User talk:Only/Archive 7

Joe Monzo
Thanks for reverting. I saw that you welcomed Chriskiski, but that same user then deliberately vandalized the page about me, so i reverted again. Monz 18:28, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

LooneyGeoffrey
Thanks for reverting. I didn't do it because I didn't know if I should revert or not, even though the warning was frivolous. Could you please review WP:ANI, please? Thank you!  Cool Blue  talk to me 18:16, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[[Image:Petercanavan.jpg]]
Why did you delete the image Petercanavan.jpg. You stated that an author had requested its deletion - could you tell me who? There was an issue about using non-free images on the infobox, but I was going to address that.--Macca7174 16:41, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I deleted it because the author requested it to be deleted. The uploader was .  Metros232 17:12, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Your comment at User talk:WikiMan53
I saw your comment on the aforementioned user talk page, and I just wanted to say that I didn't know he had been bugging users to block him after an AIV report. ' ~'' Magnus animuM  Brain Freeze! ''' 18:19, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, he's just been generally abusing the helpme template for many things that are inappropriate for helpme. That's just one example.  Others include using the help me to get an admin close an MfD (3 days before the MfD was scheduled to close) and many user page/signature-related requests that helpme is not intended for at all.  Metros232 18:22, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You have a new e-mail in your inbox.  ~ Magnus animuM  Brain Freeze!  20:45, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol opinion vote.svg|20px]]  Another new e-mail.   ~ Magnus animuM  Brain Freeze!  21:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

DY71 again
See User:Cult of Kotecki.Proabivouac 01:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

John Moyer
Thanks for blocking the user, and hopefully that'll be enough. He has used socks, though. I became aware of this page from a report at ANI. He was originally editing as user:Comtheo, and then changed to user:ChrisPUT. Hopefully he won't keep trying to restore the content. Apparently he was adding the content to John E. Moyer, which has been salted. Anyway, I'll watch the page. Cheers! Flyguy649talkcontribs 15:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * just restored the content. Flyguy649talkcontribs 15:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks with your help with the page. I moved the content to the bassist page before I realized the comedian page was garbage. Hopefully the guy will get the hint. Cheers! Flyguy649talkcontribs 17:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * As I asserted in my email to you - for which I never received a response - my user:ChrisPUT is not a puppet of any kind and I would appreciate it if you could unblock me. User:Flyguy649 made an unfair assumption based on my ONE attempt to add a photo to an existing page.  It was my first attempt at editing in Wiki and I was not aware of the history of this particular page.  I was simply adding to the existing content and got caught it the crossfire of an edit war.  --75.144.8.205 18:42, 16 May 2007 (UTC) user:ChrisPUT


 * You can post an unblock on your user page for that account. However, you are a puppet, see WP:MEAT.  He recruited you to try to fight for him on his article page.  Metros232 19:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll try that. However, all I DID was add a photo to the page. Once I got the warning from Flyguy for my one and only edit; I started to look at some sort of amicable resolution but was blocked before I could participate in any form of discussion. If I feel (as others do - User:Frecklefoot) that John Moyer has made a notable contribution to LDS Cinema we should at least be able to discuss whether the page should stay. (and does not automatically classify me as a meat puppet anymore than two people agreeing on the existence of the Holocaust.)
 * It appears that you may have agreed with me on having a discussion about whether to keep the content but user:JzG has now deleted it citing (CSD G4: Recreation of Deleted Material at John E. Moyer) And looking at the delete log for John E. Moyer it appears that the most current content for John Moyer (stand up comedian) satisfies the original reason for deletion - "does not assert the importance or significance of the subject".  Maybe you guys should talk to each other.  Also using CSD G4 as a reason to delete something scheduled for AFD when the original article had not gone through the same process seems cagey at best and somewhat recursive. --75.144.8.205 20:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC) user:ChrisPUT
 * Take that up with JzG, not me. But first, try to get unblocked and stop avoiding the block with this IP.  Metros232 20:03, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

John Moyer
An email to unblock-l revealed the Secret Identity of who was edit warring over the insertion of the non-notable writer and comedian to this article. You'll never guess who it is... Oh, wait, perhaps you will :-) The Cabal has stepped in. Guy (Help!) 09:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Regina Spektor image
User:Migospia went ahead and re-uploaded that image you just speedied, this time at Image:Regina SpektorConcert.jpg. Can you take care of this, maybe talk to her? Thanks... &mdash; Chowbok  ☠  17:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

User:ChrisPUT
Hi there. Thanks for the reversion of User:ChrisPUT on my talk page. As you are probably aware, his logs don't support his side of things. I'm trying to keep an eye on things, but please do let me know of anything else related to this. Cheers! Flyguy649talkcontribs 23:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the unblock Metros. I'll refrain from bothering Flyguy649 but he is free to read my discussion page.  Thanks again. --ChrisPUT 14:33, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

