User talk:Oldelpaso/Archive 4

Hynds & Buchan
Based on what I had in my books, plus a little extra Googling, I have created stubs at Tommy Hynds and James Buchan (footballer) (who was a half-back, FYI). Hynds is often referred to as plain Thomas in some texts so maybe that's why you've had no joy with the matter? I'm just pleased with the fortuitous timing - today is the 100th anniversary of his Arsenal debut. :) Qwghlm 23:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * No worries - it was a pleasure. Beats reverting vandalism, anyway. Oh, and that mcfc stats site is a real horror - what made them do it in Flash? Qwghlm 21:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

A bizarre unsigned comment
hey mate! i did it becuase ben is asking for a whopping and ill give it to him after what he did to my uncle Pedro —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Boytoy7 (talk • contribs).

allfootballers.com
Yes - I am a subscriber and find it very useful for researching past players. Soccerbase is superb for active/recent players, but of no use when creating articles on players from the 60s and 70s or earlier.

I must admit that it's difficult to find out the cost, but after a bit of digging, I've come up with this:

18 Months subscription £18.88

12 Months subscription only £14.99

1 Month subscription £5.00

I hope this helps. Daemonic Kangaroo 05:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

My RFA
Hey, thanks so much for supporting my recent RFA. A number of editors considered that I wasn't ready for the mop yet and unfortunately the RFA did not succeed (69/26/11). There are a number of areas which I will be working on (including changing my username) in the next few months in order to allay the fears of those who opposed my election to administrator.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you sincerely for your support over the past week. I've been blown away by the level of interest taken in my RFA and appreciate the time and energy dedicated by all the editors who have contributed to it, support, oppose and neutral alike. I hope to bump into you again soon and look forward to serving you and Wikipedia in any way I can. Cheers! The Rambling Man 18:12, 11 January 2007 (UTC) (the non-admin, formerly known as Budgiekiller)

Space Corp.
Space Corp. was not invented in a single day. It has been in the planning stage for several months. Some of the best minds in the student body at Washington High School are working on it. EPWH 22:25, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Rangers F.C. Peer review
Thanks for the comments, I'll get to work on the improvements suggested. Archibald99 21:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Tommy Browell
I take it the book didn't specify an exact date of birth? If not, I think we're going to be hard pressed to find it elsewhere. Still, narrowing his month of birth down to October or November isn't too bad going. ;) - Dudesleeper 22:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for remembering to check on that. As an aside, there's a faction of Wikipedia who regard trivia sections tantamount to a stake through their left scrotum (for the male half of the faction, natch). With that, how would you suggest we slide the note about the Manchester street being named after him into the main body of the article? I don't see an obvious juncture, unless it goes after the sentence on his passing. Do you happen to know if the honour was given during his lifetime or posthumously? - Dudesleeper · Talk 14:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

RFA announcements & barnstar
Oh really? Cheers for letting me know, will keep it in mind. HornetMike 19:08, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That's very kind of you. Thanks very much! HornetMike 19:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of Manchester United F.C. players
Haha thanks! I hope I didn't have to make you go through much trouble! Thaurisil 10:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

UEFA Stadia List
I made something wrong. I forgot the list was last updated at Feb 2006! So some of the stadium not on list. http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/4and5stars.html Sorry. KyleRGiggs 20:18, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

The reason why I found the problem is I found Şükrü Saracoğlu Stadium, which held the 2009 UEFA Cup final, not on the list of that website, so I think the edit should be reversed. KyleRGiggs 02:36, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

The Definition of UEFA Intertoto Cup winner
I have started the discussion of the definition of the UEFA Intertoto Cup winner. Please go ahead for discussion. KyleRGiggs 11:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Username
I love your username --PrincessBrat 13:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

AfD and prods of Howling Terror
Hi, I notice you have nominated Howling Terror for deletion at WP:AFD and also that you have prodded his three albums: Sampler 2004, Sampler 2005, and Sampler 2006. Given that the fate of the albums hinges solely on the fate of the musician, I suggest bundling your AfD nomination by adding the three albums to it. Otherwise, we may get a result where the AfD is kept and the albums are deleted (if, for instance, there is a backlog at AfD). Cheers, Black Falcon 03:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

"Messages"
Dear Oldelpaso,

I recieved a 'you have new messages' box when I visited a page on wikipedia:

"Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did in Manchester City F.C.. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Oldelpaso 18:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)"

I've never met you before and I haven't posted anything to your precious football page so could you sciency-geeks please refrain from annoying the normal and just get on with editing the worlds most incorrect and bias (and alleged) encyclopedia.

