User talk:Oknazevad/Archive 25

Akane Yamaguchi
Hello. Help copy edit. Thanks you. Ledsm (talk) 13:00, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, not a subject I'm familiar with. oknazevad (talk) 13:01, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Ledsm is a sock: Sockpuppet investigations/Haiyenslna. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 15:29, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

New discussion on Major airlines talk page
Happy New Year to you. I failed to format your name correctly, which meant you didn't get a ping on the discussion, hence my notifying you here. Would like your input. Thanks! Spintendo 03:29, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

MOS:NOTSEEALSO
Hi there Oknazevad, regarding your revert here at One World Trade Center, I don't think you read the part of MOS:NOTSEEALSO, which says "As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body". The links are both present in the lead, so it need not be repeated in a See also section. But not to worry, as those two links have already been removed by another user. Thank you. AshMusique (talk) 10:23, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I missed that they were repeat links. I usually remove those myself. Perhaps a more descriptive edit summary where you say that's why they're being removed would help. I usually just say "removing redundant links", because that's also the principal per MOS:LINK. oknazevad (talk) 12:32, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Passaic-Bergen Rail Line
Template:Passaic-Bergen Rail Line has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Mackensen (talk) 02:16, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Types of chocolate
I understand your concern with adding words that you do not want to read to Wikipedia, too wordy for reverting an article upgrade and passionate contribution that is in progress is a bit barbaric considering the size of the edit and the edit not being vandalism, and still being in progress. You can be assured you will be impressed with the improvements once the article is done. There are many major developments in the chocolate industry and the laws in each country cause changes, this article is being restructured to accommodate consumers, entrepreneurs, scientists and lawyers. By pulling out major components like the international bodies that have jurisdiction over the industry does not bode well in the idea of Creative Commons. Problemsmith (talk) 16:08, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not about not wanting to read them, it's about being incorrectly used in modern 21st century English. Wikipedia is a general interest reference work and should be written in plain English, not archaic uses that no longer hold the meanings that are intended. Keep it simple, and avoid loquaciousness for its own sake. oknazevad (talk) 23:27, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Blocked user returning as IP?
I note that the latest change to Trois-Rivières Aigles (Frontier League) by 67.71.147.60 contains elements of a change by Manon1972 which you reverted. -- Pemilligan (talk) 02:36, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Patently obvious block evasion. Thanks for pointing it out. Will bring it to SPI. oknazevad (talk) 08:11, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

And again: User contributions for 70.50.4.138 -- Pemilligan (talk) 19:33, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:SPI is the place for these things in the future. The sock master is blocked on both the English and French Wikipedias. Apparently he lives in Quebec, which is why his obsession is with the indy leagues that have teams in that province. Also it may not actually be one person but a guy and his son(s) who all can't seem to understand that they're wrong, but I digress. I've already filled the report for this latest bit of block evasion, but if and when he returns, you can pretty easily file a report. Just search for the username Kaepertank on the SPI page and it will bring up the template to fill out. oknazevad (talk) 01:41, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Infobox - Undisputed Era
When you edited the infobox in the Undisputed Era article, you moved members to former. Upon doing that, you left. I fixed it, but next time put N/A so it doesn't leave. Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 14:50, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. Probably something that should be fixed at the template level. A defunct faction shouldn't have to have anything listed for members, just as defunct bands don't list any current members. oknazevad (talk) 16:06, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

EWR Hotels
I see you completely removed my edits the Newark Airport article where I added a section about hotels to facilities. I think the hotels should be added to the article, especially ones that are on the airport's property. A good article Calgary Airport and JFK airport both have sections about hotels under facilities, so I think the section should be added back. Also if I add it back what do you think I should do to make it more compatible with the WP:NOTTRAVEL? Have a good day or night!

-Jibreel23 (Jibs23#0023) — Preceding undated comment added 03:34, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * If it's to include anything about hotels, only the one actually on airport property should be mentioned. That's what the articles on Calgary and JFK do. Other hotels off-property are not actually part of the airport and aren't worthy of inclusion. oknazevad (talk) 11:49, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Alright thanks. -Jibreel23 (Jibs23#0023) — Preceding undated comment added 15:34, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Leather
Hi there. The discussion here seems to be progressing suboptimally, so I've gone for a WP:3O. Chumpih t 09:57, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. oknazevad (talk) 14:48, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Well, that went nowhere. No response from 3O at all. So, in the interest of figuring out consensus, I'm going to lay out that your additional sources are correct and valid, but remain unconvinced that it constitutes a distinct category that needs a separate entry. Relative to the result of the section it constitutes a new addition. (I missed the addition and would have objected to a separate entry sooner had I seen it.) Therefore per BRD it should remain out of the article entirely until consensus is reached, but I agree that mentioning "genuine leather" as a label is needed, so I thought it was already a good compromise to incorporate it as such. oknazevad (talk) 15:08, 21 March 2022 (UTC)