La Toya Jackson image
I'm assuming you are administrator. Correct me if I'm wrong. I was wondering if you could explain to me the whole image policy. I think it's ridiculous that every celebrity image is being taken down. What WOULUD BE an acceptable image of La Toya Jackson? Can you give me some sort of an example? Because it seems that the only type of celebrity photo that's acceptable is a photo shot by a fan. There aren't many of these of La Toya Jackson floating around, and I think it's necessary to have a photo to illustrate the subject. I get the feeling that admins are interpreting the image policy differently. Most singer articles that I've seen use an image of the singer performing live on stage. Would this be acceptable? I want to make sure I understand before I add another image. Thanks. I'm planning on adding this image of La Toya at the World Music Awards in 2004: http://www.latifaheaston.co.uk/LaToya/new_toy_pics/wmastage3.jpg - is this one OK? Rhythmnation2004 00:38, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * An image of her CD is fair use only when you use it to illustrate her CD. It is not fair use when you use it to illustrate who she is.  And yes, the best photos are those that users release for our use since we can use those in any way.  Images that are fair use fall under tight guidelines.  Metros232 00:54, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Is this image OK? http://www.latifaheaston.co.uk/LaToya/new_toy_pics/wmastage3.jpg Rhythmnation2004 00:58, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, not really since it took would fall under fair use since it belongs to that website and fair use images shouldn't be used simply to show what a person looks like. That's why we have so many of the live photos that fans take on artist pages, it's because fans can easily take them and use them on here.  Metros232 01:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Well there aren't any fan-taken photos of La Toya, and I think this article really needs one. That image is just HOSTED on that website, it doesn't belong to it. What are the policies on promotional images? La Toya's record company, Ja-Tail Enterprises, has released tons of promotional photos that they've given away in free promotional packets. Would any of these photos be acceptable? Here's a screen capture from an interview on Larry King. http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7430/larry2ng2.jpg Is that one OK? Rhythmnation2004 01:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Promotional images use this template: Non-free_promotional. Read that very carefully.  You'll see that it says that using it just to show what someone looks like is unacceptable.  TV screenshots are yet another template: Non-free television screenshot.  Screenshots from TV shows can only be used to illustrate the TV show itself, not someone who happens to be on it, unless their appearance on that TV show is note-worthy for some reason and is discussed in the article.  Metros232 01:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Are there ANY images allowed other than those taken by fans? It seems that every type of image has the little "not to show what someone looks like" blurb in its policy. La Toya is scarcely seen out-and-about, other than award shows, etc., so it's virtually impossible to get a fan-created image. Rhythmnation2004 01:44, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Unless her agents were to release a photograph under a free (libre) license compatible with the GFDL, then no. ··coe l acan 01:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Sir Henry's Page Edits
Hi there. Why did you undo my edits on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Henry%27s TastesLikeChicken 14:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I undid your edits because I was removing your deleted image, your more-than-likely-to-soon-be-deleted image, and your encyclopedic comment about it being "full metal jacket" or whatever it was you said. I've done this again, fixed the category to say Ireland instead of the UK, and added an unreferenced tag to the article.  Metros232 14:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

That's cool thanks - why are the images deleted? The owner of the images has given me permission to use them. What do I need to do to get them on the site?

Um
I use the account User:Teh tennisman, and I was wondering why I was autoblocked for an IP address. -- tennis man    sign here!  21:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

autoblock
It happened to me too, I got autoblocked by you. Lεmση flαsh (t)  /  (c)  21:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Umm, me too...I just got autoblocked because of a block to User:Amdrummer90. I'd sure appreciate a fix, thanks : ) Doc  Tropics  21:52, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, I've been autoblocked as well. Please unblock. Anonymous Dissident  Utter 21:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Does anyone know an admin we can call in to sort this out? -- tennis man    sign here!  21:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I just got autoblocked because of a block to User:Amdrummer90. Fix it immediate. What is going on?? Ardfern 21:59, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Lεmση flαsh  (t)  /  (c)  22:00, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It appears that User:Flyer22 was also autoblocked because of this. :/ --Elonka 22:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I have also been autoblocked due to the blocking of User:Amdrummer90. Please sort this out. Danny InvincibleTalk 22:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * An admin I know appears to be online right now, so I left a message requesting he look into this. I'm not sure what's involved, but hopefully someone will get us out from under this soon. In the meantime, how about a game of cards? Doc  Tropics  22:14, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The IP's listed on Smee's page are registered to Wikipedia. That seems to indicate some error in the autoblocking software. (I assume Smee doesn't work for wikipedia) :-} Lsi john 22:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I think it's now fixed. Is anyone still having trouble? --Elonka 22:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * For those who are/were (auto)blocked:

A misconfiguration of one of Wikipedia's servers allowed an autoblock placed on one user to affect all of the users using that server. The issue should have been resolved - if not, please request unblock using the standard unblock-auto template, and we'll do what we can. Martinp23 22:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm now good. -- tennis man    sign here!  22:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yup, it worked for me. Many thanks to whoever took care of that! Doc  Tropics  22:24, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorted. Cheers. Danny InvincibleTalk 22:31, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Geez, I go to dinner for 2 hours and look what happens! Wow, weird to see my block caused a glitch like this! Sorry, I couldn't have been around to try to help solve it, Metros232 22:44, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, see it this way: at least it was solved *before* you came back ;-) Circeus 00:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Checkuser case completed
Hi, A checkuser IP Check case you filled has been completed by a CheckUser, and archived. You can find the results for 7 days at Requests for checkuser/IP check/Archive. -- lucasbfr talk, checkuser clerk, 08:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC).

