User talk:Onel5969/Archive 117

Archive 117: August 2023

Clarification
Looking through the history, I noticed you added the text "Wikipedia articles are generally written based on in-depth, independent, reliable sourcing with some subject-specific exceptions relating to independence." in this diff. I am confused about what "relating to independence" means here. I asked at Wikipedia_talk:Notability but received no response so I am hoping you can help me understand. Thanks, Ca talk to me! 10:48, 2 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi. That was a result of an RFC back in 2021, which I referenced in the edit summary.  It's been archived, so it might be difficult to find, so you can find it at Wikipedia talk:Notability/Archive 72.  I didn't have a dog in that hunt, simply closed the discussion and then edited the section as per the desired outcome.  I can't speak to what the editor who wrote that copy meant, but only my interpretation of it, which I do not think is what you want.  You might want to ask some of the active participants in that discussion, or the editor who made the RfC proposal.  Onel 5969  TT me 11:03, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Middle East Eye
Hi,

I noticed you reverted the changes I made to the article: Middle East Eye. I wanted a better explanation than "Not an improvement"

The changes I made include new sections and the style and structure follows that of other news websites such as Al Monitor and The Intercept.

Can you please explain how and why you came to that judgement - otherwise I will revert back to my edits.

Thanks Sabotage1 (talk) 12:22, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi. I've added a comment at the article talk page to try to get discussion of this edit started there.
 * By the way, on a separate topic: I came here to thank Onel5969 for edits to Carrier Sekani Family Services. I was away from Wikipedia for a long time and it's been many years since I've created an article. I really appreciated seeing a sign that someone had noticed my article. I used to do New Page Patrol but have forgotten how; thanks, Onel5969, for all your work on that; and your edits to Carrier Sekani Family Services were quite correct, fixing my mistakes. ☺ Coppertwig (talk) 15:11, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Nancy Van de Vate
The list of her compositions is an orphan intentionally. I don't know where it comes from - most likely copyvio from her website - I wonder if it should be deleted. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:06, 3 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Lists like that, in my dealing with copyvios, do not really fall under the copyvio rule, since you can't paraphrase that information. I usually go to user:Diannaa or user:JustLettersandNumbers for copyvio questions.  I agree that made sense to split it from the main article, and that made de-orphaning it very easy.  Onel 5969  TT me 11:00, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Oops, thought I was helping you out on that page. Edit conflict. Apologies. Onel 5969  TT me 11:01, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Relief about the copyvio - I was afraid. After someone formats it, it may be linked, but right now, I think the list in the bio, with only sourced info, does the better job, and as it's planned for the Main page, the malformatted thing looks just awkward. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:33, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Leonid Alaev
Onel5969, hi! Sorry my bad English. I learned that Leonid Borisovich died on July 31. Could you look at the article about him again? I think I made the necessary adjustments --Мит Сколов (talk) 19:56, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

New page patrol school request
Hello, I would like for you to teach me at the New Page Review training program, thank you. 64andtim  (chat)  05:18, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Question!
Hewwo! If you had a fursona, what species would it be and why? Brat Forelli (talk) 10:54, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Another Review Request
Hello once again @Onel5969,

I have some more articles in NPP which I would like to be reviewed (mostly translated articles). If you're fine with it, can you take a look at the following articles and potentially mark them as reviewed? They are: Artik (singer), Little Big videography, 1990 (Max Barskih album), 5sta Family, Universal Music Russia, Mot (rapper), Karina Kross, and Vanya Dmitrienko.

I also have two articles (Danya Milokhin & Big Baby Tape) that were previously deleted in the past, but I have since recreated them and made sure more sources and content were added (not all of the information in these articles mentioned was/could be brought over, so I placed an expansion tag at the top of each). I wanted to give you a heads up on them just in case you decide to examine them/mark them as reviewed.

