User talk:Onel5969/Archive 56

Archive 44: July 2018

NPP Backlog Drive Appreciation

 * Sure you could have . Especially since some folks don't think I really do that much quality work.  Regardless, my goal was to help get it below 1000, so I'm going to continue watching it until they get this autopatrol snafu figure figured out, then go to a strictly maintenance review (around 50/day), to keep a handle on it.  You've done an excellent job at getting more editors involved, so if we all average 25 or so, that should keep it down around this level.  Take care.  Onel 5969  TT me 02:12, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Please stop!
I draw your attention to:
 * This page should not be speedily deleted because it's copyright has been duly acknowledged under the NSW-SHR-CC licence and, it is WP:NOTABLE due to its listing on the New South Wales State Heritage Register (NSW SHR). I draw readers attention to the project to generate articles for all items listed on the NSW SHR, of which this article is just one of several hundred in progress. On the basis of the above, the speedy deletion tag should be removed. Rangasyd (talk) 12:19, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Absolutely my fault, - I missed the attribution on the bottom of the page. Which I had seen on earlier articles, but forgot was there, so when the copyvio results came back, I simply reacted to that. I was writing to an admin when I realized that if the copyvio report was indeed correct, there were a bunch of articles which needed to be looked at when you shot me this message. Thanks.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:32, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Glad you can stop messaging me... lol :-) Rangasyd (talk) 12:37, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Blakewill
Hi, I wish to add a separate page for me, the writer Marc Blakewill, (also part of Blakewill & Harris). It contains new verfiable info. Can you explain why it has been undone? Thanks. Marc Blakewill (talk) 15:32, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - There are 2 issues.  First, there were no independent reliable sources in the article. Second, while the duo might be notable, each of you might not be, that's why we need those sources.  Third, you have a conflict of interest in writing an article about yourself.  As per WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY, they are highly discourged.  Onel 5969  TT me 16:34, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Elizabeth Agyemang
Hello, you added more footnotes tag to this article page Elizabeth Agyemang. I have added more footnotes so is it okay to take off the tag now please? --Celestinesucess (talk) 22:12, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate Newcastle Interchange light rail station
Why was Newcastle Interchange light rail station reviewed and accepted when it has already been posted in its talk page that it is virtually a duplicate of Newcastle Interchange - they are both the same location - we dont need two pages for the same place.Fleet Lists (talk) 23:09, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Ipigott. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Water polo at the 2018 Mediterranean Games – Women's tournament, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Ipigott (talk) 08:54, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Reviewing frenzy
Hello. For the past few days I have been getting many "reviewing" notifications about articles I have created. What is this about please? It seems bizarre all of a sudden.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:22, 2 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi - Something broke on the NPP on 6/29, so every new article/redirect goes into the queue. Even those of admins, sysops, and autopatrolled users. A few of us have been slogging through to "review" those which shouldn't have been on the list, like yours.  Hopefully, it will be fixed soon. We were told it would be fixed today, but as of this moment, still broken.  Onel 5969  TT me 15:26, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * OK thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:27, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Tieling no 3 junior high school
hi there, I just want to know the reason of not regarding the junior high school as a secondary school. In China, the secondary education is consist of two parts: junior secondary education and senior secondary education. Although both of them lasts for 3 years, the contents are completely different. For instance, I graduated in 2015 from the school which the article about it is proposed to be deleted in seven days, then I passed the Zhongkao exam and get a score sufficient to enter the Tieling High School, a senior high school. The article about the senior high is also created by myself. Now I just can't figure out why the school is "not-notable,non-secondary". The no 3 junior school is one of the only two elite junior high schools in Tieling! Sorry for my impoliteness and the inconvience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomskyhaha (talk • contribs) 15:29, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

the Chai River Reservoir article now redirects to the Tieling County article
Sorry for inconvience again, but I'm just feel confused when I found that the article about the reservoir now redirects to an unrelated article. The original article about the reservoir disappered. ps after read some talks above:so I need to add some references and citations then it won't be redirected, right?
 * Hi.  - absolutely.  Just add some references. You can find out how to format footnotes at WP:CIT. Also, please remember to "sign" your comments with four tildes ( like this: ~ ).  Onel 5969  TT me 15:55, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Just a newbie here😊. So I'm considering to move the information about the junior school to a new paragraph in Tieling. Is it appropriate to do so? Thanks.Tomskyhaha (talk) 16:02, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Thanks for reviewing Hank Nelken, Onel5969.