More Comtheo socks...
I guess you found them. I was about to let you know about the two new socks (that I found): Tchoeme and Xwnt. Cheers, Flyguy649talkcontribs 23:58, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Question about Tablet (newspaper) page
I'm trying to figure out why you deleted the photo from the Tablet page. I was the publisher of the magazine and am the copyright holder, I gave expressed permission for it to be used. I clearly stated this info on the photo when it was uploaded to Wikipedia. Before I reverted your change, I was curious if somehow I didn't comply with the Wiki protocal or there was something I missed. I couldn't see a more clear case of it being legal since I own the image and am a Wiki contributor and gave expressed written permission for it to be used. Dan10things 02:44, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Reading this will help explain why. You marked this as being only available for use on Wikipedia.  The following will explain why this is inappropriate:
 * This media file, which you just uploaded, has been listed for speedy deletion because you indicated that only Wikipedia has permission to use this file. While it might seem reasonable to assume that such files can be freely used on Wikipedia, since explicit permission to use it was given, this is in fact not the case. Please do not upload any more files with this restriction on them, because content on Wikipedia needs to be compatible with the GNU Free Documentation License, which allows anyone to use it. See our non-free content guidelines for more more information.


 * If you created this media file and want it to be kept on Wikipedia, remove this message and replace this with to license it under the GFDL, or  to license it under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license, or use  to release it into the public domain.


 * If you did not create this media file but want it to be used on Wikipedia, there are two ways to proceed. First, you may replace this message with one of the fair use tags from this list if you believe one of those fair use rationales applies to this file.  Second, you may want to contact the copyright holder and request that they make the media available under a free license.


 * If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.


 * I hope that explains it. Metros 03:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Gotcha, I missed that rule when uploading the file, the amount of rules are insane here. It sure would have been a lot less work for both you and me if you just sent me a note saying I needed to change a box on the photo listing, rather than deleting the file, changing the listing, and making me have to ask. Dan10things 03:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

ALERT!
Wrestlinglover420 has slipped under the radar again, in the form of sockpuppet Batman420! Egads! SaliereTheFish 05:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Er...never mind, sorry.SaliereTheFish 13:21, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

dude
nice work on the vandals. Keep it up.TheClownPrinceofCrime 19:12, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Article Alert
I have been working on articles since you sent the second message so look at what I have done now. --DestructoTalk to me 03:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Just curious
Hello. Just curious, Bladestorm 17:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * A crudely drawn depiction of a woman drawn in MS Paint I assume. Used only by its creator to prove a point, make a joke, and not add anything substantive to the project.  Metros 17:43, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for helping to undo Inugirl's spamming.--Mr Fink 17:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

KPLover
stop leave my userpage Alone! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KPLover (talk • contribs)
 * Stop breaking policy and I will. Metros 18:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Arlington High School
Well about the current event, does the fact that we've been locked down for an hour now, constitue a current event?--NightRider63 17:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Not really. In this day and age schools lock down frequently.  There's nothing on the news channels or on news websites that suggests there's anything noteworthy going on right now.  Metros 18:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * They aren't telling us anything at this point, but are you sure you havent heard anything? Because i would like to know what's going on. There are conflicting rumors and such.--NightRider63 18:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * There's nothing anywhere about anything related to the school as far as I can see. And sources are obviously needed for anything related to developing stories for Wikipedia, not just rumors.  Metros 18:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

the Jenna Fischer image
Regarding the message on my talk page, the image was emailed to me, I believe the person who sent it to me was it's creator. I am sure the image was created by a fan and is not in violation of any copyrights. Is there anything else I have to do? -Mike Payne 22:56, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well it's going to need to be a little more solid than that. We can't use copyrighted images with the source being some guy who may or may not be the image's creator.  So more concrete sourcing is needed.  Metros 23:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * So what's the reason for this removal? It's already used elsewhere on wikipedia and is being used to illustrate the person in the picture... -Mike Payne 23:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * ...Read exactly what I said above "Well it's going to need to be a little more solid than that. We can't use copyrighted images with the source being some guy who may or may not be the image's creator.  So more concrete sourcing is needed."  Metros 23:11, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Database Lag
Does anyone know why the database is lagging so much? I noticed it starting a couple weeks ago, but it was meer seconds, now some 20mins? Is there a backup database just in case the first one just decides to give out? - NeutralHomer  T:C 23:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Another MaxwellTeke/blocked anon puppet
Quack. --ElKevbo 08:27, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * If IPs are also considered puppets and yes that one was mine. So was 68.158.169.73 but not 68.19.111.191. I cannot help my IP changes. This my one and only account. I am no puppet master or sockpuppet. May I have that removed because I see no request for anything in the puppet sections MaxwellTeke 15:02, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No, you've been using those IPs inappropriately for no reason at all. Metros 15:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 2 IPs, and 1 I just put something on my talk page and got blocked. So I suppose it wont go away until its looked at or is it there for good? MaxwellTeke 15:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It's there for a good while after you stop using IP sockpuppets disruptively. Metros 15:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't even use that last IP as a disruption, only to add 1 simple thing to a simple talk page that was not negative. Oh well. I'll pass. Looks good up there anyway. Makes me look like a rebel MaxwellTeke 15:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You were avoiding the block on the other IP, that is disruption. Metros 15:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Even if its accidental? Sometimes it changes everytime I turn off my laptop. Plus even when blocked a user can add to his/her talk page unless its protectedMaxwellTeke 15:29, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Your edits were not accidental. Especially this one where you taunted ElKevbo basically on that IP talk page.  And the IP edited your user page even though he was supposed to be blocked on the other IP.  If you continue disruption you will be blocked.  Metros 15:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm I suppose that would be a taunt but it wasn't supposed to be. I didn't even know I was logged in. But to clarify for the word 'accidental' I mean the IP changes. While I purposely only edit my user/talk pages, the changing of my IP is out of my control. That is what I meant by 'accidental' MaxwellTeke 15:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, how ironic that you'd get logged out while talking to me about you using IPs disruptively. It just boggles my mind how disruptive ironic that was.  Actually, I think disruptive might be the right word for this. Metros 15:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

