User talk:Oliver Olive

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Oliver Olive
A tag has been placed on User:Oliver Olive, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as FAQ/Business for more information. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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Appeal
I feel that the content and edits are appropriate to Wikipedia as the user page is to be used for "Significant editing disclosures", "Notes related to your Wikipedia work and activities" and "Reasonable personal information" as explained in the [Wikipedia:User pages]. Through your Speedy Deletion tag I did learn about the User Page tag and placed it on the page. Oliver Olive (talk) 17:07, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, Oliver Olive, may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it the user/username is a corporate mascot for Vigo Alessi company and thus no different than an account established under the company name itself. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may file for a change of username, or you may simply create a new account and use that for editing. Thank you.  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 17:27, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Suggestions?
I chose the name Oliver Olive because it ties my entries directly to Vigo, but not to one of the owners specifically. The character is only known to 5th graders in the Tampa, Florida area, and then only ones who have been on the tour. We usually sign in with Vigo-Alessi which is clearly a violation. There isn't really a common username we use and we want to be responsible for our entries.

The physical representation of Mr. Olive is a lifesized standup of a guy wearing a tux who has a huge, round green head with a big smile on his face. He stands next to the olive oil tanks holding a board of stats about gallons, filtering, etc.

Thanks for the note. I will happily use a different username but don't really have an idea of what it might be and we didn't want to use a random name.Oliver Olive (talk) 18:03, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Should I even do a User Page?
The user page seemed to be, from reading about it, a page where a contributor put their info so others might review their legitimacy, not encyclopedic as the user page says. I do feel that there is information that I should add, especially in Vinegars which is missing an entire type of vinegar, but I don't want to violate any terms of community. Is it okay for a contributor to not have a user page? If so, how do people verify that the contributor has a clue about their topics?Oliver Olive (talk) 18:07, 29 July 2010 (UTC)


 * My opinion: This account is probably going to get blocked per WP:NOSHARE. Since this is clearly a multiparty account from what you say above (i.e. you're editing for a group, not just for yourself), you probably ought to abandon it and establish a new username altogether that just represents you, individually, then disclose on the user page your relationship with the company if you're going to be editing articles about it or about things involved in its business.


 * While it is possible, currently, to edit without being logged in, you'll get a few advantages by being logged in and — though it's not at all proper for other editors to feel this way — you'll be taken more seriously and with less suspicion.


 * As for your final question about editors having a clue about the topics that they edit, the expertise of the writer is irrelevant here since all edits have to be verified by reliable sources if they are not to be deleted. We judge edits, not editors. Introducing ideas or opinions on the basis of one's own expertise without documenting them through reliable sources is, indeed, forbidden here as original research. Let me end with a word of friendly advice: Though it may not look like it on first blush, there are strict policies on what subjects and content can and cannot be included in Wikipedia. Without a working knowledge of Wikipedia policy it can be very frustrating to try to write an article or add information that won't be challenged or deleted. I've tried several times to write a better introduction to editing than can be found at the Article Wizard and Your First Article and I can't. Don't be tempted to skip past sections of either one, they're full of solid gold information. Also, if you've not done so already, you need to read the Notability, Verifiability, No original research, What Wikipedia is not, and Conflict of interest policies from beginning to end. Good luck with your editing,  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 19:02, 29 July 2010 (UTC)