read the citations provided ? Please Guide. - Illuminaati — Preceding unsigned comment added by Illuminaati (talk • contribs) 21:55, 14 August 2015 (UTC) Please answer at Shakya talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Illuminaati (talk • contribs) 22:02, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Why are you reverting my edits?
Bhaktamara Stotra is very important in Jainism by Acharya Manatunga
 * That doesn't matter if it is uncited. Remove it until you can cite it. C'mon, this is the most basic Wikipedia skills. Ogress smash! 08:33, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Ariana Grande's Religious Affiliation
Hello. All I did was reword the fact that she left Catholicism to get rid of any biased language against Catholicism, i.e. "disillusioned." I added or removed nothing, simply reworded it. My edit is fine; just look at it. TheALmighty66 (talk) 15:53, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Those were the words used in the actual article. Maybe you don't know what disillusioned means because it's not a word that is "biased". This discussion belongs on the talk page of the article. Ogress smash! 17:20, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The actual article being cited uses biased writing; we don't need to bring that into this. The way her page looks right now is fine & I think we can all agree it's A-okay for everyone. TheALmighty66 (talk) 04:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for telling me what I think, I'll be sure to get back to you next time I need to have an opinion. Ogress smash! 04:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Taegeuk symbol is from Ancient China
# This is traditional Chinese sports racket. This photo shows Taegeuk is not South Korean culture. I am South Korean but I need to tell truth.--햄방이 (talk) 14:20, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The truth is told: you have no idea how Wikipedia works. Ogress smash! 17:41, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Tsering Shakya
Do you think he was a monk at some point? I've always wondered about that name. – Greg Pandatshang (talk) 22:05, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe he had to pick a surname as a refugee? I don't know, but it's really unusual for Tibetan people to have surnames. I'm from Cambridge, which is chock-full of Tibetan refugees as well as monks and nuns at the div schools there and I've never met anyone with a last name or who had the name Shakya. Ogress smash! 22:13, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, I always assumed there was some special significance to the name, but, since Tibetans often have two given names, maybe his mom just decided to name him sha-kya. – Greg Pandatshang (talk) 04:07, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

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Removal of foreign language spelling
I've noticed that you're removing Devanagari and Tamil spellings all over the place. Can you please explain your reasoning for removing these relevant pieces of information? Thanks!

Update: I didn't see your comment about WP:INDICSCRIPTS at first. Perhaps we can include the regional script somewhere else in the article instead of outright deleting it?
 * The issue is that there are 20 official languages in India, and I absolutely guarantee that if you put one, the other 19 will arrive soon after. This is the English Wikipedia, not the Wikipedia that lists 20 versions of a name; stick the name in one (or two if applicable) languages in the Infobox. There is also no point in listing both the IAST and Devanagari, as they are identical and while the first one is easy to learn for people who use Roman letters, the second is gibberish and not helpful.


 * Also, please sign your posts. Ogress smash! 23:10, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Hariti
Great! Joshua Jonathan  -  Let's talk!   06:45, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * That conversation is out of control. But yeah, Hariti was always my favorite ever since I ran into "Kannon-with-Baby" in the pre-internet ages and painfully hand-researched her origin in libraries in Japan. (Can't do that anymore, I miss my ability to read and speak Japanese.) Ogress smash! 14:12, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

IAST spelling on chakra
You reverted an edit made by me changing the spelling of "cakram" to "cakra". I must advise you that "cakram" is the Hindi spelling while "cakra" is the correct Sanskrit citation spelling (yes, "cakra" is napumsakalinga and thus 1st person singular is "cakram" but citation style in articles is still "cakra"), see http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/monier/. "Cakra" is Sanskrit - not Hindi!


 * I somehow missed this entire comment, sorry. Cakra- is a neuter noun, which end in -m in the nom-acc case. It's not uncommon to see neuter nouns have the endings attached in scholarly literature, mostly because it's not affected much by sandhi and to differentiate it from homonyms that are masculine. After all, cakra in the masculine is Tadorna ferruginea, the pretty duck in the picture on the right. ==>


 * This is also the case with (masculine) nouns in -nt, such as arhat, which, if we are using the same standard of using the quotation/raw form, should appear as arhant-, but doesn't. I don't know why.


 * But I bowed to your argument because I wasn't interested in making a fuss. Ogress smash! 14:25, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
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Unwarranted editing to Simdega Page
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 * You are really going to try to tell me it was unwarranted to revert this, where you claim Simdega in Jharkhand was named for hockey: and Sadri language, where you deleted its origin in the language tree from Bihari languages and just wrote in "Prakrit"? If you want to talk about whims and fancies it'd be you. You must provide citations. Ogress smash!  16:43, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

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