If you can do all of them or even just a combination of them, then that would be great. If not, it's perfectly fine. Please let me know what you think of any of these articles. Thanks in advance for your reply, and also for the assistance thus far. Losipov (talk) 21:04, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you, although I'm not sure what article you're talking about.  Onel 5969  TT me 20:46, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

List of American Dialect Society's Words of the Year
I relaunched it after your copyvio nuke. Is there something to put into the talk page, similar to the "Old AfD" template? - Altenmann >talk 06:17, 12 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi. Those AfD templates are added automatically.  And the same for prior deletions.  If you look at the top of the page near the title, you'll see it.  Onel 5969  TT me 20:52, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

New article
Hello I saw that you recently edited the Paul W Draper page. There is a new article at https://www.anthropology-news.org/articles/searching-for-magic/ that might be nice to add to the page. It is from Anthropology News the primary publication of the American Anthropology Association 65.130.169.63 (talk) 03:17, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Akbar Alemi
Hi Onel5969. thanks for edit about this article: Akbar Alemi. this article is not WP:ORPH. reason: had links to Massoud Mehrabi and Khosrow Sinai.best.--Patricia (Talk)  12:47, 13 August 2023 (UTC)


 * It is not about the fact that it contains links to other articles, that's WP:DEADEND. It means no other articles link to it.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:29, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * did u mean:Template:Dead end? ok. try best i will. plz see when ever u had time.best--Patricia (Talk)  14:45, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Akontombra Senior High School


A tag has been placed on Akontombra Senior High School requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://ghanahighschools.com/ghs_schools/akontombra-senior-high/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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 * Hi. Not sure why you posted this on my page.  I didn't have anything to do with that page's creation.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:12, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I didn't think you were, but for whatever reason, you are the editor of record as the creator. The article was draftified.  I am guessing that it may have been moved to draft while you were making your cleanup edits and tagging the article so it saved as a new article. -- Whpq (talk) 04:20, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah. Okay.  Thanks for the explanation.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 08:50, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Jaén thank you

 * Hello, I just wanted to thank you for cleaning up the error that I made when editing the Wikipedia page for Carmelo Palomino Kayser where I forgot to add a Disambiguating link to the city of Jaén in Spain. Rorr404 🗣️ ✍️ 🖼️ 🌐 17:03, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries, it happens to everyone.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 19:32, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Premier League International Cup
Hello, This is Logan Z Man 2022 I was wondering if you could help me out with the premier league international cup page for this year as the tournament is about to start on Tuesday. Logan Z Man 2022! (talk) 17:36, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Help: List of highest-grossing Indian films
Hi Onel5969, please check checkout the List of highest-grossing Indian films page, the page lost its reliability, some movies were removed from the list and the gross numbers were unreadable as they are changed from crores to billions and also so many columns from the list removed due to edits made by the user User:Cinephile4ever. I cannot undo them because of the article protection. Kindly undo them to previous format like the last edit you did https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films&direction=next&oldid=1168017491

Thanks.

RevenueDPT (talk) 12:31, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Christian Triebel
"Academy" was correct here. Seasider53 (talk) 13:57, 19 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Yeah, thanks for catching that.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 14:00, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Co-ordinates
Hi @Onel5969 I am trying to add coordinates to few restaurants pages on Wikipedia but getting error, can you help in which format I should the coordinates? 215 Hackney for example this; latitude 51.56275 and longitude -0.073904.

JanAminK (talk) 15:25, 20 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm not tremendously well-versed in coordinates. You would be better off posting a question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 00:16, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Request
Hello, I created Cumhuriyet Street and Fahri Batıca. Could you help me to solve the reference error problems? Regards, Kadı    Message   23:40, 20 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi. When you use a "ref name", you can only use it with one set of urls.  You were using the same ref name over and over again.  See the edit history of the two articles to see what I did to correct it.  In addition, in footnotes/references, you need to use Gregorian calendar dates.  Hope this helps.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 00:24, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Wrong disambiguation
Hi, I see that you are disambiguating by substituting Rothschild & Co for Rothschild Bank. This is problematic for a couple of reasons. In the case of Renée Vivien, Rothschild & Co was established in 2011 & Vivien died in 1909. Second, the disambiguation that you did at Renée Vivien was for Rothschilds, which in this case was clearly meant to be the Rothschild family. In fact, until today, the redirect was pointing towards the Rothschild family.

