User talk:OldSpot61

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Cheers, cab (talk) 23:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Geographic Location box
Hi, Thanks for your contribution to Somerset but can I ask what the purpose of the Geographic Location box is? The article already includes maps & links to more & I can't see that this adds anything. I note you are adding these to several counties & wondered whether you had considered discussion this first at WP:UKGEO?&mdash; Rod talk 12:39, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hello, Rod. Thanks for pointing me to WP:UKGEO. I'm going on the wiki principle of trying out a change and letting others keep it or not as they wish. As you'll have seen, I've been doing this gradually, precisely so I can take account of any objections or suggestions for improvement. The only revisions I've had so far have been improvements, e.g. including sea areas, including NE/SE/SW/NW neighbours as well as N/E/S/W, including Pas-de-Calais neighbouring Kent, etc.
 * I'm inserting these GL boxes because I feel they're a very useful way of getting information about a group of communities, going from one to another. If you take the Somerset page as an example, the map in the Infobox doesn't give the names of the neighbours. You and I know what they are but visitors from other countries may well not know them. The other map in the article has districts within Somerset, not neighbouring counties. The neighbouring counties are listed early in the Somerset article but (1) this is unusual - few other county articles do this - and (2) I feel the information is more easily absorbed from a map.
 * I'll put a watch on WP:UKGEO in case this is discussed further there but please consider my reasons for adding the GL boxes before you revert it in the Somerset article. OldSpot61 (talk) 13:05, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. I haven't reverted it (?yet), but feel that Somerset, which is an FA, has been reviewed by a wide range of editors who felt it included all necessary information. I personally don't like the layout of the location box, but will start a discussion on UKGEO, where your comments/explanation would be very welcome, to find out what the consensus is.&mdash; Rod talk 13:09, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Earlier this week, someone proposed the Geog Loc box as a template-for-deletion because the layout isn't all that great but the unanimous response was Strong Keep / Speedy Keep, at least until someone writes a template which is better and at least as easy to use. OldSpot61 (talk) 13:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I've now started a discussion on UKGEO but noticing you've just added one to Bristol makes me think that you may have a problem with ceremonial counties v unitary authorities etc. Bristol is actually north of North Somerset and Bath and North East Somerset, rather than the bits of Somerset within Somerset County Council & I don't know the best way to resolve this.&mdash; Rod talk 13:20, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm working from the Ceremonial Counties map. I didn't realise that only is Bristol a county in its own right but it's been one for 600 years! I could do infoboxes for unitary authorities/ districts-within-counties as well but I thought I'd do this gradually with counties and just see where we get to. In any case, doing this for districts would be a big job. OldSpot61 (talk) 13:25, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe they have some use where an article is underdeveloped (your eg Allier) but not so much where an article includes the information (eg Idaho), but I think it is the appearance and (large) size which I find personally off putting. There might even be someone who claims that because it assumes North should be up it is politically biased towards the northern hemisphere - but I don't want to make a big issue of it.&mdash; Rod talk 15:58, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

<- "it is the appearance and (large) size which I find personally off putting" I agree but I don't know of any alternative at present. OldSpot61 (talk) 16:03, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Back in 2007 someone added it to Chew Stoke which I was taking to FA at the time - I didn't like it then & still don't, but it's still there. I don't think we need to look for "any alternative" but as I said "I don't want to make a big issue of it".&mdash; Rod talk 16:22, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of OldSpot61/Sandbox/Geoloc2
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 * Instead of deleting, I realized that this should have been in the userspace. So I moved it to User:OldSpot61/Sandbox/Geoloc2.  Happy editing, Gosox(55)(55) 20:14, 10 January 2010 (UTC).

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Fred Goodwin
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