User talk:Okra1919

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Travis Johnson (March 6)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

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KylieTastic (talk) 21:22, 6 March 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm curious as to what would be significant coverage if not a review in The Wire, the world's leading print journal of contemporary music, which is certainly reliable, secondary and independent. Or as to how an artist is not notable when their work has appeared in Spain's national museum of 20th-century art, which also houses Picasso's Guernica.
 * I don't mean to be impolite, but the criteria for notability seem either terrifically high, or terrifically vague. I'll see what other print sources I might be able to find and add more references if possible. Okra1919 (talk) 21:53, 6 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Although I do not have access to the full Wire issue "Travis Johnson" is not listed in the contents so I wonder how significant the coverage is? The second source is a blog so not usually a reliable source and is just a passing mention. The third source does not even mention them. So no the criteria for notability are not "terrifically vague", we start by expecting the sources to actually cover the subject. KylieTastic (talk) 22:42, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I apologize for my tone yesterday; I think I was, in fact, impolite and arrogant. I was entirely too tired to attempt my first Wikipedia article, which is my own fault. Sorry, sincerely.
 * The third source does mention the subject if one clicks through to the exhibition program. I've added a direct citation of the page from which one can access a PDF of said program, if that's more acceptable. Perhaps it would have been better to replace the old citation instead?
 * The issue of The Wire does include a column (including biographical information) devoted to the subject. I would consider that significant, though I have disclosed my bias, significance is not, of course, exactly quantifiable. I unfortunately cannot provide a copy of the issue. One needs a paid subscription to access it online.
 * I'd like to continue searching for more printed material that can be cited. I know it's out there; I just never bothered save any of it, I'm afraid.
 * Thanks!
 * Okra1919 (talk) 17:50, 7 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey Okra1919, thanks for the apology and no worries - we all have bad days. Writing new articles from scratch is often considered the hardest thing to do here and the Wikipedia concept of notability is confusing to many at first. Note, there is no real time-limit (drafts only get removed after 6 months of inactivity) so take your time to find any sources and add. Unfortunately some subjects are tough to find sources for making it a hard task. I have several people in the music industry I would love to write articles on but even though they are popular enough not enough has been written (that I can find). Good luck with it and remember if you need any advice about editing and the confusion of polices do ask for help at the Teahouse. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:39, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Travis Johnson has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Travis Johnson. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 06:46, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Travis Johnson (composer) (June 13)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DreamRimmer was:

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DreamRimmer (talk) 04:43, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Travis Johnson (composer)
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 05:06, 13 November 2023 (UTC)