User talk:Onel5969/Archive 84

Archive 72:November 2020

Why did you delete the Tapete article?
It is a notable part of blind history. 2A01:4C8:72:A70B:99A2:1D43:3DF7:DB54 (talk) 13:36, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Meituan-Dianping to Meituan
The change request has been added to Meituan-Dianping talk page. Ckh3111 (talk) 13:57, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Notability - WP:NALBUM is not an excuse to bypass other notability guidelines and delete en mass
You should not be aggressively deleting good faith edits and articles based on first impressions. Take due care to follow the WP:GOODFAITH and WP:NEXIST guidelines. Then when an article seems to fail the notability guidelines, follow WP:FAILN to first give the benefit of the doubt. Thank you. AusChartMan (talk) 17:32, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , learn notability criteria, please. Stop making work for other editors. And don't post on my page again.  Onel 5969  TT me 18:31, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Page Review
Hi! Thank you for your outstanding contribution to the Wikipedia community. Can you review that article, if you will be able to? It just stalled all my work. I would highly appreciate this. Thanks! MarcusTraianus (talk) 20:03, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Reason for deletion of Time Will Tell (Hebe Tien album) Wikipedia page
May I kindly seek your clarification on the purpose of deleting the Wikipedia page on Time Will Tell (Hebe Tien album)? The Wikipedia page was curated with hours of effort from various parties including myself. At the very least a proper reason to justify the deletion should be provided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moiboy (talk • contribs) 09:54, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , first, the article wasn't deleted, it was redirected. Second, the reason was given in the edit summary. It doesn't pass WP:NALBUM, which says in those cases, the album title should be redirected to the artist. The current sourcing includes two advertisements, an instagram pos (non-reliable), are all about a different album of hers (Nobody Knows).  At first, I thought it might be a simple case of the computer translating the title differently, but none of the tracks appear to match. Even if they were about this album, the current sourcing doesn't come close to establishing notability.  Onel 5969  TT me 11:57, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

History of AEK Athens F.C. deletion
I want this redirect to be deleted so to move the page back to it's original space, as it is wrongfully removed. Can you help me do this (by deleting the redirect)? Thank you! BEN 917 (talk) 14:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi ... yes I could, but you can do it yourself. You need to go through the RfD process (redirects for discussion), or in this case, or requesting a speedy deletion through G6, and explain that you want to move the existing page there.  I am hesitant to do it myself, since I'm not sure what the correct title of the article should be.  Whether or not Athens should be included in the name seems ambiguous, even in the parent article.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:01, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * That was helpful too, thanks!! But how can I do that? And to asnwer to your last sentence there are many clubs (see AEK), mainly in Greece called AEK, thats why the offical name of the club which the article is referred is AEK Athens F.C.! BEN 917  (talk) 16:05, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Missy (audio drama series)
Was there a reason you redirected this article but did not fix the issue of the transcluded tables? You've caused an error for the past two weeks at the parent list article. Was there a reason, or just a lack of effort on your part to reach out to anyone else? Cheers. -- / Alex /21  02:10, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Thagadu
Hi - can you move the page Thagadu back to the main site? The article was completely rewritten and has no contribution from paid editor User:TamilMirchi. Please take a look at the history. Neutral Fan (talk) 00:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
 Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 01:19, 6 November 2020 (UTC) Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:39, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I second that. All the best, Bil!
 * I third it! Though I don't have a link as clever as Gareth's dag nab it. Enjoy your weekend. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 17:03, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you and, and of course, the Birthday Committee.  Onel 5969  TT me 14:40, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Nancy Salzman
Hi, please complete more research into the NXIVM case before nominating this article for deletion. Salzman may have gotten off with limited sentencing but she was central in developing the cult. I suggest you read the deposition by the U.S. District Court. Salzman's lack of medical expertise in conducting psychotherapy is another element that deserves more exposure. Under Wikipedia:Notability (Perpatrators) "#2 The motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy—such that it is a well-documented historic event. Generally, historic significance is indicated by sustained coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources which persists beyond contemporaneous news coverage and devotes significant attention to the individual's role.", Salzman would qualify due to historical documentation of her involvement in the development of the cult as well as the medical malpracice ESP hypnosis sessions. This is has been documented by a number of podcasts and documentaries, and most recently The Vow. — Scott218 (talk) 17:02, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Super League XXV regular season table
The table is included in the main article because it's been created as a new wiki page. That's the only reason it shows up, otherwise it wouldn't be there. When you added the redirect, it removed it from the main article to. I didn't create the page, it was done last night to replace the existing one, due to Salford being deducted 3 wins and the table being used as WPCT, it doesn't work out.. so a new page was created with the exact same results etc. If the page gets deleted, then I'm pretty certain it will remove it from the main page to... L1amw90 (talk) 04:27, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Deprodding of Jenny Ungless
I have removed the tag from Jenny Ungless, which you proposed for deletion. The article in my opinion does satisfy WP:GNG requirements. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Articles for deletion. Thanks! Andysmith248 (talk) 13:00, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Rosie Banks (author)
Can you at least move the page to Rosie Banks (author) --82.23.69.143 (talk) 11:52, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