Many thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.188.250.247 (talk • contribs).

Tottenham Hotspur
The other day you posted about having to reference the history of Spurs. Are you saying the list of books isn't good enough? Govvy 13:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Your advice please
As the only person ever to have given me any advice on here, can I please ask for some more? I've tried hard not to be nasty here, and I may well have gone a little bit over the top with my initial posting, but I'm not too happy with being called a "racist idiot" on this entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gareth_Bale

What should I do? Thanks Blogdroed 23:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice ... sorry, I couldn't help but point out some more inaccuracis in his arguments - I promise not to bite again though ;) Blogdroed 00:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Robert Bernard Fowler
This is what he is known as dating back to the mid 90s. When he scored, we would say 'Robert Bernard Fowler' what a legend, etc. Londo06 08:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Liverpool F.C.
Good work on your recent copy edit of Liverpool F.C.. However, there's just one small detail I'd be inclined to change back (or change to something else again). You changed "The succession of winning managers appointed from within the club's staff is worthy of note" to "The succession of winning managers were all appointed from within the club's staff" - I believe the original sentence is better (although it could possibly be clearer) in performing the function of introducing a paragraph outlining the Shankly- Paisley- Fagan "Boot room" succession. It's not really a biggie (and it's nitpicking considering how good the rest of the edit is), but I can't help but think that para is an important part of Liverpool's history and the opening sentence as it stands now just doesn't seem to work. Robotforaday 21:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism at Squash rackets page
Hello oldelpaso -- I see your "last warning" to vandal 195.8.168.107 who has struck several times recently at the Squash (sport) page. Could you deal with this 'person' please?

Thanks

Peter Eedy

Peter Eedy 00:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Nomination for adminship
 Johan Elisson would like to nominate you to be an administrator. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Johan Elisson to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Requests for adminship/. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so. I wish you the best of luck! – Elisson • T • C • 20:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

You're a sysop!
Hi,, Congratulations on Becoming a Sysop! Hey there. I'm pleased to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator! You've volunteered to do housekeeping duties that normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops can't do a lot of stuff: They can't delete pages just like that (except patent nonsense like "aojt9085yu8;3ou"), and they can't protect pages in an edit war they are involved in. But they can delete random junk, ban anonymous vandals, delete pages listed on articles for deletion (provided there's a consensus) for more than one week, protect pages when asked to, and keep the few protected pages that exist on Wikipedia up to date.

Almost anything you can do can be undone, but please take a look at The Administrators' how-to guide and the Administrators' reading list before you get started (although you should have read that during your candidacy ;). Take a look before experimenting with your powers. Also, please add Administrators' noticeboard to your watchlist, as there are always discussions/requests for admins there. If you have any questions drop me a message at My talk page. Have fun! =Nichalp  «Talk»= PS Please add you name to WP:LA! =Nichalp  «Talk»=  09:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Congratulations!!! - Alison ☺ 09:37, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, Simon! All the best, Sarah 10:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Well played! Look forward to working with you. --Guinnog 11:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Congrats!  Daniel Bryant  13:28, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats from the nom! I knew you'd make it! – Elisson • T • C • 15:02, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome. Good stuff, and personal thanks to your contributions to the wiki world of football.  Enjoy! The Rambling Man 19:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Get in! Congrats on your promotion. - Dudesleeper · Talk 22:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Mariners FAC
Again, thanks for your suggestions on this, and another congrats about your recent RfA!