June 2007
Please do not remove my submisson saying that I'm retired. Jupiter12 was my alternate account(before I retired today).Please do not remove the retirement templates again. Thank you.--Trampton 22:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I apologize. I did not know there was a connection between the two accounts.  Metros 23:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry.
I'd like to apologize for everyone (including me) on Warriors being so rude. I mean, if everyone just worked it out, we'd be fine. I'm not taking sides here as to who was bad and who wasn't, I just want to talk ABOUT WARRIORS. --Crowstar 20:43, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm trying but everyone's ganging up on me for trying actually follow the policies, guidelines, and rules of Wikipedia. Everyone else seems to be arguing that since they like it and no one else objected to it but me, it should be allowed as an exception to the rules.  Metros 20:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I snapped at you too Metros. I just hate people calling me a kid and administators who think they know everything (not that I'm calling you one). If you want to prove your point it's better not to insult people. Just a little hint. ~Rainpaw

Yeah. If this continues, we might have to do to it what happened at the mew mew article. Crowstar 21:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I also apologize. I got a little carried away, and have always had a short temper, but that's no reason to just start lashing out at someone. You were, after all, just following policies. I'm just a little, and always will be, anti-change. Redfur 01:23, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

.
how can i stay cool when you have a personal vendetta against Warriors? also, you're the one who calls people kids when they dont agree with you, so stop being a hypocrite. I know I'm a fine one to be saying this, but don't lash out at Metros. I read the Wiki policies (something, I admit, I should have done ages ago), and the only way people can edit pages is if they have official sources, not just their own proof, no matter how obvious it seems. It's not a personal vendetta - it's Metros's job. Redfur 22:49, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

And YOU should read the policies. No personal attacks on people. Crowstar 11:31, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you should read my post above more thouroughly, Crowstar. I stated I did read the policies, and I also apologized to Metros for breaking them. Redfur 20:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I think Crowstar was talking to me DAVID CAT 21:10, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I was under the belief that blatantly obvious things could be written without a source. after reading the policies i realise that i was blatantly wrong. i'm sorry, Metros, i just got annoyed after you removed information (from pages that i created about my favourite books) that i thought followed policy. DAVID CAT 13:59, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Can you block?
I ask because there's a user who will delete A LOT of genuine warriors stuff and add general crap and unrelated stuff to articles. Look at his contributions. I have no idea how to block. His IP is 24.36.19.248. Thanks. Crowstar 16:22, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I have also warned him on his talk page. If he does it again, please block. Crowstar 16:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you..
... for your quick help. I'm an administrator in es: and such kind of undesirable people are unfortunately too usual. Thank you again. Best regards --Ecemaml 18:59, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Page Protection Request
Is there anyway that the Baton Rouge TV Stations (WBRZ-TV, WAFB, KZUP, WBRL-CA, WVLA, WBXH-CA, and WGMB) can be partially protected to prevent User:Cjerel8844 (who I think might be related to the IP user) from reverting the changes again? I would appericate it. Take Care.... NeutralHomer T:C 02:46, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Not really necessary now (see here). Besides, that account was older so semi-protection would have done nothing; I would have had to use full protection on it which is excessive when you're just dealing with one user.  Metros 02:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, this I did not know, I think semi-protect was for like users younger than 3 months or something. Oh well:)  Many thanks for your help.  Take Care and Enjoy what is left of your weekend. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 02:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion?
Hi, why did you deleate an article on James Carraghan? He's an up and coming poet and author and political thinker. He's a friend of mine and when he saw that you deleted his article because he was "non-notable person" he went into the deepest depression I'd seen him in for months. I don't understand why he's not notable even though he's starting to come up in the world. Could you please give me a reason why he no longer has an article, other than you've never heard of him? If that's the only defence you have, then that's not good enough. Just because you've never heard of someone doesn't mean they don't exsist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sontag12 (talk • contribs)
 * The problem was that I haven't heard of him or that I don't believe he exists. The problem is that he's not notable.  You claim that he's "up and coming".  Well, Wikipedia only writes articles about people who are "here".  There's no proof anywhere that he's an award-winning or highly-published poet so he doesn't belong here.  Metros 13:43, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Vince McMahon
Could you just remove the death date? Obviously he is not really dead, and that is a serious BLP issue. Lrrr IV 03:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I just reverted to the version just before the first edit after the "death." Metros 03:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Vince McMahon
Thank you for Protecting the page. However, the death date on the infobox is listed as June 11 2007. While it has not been confirmed if the character in the storyline is dead, the article is about the living person not the character portrayed by Vince McMahon on television. Could you please remove the fictional death date from the infobox? -- bullet proof  3:16 03:39, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It should be fixed. After I blocked it I reverted to the version just before the first edit after the show.  Metros 03:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, those IPs were out of control. -- bullet proof  3:16 03:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Those weren't IPs, those were registered users. The page was already semi-protected prior to tonight.  I cannot fathom how much nonsense would be coming in if it wasn't already semied!  Metros 03:47, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 0.o? It was already semied!?!?!? Damn!-- bullet proof  3:16 03:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Deleted placeholder
Why the heck did you delete this page marked "THIS PLACEHOLDER IS THERE FOR GOOD REASONPLEASE DO NOT DELETE THE ARTICLE"? David.Monniaux 15:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Because of exactly what you wrote. You showed no reason why it should not be deleted or what the "good reason" was.  To me (and the other admins who have deleted your placeholders), there was no "good reason" to keep it as it is an empty page.  Metros 15:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, if there are demeaning comments in there as you said on another talk page, shouldn't those deleted revisions be oversighted and completed expunged? Metros 15:30, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Oversight is a pain to use. Next time I'll simply say "OTRS reasons". David.Monniaux 15:34, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it would be appreciated. If I had known what the "good reason" was, I wouldn't have deleted it, but your comment was (understandably now that I've looked even further into this) vague.  I just substed the deleted page template and removed the activity log manually.  That should work, yes? Metros 15:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