El Sebou: suggestion to remove the article from mainspace
Hi - can you please be specific about what you think needs to be done to improve the proposed article on El Sebou to meet standards? The article is in development as part of a student project in a class, and yes, the student very much wants to improve the article to come up to standards. thanks, Reel315 (talk) 16:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , Hi. First, when asking a question on a user's talk page, it is always helpful to put in a link to the article you're talking about, like this: El Sebou' : Egyptian Birth Ritual.  While it wasn't a problem to track it down in this case, it can be probelmatic.  Now regarding your query.  The two notability guidelines are WP:GNG or WP:NFILM.  In a nutshell, to meet GNG, you need several in-depth articles about the subject, and they have to come from independent sources. Currently, there are zero of these in the article.  All are promo pieces about the film.  Most folks use newspapers and periodicals to come up with sources, sometimes books.  I did a cursory search and found very little about the documentary. Doesn't mean the sourcing isn't out there.  the WP:NFILM is what is known as a SN, or specialty notability criteria. That list is very specific and can be found at the link.  Hope this helps.  But remember that not everything is notable.  It helps to familiarize yourself with the notability guidelines, and that can help to decide what to write about.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:58, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi -- re El Sebou' : Egyptian Birth Ritual --as you might guess, I'm a newbie also at this, and I did not know about the links part in communications -- so I appreciate the heads-up. (Now to learn how to put a link into ; but am glad to know. Thanks for your quick response. I shall underscore the necessity of getting notable sources into the articles before the students try to go to the mainspace.   The students are responsible to locate and use good notable sources appropriately. That's part of the assignment.  I appreciate also that you took a look for possible sources - yes, they are hard to find.  But yes, there are several sources that should meet the notability requirement (the film was vetted prior to the assignment). I will check out the specialty notability criteria and revisit the notability guidelines.   Thanks again for your prompt reply. Reel315 (talk) 18:42, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Page Deletion
Hi, You marked a page I did for speedy deletion and it was deleted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Manitou1. The grounds for the deletion were [A tag has been placed on Aubrey Hruby requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.chase.com/digital/online-banking.]

The page was a bio page to a notable person. There was no resemblance and no overlap to a Chase banking page. Please advise how to reinstate this page.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manitou1 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , was the admin who actually deleted the article, so you might ask them.  Onel 5969  TT me 18:08, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Ali Haydar
I am sorry, I have reverted this and I do not understand why my articles are being listed for deletion everytime! I have seen a lot of unreferenced pages including a few about non-notable academics, published here for years and here in my article I cited references including all thoese published works where you can verify the contributors but still it is deleted, why sir? You could have used maintenance tag to the article instead of deleting the whole contribution? --Freoanlsji (talk) 18:26, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , no, there is no evidence of notability.  Onel 5969  TT me 23:50, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The person meets all the criteria except for the 1 and 4 of the WP:NACADEMIC. Have you really checked it? Freoanlsji (talk) 17:15, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , yes. Have you?  3 of the 4 refs you added failed verifying.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 17:17, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The sources I used in the article were to show the citations of the person. If you need sources explicitly mentioning the positions then okay will do that as well. Anything else you want to suggest please? Freoanlsji (talk) 17:23, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Why are you removing the Jawi script?
The Jawi script is not a dialect of some extinct language! It is a writing system use to write the Malay language, if you're ignorant then next time I will explain it to you!
 * Because you were doing it incorrectly. Perhaps the ignorance is with you. Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:49, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

NSW Cup
The competition is going to have a new sponsor next year and instead of changing the page each year with the new deals, we should just leave it at NSW Cup. We don't have Betfred Super League and NRL Telstra Premiership, so I don't see how this is different. WDM10 (talk) 19:09, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * , what you did is a cut and paste move, which is not allowed due to attribution concerns. See WP:CUTANDPASTE.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:51, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh I see, sorry about that. Could you please make the move in the right fashion? WDM10 (talk) 23:55, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'll give it the old college try.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:57, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , okay, done. Thanks for your bringing it to WP attention.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 00:02, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Cool. Thanks for your help. WDM10 (talk) 00:17, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Bludgeoning accusation
Hi One5969—I'd kindly request that you strike your accusation of WP:Bludgeoning. AfDs are meant to be a discussion, and while it would be inappropriate to, well, bludgeon the process, there is nothing untoward about civilly, concisely, and non-repetitively responding to arguments that have been raised. Accusing others of bludgeoning within that context actively harms discussion by seeking to turn the page into a straight vote at the expense of healthy engagement with policy-based arguments. Regards, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 03:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * And you're continuing your bludgeoning here. Stop it.  And don't write on my talk page again.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 11:33, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Michael Gruenbaum - how to improve this page to move it out of drafts
Hello

I am new at creating wikipedia pages, and just submitted one entitled "Michael Gruenbaum", which was sent by you back to draft, because apparently there aren't enough sources. The page I submitted included links to the New York Times Book Review about his memoirs, a recent interview about his career with the Institute of Transportation Engineers (the premier organization for this field worldwide), a wikipedia page including notable survivors from Mr. Gruenbaum's camp with a mention of his name, and reviews from numerous other well-known publications. Can you help me to figure out what more I should include? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Placscrib (talk) 22:51, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi. First, very nice job on the article, well-written and structured.  The issue is that there are 2 whole sections unreferenced. If you simply provide references for those, it's good to go,  Keep up the good work.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 22:59, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

