User talk:Optimal Optimus

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Best of luck, and have fun editing! &asymp; jossi &asymp; t &bull; @ 20:19, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

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...and a Happiest Christmas to you. --ghost 15:42, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

The faiths (or lack thereof) of editors.
Friendly heads up. Most of the editors on the Intelligent Design page are non-Atheists, and quite strong in their respective faiths. Including me. Please be careful attaching that label to any editor. Most of the ID editors make to real effort to seperate their faiths from the article in order to avoid POV. Many editors there and elsewhere will consider that (or any) label a personal attack. I respect you passion for the article. Just wanted to help you learn the ropes.--ghost 16:50, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, but everybody is blowing the joke way out of proportion. I was not being serious in the slightest. Nor was I intending to suggest that anyone is an atheist. It was intend as nothing more than a joke. --Optimus 17:04, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Optimus -- look, I think I understand where you are coming from (including the social/political commentary), but, accusing people of atheism (I know you don't think that's what you did, but it is), or assuming specific that they have beliefs is really not a good way to start off. Personally, the only way the atheist bit offends me is logically: I find atheism to be illogical (and yes, I could easily say that about theism as well). Jim62sch 17:58, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I do find it interesting, however, that the talk pages of ID are full of jokes on specific Christians as well as Christianity, but as soon as someone makes a joke about atheism, they're a heretic. Side note: People who suggest that the US has no established religion forget that the state religion is atheism. --Optimus 19:32, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


 * If you see anyone making a personal attack regarding the religious belief of any editor, point them in the direction of NPA. It goes both, and indeed all, ways. KillerChihuahua?!? 19:44, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Archives
Please don't edit the archives. Start a new section on the talk page; add a summary of previous discussion if desired. KillerChihuahua?!? 19:37, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Still pretty new, and at this rate I'm probably not sticking around much longer. The Intelligent Design article seems to be edited by some very closed-minded individuals. There are a few diamonds in that rough, but they have no power to edit because they are "overwhelmed" by those who would stifle the truth just because it disagrees with their POV. --Optimus 19:57, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


 * No need for an apology! And please don't run off so fast - you picked one of the most edited and most divisive articles on WP - perhaps you might consider doing something a little less Wiki-Stressful for a bit. I'm in WP:FLA, I check RC (recent changes), I'm editing some articles I've created as well as some I found on WP:CU. It helps maintain perspective, and keep me from getting stressed. IMHO you have a good deal to offer, just give it a little time. WP:AFD is a good place to get an idea of what is, and is not, WP-worthy content. KillerChihuahua?!? 20:17, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I won't run off, but I think a break from that particular article is needed for a bit. --Optimus 20:37, 28 December 2005 (UTC)