Unfortunately Domdeparis has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

"Sorry but the sources are not enough to show he meets WP:NAUTHOR one is an WP:INTERVIEW the others are passing mentions affiliated or not indepth."

To reply, leave a comment on Domdeparis's talk page.

Dom from Paris (talk) 13:02, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Lucibufagin
Please see comments to you on the talk page of that once-was-an-article. If you agree that a mistake may have been made, please be a gentleman there and say so; if you believe you can further defend the point, that would be good to have as well. Either way, your input is requested. Thank you. 2602:306:CD92:4960:3519:A9F:3960:3C00 (talk) 17:28, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Dragovic (disambiguation)
Rename article Dragovic (disambiguation) in only Dragovic--SrpskiAnonimac (talk) 13:22, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Zooropa Babyface
Hi, please note that I placed sources and information relevant to the Babyface article. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Squaredroot (talk • contribs) 17:54, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Romanian People's Army
You recently reviewed this page and made nice comments on the contributors talk page. I have redirected the article to Romanian Land Forces as all the content was an unattributed cut and paste from there. Lyndaship (talk) 09:20, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that, - how did you notice it was a cut and paste move?  Onel 5969  TT me 12:05, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * There has been a history of an editor using socks to create or add copied content to articles like this. I'm always dubious when a new editor produces such a complex article soon after joining Wikipedia. I did a few Google searches for phrases in the article. There is another give away but I don't want to reveal it here in case a copying editor sees and changes their pattern. Lyndaship (talk) 12:23, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation, and the heads up. I'll be more diligent when I come across such articles in the future.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:31, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Liebe ohne Angst article title move
Hello Onel5969, can you please explain why you have changed the title of the article created as Liebe ohne Angst (1989 film). It has been moved to "Love Without Fear (film)", although I had already created a redirect to "Love Without Fear (1989 film)", so it could be found searching via either language. That is the standard practice with foreign language film titles.

The policy WP:TRANSLITERATE has been put in the editing notes, by way of explanation, but that policy is about using English versions of foreign names, such as place names or ordinary terms, where there is established usage. That is not the same thing as film titles. There must be several thousand German films listed on English wikipedia and the standard practice is to listed them with the original German title, see this List of East German films for examples.

The film in question is only available in German and it doesn't even have English subtitles.

Can you please change it back.Felixkrater (talk) 17:56, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - you very well could be right.  However, looking at MOS:TITLE, in the section dedicated to Manual of Style/Titles, it points you back to WP:COMMONNAME, which I should have noted in my summary, rather than transliterate.  There, the example is given of Seven Samurai (not: Shichinin no Samurai). This seems to indicate that the English version should be used. If there are several thousand articles titled incorrectly, that's a perfect example of WP:OSE. By the way, nice job on the article.  Onel 5969  TT me 18:12, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Yes, Seven Samurai is an established name. That film is well known and has been widely shown in English speaking countries, so it has an established English name. The German film The Lives of Others is another example of well known foreign film being generally known by an English title, so that article title is in English, but most East German films are not well known in English speaking countries. I also think, with this film in particular, it is misleading to have the article title in English, as it implies that it might be available dubbed or with subtitles, when it isn't. If all the East German films have to be moved to English titles, I'm not volunteering to do it ;-). If "Liebe ohne Angst", must have an English title, is it possible that you could fix it so that it is "Love Without Fear (1989 film)" and the redirect being "Liebe ohne Angst (1989 film)" so they properly mirror each other, and that "Love Without Fear (film)" is deleted. Sorry to be fussy as it is only a stub, but I spent quite a long time researching it.Felixkrater (talk) 21:05, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The issue is that you presuppose that commonname only refers to "established names". That's not what it says. It's pretty clear.  Unless the foreign film is widely known by it's foreign name, the English name should be used.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 02:29, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Remembering article: Naic–Indang Road
I feel bad for my article, I didn't even do anything to save it. I wish I could modify some guidelines when it comes to notability of roads in the Philippines. -- hueman1 (talk)  07:24, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Elmidae. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, List of recently extinct birds, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Elmidae (talk · contribs) 12:11, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * (No idea how THAT happened, btw. Don't remember any unreviewing. Presumably an artifact of the back-and-forth there right now :p -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 12:27, 8 July 2018 (UTC) )
 * When reviewing, if I'm going to undo/revert, sometimes I click "reviewed" before making the change. That way it saves me time if the article redirects, to having to go back to the redirect page and click "reviewed" after redirecting. I had just done that, when you undid the change, which I guess prompted the message. No worries. Take care.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:31, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

