User talk:Omilc

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August 2022
Hello, I'm Yae4. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to GrapheneOS have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. ''Special:Diff/1104804801 added un-encyclopedic info sourced to only a primary source, with multiple (spam) links. Special:Diff/1104809771 added a long paragraph sourced only to a source previous consensus determined to be unreliable or marginal at best. Special:Diff/1104835190 removed 2 weasel word tags while adding more weasel words.'' Yae4 (talk) 18:00, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


 * hi, which part of the page do you feel is advertising? shouldnt Special:Diff/1104804801 be ok since it is only used for its basic facts, in this case its history (Identifying and using primary sources), also another page also had a similar section. i also wonder why you feel its link spamming as each source links to a different part of the website. i also wonder why you removed the part about its extended support releases, other sources on the page link to the same website (mobilesyrup) Omilc (talk) 22:22, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Advert - currently, 2nd paragraph of History through Features section. Link spamming: See Special:Diff/1103166514 and edit comment link. We only need one link to official website, and we don't need to copy the website to wikipedia. The extended support release wording, to a disconnected reader, was vague, weasel-worded, and nearly meaningless. As previously stated on Talk:GrapheneOS I am not thrilled with mobilesyrup source, but tolerate it, if it is used neutrally and with due weight. -- Yae4 (talk) 23:19, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * thanks for your input, but please be more specific about which part of you feel is advertising, ill try to make it less so. i also feel that having basic information about its version history ok, why do you feel its unencyclopedic? please also explain why do you feel extended support release is vague and weasel-worded? to me its very clear what it means and it also has its own page Long-term support, redirected from "Extended-support release". why do you feel that the use of the mobilesyrup source in this case is not neutral? Omilc (talk) 00:22, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * See WP:PROMOTION and links from here: Advertising -- Yae4 (talk) 13:21, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * There's also an older discussion Talk:GrapheneOS/Archive 1, although consensus (between me and User:Yae4) seems to have since then shifted more towards deprecating sources from Mascellino at Android Police for factual statements. Whether a short (heavily toned down) statement in the reception section is warranted or not is up for debate. 84.250.14.116 (talk) 11:22, 19 August 2022 (UTC)