User talk:Ondrako

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Hello, Ondrako, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate encyclopedic contributions, but some of your recent contributions, such as your edit to the page Rich Froning Jr., seem to be advertising or for promotional purposes. Wikipedia does not allow advertising. For more information on this, please see: If you still have questions, there is a new contributors' help page, or you can. You may also find the following pages useful for a general introduction to Wikipedia: I hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Feel free to write a note on the bottom of my talk page if you want to get in touch with me. Again, welcome! Jauerbackdude?/dude. 16:14, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
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I was trying to add factual information to Rich Froning Jr's page and it was removed - citing that the line was "promotional" in nature. I would like to make my contribution within the guidelines, can you help with this? The sentence right before my latest addtion reads "In early 2015, Reebok released a shoe designed in part by Froning which bore the name of the Bible scripture tattooed to his side, the Reebok CrossFit Compete 6:14.[6]" --- how is that not promoting a show by Reebok?

Thanks for your help.

Ondrako (talk) 17:08, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi there. I think you've inadvertently falled foul of one of the essentials of Wikipedia - that only factual statements are added, and that references are provided to allow anyone to check whether what has been added is true. You see, you simply added something without supporting it with evidence. OK, you might have read or heard it on the news, but the rest of us haven't, so we need you to prove it with a citation(See reliable sources) and citing sources).
 * By putting that right up in the lead paragraph, rather than later down on the page where it probably belongs, it could be interpreted as being a bit promotional. Often out of necessity, the comments we have to lead other editors may seem rather curt. Don't be offended by that - you've done the right thing by asking. I do tend to agree with you that the preceding entry is also rather promotional and the assertion of a a tattoo linked to the scripture simply isn't supported by the YouTube promo video.Hoping this makes sense. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:46, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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Adding sponsors and brands that athletes invest in to their page, even when cited, is considered WP:PROMOTIONAL, which can create actual legal issues, unless it somehow is notable unto itself (such as Air Jordan). Adding a non-notable brand that the athlete may or may not have invested in is considered WP:TRIVIA. Also if you are in anyway affiliated with HIBR as your only edit pertain them, you must absolutely read the conflict of interest guidelines. Thank you, Yosemiter (talk) 17:12, 8 March 2018 (UTC)