List of current members of the EU Parliament
Hi, thanks for the review. I've changed the links as you suggested on List of current Members of the European Parliament. Could you check if this is what you expected? Thanks. --Martsniez (talk) 12:26, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - Yes, exactly!  Thanks.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:28, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Personal attacks
Hey - your edit summary here is over the top. Please make sure you are familiar with WP:No Personal Attacks. This behavior can lead to a block. SQL <sup style="font-size: 5pt;color:#999">Query me! 16:36, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * - Sorry, wasn't meant to be insulting. Merely descriptive.  He's been asked not to post on my talk page, and continues to do so, when he isn't blocked.  He has repeatedly used insulting and derogatory terms to myself and other editors, and continues to do so.  He's repeatedly entered into edit wars, and continues to do so. What descriptive word would you suggest I use to describe an individual who continues disruptive, derogatory, insulting behavior over and over again, despite multiple requests and warnings? Let me know, and I'll request my comment be revdel'd. But I understand your point.  Reacted to someone who's insults have gotten under my skin.  Should've shown more restraint.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 16:49, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Dish
Signature dishes are important aspects of a well-known fine dining restaurant. Oysters and pearls are ubiquitous and defining at the French Laundry, as the Waldorf salad is at the Waldorf-Astoria. It's not advertising someone to go there by simply listing the restaurant's most prominent and lasting dish that it's best known for. See this search, showing that signature dishes are very commonly mentioned. Are you in the culinary industry? If not, I could see how you could find this information unnecessary. Yet in the food world, it's pretty important. ɱ (talk) · vbm  · coi) 16:57, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * But that's my point exactly, this isn't a food publication. It's an encyclopedia. Food guides do place importance on items which are advertisements for the establishment. When I'm hiring a food service provider, of course I want to know what they're good at.  When I lease a restaurant for an event, of course I want to know what their specialty is. But those are advertising concerns.  And, imho, there is a difference between a dish which has become world-famous, such as the Waldorf salad, and the signature dish of a relatively new restaurant.  The former deserves a pertinent mention in the article, the latter is merely fluff in an encyclopedia.  If you don't mind, I'll ping someone who is pretty active in the food project,, to get another opinion.   Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 17:04, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It isn't a food publication, but it is supposed to detail the most important aspects of a restaurant, for an article on a restaurant (or restaurant/hotel). And a restaurant's signature dish is among the most important aspects of a restaurant, in the public eye. We can agree to disagree, and try to find other views. But know that I'm as much a Wikipedian as a lifelong worker in the food industry, so I cannot overstate the significance of this. ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 17:52, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I did a tally, and six out of the eight sources listed in the article mention/describe out the dish: virtually every source about the place. The other two are not really relevant to an overall view of the restaurant/hotel, so it's understandable the dish wouldn't be mentioned. Therefore it's pretty clear it's important enough for us to mention it. ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 17:59, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * (Received ping). Pinging . I have replied regarding this matter at Talk:The NoMad. North America1000 04:57, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Togo Air Force
You requested deletion of Togo Air Force to make way for a move, but your rationale implies that you really want to move to Togolese Air Force. If that's the case, then it is the latter that needs deleting and the former can simply be retargeted. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 14:23, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - No.  Was totally unaware of the second redirect.  Was pretty sure I referenced Togolese Air Wing in my speedy request.  That's the developed article on the subject.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 14:28, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, Togolese Air Wing is the article you want to move, but the target you named for the move in your request as the correct name was Togolese Air Force. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 14:35, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Got it, - You're right.  My mistake.  If you could delete Togolese Air Force, I'll move the air wing article to that title, and fix the redirect of Togo Air Force.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 14:38, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Done. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 14:40, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks - the move, etc. are now complete.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 14:44, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Cabinet Erdoğan IV references
I've added three comprehensive references to the article.--Joseph (talk) 20:24, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Nicely done, . Keep up the good work.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 01:47, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