umm
Are you stalking me, Metros? DAVID CAT
 * ??? Metros 18:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You know very well what i mean, Metros, don't try to deny it. DAVID CAT
 * You're looking at my contributions list DAVID CAT

Umm, not trying to be rude or anything, but if someone looks at your contributions list, it doesn't mean they're stalking you. I do to a bunch of people who have made edits on pages I look at frequently, to see what else he/she has edited. Redfur 02:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Vince McMahon article sourcing
I've provided the appropriate sourcing for the paragraph I wrote on McMahon's storyline demise. provides information about the explosion and the character's assumed death, as well as some additional information regarding a new aspect of the story--namely, the involvement of federal agents in investigating the incident (though that part probably isn't relevant enough to include in the article unless it becomes significant to the overall story arc, which it likely won't). Thanks for your assistance. Jeff Silvers 20:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Protection?
Should we fully protect the article again since way to many people still believe this is real? Bmg 916 Speak 17:54, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

A question
Hello, I was wondering if you were the one who deleted the article List of Michael Jackson awards. If not, ignore this comment and apologies for the inconvenience. If so, then why? There are plenty of other major artists who have similar lists and the user you cited is not the only one who edits the article; I actually check it frequently, day to day to protect against vandalism, and was quite surprised that it had been removed today. I humbly request that you reinstate it if you were the one who made the deletion. There is virtually no good reason (strike virtually actually; there's no good reason period) for deleting that article.UberCryxic 18:07, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It was deleted because it has been unsourced since May of 2006. This is an issue because it violates many Wikipedia policies especially verifiability and biopgraphies of living people.  Metros 18:12, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I've also fully reverted your changes to Latoya Jackson. Sorry but this is getting a tad ridiculous. Did you delete the article above (I'm working now under the assumption that you did, in fact, delete it) because of a lack of citations???? Leaving aside the fact that those can easily be given, there are plenty of other similar articles that do not have citations or citations that are extensive enough. What do you propose, deleting all of them? It's a bad idea to delete articles because they have problems, but especially horrendous when the articles are legitimate. That is, they have a right to be in Wikipedia, regardless of any technical, stylistic, or other problems they may have. I would really appreciate it if you could, as quickly as possible, reinstate the article you have deleted. It was a flagrantly inappropriate and misguided move.UberCryxic 18:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

It can be unsourced for eternity. That's completely irrelevant. If it's unsourced, add a tag and let others deal with it. It is inappropriate to delete legitimate articles on Wikipedia. Imagine if a more high-profile article, like the one on Napoleon Bonaparte, had no citations since 2004 or something. What would you do? Delete that?UberCryxic 18:14, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It is not inappropriate and misguided as you will see in our biography of living persons policy. Any unsourced information whether it is true or not, positive or negative, must be removed.  Metros 18:15, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

This is not a biography of a living person. It is an article about the awards that Michael Jackson won. If that stuff was included in the main Michael Jackson article, yes you could go ahead and delete it after a year or so without citations. But still, you don't delete the entire article even if it's completely unsourced. The article has a right to be on Wikipedia; you can't delete those (or you can, but you shouldn't), no matter what problems it may have (barring major copyright issues).UberCryxic 18:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It is about his achievements and, therefore, an extension of a biography of a living person. Metros 18:19, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * If I may throw my 2 cents out there, without citations, it also fails Wikipedia's policy on Verifiability, which is a core policy, and taken very seriously. Bmg 916 Speak 18:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

But it's not his biography. It just isn't. It's a separate article and we should treat it as such. You just deleted an article on Wikipedia that belongs on Wikipedia. Forget all the stuff about the policies with living persons; that action in itself is the most inappropriate and is the cloud hanging over the debate.UberCryxic 18:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The article is still about a living person, and therefore must follow the policies of living persons, as well as verifiability. Bmg 916 Speak 18:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * If I were to merge that article into the Michael Jackson article, it would automatically become part of his biography. It is an extension of his biography, it was just outmerged since it is too big to contain within the main Michael Jackson article.  It is subject to the policies of BLP.  Metros 18:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

To Bmg: same message. There are plenty of articles out there that fail many Wikipedia policies and guidelines, but we do not delete them!UberCryxic 18:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Two things, 1)there aren't enough editors or admins to deal or notice all of them all at once and 2)other stuff exists. To Metros: Sorry if I'm stepping on your toes with this issue. Bmg 916 Speak 18:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