ok great! Thanks for speedy reply Placscrib (talk) 23:05, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Quick question: I do have references I could list for those two sections you mentioned, but they are for a published (printed) book, which as far as I know is not online yet. Would that be sufficient, or does it have to be an online reference? Placscrib (talk) 23:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC) Placscrib (talk) 23:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , absolutely. There is no requirement for refs to be online.  However, offline refs do require specific stuff to be included.  You can find out what at WP:CITE, and specifically for books at WP:CITEHOW.  Formatting the refs can be found at WP:CIT.  Hope this helps.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:48, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Draft:James McPherson (football coach)
I strongly disagree with your draftifying of the above. Whatever happened to cn tags on content you feel needs to be proven? I've seen literally hundreds of articles where the sole reference (not footnotes, just a general 'you'll find it in here' vague pointer) is some textbook which can't be verified online. This article has footnotes for Web content, general reading and links to wikis on the guy in multiple languages, so I'm struggling to see what you find so suspicious about the content that it needs removed from mainspace without an attempt to engage with the author/other involved editors or to flag up the issues on the page first. Crowsus (talk) 02:24, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , well, since you disagree with it, I'll move it back into mainspace, and then remove all uncited material.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 02:30, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Trinchero Family Estates
Hi Onel5969, I hope you're doing well! I saw that you reinstated the redirect I removed from Trinchero Family Estates (to Sutter Home Winery). May we discuss that? Trinchero Family Estates should have its own Wikipedia page. I'm happy to help build out the page with your direction. Please let me know the next steps. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucy456 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi. First, my apologies for not giving a fuller explanation in the edit summary. I usually do. That being said,  was spot on in their assessment on their talk page as to why I restored the revert.  If you wish to work on creating a page, might I suggest I move the redirect into draftspace, where you can work on developing the article.  Learning the entire MOS (Manual of Style) can be daunting, so you can learn from looking at the structure of other winery articles.  The Sutter Home Winery is a nice little article, and wouldn't be a bad place to start.  But since this is about the parent company, an article like KEO (company) might be better.  Remember that an article must be written without a point of view WP:NPOV, and that any assertion you include in the article should be backed up by a valid reference. References should be from independent sources where possible, but sometimes when writing about a company, the only source for certain information will be the company's website.  That's okay to use for validation purposes. I'll be more than happy to help you as you go along, and give advice when you ask for it.  Hope this helps, and if you want, I'll move that to draft for you.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 20:10, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I like contributing to the content but yes, it can be daunting. I would like to take you up on the offer to  move the redirect into draftspace while I work on the article.  And I will definitely take you up on the offer to help. Thank you for the pointers!  Please let me know next steps.
 * - it's been moved to draft. The first thing I would do is structure the article.  Figure out what the different sections will be.  Then start to fill it in, using referenced material.  As you go along, shoot me a message to take a look, and I'll let you know what I think.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 01:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * - I guess it would help you if I provided the link to the draft, wouldn't it: Draft:Trinchero Family Estates. Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 14:01, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Delhi dialect
Hi Onel5966! Look at this: Hindavi dialect. This page was created only a few minutes after you had reverted Delhi dialect back to a redirect. Looks like a slightly modified clone of the earlier version, and also of Old Hindi. –Austronesier (talk) 12:08, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hmmm... interesting. It's not an exact dupe, but very similar.  Seems like that editor is trying to push a viewpoint.  This isn't an area where I have a great deal of expertise, am pinging, who knows more about these topics.  The reverting to the redirect was an easy call, since the term was used on the target of a long-standing article.  This article appears to make the claim that this is a different variant, and doesn't mention Kauravi at all. Without knowledge of the other article and redirect, it would be difficult not to mark this new article as reviewed.  However, without access to the underlying sources it is difficult to ascertain whether this truly is a different dialect, or simply a different name for the same dialect.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I don't know much about the history of the language. From what I see, there should, in principle, exist the possibility for separate articles about Kauravi (the broad regional dialect of the rural hinterland), and the earlier stage of the literary language that started developing in the city, but I'm not sure it makes sense to subdivide the coverage of the latter into tinier subtopics based mostly on what appear like differences in nomenclature. – Uanfala (talk) 12:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Things have gone faster than expected. The editor is an LTA, and has already been blocked. I have G5-ed the page. –Austronesier (talk) 13:47, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both and . Uanfala, I agree with your assessment, as well as feeling a separate article would have been unnecessary. Austronesier, thanks for G5'ing that article.  I've also G5'd the category the sock created. Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 14:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Tina Lee
How is it that the CEO one of the largest grocery chains in Canada is not notable?--Brett (talk) 15:07, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , being accomplished is not the same as being notable. Especially when that accomplishment is handed to someone from their parents.  In that stub article, there was no indication of notability.  To show notability you need several references showing in-depth sourcing of the subject, from independent, reliable sources.  The Financial Post article is nice, if you come up with 2-3 more like that, that would show notability.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 17:29, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Western Subanon language
Hi, These are different language varieties that are grouped under "Subanon." It is even the subject of an upcoming dissertation: --WikiEditor50 (talk) 12:36, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , That's fine. But readers are better served by having them in the same article, since they are closely related.  There is no valid reason to have two stubs.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:38, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I see... But it seemed to be inappropriate to describe the phonology and information on only one variety in a general article that is supposed to give an overview of different Subanon varieties. Even the external links I believe are on Western Subanon. Many linguistic works distinguish between the other "Subanon" languages too. Couldn't the information in this dissertation be used to expand the article? Many thanks. --WikiEditor50 (talk) 12:44, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , You bring up good points. My issue is that I've seen so many language stubs, which make research that much more difficult.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 15:14, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I would imagine that generally, it's better if detailed content about a given language is provided in that language's dedicated article, rather than in an article about the bigger language group. Maybe will have an opinion on whether Western Subanon language should be a separate article from Subanon language? – Uanfala (talk) 17:28, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree, detailed content like sound inventories of a specific language should not appear in the article about the higher-order grouping, but in the article for the language itself. However, a stub like Western Subanon language should have better sources than a dead link. I have added an archive link to the reference now, and more material for W. Subanon is available in this article in Oceanic Linguistics, so could re-execute the split with more info. Also, the "mother" page Subanon language should not simply be depleted of its content, but get some more information pertaining to the complete macro-language/micro-group; e.g. the Oceanic Linguistics article has a reconstruction of Proto-Subanen phonemes; more info could be taken from Jason Lobel's dissertation. –Austronesier (talk) 18:09, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