The New Centre for Research & Practice
Great minds think alike ... see here Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:44, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't even look at the talk page, since it was a red link. Will remember to look there in the future.  Nice work on NPP btw...  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 15:25, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit on Nokia 3.1
Hi, I see that you have reverted my edits on Nokia 3.1 on the basis of lack of references, and ultimately, verification. Although I understand that you are merely doing a good-faith edit, but I am restoring the contents and adding sources. I hope you don't mind, and feel free to clear your doubts. Thanks for the good job! --Navinsingh133 (talk) 13:36, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - No issues whatsoever. My only problem with the article is that it was unreferenced. The article could use more references, and definitely needs more footnotes for all the statistics. Thanks for reaching out.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 13:39, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Understood! I will add a long list of references when I will have more time, they are easily available. For now, I have added three references. Thanks!--Navinsingh133 (talk) 15:12, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks - Nice job.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 15:22, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

SK Group review
Oddly, I got three notifications that SK Group have been reviewed. Two are credited to you. But I never edited this article even once, AFAIR/AFAICT. I assume this is a software bug but thought I should check if you have any idea... Wnt (talk) 23:58, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi . Has to do with SK Innovation, a redirect which you created back in 2013. A new editor keeps trying to turn it into an uncited article, and keeps getting reverted.  And then the reconstituted redirect gets reviewed, hence your notifications.  Sorry for the hassle, but really no way to prevent it until the new editor ceases their disruptive editing.

AAAMC
the redirect to Indiana University was a dead link, there is nothing on the school's wiki that refers to the cultural archives of the AAAMC. As to notability, rock and roll was founded on rhythm and blues music, as played by the black DJ's of the era. Without their input where would Elvis, Chuck berry and all the music of the period be? More importantly, seems that any source for images gets scrubbed from wikis and there is no alternative, is there something that i'm missing? CaptJayRuffins (talk) 02:01, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. A knowledge and understanding of what counts as notability on WP. Please see WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 02:52, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Arthistorian1977. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Residential house of Nikolai Panin, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Arthistorian1977 (talk) 15:55, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - any particular reason?  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 18:29, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

External links deleted or allowed / WP:ELNO
Hi Onel5969, I had pinged you on a separate talk page. The policy as it exists states: WP:ELNO

Which in turn directs to WP:ELOFFICIAL, which clearly states:

Which is followed by: WP:ELMIN

Social media should only be deleted if a link to one is included in the subject's official website, if one such official website exists. DA1 (talk) 15:27, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * No, we also delete social networking if there is no link on the official website. That has continuous consensus.  ‘Only one’ is the only reason to leave 1 social networking site if no official website exists (and option 2 of ELOFFICIAL, quoted above, could be a reason to remove those as well).  —Dirk Beetstra T  C 18:25, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You're allowing yourself to misinterpret what I've written above. I am alluding to the fact that all socials can only be removed if they already exist on the official website. Barring that, we allow one (1) social link per subject as pointed out above. Your 'consensus' is referring to anything beyond the (1) social link. I am not talking about removing 2nd or 3rd links which is established consensus. Some users misinterpret WP:ELNO to assume "social media" in general is barred (0 links) which isn't the case if they read the first line (which redirects to WP:ELOFFICIAL and WP:ELMIN). – DA1 (talk) 18:40, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * My apologies if I misunderstood. —Dirk Beetstra T  C 20:02, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Patrick James McGinnis
Hi. I'm trying to submit a draft for review in the above space, with an article of the same name having been deleted previously for violation of a block or ban. I've taken the content, cleaned up the refs and changed some of the wording and submitted it for review twice but the user Smartse has deleted it both times for proxying (I'm trying to have the draft reviewed for payment from the user who published the article the first time). I've reached out to Smartse to ask him what I'm supposed to do next in order to get the draft a fair review since he keeps deleting my drafts but I've had no answer in nearly a week. Is there any input you can provide on this? Davykamanzi → <b style="color:#0AE;">talk</b> • <b style="color:#ED2;">contribs</b> • <b style="color:#264;">alter ego</b> 21:uh40, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You can't reuse content created by a blocked user. If you want to create the article, you need to start your own version completely over again. SmartSE (talk) 09:41, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * And what if my own version ends up being similar to and using many of the same refs as the previous content? I don't understand how you'll be able to discern the difference when the subject of the article is the same and as such the info on the subject will all be almost the same. Davykamanzi → <b style="color:#0AE;">talk</b> • <b style="color:#ED2;">contribs</b> • <b style="color:#264;">alter ego</b> 00:03, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * And why did you need to delete the draft in my user sandbox when the content is not in the draft space or main space? Davykamanzi → <b style="color:#0AE;">talk</b> • <b style="color:#ED2;">contribs</b> • <b style="color:#264;">alter ego</b> 00:54, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * If you start it over again, it's very unlikely that it will be the same. For starters, the deleted version contains unverifiable and promotional content, so if you write a version of it properly, then this won't be an issue. G5 applies in all namespaces. SmartSE (talk) 09:39, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Reading what you said more closely: I'm trying to have the draft reviewed for payment from the user who published the article the first time That's really not ok and if you had pointed this out initially as you should have done at Draft talk:Patrick James McGinnis then I would have told you that. You're acting as a meatpuppet for a prolific abuser of Wikipedia: Sockpuppet_investigations/Mamadoutadioukone. SmartSE (talk) 15:21, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure I left a disclosure on Draft talk:Patrick James McGinnis (a parallel one is still visible in my talk page), but that aside, the big question for me is how you would be able to determine whether a new draft I submit was completely rewritten from scratch if the information ends up being similar to that present in the drafts you've deleted. Davykamanzi → <b style="color:#0AE;">talk</b> • <b style="color:#ED2;">contribs</b> • <b style="color:#264;">alter ego</b>
 * The disclosure was Given you wrote "an intermediary" rather than Mamadoutadioukone it's seems likely you knew what you were doing wrong but did it regardless. If you start an article from scratch it will be obvious whether it is your own work... if a new one appears out of the ether... probably not. There's nothing more to say. (Sorry for co-opting your TP Onel5969). SmartSE (talk) 19:23, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Whew. All I have to say is thanks for handling this !  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 21:36, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Is it ok if I ask?
How do you find all the newly created pages? I've managed to review like two articles during my whole Wikipedia career.★Trekker (talk) 13:59, 14 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi - First, you have to have NPP rights.  Go to the project page and request them.  Once you have them, there's a good link at the top of my talk page in the section Other Useful Links.  It's called "New Pages Feed".  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 14:04, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Good to know, thanks!★Trekker (talk) 14:07, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