There is clear and strong precedent for these types of articles, and many of them actually suffer from the same problems, but in no way should they be deleted. Point 2 is wholly irrelevant. I do not know what you mean by your first point.UberCryxic 18:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * By my first point, I mean that, unfortunately, we do not have enough users and admins who can monitor these issues with these articles, as there are, as you said, plenty of them (articles with similar problems). The second point is wholly relevant, as you are arguing a deletion of a page, and the argument you are presenting is countered by other stuff exists. Bmg 916 Speak 18:33, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

"The status of articles on other similar topics has no bearing on a particular article. The process may have been applied inappropriately, people may not have seen the other articles yet, or consensus may have changed. As well, articles that share a superficial commonality do not necessarily all meet the requirements necessary to write a well-referenced, neutral encyclopedia article. While some avant-garde performance artists, or college professors, or elementary schools, or blogs (for example) are mentioned in enough independent, extensive references to write an article, others are not. The existence of attributable, reliable information from which a neutral, well-referenced article can be written is an important criterion in deletion discussions, not its presence in a Wikipedia category or similarity to other articles." (from WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS) Bmg 916 Speak 18:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

User Metros showed enough interest to delete this particular article and several other statements in other articles. I'm sure the user can do the same for other articles. Point being: the move was wrong so the user should not go down that line. Your second point doesn't apply because consensus probably decided that these types of articles should exist. It is not up to individual users to go around deleting them. Also consider the very likely possibility that the argument you cited completely, well, stinks. It would be applicable if someone had deleted an article on a Pokemon character and I said, "well why don't you delete the World of Warcraft characters too?" That's not what I'm doing. I'm talking about articles that are exactly the same in their standards.UberCryxic 18:40, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

To Metros: I've also opened a discussion on this over at ANI.UberCryxic 18:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, the underlying assumptions for the above argument may not be present here, but you have presumed that they are true anyway (sort of like I have presumed that they are false).UberCryxic 18:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, I promise to the user that I will make a thorough attempt at citing everything and anything I can in that article if it is reinstated. It may take a few weeks, but I will get it done.UberCryxic 18:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Metros I made the same proposal at ANI. If you reinstate the article, I will ruthlessly cite anything and everything I can get my hands on. Give me two weeks or something and it'll be done. If not, delete it again.UberCryxic 18:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Another admin at ANI has recreated the page in my userpace to allow me to add sources. I think this is the best way to move forward on this since our policy disagreements seem irreconcilable. I will work hard on the article in the next week and will present a "finished" version in that timeframe.UberCryxic 19:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello again Metros, I went and found the sources, adding nearly 300 citations. As I explained in ANI, at least 90% of the claims are now referenced. I will attempt to find sources for what is left out as well, but this will require additional and more strenuous research. However, at this point the article should be able to go back on mainspace. If you do not believe so, please let me know why so we can resolve this as quickly as possible. Thank you.UberCryxic 21:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Oooops sorry I forgot; you can see the current version here.UberCryxic 21:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I've actually gone ahead and recreated the page since I addressed your fundamental concerns. If you disagree with my decision, do let me know, although please don't delete the page again. Take your concerns to the talk page. That's what you should have done before all of this started.UberCryxic 23:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Wikipedia policies state that any unreferenced material can be deleted at any given time. From reading the above posts, I was led to understand that before the page was redone, it was void of citations for a month. My point is, Metros didn't exactly need anyone's consent to delete the article, since everyone who worked on it had four weeks to find sources. However, I could be wrong. Redfur 19:33, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You're sorta wrong on one account...they actually had 13 months to take care of the issue, not 4 weeks. THe article was tagged as unsourced since May....2006.  Metros 19:38, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I thought it said May 2007. But it didn't. Sorry about that. Redfur 02:44, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Please block this person...
Please block IP 71.82.119.242 for their addition of spam, links to fansites, and vandalism. It's driving me nuts. ~Crowstar~ 19:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

WiiPals.net
Is there any chance you could view the reason I had given to create a WiiPals.net Wiki that pertains to the guidelines you stated. Sorry for bothering you.

Thanks

Tennispro5048 03:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

MJ - List of awards
Some very wonky thinking on that page. I'm currently removing the fan forum link as it's not suitable. I'm afraid "find sources is hard!" or "what about article X!" does not cut a lot of ice with me. --Fredrick day 18:28, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Vince Mcmahon Article
Please Do Not Delete This Post post 40spiddy 19:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Spiddy — I presume you're referring to the "Vince is not dead" post you've placed several times at Talk:Vince McMahon. Before you place such a post again, please notice at the top of the talk page there is a boiler plate that states very specifically (and in large typeface) that Vince McMahon (the real-life person) is not dead. Thus, it is not necessary to post this comment again on the talk page, regardless of intention. Also, the article makes a clear distinction that the "limo explosion" was kayfabe, with credible sources used to note that this was a pre-taped stunt; the content in the article was not placed until after talk page discussion about how to word it. Thank you for your understanding. Briguy52748 19:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)]]

WDW
Thanks for protecting Walt Disney World Monorail System. But, the editor causing the war has gone to create this Walt Disney monorail System pushing his version of the page and he is randomly archiving talk page discussion in the middle of the discussion.-- trey  18:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It's been deleted then recreated, salt it maybe?-- trey  18:38, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Requests for mediation/La Toya Jackson Awards and Achievements, and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible.