I reverted the redirect change. Would you please help fix the damage caused by all this by rescinding your edits? Peaceray (talk) 19:28, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi. I disagree.  While the current incarnation of that bank was instituted in 2011, it's founding can be traced back to 1811, with the founding of N M Rothschild & Sons, which is what I would have dabbed with, except it redirects to the Rothschild & Co. page (which is a correct redirect, imho).  The second one you are correct, and I've self-reverted.

Request to work on TeeMirror Again
Good day @Onel5969 i reached out on an article you moved to draft Draft:Teemirror i want to recreate the article i need your permission because the subject has now finally met the standards for notability and has major press coverage on newspapers and magazines that meet up with wikipedia standards for notability and neutrality as the subject is now an Actor starring on Nigerian popular TV showThe johnsons amongst many other accomplishments that meet up with general notability guidelines i respect you as one of the unbiased wiki editors and i urge you that i will write the article in the best way possible and also add citations that meet up wikipedia standards. Digitalageohio (talk) 19:39, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Review
Hello @Onel5969, how are you mate? Kindly take a look at The Graph.

Regards Corrugateboard (talk) 09:08, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Battle of Chernobyl (disambiguation)


A tag has been placed on Battle of Chernobyl (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a disambiguation page which either
 * disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic);
 * disambiguates zero extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title; or
 * is an orphaned redirect with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" that does not target a disambiguation page or page that has a disambiguation-like function.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:10, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Shah Cheragh attack (disambiguation)


A tag has been placed on Shah Cheragh attack (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a disambiguation page which either
 * disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic);
 * disambiguates zero extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title; or
 * is an orphaned redirect with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" that does not target a disambiguation page or page that has a disambiguation-like function.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:19, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Quick question, in need of help
Hi, as a New Page Patroller, I wanted to cover more ground and participate in the AfC (of which I have been doing for some time). I stumbled across a passage stating that to activate the tool I must first turn on a "Yet Another Article" and lastly clear my browser cache and I should he good to go but I still can't find the AfC reviewer tool anywhere, what could be wrong?.  shelovesneo  (talk) 01:13, 27 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi. It's a tool on the gadgets tab under your preferences. In the editing section, it's titled, "Yet Another AFC Helper Script". You click that, refresh, and it should show up under your twinkle settings under your "more" near the top of the page.  Hope that explains it well enough.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 01:41, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Auchmuty_Sproule#Biography
Dear Editor: When you have the time, could you review this article by me. Thanks! Joan arden murray (talk) 23:19, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Fireaway moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Fireaway. Unfortunately, it is not ready for publishing because it needs more sources to establish notability. Your article is now a draft where you can improve it undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. ... disco spinster   talk  00:14, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Discospinster... not sure why I got this message, I only added a tag and removed a stale inuse template.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 00:52, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure either. I guess the Move to Draft function thought you created the article. ... disco spinster   talk  01:01, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Request
Just noticed that you've checked the new article India national football team at the Asian Games, that I've created. I am thinking of GAN for the article, but the article needs little bit of copyedit. A request, if you feel free to do the copyedit since you are much experienced. I don't want to take it to the GOCE since, I don't have plan of FA nom right now. Let me know. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 18:21, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Seeking guidance
Was this this a good draftification, technically speaking? The page was created in 2006 but the initial and sole prior revision to the band WP:AHIJACKing was a language redirect. I would consider this redirect immaterial from the standpoint of attribution and history retention and treat this as a brand new page. I retargeted the redirect left over from the move to the intended phrase. What would you have done? —Alalch E. 20:24, 31 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Personally, I rarely draftified any article less than a week old. But that's me. Looking at the article, it doesn't come close to passing notability standards, so no harm in moving it to draftspace, as long as you insured the right editor, Bc.rox.all rather than Sandstein, was notified, which you did.  Your move of retargeting was also spot on.  Your interaction with the new editor who created the article was laudable.  Kudos.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 22:21, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot. —Alalch E. 01:55, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Deletion discussion invitation
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gyurkovicsarna. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:32, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

William_G._R._Hind
Dear Editor:

When you get a chance, could you look at this article by me? Thank you, Joan arden murray (talk) 21:13, 31 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Nice job as usual.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 11:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)