A goat for you!
Thank you for reviewing my redirects!

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Hey
Feel free to delete that, I meant to make it a user page Echo9001 (talk) 17:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Lee Denson
On May 1, you added the {Notability} tag to this article. No problem with your actions at all. However, I have recently expanded the article and included several referenced sources. Do you think that the tag can now be removed ? I have some doubts about his notability, so would welcome a second opinion. Thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:02, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Nice additions,, but I'm still on the fence. This is a case, imho, of true borderline notability. In such cases, I tend to lean toward keeping. Put it another way, I wouldn't argue if someone removed the notability tag, but don't feel comfortable in removing it myself.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 01:18, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Yeah, I feel a bit the same.  I will ask for another couple of opinions from elsewhere.  Thanks all the same.  Regards, Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:42, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


 * No worries - btw, excellent work on the raw links stuff.  One of the most overlooked, and important functions for the long range status of WP.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 13:55, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Stephen R. Donaldson
Hello dear sir. Regarding the revert of Stephen R. Donaldson, I am very disappointed you did it. It is common sense to split such lengthy bibliography staggering the article with appropriate Category:Fantasy bibliographies. Tolkien, Jordan, Feist, Eddings, Bujold, C.J. Cherryh, many more are listed there. So I don't understand this "lack of attribution" you just pointed before reverting it. Really. It is common sense, but obviously you think otherwise. I disagree, but I hope to come to resolution and maybe see it redirected with little mention of his major works and hope that it has new article as I did on many of these authors and serves its purpose. Really. I don't wanna argue with you, but why you reverted it? What do you mean by "lack of attribution"? Attribution is synonym to "ascription". Also "function" in my language. Don't you think that seperate "list of works" can serve purpose? I don't wanna argue with you, Sir. Thank you.
 * Regards:The Mad Hatter (talk)
 * I have no problem with the list, but when you cut and paste, you need to provide attribution, so that the history of how that information was included in WP satisfies copyright obligations. I had just asked a question about a similar issue to, so perhaps they can chime in and point both of us to where we can find out how to properly attribute a cut and paste split.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 14:39, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello O and MH. deals with these quite often. I know that an edit needs to be made that shows in the edit history that uses this kind of format  . There is also an edit that can be made to the talk page adding a box like the one here Talk:Filmmaking technique of Akira Kurosawa. I haven't used either of these for awhile so I don't know if the formatting has changed so hopefully, P or D can correct any misinfo I might have given. Best regards to all. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 14:49, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree and I think we can do it with not such pressure, because I have done it before. I can put a note on the talk page of propsed List of works by Stephen R. Donaldson, if that's what you mean by "attribution", friends.
 * Regards:The Mad Hatter (talk)
 * Oops the template I used in the above post is the one to use on the talk page. This Attribution: most of the content in this article was moved here from  on 23 June 2017. Please see the history of that page for full attribution is the one to use as an edit summary - My apologies for the mixup. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 15:01, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Ishita Ganguly (TV Actress)
Hi,can you please tell me reasons for redirection of this page.As I had edited this page as per Wikipedia rules, provided enough reliable sources insuring the independence of the person.Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asim543 (talk • contribs) 10:39, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Archived page for Article Najib Razak
1. The mainpage is Najib Razak 2. The talkpage is Talk:Najib Razak 3. The archive talkpage is Talk:Najib Razak/Archive 1