Re: Unblock requests
I know, I've discussed it with him. As it is, I was trying to be bold, but this time I failed. Oh well, I've learnt something new on Wikipedia today - non-admins shouldn't try doing Category:Requests for unblock. Thanks for your advice, Metros, it was helpful and I know what not to do next time. Oh well, I learn by my mistakes... --SunStar Net talk 12:48, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Jackson vs. Shakur
I'll trade. Jackson isn't even in your top 25. You have less than 25 edits to both the article and the talk page. I have 318 edits to Tupac, mostly I admit reversions of vandalism. I currently have a very nice message from a drive-by anon on my talk page offering for me to contact him for sources, and offers the information that he has a Tupac tattoo on his chest as one of his bona fides. What say you? KillerChihuahua?!? 20:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Do I get to throw the childish vandalism at Jamie Lynn Spears and Patrick Stump into the deal? :) But no, I'm not involved with the Jackson article because I just happened to have it on my watchlist until these edits came along. The editor in question has been on my radar for a month or so now with some conflict of interest issues, some fair use problems, and a bunch of other issues.  So, I'll keep this one only because it's more of the dealing with the editor than the dealing with the subject.  Thanks though :) ...but really...a tattoo as a credential?  That's kinda...unique?  I wear blue soccer socks while running, does that make me an expert on soccer socks?  I hope so...otherwise I have a lot of business cards to return. Metros 21:25, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I should write an article about you! I can use your post as a source, because what's more reliable than your own word? and besides, avoid self-references doesn't apply if there isn't a better source, I'll add one as soon as I find one. And if you don't let me use it, then you're a hypocrite because Admins are always saying Wikipedia is as reliable as Enc. Brit. so which is it? JerK!
 * ... I seem to be channeling someone else... Or maybe 300-400 someone elses.
 * Sure you won't take on Tupac? It seems to be affecting me oddly. :-P KillerChihuahua?!? 15:54, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

educating newbies
Regarding your edits here and here. Intuitively, I would've tried to educate Mammamiamania about WP:TPG and let hirm (what's the gender inclusive term again?) decide for himself whether xe wants that comment there, instead of removing ANNA's comment myself (however confusing it really was). Or would that have been a mistake? Please educate me. —AldeBaer 00:27, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * My own concern was with addressing Anna's behaviour more than anything else. If you're like to leave a note or a comment to Mammamiamania, you're more than welcome to.  Metros 00:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, may do so. I take it you noticed my lenghty message to ANNA btw? —AldeBaer 01:39, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

and another...
I guess you are aware also of User:Dyspareunia - like ThatWhichCorrects, a sock of User:DavidYork71. Is this a record? thanks! Merbabu 12:51, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What about User:RealismIncorporated?Merbabu 15:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Groan - there's another going back sometime. --Merbabu 11:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Footnotes & Reference sections
Hi.

I don't agree that having an entry in footnotes and under a reference/bibliography is redundant. There is a risk that if you remove a lot of content in an edit, that you other work will be lost as well. Sorry. Not trying to create a pissing match; I'll rework to include your other edits. --Kevin Murray 19:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * But that makes it redundant. There's no need to have a reference listed twice.  In the event it gets knocked out by vandalism, it can always be fixed.  I don't see how it's necessary and I've definitely never seen this on any other Wikipedia article.  Metros 20:00, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It is customary in the real world and I have seen it at WP. I don't see where the practice is harmful in the least as it makes the sections stand alone.  Unless there is a specific policy regarding this, I'd prefer that you leave it alone.  Thanks.  Cheers!  --Kevin Murray 20:04, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * This seems to be relevant. It says they're allowed but it seems to be recommended when large amount of sources are used (I don't quite think this article qualifies as large amounts).  If you think that this section allows for what you're looking to do, organize it as the section suggests.  Metros 20:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

User:MagicalPhats
I unblocked this user, and I will keep a close eye on him and reblock if needed. I think he is just not competent (likely very young) rather than an intentional vandal. If he gets blocked again, though, I'm going to give up on him. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 22:33, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I know. I wanted to help that dude, but after his comments, I'm giving up too. ~Crowstar~ 17:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * This user MagicalPhats turned out be a sock puppet of Kirbytime.--Matt57 (talk•contribs) 02:42, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Man Law
I'm a noob at Wikiediting, um, why can't I have a seperate page for "man Law" in comparason to miller light's "man lawS" I am not trying to vandilize anything, my aplogies to the online community, but how may I set up two different pages, one for "man law" that is seperate from miller light's "man lawS" Thanks and sorry again Gamingviper 01:28, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Because your man laws aren't appropriate for the encyclopedia. Metros 02:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Man law is just a culture trend as "chuck norris facts" or jokes or whatever that crud is. is just like "your mom" or "yo momma" that being said, you would have to delete, redirect and lock ALL those pages too Gamingviper 14:28, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Which is what's happened with those articles. All the variations of "your momma" redirect to Mother insult.  All your article was just a list of "man law" lists you had copied from various other places.  Metros 14:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

John Pomfret
I've just rewrote the whole article about him, I just used the bio from the Globalist as base text. I added a lot of info from other sources and added the proper external links. Why the page was deleted? Fu 02:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Because your use of the "base text" copied that article word for word and just interspersed some other things. It was a copyright violation with some other things in between.  Metros 02:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

