User talk:Oldjanegallagher

Martin MacNeill
Hi,

Thanks for chiming in on the Martin MacNeill article. For the time being, I reverted the edit because the cited source for the sentence said that the suicide happened in January. Do you have a source for January the 16th?

If so, that would be great. It was probably an oversight, the kind of thing I catch myself doing, too - but when you get a source for the 16th, then the sentence would read "on January 16.." vs. "in...".

I hope you enjoy wikiediting!-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 00:39, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi,

First off, my apologies. Novice here! Here's my source confirming the January 16th date: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=47304699

The reason for my edit was that I thought it was interesting that Damian's suicide happened one day after what would have been his mother's 53rd birthday. The source for Michelle's birthday would be on this site: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=20333943

Thank you for taking the time to get back to me. I appreciate the feedback. Oldjanegallagher (talk) 01:12, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok, cool! Thanks for the feedback and your open spirit! It's generally better to get a newspaper, etc. A number of editors frown on use Find a Grave in general because much of the information is provided by users without an editorial control function that would be present with secondary sources: books, magazines, newspapers, etc. (See: External links/Perennial websites and Secondary sources) But, I use it as a source for information that comes from the gravestone / headstone itself if there's no other secondary sources and there's a photo of the gravestone. In the case of the son, there's no photo of a gravestone, so that's out on several levels.


 * There is one for Michelle
 * To format the citation, for example, it's:
 * which would appear like:


 * For the son's birthdate, do you mind doing a search on his name and date of death and see if you can find a news article? I think that there may be something at CNN, for instance. If you could find one for Michelle by querying her birthdate that would be better.


 * Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any questions.-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 01:42, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

While I cannot find a NEWS ARTICLE stating such, I have come across other insightful sources, which I would consider to be valid. The youtube tribute video of Damian MacNeill was made by one of his sisters and shown at his funeral. The video states his date of birth as well as the date of his death in the very beginning (and in the info section). Let me know if these will suffice...

Damian MacNeill date of birth/date of death: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/deseretnews/obituary.aspx?pid=139008375 http://www.tributes.com/show/Damian-A.-MacNeill-97442636 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBXfZjIrmVM

In the meantime, I will do what I can to find additional information regarding Michele's date of birth. And any other information in general. Oldjanegallagher (talk) 02:23, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The Desert News obituary is a news article and is perfect for Damian! That's all that you need! Obituaries are often an amazing source of information for biographical articles. Good work!-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 02:52, 14 May 2014 (UTC)