Please do not redirect the archive page to User:Najib Razak/Archive 1 because that article is not a "User", it is an archived talkpage for the said article. Thanks - Jay (talk) 20:04, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * By the way, I have requested for the "User" page that you redirected to, to be deleted under 'speedy deletion". It has been deleted, and I have restored back the original archive talkpage Talk:Najib Razak/Archive 1 - Jay (talk) 20:55, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * By the way, there was no "original archive talkpage". There was a malformed page in the mainspace which you have now corrected the original error in its creation.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 01:32, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Nicole Chesney
Hi B. Draft:Cypressavenue/sandbox had been moved from Cypressavenue/sandbox, I moved it on to Draft:Nicole Chesney, and I was about to post a welcome message and a {{subst:uw-draftmoved}} on creator's user page when I realized that Nicole Chesney already exists. That article was created on April 5, 2018, whereas Draft:Nicole Chesney was created on August 20, 2017. Comparing them, I do not see any clear signs that the current article was copy-pasted without attribution from the current draft, and I have consequently declined the draft. Have a look at it and let me know what you think. I tagged Cypressavenue/sandbox with R2. Evad37's script MoveToDraft takes all the hassle out of main space -> draft space moves, highly recommended. Isn't this a good time to apply for page mover? Hope all is well, best --Sam Sailor 05:30, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - Yeah, I don't know why I didn't change the page name to Nicole Chesney when I moved it to draftspace.  Thanks for doing that.  I agree that these appear to be developed separately by two different editors, independent of one another.  Extabulis has been around a few years, while Cypressavenue's only edits were on the draft.  I agree with your decline, even though the draft was started later, it was developed independently, and was moved to mainspace first. How is Evad's script different than simply using the move feature?  And what do you mean "apply for page mover"?   Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 10:52, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Evad's script will, apart from moving the page, among other things notify the author with a message akin to Uw-articletodraft, which is one of the requirements of WP:DRAFTIFY. Page mover ... "thought he already ..." Sam Sailor 11:32, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Have added Evad's script, and have requested the page mover right.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 15:27, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm PamD. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Subzi Mandi Farmers Market, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Pam D  11:34, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - can I ask why?  In the history section of the target, it mentions that they acquired a farmer's market and now operate a farmer's market in Vineland NJ.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 11:50, 18 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Oops, one of those glitches - can't think what happened unless you'd reviewed it so recently that it still appeared in my "unreviewed" NPP feed and I clicked "unreview" intending "review". No problem - I'd also checked that the farmer's market name occurred in the target article. Sorry about that. Have re-reviewed it. Pam  D  11:54, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Page mover granted
Hello, Onel5969. Your account has been [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3AOnel5969 granted] the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, and move subpages when moving the parent page(s).