I have separated the two topics, and added some material that specifcally is about the subject of the respective article. Hope it looks ok now. –Austronesier (talk) 11:48, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

removing AFD from reviewed article
Hi, thank you very much for reviewing Amber Martinez, can you please remove the malformed AFD from the article?212.47.220.173 (talk) 10:13, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * There is nothing malformed about the AfD. Other than a sock made it. However, the consensus on the page is leaning towards deletion, so the tag should remain until consensus is reached.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 11:23, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response, the article now updated and more reliable sources added and also the user who set the AFD for the article now is blocked so his AFD request can be malformed, right? 212.47.220.173 (talk) 12:26, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, no. They should never have made it, however, now that it is under discussion, consensus should be reached before the discussion is closed. It would be one thing if the consensus was leaning towards keep, but it's not.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:28, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, I tried to improve the article and adding the new source but someone removed that and protected the article, last 3 sources was from really rich source like (Youm7) but a user removed that, I not know what's her/his probelm.212.47.220.173 (talk) 15:56, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations
Thank you for spotting and removing the copyvio in Phoenix (2020 TV series). Because the original was in Korean, it was a challenging copyvio to find, although such phrases as "daughter of a conglomerate" may have helped. I was rather shocked to see that the editor who introduced the copyvio had reviewer and rollback rights and wondered whether I should take any further action. What do you think? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:24, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi. I'm of the view that an editor who evades the rules, especially major rules, should have very few tools.  Especially not reviewer or autopatrolled.  The most egregious offenses to me are sockpuppetry, copyvio issues, and UPE.  That being said, folks make mistakes.  I saw the discussion you had on their talk page (which was going to be my first suggestion), but I don't think it shows a proper understanding of Copyvio.  Hell, many times I'm not sure, but I try to err on the side of caution, without overwhelming folks like you who do the grunt work of actually doing the revdel.  I'd be more concerned if they had autopatrolled rights. I've reviewed several of their articles, and this is the first one I can remember which had a copyvio, so I don't think it's a problem at the moment.  Their logs don't appear to show any activity as a reviewer or patroller, but their apparent lack of understanding of copyvio would be an issue if they decided to start actually reviewing/patrolling. I don't think removing the patrol rights would do any harm, and might be a good precautionary measure.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:05, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Theme of Bulgaria and Byzantine Bulgaria
Hi Onel5969, that are two separate entities. The theme of Bulgaria was a single Byzantine province, while Byzantine Bulgaria encompassed parts from different provinces. It would be better to keep two separate topics. Regards. Jingiby (talk) 16:30, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi. There's nothing in the Byzantine article to suggest it has anything to do with more than that contained in the Theme article.  If there is sourced information showing that the Byzantine designation is more than the current Theme than that should be added, and a specific delineation pointed out.  Without that, they are simply duplicate articles.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 18:24, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * User:onel5969, without going into details, the situation is a little more complicated and there are also two separate articles on the Bulgarian Wikipedia. Jingiby (talk) 18:42, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Pinging, , and , all who have touched the page to make them aware of these comments. Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I can only judge based on the comparative content of the two articles, and the current overlap is well beyond what we would normally consider acceptable. If these are related but separate concepts, then that needs to be reflected by related but separate article contents - not 75% duplication. That's what summaries and wikilinks are for. If you, as someone with subject knowledge, could apply this trimming, it would certainly be appreciated. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 23:49, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * There's certainly nothing in either article (prior to merging) to indicate the differences detailed above. Also there is nothing in History of Bulgaria about this difference, in fact the section Byzantine rule (1018–1185), has a map File:Byzantine Macedonia 1045CE.svg showing "Bulgaria" as a much smaller area than the current country. To confuse things further, one of the maps on Bulgaria (theme), File:Byzantine Empire Themes 1025-en.svg, shows the larger area as "Bulgaria" and the smaller area as "Boulgaria" (with an "o"). Whilst there may be justification for separate articles, this justification needs to be obvious in both articles and also in History of Bulgaria. --John B123 (talk) 00:06, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi everybody. The problem is that the province of Bulgaria overlapped only this territory of the Kingdom of Bulgaria, which was finally conquered by Byzantium. Consequently, this province had its own life, while the whole territory of the former Kingdom of Bulgaria included also other Byzantine provinces. They had its own life as for example Macedonia and Paristrion. So there are two options. Either the life of the Bulgarians in these other provinces should be described in the single article about the province called Bulgaria, or the separate article about Byzantine Bulgaria as an imagined entity, encompassing several Byzantine provinces should be left here. Look also at the map above, please. Jingiby (talk) 04:33, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

La razón de la culpa
I've added citations to the article, I was actually searching for sources still when you added it, I was surprised. Could you please check the article again and let me know if it needs sources or do I still need to search. I look forward to hearing from you. Coryphantha  Talk  21:41, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , nice job! I've removed the tag.  Be aware that if you see a tag and fix the problem, whether or not you created the article, you can remove the tag yourself.  Most editors keep watch over pages they have tagged, and if they don't think the problem has been resolved, will re-add the tag and comment.  Keep up the good work.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I wasn't sure if I dared removed them or not, I'm never really sure when enough is enough so I keep going. I'm still new at knowing how much is a good amount. Thank you for the kind comments. :) Coryphantha   Talk  22:00, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , no worries. Never hurts to ask.  Just wanted to let you know that if you feel you've covered the bases in fixing a tag on a page, feel free to remove it.  Regardless of what the tag is.  Often, I'll review an article that another reviewer has tagged with notability concerns. And vice versa.  Happy editing.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! :) Coryphantha   Talk  00:32, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Deleted articles
Why did you delete almost all my articles? They were cited if you do your research. They existed not made believe i spent ages researching and compiling then you just deleted them or wiped them with redirects. Really no need to have RailwayJG (talk) 01:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi. First, it's always polite to provide links to the articles you're questioning about.  Second, the 2 stubs I redirected (not deleted) to their railways had ZERO citations, so not sure what you are talking about. The poorly sourced, and poorly formatted 3 stubs I reviewed are still there.  So really no need for you to have left this message.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 02:26, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