With regards to your objections, I think I've done everything. The Colours and badge section I'm still fishing around for, but hopefully I'll find something to add within the next couple of days. I'd be very appreciative if you could re-assess your stance, and if required clarify any of your continued objections. Cheers, and congrats again,  Daniel Bryant  06:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)
Hi, seeing you have been involved in previous Afd debates I invite you to contribute to this discussion to clarify certain issues about football player notability. I think clearer guidelines are needed to avoid repeated inappropriate nominations for deletion and time consuming discussions. Cheers! StephP 17:39, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Ipswich Town F.C.
Hey Oldelpaso, just wanted to pop by to thank you for your comments in the peer review of the ITFC article. You may be interested to know it achieved featured article status today. Thanks for your comments and for helping us achieve the article's promotion. Cheers! The Rambling Man 08:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ditto for the Central Coast Mariners FC article when at FAC. Thanks for all your insightful suggestions. Cheers,  Daniel Bryant  00:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Vote!
Following your contribution to the discussion on football player notability you might be interested in voting on this. Rgds, StephP 10:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

thanks for the info..ebin viswanath 15:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

NCFC peer review
As always, thanks for your comments at the above. I (or some other editor) will most certainly respond to each of your points in detail in the very near future. Thanks again, please keep supporting us in this positive and constructive manner.  All the very best [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man 21:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Estádio do Maracanã
Thanks for your comments on the peer review! I greatly appreciate your help. I agree with you that the article needs a section on the 'structure' (or architecture) of the stadium. The other bits about the track and the 'jutting out bit' are interesting questions too, I'll find out. I have one question of my own though, it's about the citing of facts given in the article. Most of the info I used in the article was taken from the Sambafoot article about the construction of the stadium. Do I need to put s after each sentence which uses a fact from the article? I think that would pollute the page with square brackets a bit... what do you reckon? Again, thank you, and congrats on becoming an admin. -GilbertoSilvaFan 22:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Protection requested
Could you please semi protect the page for Cuauhtémoc Blanco, as he is receiving lots of vandalism at the current. Thanks! м info 03:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, no problem. м info 00:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Congrats
Congratulations on your promotion to administrator! Put the tools to good use, even if it does involve football :). Use them wisely, and I hope to see you around the project.

Don't forget to polish that Barnstar I gave you last year every once in a while. Cheers! If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 21:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Back Fc
Hmm reliable sources? thats a poor excuse because how many Wikipedia pages are truly based on the Media... Anyway, [www.backfc.com] is the clubs official website. This national newspaper keeps track of the Highland amateur scene from time to time [www.pressandjournal.com]. This newspaper which mainly covers the Isle of Skye, but takes in the western isles from time to time covers the scene And this local newspaper, local to the whole of the Western Isles, has the best infomation about the side, and the league we play in. Actually they just had a whole broadsheet page dedicated to us just this week I may add. There obviously not not on the website right now because the local season just began on Friday, and the newspaper comes out every thursday... and just to add to what I said in the WikiProject page, we have also supplied a player to the USA national side, and he went on to captain the national side.

So if the guidlines are just some advice, what are the guidlines. There is no guidlines, hence the page will be legit :)

I am also seeing the the pages from clubs in these league aren't being deleted. Who play in the exact same level, and are registered in the exact same association, Scottish Amateur Football Association.

These are the league pages of the clubs:

Central Scottish Amateur Football League Kingdom Caledonian Football League Scottish Amateur Football League

So can I please just go ahead and make the page again? As I think I've put up a solid argument, with alot to back me up as to why the pages was unfairly deleted. I'll make an new page later on today :) Allanmac9 12:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Your not making sence mate. Double standards - why do Oban Saints F.C. etc have a page?

Explain to me why they deserve a page and my club doesn't?

--Allanmac9 13:40, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

The Scottish Amateur cup is only open to lowland clubs, or its just clubs from there that enter. ITs a regional competition. Like the Highland Amamteur cup is the regional competition to the Highlands, so both cups are on par with each other - and Back FC won the cup in 2004! And have got tot he quarters on all occasions since then. The club has also beaten numerous Highland LEague sides since then, and beat the Scottish Amateur National side 4-0 two years ago. The club has also won the local region (Highlands and Islands) a place in the UEFA Regional Amateur Cup (Not sure what its actually called) where the best region from each country get to go and compete against the best regions from other countries, our club won or region that by beating the winners of the other regional cups(ie the winners of the Scottish Amateur Cup) Its exactly on the same par with these clubs.