Please take a moment to review Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when  is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Primefac (talk) 17:02, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Elmidae. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, List of turbofan manufacturers, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:48, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - any particular reason?  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 14:50, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Err, no - somewhat surprsising, I just had it sitting there open while I was running Earwig... must have been a msiclick :/ I see you got the same dup result as I did though! I wonder if that could be sorted by just radically cutting down on the text rather than speedy deleting outright - after all, it's the manufacturer name that needs to rmain, not the detail phrasing? -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:20, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * No worries. Yes, it probably could be trimmed to get rid of the copyvio, and then the history revdel'd, but the topic didn't particularly interest me, so I felt that it was best to "alert the authorities" about the copyvio and let them deal with it.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 15:24, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Madison Clarke
Whats wrong? It has an expanded lead and reception section. The articles for characters Dwight and King Ezekiel has problems. Can't you just remove the redirect and tag the issues you mentioned into the article. The Optimistic One (talk) 13:52, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * No. There is no real world notability. It is incredibly poorly sourced, and consists almost solely of a plot summary. Not every character is notable. This one certainly isn't. Just because there are other articles which probably should be deleted, doesn't mean others should be overlooked as well.  That's an WP:OSE argument, probably the weakest argument there is on WP. See WP:NOTPLOT. Take a look at FA character articles, like Khan Noonien Singh or Jabba the Hutt, or Jack Sparrow.   Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 14:02, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Not true, there's an expanded lead and reception section as well, Yes not every character is notable, however this one certainly is, more notable than most TWD characters. And you mentioned that it's poorly sourced, if that's the case then why didn't you sort out that problem instead of reinserting the redirect. The Optimistic One (talk) 18:57, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Not my job to "sort out that problem"... it's the job of whoever wants the article to stand on its own merit. The key to a project like WP is for editors NOT to make work for other editors. That's called laziness. The lead section expansion is irrelevant, and the reception section dealt more with the program than the character itself. Creating sub-par articles which don't meet the guidelines for notability doesn't really help WP, it just wastes lots of editors' time.   Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 00:27, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Voice Coaches page cleanup
Hi Onel5969,

I saw you tagged the page for Voice Coaches as an advert. I have reviewed it and pared it down to remove promotional language. If agreeable, I can remove the advert tag. Thanks for your help! (: Happilycleverafter (talk) 14:33, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

El País King of European Soccer
Thank you Onel5969 ! I also would like to know the reason why the award ceased to exist. I have searched a lot through the web but I could not find any reliable source or official statement. Unofficially, from friendly discussions with some guys, both online and in real life, I have personally ended up believing that it's a similar case with Onze d'Or award (given by French popular magazine Onze Mondial) which discontinued after 2012 and came back in 2017. I believe that both El País and Onze Mondial realised what happened in 2013 (the famous FIFA Ballon d'Or scandal with an inexplicable voting extension in favor of a specific player) and knew what would happen in the future years with the majority of international football (soccer) awards. Many people still believe that Spanish club Real Madrid have had a hand in all awards, since 2013 and after. So maybe El País and Onze wanted to stay clear and thus decided not to give an award for some time. Personally, I think that there is a connection with those two. But who really knows..?? I hope to find a trustworthy, valid source in the future. Thanks again for your kind word :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dim. Nor. 86 (talk • contribs) 22:48, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response. Keep up the good work .  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 00:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Now 66
Hi, I saw you redirected Now 66 to the Now discography page, may I ask why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike Weber02 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Have no idea what you are talking about, since you didn't provide a link. Best guess is that it didn't meet notability criteria, which is most likely what I put in the edit summary.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 00:30, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Funk Division's Page Issues Corrected
Ref : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funk_Division

The page issues has been addressed, Please could you take a look and let me know if its okay, Thanks JonS (talk) 20:34, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

For now I shall remove the error status. If you find further issues please do not hesitate to contact me.JonS (talk) 06:18, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - The other place a citation is needed is for the information in the first paragraph in the "Today" section.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 11:09, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your response and feedback, I've just made a slight change. let me know if its okay.JonS (talk) 11:15, 25 July 2018 (UTC) Thanks for your helpJonS (talk) 10:58, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thank you for the feedback on my Yeardley addition. I added more footnotes and adding more for his son's page. Cheers

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LKG(2018 film)
Dear Admin thanks reviewing my article but unfortunately another admin has redirected my article i have mention proper source url on my article please help to move on to live version Parthimurugesan talk

Deprodding of Osondu C. Nwokoro
I have removed the tag from Osondu C. Nwokoro, which you proposed for deletion. Moving to draft space for further editing. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add back to the file. Instead, feel free to list it at Articles for deletion. Thanks!

Love Action Drama
How could you consider that Twitter source unreliable, when it was the official account of the film's lead actor Nivin Pauly? Now I've replaced that with a third-party source, but sometimes it's better to obtain info straight from the horse's mouth. -- <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  16:17, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Because Twitter, like Facebook is a totally non-reliable source. Please read WP:RS.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 17:17, 31 July 2018 (UTC)