So if I provide sources for them and they are good enough to pass the citations needed. I can get rid of the redirect? Cheers RailwayJG (talk) 02:29 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Moyles Court School
Hi there, How do I make it Notable? I feel there are many many other pages less notable that this one. There are references to websites aside from the school's own. Thanks in advance for your help, Tim
 * Hi Tim. First, it's always polite to leave a wikilink to the article you're talking about when leaving a comment on an editor's talkpage, like this: Moyles Court School.  Second, please remember to 'sign' your comments with 4 tildes, like this: ~ .  That will allow the editor to know who they are communicating with.  Now, to show notability you need several sources which go in-depth about the school, as opposed to mere mentions are simple blurbs. These should be from outside sources, not school websites or publications.  In addition, they should also include in-depth articles from non-local sources, for example if the article was from a Cardiff or London paper.  See WP:GNG and WP:ORG for the entire rundown of guidelines. If you want to work on the article, I can move it into draft for you, and then take a look at it after you've done some work on it, or answer questions for you. Let me know. Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:29, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes,  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:41, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Onel, thanks - Its been a long time since I edited Wikipedia pages! If you would be able to move the Moyles Court School page into drafts for me, I would appreciate it - thanks. I’ll see what I can find, but it’s tricky as it’s a small school. It’s very old fashioned so doesn’t have a big online presence, but I’m trying to change that! Thanks for all your assistance... Timstickley (talk) 18:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , had to move it to User:Timstickley/Sandbox Moyles Court School, since you had created a draft prior to this, and that redirect is blocking me moving it there. But this will allow you to work on it.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 18:57, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi again Onel! I’ve added a load of content and references to webpages that do not belong to the school. Do you think it could be considered to be notable yet? Thanks, Tim Timstickley (talk) 09:53, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think it's getting there. Schools, for purposes of notability, fall under WP:NORG, and specificaly, WP:ORGDEPTH.  All the independent sourcing is of the local variety. If you notice above, I said that some of the sourcing should be from non-local sourcing.  ln one of the articles it mentioned that the school had been ranked in the top 50 by The Sunday Times.  Not sure which Sunday Times, but if you could find that, it would help.  In my opinion the only thing missing is those two in-depth pieces from non-local sources.  Even one would most likely put you over the edge.  But you're doing a wonderful job so far.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:19, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi again onel5959, thanks for all your advice. Do you think it would be considered notable yet? I’ve added some references from non-local sources... if you think it’s ok, would you be able to move it to its own page please? Thanks, Timstickley (talk) 23:22, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , You're doing very good work on the article. I personally still wouldn't mark it "reviewed", as I still think it needs one or two more in-depth articles from non-local sources. I did a cursory search myself, and didn't see the type of coverage that would put it over the edge myself.  However, another reviewer might see it differently.  If you would like I'll move it back to the mainspace and put it back into the review queue for another reviewer to take a crack at.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 16:15, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have plenty of other non local references (aside from the ISI, ISC, BBC, ISBI and BSA ones in the article) I could use but they are all in physical books sadly! If you are able to move it to the mainspace for another reviewer to have a crack at, I would really appreciate it, thank you! And thanks for all your advice along the way! Timstickley (talk) 11:36, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , will move it, but remember, sources do not have to be online. When using sources which can't be accessed online, please give as much information as possible, see WP:CIT about what information should be included.  Keep up the good work.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 13:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Zanda Zakuza
Long time no talk. Was wondering if you could share what you learned about Zanda Zakuza because from the text alone I'm not seeing something to indicate notability. But rather than duplicate work that you'd already done I figured I'd ask. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:51, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , yeah, long time. Hope all is well with you.  Regarding this article, I felt the True Love article was more than a blurb (although not as in-depth as I'd normally prefer), then you have the 2 News24.com pieces, a year apart. Then you also have the Briefly article. In my mind, that passes GNG.  Put another way, I've seen plenty of articles with less survive AfD. Okay?  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:38, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Wait, your question wasn't about sourcing, but about the text. I actually don't look that much at the text if an article passes GNG (unless the subject interests me), or if there is a copyvio issue. You're right there, just looking at the text, it's a very poor article, and pretty poor representation of the artist, based on the information that's available about her online. Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Your first response is actually what I was looking for; I was hooping to mooch on someone who had evaluated sources. Your having done so is helpful, thanks. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:09, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

DECARLO Page
Please restore the DECARLO Band page. I am working with the lead guitarist to expand the Wikipedia page. This is a totally different page than his dad Tommy DeCarlo. Matt8063 (talk) 04:15, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Iowa Dogfish page review
Hello, I saw that you reviewed the Iowa Dogfish page. After your review the page no longer appears to exist and references to the page circle back to the league page (Interstate Box Lacrosse Association). I'm wondering why the Iowa Dogfish page no longer appears? ThatWikiAl (talk) 21:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)ThatWikiAl
 * , as a non-professional lacrosse team, it needs to pass WP:GNG, so it was turned into a redirect.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 20:35, 18 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't understand why it wouldn't pass the general notability guidelines. The IBLA is the American counterpart to Canada's Major Series Lacrosse and Western Lacrosse Association. They are all leagues that play at the Senior-A (highest) level of semi-professional lacrosse. Teams in both of those other leagues have their own wikipedia pages. And junior hockey along with a whole host of other junior level and senior level sports teams have pages. This team exists, has played one full season, is going to continue operating, and they are notable as the first senior level and only box lacrosse team in the state of Iowa. So what do I need to do to bring this page back? ThatWikiAl (talk) 03:21, 23 November 2020 (UTC)ThatWikiAl