So...?

Allanmac9 15:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Plus I had written a hell of a lot more than all the clubs in the Leagues I mentioned. Plus theres no junior football scene in this part of the world, and the clubs up here can't enter into the Highland league due to the costs for them, and for the other clubs. Because the Highland league is more of an East of Scotland league, rather than the Highlands as a whole. Allanmac9 15:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

We're not really here
Hi, and thanks for the advice - I've promptly deleted my paragraph, and will have a scout round for a some more official references and perhaps a more definitive answer as to the origins of the song. I suppose i didnt choose an easy subject for my first wikipedia addition! Kinkladze28 10:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Wigan Athletic
I have posted this message on the talk page of wigan athletic but i'll post it to you also. I am a wiganer and happen to know that the record attendance at the JJB is 25,023 for wigan athletic vs liverpool in february (it was 2 months after the manchester city game) of the 2005/2006 season. To my knowledge no other attendence has surpassed that at the JJB so far. Wiki235 15:27, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Oldelpaso, Thanks for the Running Man Barnstar; I am honoured! Cheers, --Daveb 09:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

RE- Francis Lee
Well i was under the assumption that you couldnt copy from other websites. And i would copy this information from a website if it was on a website but it isn't this is coming from my father. So perhaps you should research my claims and then replace the information back on the page, as it's all true. Look into it then apologise, he was a racehorse trainer, NFL player, lancashire leagues cricketer. And read Peter Kays biography to see if that fact is true. Ask anybody in horse racing to see if thats true. You are a fool and obviously a know it all, however you clearly don't. Why should he have a depleated article, when he has achieved so much. And so what if its a conflict of interests, nobody could add this information as it's from my father. You are a small brained idiot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nikky88 (talk • contribs) 10:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

Re: FYI
Re your message: Thanks for the alert. I checked the Dolphin's All-Time roster and there's no evidence of him playing for them. You would think their "Player of Season" [sic] would have been listed. I thought everything Nikky88 has added is suspect, so I'm glad that you were able to find sources for some of the things. I'm still a bit concerned about the diving part and his nicknames. Since you are much more familiar with football than I, I'll defer to you to check that (I wouldn't know where to start). -- Gogo Dodo 23:24, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

John O'Shea & Wayne Rooney.
Im from Manchester and i support Manchester United, and i know that people call them John O'Pie and John O'Shite, and call Rooney Spud Head. So i don't understand why you have deleted my edits to them pages. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jonbagnall (talk • contribs) 15:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC).

DYK

 * Hey, just wanted to leave a note saying "That's great" that it got included in DYK. =) Great work cleaning that up. -- Gogo Dodo 05:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Nicknames in infobox
The consensus would like to see the nickname field removed, but the editing of the infobox template is limited to admins. Would you mind doing the necessary when you get a chance? - Dudesleeper · Talk 14:46, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Norwich City F.C.
Hey Oldelpaso, hope you're okay. Thanks for your comments on the Norwich City F.C. peer review. I just wanted to let you know that User:Dweller and I have implemented a load of changes and have now nominated the article for WP:FA. If you'd like to make a comment, you can find the discussion here. Once again, thanks for your time and interest. The Rambling Man 16:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Gillingham
Not to worry - can you give me half an hour to fix up the references (I am midway ATM) and some other bits and bobs, then you're free to edit as you please. Ta... Qwghlm 19:07, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * OK done. I don't think I undid any of your edits in the process (the diffs are quite complicated and it is hard to see) but if I did then apologies. I should have stuck up an "inuse" notice from the start of my tinkering. I'm happy with the state of the article as it is now, so feel free to cast your eye over it again and make any more corrections. Qwghlm 19:27, 23 April 2007 (UTC)