 * the debate is still there on the talk:Leather page. A ping would have helped.  I've reworked the wording to further clarify, with good sourcing.  Pity about the 3O.  Chumpih  t 03:56, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Designated hitter
This is in regards to your reverting my changes. I agree with you absolutely that this change in the designated hitter rule is not official yet, but I also disagree with your reverting my edit because I never claimed that it was official yet. Indeed, I was careful to note just that--that this is a proposed rules change, not as yet a done deal. Given that there is a reference to this proposed change at MLB.com itself as well as many other places, the change is notable even if not yet official. I agree with you that the MLB owners still need to make the change official, but notability for Wikipedia purposes is not determined by a vote of MLB owners. There is sufficient news coverage of this change to make it notable already. I plan to restore my edit, adding an additional note about the owners' vote next week. I would also add that since, according to my provided reference, the owners' vote requires only a simple majority, the chance of approval is very high--high enough to make the fact that the rule change is being discussed very notable. Dash77 (talk) 23:42, 26 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I also added a reference noting that approval of the rules change is expected. Dash77 (talk) 23:53, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, you made it much clearer. There's been a bit of gun-jumping on this one, so I may have jumped the gun myself on reverting. oknazevad (talk) 00:44, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Semicolons
Correct. Thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Los_Angeles&action=history. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 17:18, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Regional Pizza edit/deletion in error.
My addition of Spokane Style pizza was deleted in error, and referred to as nonsense. There are three news stories on this pizza variety which either have aired or will air in the Spokane region within the past week. Please research more thoroughly before calling my beloved hometown pizza “nonsense”. It is offensive to all the citizens of the Pacific Northwest. KREM and KLXY have both run news segments in Spokane-style pizza. Drosenfan (talk) 15:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Add sources to the article. It fails verification without those sources. oknazevad (talk) 19:31, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Looked into it further. The very sources you claim state it's a hoax. Either you're using Wikipedia to perpetuate a joke or you're unable to actually read your own sources. Either way, it does not belong here. Attempting to re-add it again (after it's been removed twice now) will result in a block. oknazevad (talk) 22:02, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

If you had bothered to fully read those sources, there were many who vouched for the validity of Spokane style pizza as well. Some commenters in the article clearly stated that they remember and had eaten Spokane style pizza in the past. I reject your heavy-handed, authoritarianism over regional pizza varieties. At most, you could say it is up for debate, but you cannot definitively say it does not exist. Have you ever even been to Spokane? Drosenfan (talk) 15:06, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not the only one to remove it. Take it to the talk page. oknazevad (talk) 17:15, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Milk chocolate
Please read my edit summary and if you still disagree, take it to the talk page. I see no reason to mention Peter in both the 1st and 2nd paragraphs, and I don't see Dutch cocoa mentioned in the article as part of Peter's invention of the milk chocolate bar. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 10:12, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You're right. I completely missed the mention in the second paragraph. My bad. oknazevad (talk) 10:14, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick response and agreement, much appreciated. Doug Weller  talk 10:18, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Mets Uniforms
Hey! Sorry for leaving you hanging. I put this out on Sportslogos.net to try to verify. As a fan of a team that has John Sterling as the radio voice, I'm unsure if announcers necessarily have more reliability than Walt Disney World bus drivers and wanted to see if anyone with inside knowledge may know. The problem is that the league has stated there are supply chain issues with uniforms, so a number of teams have been unable to get looks on the field. Thus it's been impossible to verify if it's a new rule or supply chain issues that are the reason for any team's current looks and I can't count on what's been worn to verify if looks have disappeared. But I'm keeping a look out. I saw someone messily cut the extra alt out. Once everything is clear, I will be updating the images and have kept from updating the patches until I can be sure what each team's look actually is. --The Silent Wind of Doom (talk) 17:33, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I do know for a fact the blue road alts are gone; in addition to Howie Rose, Paul Lukas of Uniwatch noted it in his MLB season preview back in late March (along with the removal of the blue packet piping from the black alternates). It's paywalled, so I'm not sure if you can access it, but that might be a good source for general updates across the teams. oknazevad (talk) 21:07, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah.  Also, the Rockies and Braves seem to have dropped alts as well.   Doing one last attempt at confirming and I'll run through and update everyone. --The Silent Wind of Doom (talk) 18:21, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Awesome. This is always a great service of yeoman's work that makes the encyclopedia better. Know that I always appreciate it. oknazevad (talk) 22:47, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

The CW: REVTALK and 3RR
Good morning and good day editor. I've noticed you have recently been involved in what could easily be considered a minor edit war. I do understand that in all likelihood this conflict is borne of two editors who both wish to improve the article, and I hope you assume as much as well. But please be aware firstly of WP:REVTALK, the discouragement of editors from using edit summaries to discuss and debate changes. Our best practice in these instances to is to create a talk page section, even if you are the one reverting the attempted edits. I would also like to remind you of wikipedia's bright line three revert rule, which states that under no circumstances (relevant to the edits in question) should a page be reverted by the same user more than 3 times in a day's time. This is a rule that REVTALK often leads to being broken (usually constituting an edit war) without people realizing it. This message is just a friendly reminder to keep Wikipedia rules in mind, and and invitation to create that talk page section if the other editor hasn't already, particularly if this conflict continues. Thank you for your time, GabberFlasted (talk) 12:59, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

List of off-Broadway theatres
Hi. I haven't see you at Off-Broadway for a while, and I wondered if you would take a look at the list of theatres, and see if you think all the newer additions to the list are OK? Happy editing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:06, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Only one I would definitively keep is Theatre 555, mostly because it's explicitly called "off-Broadway" in the reference (which is to Playbill, pretty much as reliable a source as one can get). The AMT isn't properly sourced (it has the 555 reference, which is clearly incorrect) and it's own website says 99 seats (ie, off-off-Broadway) The Connelly's own website (used as a ref) specifically calls it off-off-Broadway. The Asylum is not referenced at all. And the 14th St Y is a general auditorium, not a dedicated theatre. I'll make the edits. oknazevad (talk) 21:25, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:31, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

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My apologies for almost an edit war too fast
Oknazevad, I am sorry for my mistakes. I will not talk about edit war too fast. Editors know what edit war means and I apologize for that. I hope you will accept my apology. Hold the blocking and please accept my apology. If successful, we will move on. Thanks. 24.80.117.27 (talk) 01:36, 25 June 2022 (UTC)