Roger A. Weir - proposed deletion
Hello - I have removed the proposed deletion tag from the entry for Roger A. Weir because the article contains multiple citations which provide sufficient and necessary evidence of how the subject of this entry meets the General Notability Guideline. Thank you for your attention to this entry. Your action has been a call to action for me to improve the article further, which is another reason why I have removed your proposed deletion tag. Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 02:07, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi - how do I go about moving the entry for Roger A. Weir to my user account and removing from the Main wiki? I concede that this entry does not meet the GNG requirements. Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 16:49, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi. Since it's at AfD, the discussion has to run it's course.  Once it does, if the result is delete, it will be.  There's nothing you have to do.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 16:52, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Will it be 'userfied'? Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 16:52, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Plastique (comics)
Can I ask why I added Plastique (comics) to the queue? I'm not seeing anything that would suggest it has been changed in a way that needed review but maybe I'm missing something. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:27, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi, and of course you can always ask. It was prodded by, and then the prod was removed.  Not sure why it wasn't automatically re-added to the queue, as I checked the logs, and no reviewer had reviewed it.   Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 20:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Because the page in its modern form was created in 2012 according to my read of the history. I'm going to go ahead and mark it reviewed, without prejudice or comment about its notability. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:36, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , wow. I missed that. I only looked at the prod... thanks for catching it.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 20:37, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It's why NPP is a team effort. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:38, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

First Nagorno-Karabakh war
Hello, thanks for your help in disambiguating. Could you change the link to First Nagorno-Karabakh War rather than Nagorno-Karabakh war ? — <b style="color:#c29d25">Curious</b><b style="color:#c29d25">Golden</b> (T·C) </b> 13:46, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , Sure. what page?  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 13:56, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Or do you mean on all pages, like what I just did on Edilli? Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 13:58, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I meant that when disambiguating, it'd be better to change it to First Nagorno-Karabakh war directly. — <b style="color:#c29d25">Curious</b><b style="color:#c29d25">Golden</b> (T·C) </b> 13:59, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , Okay, I can do that. A bit more work, but I see the good of it.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 14:00, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! — <b style="color:#c29d25">Curious</b><b style="color:#c29d25">Golden</b> (T·C) </b> 14:01, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

I am NOT a sock
I am NOT the sock Brnodam....after reading the sockpuppet investigation against this 'eternal' sock, what wonder me is the "hate" against this sock by this one1959 and others...hate that seems all based on nationalistic/ethnic HATE against Italy & Italians. I am an italian-american who lives in Boca Raton like him and if he reads this, please contact me at my IP. I belong to the Order Sons of Italy in America. Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:58C:C080:8AA0:18E7:2F53:11E3:D6C5 (talk) 15:06, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * That's not what the SPI uncovered. Oops. Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:20, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

List of Drifters characters
I want to know what part of that page was copyrighted because it was copied and moved from the main page and I even left a link in the talk page of where it can from. SpectresWrath (talk) 16:07, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , virtually all of it, from several sources, if I remember correctly. Not sure what you mean, by "moved from the main page", since I doubt a list of minor characters appeared on Wikipedia's main page.  Do you mean you split it off from the main Drifters' article?  If so, you didn't say that in the attribution, which is required. If that is the case, you might ask the admin who actually deleted the article if that is the case.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 11:46, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Iti Samanta
FWIW, I've blocked the article mover as a sock of the article creator who was told that as a declared COI editor he must wait for review <b style="font-family:Lucida;color:red">Jimfbleak</b> - talk to me?  14:59, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks. I just opened a sock investigation, as there might be other connections to other now blocked socks.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 15:02, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Page Marked for Speedy Deletion, Streetsound
Hi there you marked my page entry Streetsound for speedy deletion (it was just approved yesterday) - i am also the publisher of the site referenced for copywrite infringement.. I had posted the article on my site since it looked like my article was never going to be approved. I have now updated the streetsound magazine site to point to the wiki history. I'm hopeful you can speedly restore my entry. thanks for the consideration https://streetsoundmagzine.com/history thanks Chris Chris Torella Ctorella 19:11, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi. I see that you've left a message on 's talk page, so they will look into it.  There is a way to give up a copyright to WP, but I'm not sure what you have done will suffice. Also keep in mind, that WP is not an advertising site.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 19:54, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi yup looks like i can file a copyright over to WP - thanks for getting back, totally appreciate that WP is not an advertising site - it was always my intension to make an interesting contribution to the WP universe in an area i had specific knowledge.. thanks again Chris Chris Torella Ctorella 22:42, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , no worries. I knew there was a way, just not conversant enough in it to point you in the right direction.  Glad you found help.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 22:55, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Yorkton Film Festival Golden Sheaf Award - Kathleen Shannon
Hello, I see that you reviewed the article Yorkton Film Festival Golden Sheaf Award - Kathleen Shannon - and I appreciate that - however, the link now redirects to the Yorkton Film Festival page. Where did the Yorkton Film Festival Golden Sheaf Award - Kathleen Shannon article go to? Thanks, LorriBrown (talk)
 * Hi - in my opinion while the overall award meets notability criteria, the individual awards do not appear to, so I redirected it to the main award article. But I'm just one reviewer, and not at all infallible.  My issue with it is that all the sourcing regarding this particular award was local and/or not in-depth enough. If you disagree with my assessment, feel free to revert me. I'll probably take it to AfD, so other editors can have a discussion about it. Other folks may look at it differently than I do.  On the other hand, it was a well-written and formatted piece, so keep up the good work.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:02, 21 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello again . I understand that this particular award only reflects a couple of years worth of awards. I've been systematically working my way through various awards' pages for the Yorkton Film Festival.  Originally, I rescued the YFF page from deletion but then decided to create award pages for each of the Golden Sheaf categories, I hadn't attempted this before. I understand that the Kathleen Shannon article does not have many award years or really strong sources.  The newer award years are not as strongly supported by newspaper articles as in previous years - not sure why this has not been as strong of priority as in earlier years.  This was a personal goal as I was hopeful to give representation to all the filmmakers that won these Golden Sheaf awards. I do believe there may be addition years for this award... but under slightly different titles as well as information on this person was (Kathleen Shannon) and why YFF named an award after them.  I've  tried to accommodate this with other awards by noting the variations of the name before the title, example. Yorkton Film Festival Golden Sheaf Award - Multicultural; anyway, perhaps this is too much information.  I have researched and unfortunately for the more current Golden Sheaf awards it has been difficult to find newspaper articles.  If you can revert the article to a draft page - I will try to see if I can find additional years and stronger sources to address your concerns/opinion that the article does not meet the notability requirements for a stand alone page. If you are able to revert the article to a draft, could I request your opinion before attempting to re-post it? Thank you! LorriBrown (talk)  P.S. Thank you also for your kind words... :-)
 * Hi - moved to draft, and of course you can ask for help while you work on it.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 15:41, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I believe the article is improved now. Hopefully I've addressed the concerns you had with the previous version. I do need the name changed to the Yorkton Film Festival - The Kathleen Shannon Award. Would you be able to explain how I can do that and would you mind taking a look and the improvements? Thank you! Best, LorriBrown (talk)