5 O’Clock Charlie
Thanks -- just like the 4077th, I'm starting to get pretty used to this guy coming around every day! -- A. B. (talk) 23:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Would you like a semi-protect put on your talk? Metros 00:00, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm amused more than perturbed and there may be other IPs that want to communicate with me. -- A. B. (talk) 01:11, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Vanish
I would like to leave the Wikimedia projects. I've already requested the changing of username. What else do I have to do? Kenkcc1234 01:10, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Access
Notwithstanding the comment on your page, do I assume that you are now active? I note that you deleted Psoloquoise. I have absolutely no argument with that, but I would not be surprised if the author wre to come banging on your door. I originally deleted it. and restored it only after his most ernest entreaty. I am quite happy for it not to be there. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 16:32, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've been here for the last few days after repairing some issues on my computer but will be leaving again tomorrow and didn't feel like taking down the message only to restore it in a few days. And thanks for the heads up on the user.  Metros 16:35, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You can follow the discussion on my talk page. --Connel MacKenzie -  wikt 18:19, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I must note with some amusement, your "RickK" barnstar. Primetime and he turned out to be one and the same.  Too bad you didn't pursue him more vigilantly, before he became a nightmare on other projects.  --Connel MacKenzie -  wikt 19:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Damn, you are fast!
You had the 3RR report done before I had half the diff's collected! --Kralizec! (talk) 02:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

You're...an admin?
Dude, are you seriously an admin for Wiki? If you don't mind me saying, you sure don't act like one. Spottedstripe 00:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

If you're talking about how Metros has been poking around for citations in Warriors, admins are suppossed to go around to check out citations and all that "fun" stuff. Yeah, it may come across as a bossy/angry/know-it-all attitude, it's the admin's job to make sure everything runs smoothly. And Wiki policy. Redfur 16:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Argh. Spottedstripe 20:11, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly. But someone has to enforce the rules. Redfur

Civility
I do not think that I lost my cool. I was stating facts. What's wrong with that?
 * Calling someone stupid as you did is inappropriate. Metros 14:02, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't remember calling someone stupid!!! - Libertyville 12:36, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Must have been someone else named Libertyville. Metros 12:46, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry it took a while to get back. I do not remember calling someone stupid and if I did then I am sorry. - Libertyville 21:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Mike Gravel
Why did you delete the fact of his dyslexia? It is a well known and interesting fact that he talks about publicly. It is rare that public figures talk about their learning disabilities. When they do, it is good for public awareness of something that is very prevalent but little mentioned. Why would you want to suppress this information? Eric Goldscheider 17:18, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The edit was unsourced and there was absolutely no reason for it to be where it was. It was just a random comment within the sentence.  Metros 18:45, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. It was put in the section about his education, which is the appropriate place.Eric Goldscheider 10:24, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the help with Pennsylvania Punch Bowl. Would you mind taking a look at User:JohnnyNutty? Thanks again. --Chris Griswold (  ☎  ☓  ) 21:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I require your assistance.
I need somebody to be the mediator over at the discussion at Talk:Firestar's Quest. I come to you because I know you have worked with the Warriors articles before - be it by pure coincidence of whatever duties you have or general interest, I don't care. You've had more experience dealing with these crazed fangirls than me (Which is even more so odd when you take into consideration that the Warriors series is aimed at boys...). The fact of the matter is, they won't listen to reason, believe fan sites are godly for information and should be trusted at all times, and won't listen to a thing I say, even when I'm quite obviously more aware of the situation (Most of the time, anyways) than they. Anywho. If you would be able to help, it would be greatly appreciated. -- ~|ET|~ (Talk) 13:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Metros, I know you have been online since I put this up as evidenced by your contributions, and I would appreciate a response. -- ~|ET|~ (Talk) 18:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I've returned
Hi Metros. How's everything going?  The  Hyb  rid  13:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Protections
I know you're not online at the moment, but due to vandalism and disruptive pages moves, I've temporarily semi-protected and fully-move protected your talk page. I've also set your user page to move=sysop. My apologies if you didn't want this. Acalamari 18:06, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Block of Geraldckane
The block and situation is currently being discussed at ANI. I personally feel that it is rather heavy handed, as his requests for participants in his survey, while they may be considered annoying by some, can easily be removed and not responded to. It appears that he was acting in good faith. I welcome your thoughts in this matter! --Xnuala (talk)(Review) 04:37, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * He's requested an unblock. I have responded on his talk with a list of questions and advice about how to handle research of this kind in the future.  Your block note seems to indicate that you wouldn't object to another admin unblocking, so I'm tempted to do so.  However, I'm dropping you a note first.  Cheers Dina 12:32, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have no problem with an unblock as long as he agrees to stop the spamming of user talk page's inappropriately and that he contributes actively to Wikipedia, and that he just doesn't use it for his own research purposes. Metros 13:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

geraldckane: feedback request
Please see the following page in relation to our discussion regarding my survey. user:geraldckane/feedbackrequest I'd appreciate your feedback before I continue my work. --geraldckane 16:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Please don't revert other users' changes to my talk page
That survey request may have been annoying to you, but it wasn't particularly annoying to me and I'm not sure why you think you have the right to revert another user's contribution to my talk page. Perhaps you could clarify your position if you want on my talk page. Moncrief 18:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

User:NumLee
Please block as a sockpuppet of Asher Heimermann, whose socks you have already blocked except for this one. He hasn't edited in a year, but it's clearly him, and it's better to close any gaps. Thank you! Shalom Hello 12:40, 3 August 2007 (UTC)