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Aayush Sharma
Hello, this is about the page Aayush Sharma, which you've nominated for speedy deletion. I approved the article from AfC, because the reason for deletion no longer applies. Given that I approved the AfC, I thought it would be inappropriate for me to take the tag down myself, but I have written a message on the talk page contesting the deletion. Would you have a look, please? Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 16:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi. Still doesn't qualify for WP:NACTOR.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 17:22, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Even if that is true, the process for removal is an AfD where a discussion can be had, not a speedy delete. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 17:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * A discussion was already had, that's why WP:G4 exists. Praxidicae (talk) 17:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , WP:G4 expressly excludes pages to which the reason for the deletion no longer applies, like this one. The article failed the last deletion discussion because the subject had not been in any productions and therefore had no hope of passing the specific notability guideline for actors. He has now been in two productions. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 17:52, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * So, in your powers as AFC reviewer, how is it different from the previously deleted version? Praxidicae (talk) 17:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I am happy to explain my judgment, but that is a separate matter from whether the G4 tag is appropriate. We can talk about it on the article's talk page or on mine. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 18:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Page Victor P. Tsilonis
Hello! Hope this message finds you well! Thank you for contributing to my page's content Victor P. Tsilonis. I really appreciate it! I am a user with several editing contributions but this is my first attempt to create a page. I realised that you have added two labels on my page, one related to additional citations for verification and another related to bare URL links. Upon reading the relevant guidelines, I must say I feel a little bit confused as to which parts of the page those labels refer to. I would much welcome your insights on this issue! If you could provide me with a few examples as well it would be rather helpful. In any case, I will make some improvements based on your remarks! I would like to thank you in advance for your time considering this! Have a lovely day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agnostosnous (talk • contribs) 16:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi. First, bare links are links to off-WP pages which are simply bare, or not formatted so as to reduce WP:LINKROT.  In this case, it has to do with your footnotes. I corrected most of them, but there is still one, #6, which needs to be formatted properly.  You can find out regarding the format at WP:CIT. Second, since this is a BLP (bio of a living person), almost any assertion should be sourced. Right now, sections 2.2, 2.4, 2.5 as well as the early life section are totally unsourced. Hope this helps.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 17:26, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * {{u|Onel5969}, Hello again! Thank you very much for your kind response! It is much clearer now! I will work on your guidelines and the particular sections that you mentioned which indeed are unsourced. Please get back to me if more things need to be changed! Thank you very much! Have a nice day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agnostosnous (talk • contribs) 17:42, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

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Hyainailourus
Hyainailourus needs to be retitled Hyainailouros as that is the spelling used on ZooBank and various scientific papers. -User:1morey November 23, 2010 11:35 AM (EST)

Deprodding of Suesat Paeminburi
I have removed the tag from Suesat Paeminburi, which you proposed for deletion. Since this article that I wrote has been nominated for deletion, I'm writing this to plead my case on why the article should not be deleted.

Suesat Paeminburi is one of the best Bantamweights in Muay Thai and has been for a long time, but despite this, due to multiple reasons including the politics of the sport, Suesat has never been given a shot at either the Lumpinee or Rajadamnern Stadium title (since he is a Kiatpetch circuit fighter, he is only eligible for the Thailand (PAT), Channel 7 Stadium and Lumpinee Stadium titles). Nevertheless, Suesat has won the prestigious Grakcu tournament in 2017 and recently won the Channel 7 Stadium title at 118lbs. The Channel 7 title, though not as coveted as a Lumpinee title due to it not having the same level of history behind it, is very respected and much more valuable than a WBC Muay Thai or WMC title.

The reason I bring up the WBC Muay Thai and WMC titles is that, in Notability (sports), it is written: "A kickboxing athlete is presumed notable if they:/ Fought for a world title of a major organization or promotion (K-1, WMC, [...], WBC Muaythai, [...])." Frankly speaking and with all due respect, the criteria for notability in both Kickboxing and Muay Thai are in dire need of an update. The "It's Showtime" promotion has been defunct since 2013 and it is still a part of the list. The RISE Kickboxing title, despite being one of the most coveted titles for under 65kg fighters is not on the list. Major Muay Thai belts like the True4u title, the WMO title, the Channel 7 Stadium title, and the Thailand (PAT) title all deserve a spot on the Muay Thai/Kickboxing Notability criteria. In fact, Muay Thai and Kickboxing should both be in their own category. Aside from both being standup sports, each has its own very distinct ruleset.

Thank you for reading. I hope the moderator who reads this reconsider and take away the deletion notice.. Instead, I have started a deletion discussion at Articles for deletion/Example, which you may comment on. I have explained my reasons for doing so there. Thanks!

PhanKS1505 (talk) 17:02, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I understand your thoughts, and thanks for the civil response. Might I suggest that you bring up changing the SN guidelines at WP:NMMA?  Without that change, it will be difficult to keep this article on WP.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 18:00, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Origins, Vol. 2
Do you think that Origins, Vol. 2 is ready for article space? At this time, it does seem borderline. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:59, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , not in my opinion. That's why I restored a redirect once or twice.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 01:27, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 *  Reply - If you want to nominate it for AFD, be my guest. --Jax 0677 (talk) 02:33, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Okay to just move article?
Hi, Would it be okay with you that I just remove the tag and move the draft of Kathleen Shannon Award to an article? Thank you, LorriBrown (talk)

Flowers and cake as my gratitude


Thanks a million Sir/Ma'am for the reviews that you gave for biographical articles Zeeshan Khan and Aparna Mishra. It took a lot of efforts for me to create these two articles, keeping in mind and taking care of every Wikipedia guidelines. Though, these two articles are nominated for deletion and will most likely get deleted, the reviews that you gave for these two articles is the BEST GIFT, that I got for the efforts put into these articles.

Now, I really don't mind if the articles Zeeshan Khan and Aparna Mishra are deleted and gone forever, because you already made me very happy by reviewing them.

Your reviews really means a lot and these flowers and cake are the least I could give in return. Once again, thanks a lot Sir/Madam

--Aleyamma38 (talk) 09:03, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Dashes in List of equipment of the British Army
Sorry, but I had to manually revert the page List of equipment of the British Army to an earlier version due to multiple unsourced edits by another user. I was able to include some of your changes, but unfortunately couldn't restore your changes to the dashes. --Edward Sandstig (talk) 17:24, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , no worries. It's a script, so it's very easy to replicate.  Thanks for the notice.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 17:27, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Bamboo flute
Hello,

I’m not sure how to start with your undoing to the material I moved from Bamboo musical  instruments  to Bamboo flute. You said "uncited," by which I gather you meant unreferenced? That would be fair enough to put a tag on, for I’m not planning to leave it that way. Bamboo flute is a major category of musical instruments, which has been neglected on Wikipedia, just as other non-western instruments made of bamboo, such as raft zither and tube zither. I have begun to adress these and will also address bamboo flute. I an reverting back to my change. Please give me a week to get time to improve it. Thank you Jacqke (talk) 18:47, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , sorry, but familiarize yourself with WP:BURDEN. Uncited material may be removed by anyone at anytime.  Once, removed, it should not be re-added without references from independent reliable sources.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 18:53, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, you can. And you could have given me the week I asked for.  You did not assume my intention to be good...good faith. Jacqke (talk) 18:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I always AGF. That has nothing to do with this.  When you're ready to work on the article, and put valid refs in, then do so.  The appropriate place for working on articles in draftspace, not the mainspace.  If you would like, I'll move your version into a draft, and then you can submit it through AfC for review?  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 18:59, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I was cleaning it up from elsewhere and giving it a home. I’ll  fixit  when In not working.  Thank you for the offer.Jacqke (talk) 19:04, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

WP:AN
Hi Onel5969, your opinion would be welcome at WP:AN. :) Thanks and best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:44, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the ping.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

orphan tags on Negro league articles
Hi Onel5969, I'm confused as to why you tagged 6 articles as orphans: Buck Ridgley, Eugene Redd, Rags Roberts, James D. Robinson (baseball), Herlen Ragland and Elihu Roberts. They are linked to by List of Negro league baseball players (M–R). Can you explain? Thanks, JonP125 (talk) 02:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi, and again, nice job on all these Negro League bios you've been putting up. That's an automatic report generated through the page curation process.  Apparently it hadn't updated when I reviewed your articles.  Please feel free to remove those tags.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds good, and by the way, thanks for the Barnstar! JonP125 (talk) 13:02, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Tambura
Hi. Just FYI, rather than the Balkan instrument, the correct target article for an Indian tambura is Tanpura. JG66 (talk) 16:09, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks. Which page was that on?  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 16:23, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Wonderwall Music – it's okay, I fixed it. Just thought you might be moving through other articles containing the word. JG66 (talk) 16:26, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi thanks for the link. Yeah, when I go through the dabs needing repair I always AGF, and point to the original target.  In this case, when that was added to the article (prior to September 2020), the redirect pointed to the Balkan instrument. Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 16:40, 28 November 2020 (UTC)